FW & SLAVES FIGHTING IN TOURNAMENTS?
Rollo_the_Ax 19:38:47 CST
So saying, our first issue or question is this... ** To increase the R/P for both FW and slave...would GS be open to hosting tournaments for each, where in FW and slaves fight others within their station using a broom as their weapon?....May be held similiar to a spar....so many offensive posts, so many defensive posts, then a panel of officiating Free determine a winner?
** Any comment ?????
bahi{RD} 19:39:45 CST
i have one.. but it isn't probably a very popular way of thinking
{KUURUS}'silks~RESTRICTED 19:41:22 CST
a battle of wits...or physical altercation Master Rollo?
bahi{RD} 19:41:55 CST
Master Rollo.. Gor is about the Men.. without their participation what difference does more RP make for anyone else?
bahi{RD} 19:42:31 CST
it just seems that's sort of the cart before the horse.. to me anyway
Marie 19:42:57 CST
*chuckling softly*
if I'm going to fight against another FW, I sure as hell am not using a broom handle..cause if I have reason enough to be in a "fight", someone is going to get hurt
Jake_Musician 19:44:17 CST
I have seen in My travels..Fw go at each other with pots and pans sort of thing..humorous to say the least..it was played well...seemed they did it often to take away boredom...
nothing like a good cat fight even in jest is there?
Laroona 19:44:30 CST
slaves often fought
but FW gimmee a break
GS needs more active participation than what was suggested
Deirdre_Physician_of_GS 19:44:47 CST
I would not be a part of any of that. It is beyond ridiculous, in My opinion. I am not some fishwife fighting to be head of the gossip mongers.
*rolling My eyes* Count Me out!
Marie 19:45:43 CST
agreeing with Laroona and Deirdre here
the same point I was trying to make. I'm not going to "fight" for fun.
That's insane.
Ramses 19:45:57 CST
*chuckling*
what so you really think Deidre?
Laroona 19:46:58 CST
and who would the panel of judges be?
most FM seem to know fur sparing only *S*
Xertog 19:47:32 CST
Shopping is sport enough for Laroona. . . LOL
emerald_wild_lil_freeneck 19:47:45 CST
cannot understand the concept...when slaves fight they are told to behave....truthfully em thinks Mistress's fighting would be disrespectful to their station
bahi{RD} 19:47:53 CST
so umm.. how about mud wrestling? ~grins~ The Masters go first..
have always had a thing for Men in mud.. nothings hidden !!
~shuddups again~
jessenia{Rm} 19:49:01 CST
well i think the concept was a tournament type thing.... a "planned fight"
tho i'm not sure.. just my thinking on it
Laroona 19:49:07 CST
looks at Xertog and smiles sweetly
sure how do I shop when you are so mean with your coins LOL
Deirdre_Physician_of_GS 19:49:21 CST
*grinning at Ramses*
If I am made to fight, My Friend......well.....it would be totally unacceptable to most of the FM that frequent online Gor. Because I am going to use a short crossbow.....and I aim to kill. My Brothers taught Me that as a young Girl......and if I have to, I certainly can take care of things.
Laroona 19:51:31 CST
shakes my head in absolute disagreement
I will not fight unless it is to defend my home and those within of GS
and first I would try the verbal method before resorting to any weapons
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 19:51:44 CST
jale has seen these types of spars where FW fight FW and slave fights slave
using the sweeping end of the broom...NOT the handle....and more rather pokes and jabs
it is not a beat'um up kinda brawl...its more of a dance
i swing low to your legs...you jump and the advance is adverted
just thought it would be something different is all
rules can be made....no hitting above the shoulders etc etc
but since so many are against it.....my bad
bahi{RD} 19:52:42 CST
i've seen them also jale and they were really good rp
bahi{RD} 19:52:52 CST
took a lot of talent and creativity
Laroona 19:53:03 CST
well could always use noodles as lances *RME*
what other sites do is one thing what GS do is another
Rollo_the_Ax 19:53:04 CST
Okay folks.... I only put the questions out there, nothing says that I always agree with them... In * MY * personal opinion, ANY fight between women ( while it may entertain some folks ) is NOT an action that I would sanction or totally approve of.... Tempers may flair, and I KNOW that women can become combative.... but it is just not * Gorean * in context.... slave
fighting each other may have happened... over minor things or bad blood between the two... but to organize matches ???? sounds too much like mud wrestling to Me... as for FW ??? as a last resort if they both wanted it ??? I would still not be to keen to see it....
Xertog 19:53:26 CST
Where do these spars happen?
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 19:54:35 CST
aye Mistress Laroona...what other sites do is what they do
jale was simply offering a suggestion...is that not allowed here at forum?
or has GS become so prudish to new ideas that they are not allowed?
bahi{RD} 19:54:35 CST
have seen them in msn and palace Gor.. but they were a fun thing not a temper thing.. and were hilarious.. all in good fun kind of thing Master Xertog
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 19:55:35 CST
aye bahi *smiles and nods~
that is the point
much like the oar dance
but a dance of brooms
*falls silent~
Laroona 19:56:04 CST
I would not say prudish or even denying suggestions
it was put out there and it was answered
Marie 19:57:27 CST
jale, there was NO harm done in suggesting it. yes, that's what forum is for, so suggest away. perhaps if more had actually seen it, it might be different, but, it's not something I want to do. the word "spar" screams MEN..not FW..*L
Rollo_the_Ax 19:57:43 CST
I can't remember who said this, but as I remember the quote... "" The person that throws the first punch is either the one that has run out of logical answers, or knows that their position is undefendable with common sense...""
bahi{RD} 19:58:29 CST
so umm.. what about the mud wrestling.. Masters first of course as Gorean society would dictate!!
~grins and dreams of muscled bods in mud~
jessenia{Rm} 19:59:38 CST
if jessenia may respectfully point out
in the post suggestion itself.. it said "tournament" that would normally lead one to believe it wasn't and actual fight.. just something for fun...
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:00:34 CST
aye Mistress Marie
jale knows there is no harm in suggesting it...which is why she did but the actual fact that girl got "what other sites do..." thrown in her face
leads jale to understand that such suggestions are no good
come on people..whatever we're doing...or rather....NOT doing...isn't working
the room is empty for days on end.....how about stepping OUTSIDE the proverbial box once in a blue moon
try it for heaven's sake...if it doesn't work it doesn't work
and i don't just mean this scenario...i mean everything that ever gets suggested here
everyone cried and wanted the Market place Bizarre what have you does it ever get used?...RARELY
Marie 20:02:19 CST
well, you didn't get that from me jale, and never will..I'm always open for suggestions, you are right..whatever we are doing, or NOT doing, isn't working at all...something HAS to change, and quick...GS is a ghost town
malia{Jake} 20:02:24 CST
ohh ohhh i used it the other day, uh~huh i surely did
~chuckles and pokes her chain~
Laroona 20:02:46 CST
again it brings up the same old topic as was discussed last week
unless people are visible in GS and that means Council down to the lowest slave it will remain empty
instead of people playing in other sites
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:03:17 CST
thank you jesse.....are friendly spars a fight?
no...they are just that...an opportunity to learn
to perhaps try something new....do something different
bahi{RD} 20:03:47 CST
while thats true Mistress Laroona the question also goes back to what was happening in GS that people stopped coming here
jessenia{Rm} 20:05:08 CST
but all we slaves are trying to do is come up with something.. anything.. if we had something going on in here every weekend.. and had it on our boards..
maybe more would come in to see the different things... if not every weekend.. every other.. or some weeknights.. it takes effort from everyone...
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:05:52 CST
Mistress Laroona
jale will not speak for Master Jake as we all know He does well enough on His own *smiles up at Him~
but He was here last evening for nearly an hr and not one person came in so how do you suggest we do it then if there is nothing new to draw people?
do i wish to come into the Piazza and discuss the weather? hell no.....most times the Free don't require service
jale has done her lot of chores....so she sits...
would rather be doing something remotely Gorean than kneeling on a mat
bahi{RD} 20:06:18 CST
~ nods to jessenia ~
so true
Marie 20:06:28 CST
if people want to pay in other sites, that's their business..not mine, or anyone elses...they are going to other sites for a reason!
Laroona 20:07:45 CST
not for me to say
but my RT is heavy and while Xertog took a hiatus so did I
bahi{RD} 20:07:52 CST
maybe because other sites aren't afraid to step out of the box and have a
little fun? some creative good old fashioned fun
Laroona 20:08:39 CST
the old saying their dime their dollar
but if they are pledged to GS *shrugs*
Marie 20:09:17 CST
GS used to be fun. But, back then, the role playing was more than serving drinks and furring too...I don't come to GS to chat..I go elsewhere if I want to just chat. Role Play needs to come back
Jake_Musician 20:09:33 CST
I use another site to chat on Gor..as with My need for now to chat from pubic venues..I get access to them...see icons..as this is an adult site it gets filtered and if I get in...I see only tags...
Rollo_the_Ax 20:09:40 CST
Simply put, folks.... I can't say for sure what the vote of the full Council might be about this concept.... but for THIS old berserker... IF a couple of kajira or even FW decide that THEY can only end a dispute with NON lethal combat... and then be done with the problem, I will not stand in their way ..... BUT to sanction * matches * for entertainment ????? Ain't gonna
happen.....
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:09:41 CST
when's the last time there was a raid in GS?
or the FM or GS went on a raid?
bahi{RD} 20:10:23 CST
pledged or not Mistress Laroona.. if GS doesn't offer people room to enjoy themselves.. why would they put any effort into it?
jessenia{Rm} 20:11:03 CST
has been here two years and would be clueless in a raid
Laroona 20:11:23 CST
good question jal;e
it is carried out in JAG and not GS why?
we are not adverse to such events
{KUURUS}'silks~RESTRICTED 20:11:42 CST
well they can be quite fun jessenia indeed...raids
bahi{RD} 20:12:05 CST
Master Rollo.. it doesn't need to be that. but at least there was a suggestion made rather than the standard rota of just complaints with nothing offered as a solution.. methinks anyway
malia{Jake} 20:12:29 CST
i've never seen anyone raid GS but it coulda happened and i just missed it and didn't hear about it
Rollo_the_Ax 20:12:51 CST
Have * Goreans * become so shallow or so depraved that we follow the decline of the Rome empire ??? What ?? give the masses free bread, and blood sports, and they will allow themselves to be herded like so many sheep ??? Is THAT what the masses want HERE ??????
emerald_wild_lil_freeneck 20:13:20 CST
hmmm...almost got herself killed in a raid...once upon a time...which kind of curbed her urges to bite things
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:13:24 CST
You say You, meaning GS, is not adverse to such events and You ask why it happens there and not here?
cus no One here does a damn thing to organize itthey come in plunk their hot lil arses on some furs and order up a drink...don't pay attention to it being served to them.....and then leave as soon as they get it
ok...let jale sign up for the rp night after night after night
Laroona 20:15:30 CST
My view is to r/p in GS there are several ways to be gorean within GS
but we also need the leadership as was discussed last week
(pity last hands notes were lost)
bahi{RD} 20:15:37 CST
Master Rollo.. what got Gor off the ground initially? it was active.. like the books are.. lots of things happened.. maybe that needs to happen again..
Gor was never known for being totally tame from what i read.. imho
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:17:00 CST
slaves have a right to defend their Master's property so many Master's trained their slaves in defense using such items as sharp rocks...which could be used to cut away bindings should they be captured...brooms...frying pans etc etc
so ....jale simply thought it could lend to new rp of slaves learning such moves...training in defense....something different
but....apparently......she was wrong
girl apologizes for this.....ready for a new subject
emerald_wild_lil_freeneck 20:18:53 CST
seems sadly that more and more as O/others interact and rp....GS sits back and does nothing...most night there is not even a S/soul here....P/people go off to chat at other sites...go back to PS...things need to be shaken up her...well that's em's opinion which is worth about spit anyway
Deirdre_Physician_of_GS 20:20:16 CST
emmie....I think you are so right about that, sweetheart.....very right.........I just don't know how Wwe go about it. I really don't........
Zoran 20:20:53 CST
lol but good spit em winks
Laroona 20:22:05 CST
then I suggest as was stated last hand
Council need to lead and be visible
it is not up to Patrons and slaves alone
there was supposed to be some r/p about building a fountain
bahi{RD} 20:22:08 CST
Mistress Deidre.. maybe the answer is to let GS be.. Gorean.. in all it's glory
bahi{RD} 20:22:35 CST
rp'ing about building a fountain???
Marie 20:23:41 CST
goodness..have we come so far down in the dredges that we have to PLAN the role play now? Kentucky and I role played out some trading, bartering...off the cuff, no plans, just went along with it..it was FUN!
Deirdre_Physician_of_GS 20:24:09 CST
bahi.....Sounds good.......but what exactly does that mean. What are you referring to? I don't say that sarcastically....I promise.
Laroona 20:24:09 CST
yes bahi in the Piazza
there could be a lot more people plying their caste IMO
bahi{RD} 20:25:29 CST
well.. umm.. isn't there already a fountain?
malia{Jake} 20:25:41 CST
sometimes you have to plan out a rp date, it's the only way at times to ensure someone else will be around
bahi{RD} 20:25:58 CST
that or i've been playing in puddles all this time
~ thinks on this a minute~
Jake_Musician 20:25:59 CST
My fingers are calloused enough from having a few girls dance while I plyed My caste to action...would be nice to see others
OriginalSandman_Bldr/CaptainGS 20:26:12 CST
nodding I know I enjoyed playing out building he half tarnship for the oar dance .. discussing the bathroom built for Xertog and Laroona ,,, building a cart for Loki
Laroona 20:26:18 CST
not in the current plans no bahi
A lot of r/p can be off the cuff... but there should be more and could be.... IMO
Marie 20:26:32 CST
ok, understandable..plan out a r/p date...I get that now...but, what about r/p when you just happen to run in to someone? have we all lost our imaginations?
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:27:03 CST
and certainly lately malia *nods in agreement about planning rp dates~ never anyone around
yet plenty at PS often enough
OriginalSandman_Bldr/CaptainGS 20:27:12 CST
the challenge is of course the old chicken and egg .. no people who to role play with,, no role play-- no people
sen{HoK} 20:27:47 CST
in sen's personal opinion, planning rp dates, just go horrible. rp should simply..happen..be off the cuff.
malia{Jake} 20:28:32 CST
i haven't Mistress Marie but a lot of times at night i can sit for an hour and never see another soul to rp with
Zoran 20:28:59 CST
bahi don't make puddles lol
I think right now GS is going thew a slow phase
I not say there is not a problem but
I will say that rp is at a all time low
Marie 20:29:39 CST
a phase Zoran? a rather long one
emerald_wild_lil_freeneck 20:30:05 CST
this slow phase Master Zoran has been going on for way too long....way way too long...months is not a slow phase...this is the worse em has seen it in 7 years
bahi{RD} 20:30:16 CST
i think it still all goes back to if the Men of GS aren't going to participate then everything is a mote point.. Gor is a Man's world.. if their not here to lead it can't be
Deirdre_Physician_of_GS 20:30:54 CST
*nodding to bahi*
I have always thought so too, dearling......have actually SAT on the low bench surrounding the fountain.......have seen a male slave BATHING in the fountain......but.......some folks say there is no fountain.......so I guess it was a figment of Oour imaginations. *grinning*
Jake_Musician 20:31:24 CST
if it wasn't for Mine stalking Me..I could sit here for days without a soul....
Marie 20:31:31 CST
I agree bahi...and we've had no leadership..*shrugs*...Even when the Men ARE here, the most r/p I see is them ordering a drink
Laroona 20:32:02 CST
OK a question
are or have all GS slaves been branded?
if not would bring in r/p of the physician
and last time that slave wine was given
(instead of on the boards)
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:32:10 CST
*snorts and looks at malia~
we'd make good Warriors
stalking Master the way we do
*grins~
bahi{RD} 20:32:21 CST
Master Zoran.. i came to GS over a year ago and for 3/4ths of that time it's been much like this.. will all sorts of good reasons given for how quiet it is.. when do people stop making excuses and see what's going on for what it is? neglect on the part of it's members
Zoran 20:32:31 CST
well I try to make effort to be here for a while but due to my RT being a night mare of late
I not been around
bahi{RD} 20:32:53 CST
oh man my Masters gonna have my hide for speaking my mind like this but it kills me seeing such a great place going to waste this way
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:33:12 CST
ohhh gosh....last time slave wine was actually given
jale was still a white silk....so 18 months ago
Mistress Deirdre made a chaser...was suppose to taste better
YUCK!
malia{Jake} 20:33:22 CST
not to put down the men but i don't need to rp or enjoy my rp.. i can do quite well with another slave or several slaves and use NPC men in my rp
bahi{RD} 20:33:34 CST
It's not just you Master Zoran.. it's like a virus or something to many have caught
Deirdre_Physician_of_GS 20:34:45 CST
Aye jale.....and I was publicly chastised for making the chaser......*shrugging*.......you are right.......way too long ago. *nodding*
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:35:12 CST
but it was a good rp Mistress *grins and nods~
Jake_Musician 20:35:18 CST
looks to malia..knows she has a mind of her own and needs no men...(am chopped liver)
Marie 20:35:47 CST
ok, I'm going, because this is going round and round in circles, and it seems there are no answers, or lots of answers, but no one willing to step forth...I honestly think people just dont' give a rats ass anymore, they just want to come in here, bitch about it every week, and leave till the next bitch session...
so rather than throw my bitch's right in with it, I'm going to do something constructive, or destructive, or at least half way enjoyable
malia{Jake} 20:36:07 CST
bahi most of the time yes..
does that make me a freak? lol
Zoran 20:36:10 CST
I have one comment I don't mean it in a bad way but I like to see the Captains around more
I see Sandman but most others come in sporadically
I know as I do they have rt but as a leader you must be present
Deirdre_Physician_of_GS 20:36:15 CST
Thank you, jale......I tried. *smiling softly*
jale{Jake-fg}_~t 20:36:54 CST
Mistress Marie...why not stay.....move to the Piazza??
leaving solves nothing *smiles and shrugs~
bahi{RD} 20:37:13 CST
~ sighs and nods in agreement with Mistress Marie~
time for bahi to scoot also before her foot goes deeper into her mouth than it already is
Laroona 20:37:21 CST
Marie it was said some need to start
so maybe it falls back on the Patrons and slaves *shrugs*
malia{Jake} 20:37:30 CST
~smiles at Master~
ahh you know i love you and need you
bahi{RD} 20:38:32 CST
no it doesn't malia.. and it's great actually.. but not everyone can be satisfied with that alone .. i can also but i know lots that can't
Jake_Musician 20:38:47 CST
is NPC malia most days..winks...mind over matter
Rollo_the_Ax 20:39:39 CST
Please excuse me folks... but RT calls and I ned to answer it....... please finish the forum if you all will.... and I hope to see everybody again next week if not before...... be healthy... be happy.... and BE WELL......
malia{Jake} 20:39:47 CST
bahi well when your Master can't be around and before him you where alone most of the time you adpat and learn to enjoy rp without
Ulrich 20:39:57 CST
It sounds like there are several good ideas.. so the phrase comes to mind. Just do it.
Laroona 20:40:41 CST
Zoran I agree we need more Captains to be visible
OriginalSandman_Bldr/CaptainGS 20:40:49 CST
nodding to Ulrich I agree ,, its up to us to just doi it ,, I know for me its easy just to take a serve and sit back and chat ..
Ulrich 20:42:39 CST
I'm guilty of that myself Sandman, but I'm willing to step up.
We've all said it, that there needs to be more r/p. Everyone agrees. So everyone should show up, quit whining and make it happen.
Zoran 20:43:24 CST
LOl let me get my rt in order and I be back
Ulrich 20:45:02 CST
lol Zoran. I've had ongoing rt issues myself, and I'm working on them. Trying to make it by for at least a few hours a week, besides forum.
I just can't seem to make it when anyone is here