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Captain_Shadowglade

alright folks now that we have all that squared away, here's the next hardest part of a forum.....someone give me a topic! PM it to me please 

 

Captain_Shadowglade

Alright folks, first topic: Should slaves travel alone, without a Free person along, to places that would realistically be very far flung from their VT homes...say a slave of Treve for example visiting a site set in Port Kar, or maybe the Tahari...Let's hear your thoughts folks, then I'll share mine 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl}

well...topaz thinks "realistically" it could not happen or be possible...slaves don't travel first of all...and the distances would be ridiculous.... however....and topaz would like to stress this.....this is VT, so distance means not, looking at it that way 

 

~es_belle~{T}

girl thinks slaves shouldnt travel without a Master or Mistress to take them via tarn ship wagon or whatever, we are slaves we choose nothing, why should we have the right to travel? but it is fun *giggleing as she remembers many trips with Mistress* belle would travel all the time with Mistress if she was allowed to 

 

farah{Namor}

my slave personas have never really traveled from home on their own too much. it didn't seem very realistic to me and i was never sure how i'd get from say Port Kar to Ar on my own.

so unless someone from my home was in another city i just wouldn't enter most of the time 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl}

*winks at belle and chuckles* topaz does not really travel, so she would not know what she might or might not be missing out on....LOL...this is her home, aye, knowing slaves do NOT have a home per say..LOL...but it is!!... 

 

Laroona

VT has no boundaries, so anything can and does happen. To be realistic in r/p I often wonder how slaves use various animals, that only males can tame and handle as tranportation.

In my opinion unless a slave is under instruction of owners then traveling alone is not permitted as they are property and gor is a dangerous place 

 

Errand Knight

Wwe ahould all atrive to keep gor true..and it would therefore be unusual for a slve to travel either without her Owner or her Owners permission..though the vt environment does mitigate as topaz suggests. Still I know I tend to avoid a slave who I find taking the site grand tour 

 

farah{Namor}

maybe slaves could use what's the word, don't know but anyway guards that aren't really there to escort them into homes other than their own? 

 

Blade~xXx~Warrior~

From what I understand GS has banned any use of NPC 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl}

aye sis farah...but not many a Master is going to waste guards on a slave...8winks*... and the reality of some travel would not be realistic or possible distance wise, depending on how serious the person is about Gor....*laughs* 

 

gemm {H~K}

what is the problem of slaves traveling? ~ is it that it doesn't keep a room "alive" or is it that she might be tempted to stay away? ~ traveling slaves can create some good play between rooms and sites (i.e. capture, etc) 

 

Kayla

May not be realistic to travel to all the places we do as Fre much less as slaves.. but people do it and I don't see it stopping 

 

~es_belle~{T}

whenever this girl traveld alone to go see Mistress she always appeard sneeking through the bushes, a slave walking free through the streets with or without kolar is dengures... all Men see flesh they want it *giggl* belle always ran thruogh the shadows... 

 

farah{Namor}

~snorts at topaz then laughs~ this is true, guess we aren't worth the man power haha 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl}

but Master Blade, tis not really NPCs per say... topaz thinks farah means more that the guards escorted the slave to the city and tavern, whatever... like a Free Woman enters and says the same type thing...leaving her escort of gurads at the door, She enters... 

topaz has seen many FW do that...*grins* 

 

gemm {H~K}

belle!!! where are those Men??? ~ this girl is seeking Them! 

*giggling* 

 

~es_belle~{T}

*L hearing gemm she leans over and whispers* 

her Master is one of them *giggl* always wanting His fleshy play toy 

 

farah{Namor}

Master Blade what topaz said. like i tease the guards at Master's home. there isn't really any guards rping but it adds to my rp when i'm alone there 

 

Blade~xXx~Warrior~

topaz they are still NPC no matter how ya look at it. ~S~ 

 

Blade~xXx~Warrior~

Ok I see what your saying. You pretend someone is there with out logging a name in the room. 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl}

Master Blade, not if they do not enter the Tavern don't ya think? 

 

Captain_Shadowglade

alright....well, as I see it, slaves traveling on online Gor isn't unusual to me, or to my mind really that big of a deal except for when those slaves wander away from their home with the intention of stirring up trouble, or because they have chosen to disregard their home to the point that they wish to leave it, but don't have the decency to do so correctly...IE: begging for release, or sale to someone of the new place they wish to go.

As for realism...c'mon folks, Gor is the creation of John Norman's philosophical ideas, and vivid (though not always very elequent) imagination. Realism really has no place in it...but..to keep Gor AS real as is possible, sure, restricting slaves to their home might be one way to go about it...but the question I have would be...how is it that ANYONE travels on online Gor, especially when several different sites may be set in the same city, but at different periods in time...I mean...do we now have a bunch of time travelers? No, we simply have online Gor...a free-form RP environment for those of us who are interested in Gor, and in the Gorean Style of the M/s relationship, and in the principles upon which Norman based his novels...s 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl}

ayeeeeeee....that's it Master Blade....no names or characters are actually LOGGED in!!! 

 

farah{Namor}

~nodding~

yes Master Blade, that's it exactly 

 

farah{Namor}

ohhhh i've never thought of the different time periods. most rooms i've been to don't clearly state what time period they are in. could leave one place a young slave and end up in another place set in a time before you even born ~giggling~ 

 

Captain_Shadowglade

So, did we have any other comments on this topic? 

 

Captain_Shadowglade alright, then someone send me a new topic....*chuckles* 

 

Captain_Shadowglade

Alright, I have a topic since no one's sending me any.....like ta hear it here it goes: What is it, do you think that kills most quickly, the vibrancy and welcomness of any Gorean site/home? Opinions? 

 

~es_belle~{T}

plain and simple rumors 

 

~es_belle~{T}

all the He said Sshe said crap 

 

farah{Namor}

i think it is rumors, back biting, inside fighting 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl}

well said belle..*S* 

but negativity and complaining, whining will also go a long way to make a home empty pretty quick...LOL 

topaz also thinks GS is wonderful and unusual in that all of it's slaves are so welcoming to bot Free and slave alike...especially the support the slaves get from each other!! so that is a plus.... 

but negativity and complaining, whining will also go a long way to make a home empty pretty quick...LOL 

 

Kayla

I agree.. the rumor mill kills sites 

 

farah{Namor}

being judgemental kills a site too often people will judge others by what they are told by a third party instead of actually gtting to know someone first 

 

~es_belle~{T}

*nodding agreeing with farah( 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl}

aye farah, so true sis!!... 

 

Captain_Shadowglade

well, I believe I can sum it up in one phrase. What kills a site/home quicker than anything, Gorean or otherwise? 

One Bad Apple 

 

Laroona

rumors and bad mouthing will bring down most sites 

 

~es_belle~{T}

one bad apple or... *giggl* vegetable 

 

Kayla

speaking of sour things ~winking at belle~ the girl ember/pickle is causing a stir all over the place.. but seems most believe by her words that she is mental and it is not a reflection of GS *ss 

 

Errand Knight

Kayla: a pickle in a pickle? 

 

farah{Namor}

isn't it funny how when someone brings things to a point they have to be banned from a site all the sudden they run all over the place causing trouble to try and make the first site look bad 

 

Kayla

Laughes.. aye that she is.. a dead pickle now in a pickle 

 

Captain_Shadowglade

*chuckles* Well, ok, so maybe that's not a great summation, so let me be more detailed.....all it takes is for one person to get a bug up their ass about something or another....then they begin doing what you've all stated as a quick way to kill a site...however, that's not all...you see someone of that ilk has no power but the power that others give to them....so, say Bad Apple #1 begins whispering lies, rumors, and half truths to anyone that will listen...some take that as gospel, either because they do not know any better, do not care enough to find out the truth for themselves, or might have some gripe of their own, and so, throw in with the bad apple, because it suits their own personal goals.....and then you have those few who reject such idiocy out of hand, no matter how temptingly believable it may be, and go about forming their own opinions on said lies, rumors or half truths, and then decide which to believe and which to reject completely....the unfortunate thing is that even the most rational, fair person can sometimes be led to the wrong conclusion....so even with good people, intelligent people, and honorable people, a Bad Apple can still spoil the bunch....such bad apples, at times can be very subtle, and can make even the most rediculous things sound reasonable...if they're skilled... 

 

~es_belle~{T}

*hearing footsteps* and it seems some ghosts just wont die... *sigh* oh well next subject 

 

Kayla

she has been in JAG and Steel Dawn and back in here several times.. I would respectfully say as long as she gets any whispers or response from any one of us she will continue to haunt the place 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl}

well luckily having been away with Master for the weekend, she has not had to hear or see any of those things...*sighs* 

 

farah{Namor}

can i ask a question please? it's off topic , way off topic 

 

Captain_Shadowglade

sure, seems like I pretty much put the lid on the last one anyway, farah, shoot 

 

farah{Namor}

Master i was wondering if Assassins are allowed in GS? just to visit.. is there rules anywhere regarding them? 

 

Errand Knight

there have been Assasins in GS before..some with the marked cross on their forehead 

 

Ardya

there was one in Gs A week ago and attacked Blade 

 

Captain_Shadowglade

currently the only rules we have concerning assassins, farah are the same rules GS has had since it's inception. Those being that Assassins who enter, attacking someone in order to carry out their mark will be (or should be, can't remember the exact way Xern stated it) summarily laughed out of the tavern...and that they must follow our Battle rules as stated in the homepages....and there are specific rules where Assassins are concerned within our battle rules..but it's pretty much the same as that for Warriors, except that in a battle between an Assassin and someone else (no matter what caste the chosen mark may be) the Assassin will get the first attack....as opposed to the Challengee who usually gets the first attack... 

 

Kayla

there used to be members of the guild that were pledged to GS 

 

farah{Namor}

i've read the Battle rules but wasn't sure if maybe there was anything else somewhere. thank You Master ~soft smile~ 

 

Captain_Shadowglade

alright folks well, since we don't really have time for another topic, Im going to call this forum a little bit early....thank you all for coming out, and feel free to continue discussing this topic if anyone else has comments on it.... 

 

Captain_Shadowglade

not at all, farah....it's always good to see you...and we welcome guests....*winking* as long as they're not dead 

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