Present:
Dak
Ramses
Kazar
Sheadon
Lita
snowrose
lilith
flicka
zoya
Dak 19:35:21 pm CDT
if anyone has a topic, whisper to Me and I will open the Forum
Dak 19:43:07 pm CDT
topics, anyone?
Dak 19:47:10 pm CDT
ok, I have a topic, and will open the forum, same rules keep chit chat and greetings to whispers, have mercy on the scribe, here goes, 1st topic, The morality of being on-line while at work...is this not a form of theft from your employer? He is paying you to do a job which is not being done while you are playing on-line.
Ramses 19:49:10 pm CDT
to Me it depends on whether or not you are getting your job done .
Lita, Physician 19:49:13 pm CDT
Good topic. Especially as Gor is all about honor, not just about furring slaves.
Sheadon~ Pirate 19:49:32 pm CDT
I agree with you Dak
Kazar~infamous pirate 19:50:45 pm CDT
Dak since i am on straight comm ~``i pay my own way i use my cell to be on line ~~~` not their puter
flicka, slave of Keeper. 19:50:54 pm CDT
Master Dak, this girl agrees with that statement, unreservedly. Her belief is that her employer has bought her time, she is in effect a wage-slave. In every position this girl has ever held she has had more work than she has hours in which to fulfill the tasks.
Sheadon~ Pirate 19:50:59 pm CDT
and Ramses I agree as well depends on the job
Ramses 19:52:13 pm CDT
exactly Sheadon ...
flicka has the truth of it as well
it depends on what you are paid to do and how you are paid
Kazar raises a good point
Dak 19:52:27 pm CDT
I've never had a job that it was possible to have a computer, I suppose it would be possible now, to have one
flicka, slave of Keeper. 19:53:09 pm CDT
Master Kazar a girl would assume if You worked on straight commission You are effectively working for Yourself? That is a different matter.
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 19:54:20 pm CDT
snow was a receptionist, so if there was no one to receive, no phone calls, then she would check email, but always on her own little pc
Ramses 19:55:05 pm CDT
exactly snow
Sheadon~ Pirate 19:55:11 pm CDT
If your bringing your laptop to work and you work in a kitchen some one will not be happy *L*
Dak 19:56:07 pm CDT
it would have to be an awfully slow kitchen, *smiles*
lilith {GS} 19:56:24 pm CDT
*giggling as she nods in agreeance with Master Sheadon*
Ramses 19:56:44 pm CDT
I think a kitchen would not work out very well
Kazar~infamous pirate 19:57:22 pm CDT
Ramses exactly ~
~`basically ~~~ i work for myself ~`~~ on draw against comm
Lita, Physician 19:59:00 pm CDT
Personally, I have a phone line job, and sometimes things are slow and the boss doesn't have any projects we can work on, we are allowed to read a book, play a card game on-line, knit, or whatever. Because those things we can drop immediately if a call comes in or something is needed. But I would never get involved in role-play from work, because that requires too much of My attention, and I wouldn't be able to drop it immediately should a call come through.
Sheadon~ Pirate 19:59:26 pm CDT
but if you have a desk job and your work is done or caught up then maybe at your expense not the company's
Ramses 19:59:45 pm CDT
I agree with that as well, Lita
Bretval, Merchant 19:59:56 pm CDT
Comes down to are you using time that would not be filled with your own duties anyways.
lilith {GS} 20:00:46 pm CDT
a girl agrees with Mistress Lita as well, depending on ones job and what said job entails, etc.
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:01:54 pm CDT
also agree with Lita
Dak 20:03:02 pm CDT
ok, have we discussed that enough, I do have more topics
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:03:48 pm CDT
looks as though we're all downright upright
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:04:03 pm CDT
Lita ~~~ am one of like 4 who sell high end appliances i have a desk phone next to me i use my cell to be on line ~~~if noone is in my area ~~`~~ can always answer phone next to me or let me time out and come back later
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:04:17 pm CDT
also depends when you work grave yard shift
Dak 20:04:54 pm CDT
so it seems, snow
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:05:34 pm CDT
~chuckling~ mistress snowrose that is why we are Goreans.
Ramses 20:06:53 pm CDT
*nods in agreement with flicka
Dak 20:07:24 pm CDT
ok, next topic
Assassins & Warriors: Codes vs Codes
Quotes For This Week
"But you are of the Assassins," I said.
"We are tenacious fellows," he smiled.
"I have heard that," I said.
"Do you think that only Warriors are men?" he asked.
"No," I said. "I have never been of that opinion."
"Let us proceed," he said.
"I thought you were too weak to be an Assassin," I said.
"I was once strong enough to defy the dictates of my caste," he said. "I was once strong enough to spare my friend, though I feared that in doing this I would myself be killed."
"Perhaps you are the strongest of the dark caste," I said. He shrugged.
"Let us see who can fight better," I said.
"Our training is superior to yours," he said.
"I doubt that," I said. "But we do not get much training dropping poison into people's drinks."
"Assassins are not permitted poison," he said proudly.
"I know," I said.
"The Assassin," he said, "is like a musician, a surgeon. The Warrior is like a butcher. He is a ravaging, bloodthirsty lout."
"There is much to what you say," I granted him. "But Assassins are such arid fellows. Warriors are more genial, more enthusiastic."
"An Assassin goes in and does his job, and comes out quietly," he said.
"Warriors storm buildings and burn towers."
"It is true that I would rather clean up after an Assassin than a Warrior,"
I said.
"You are not a bad fellow for a Warrior," he said.
"I have known worse Assassins than yourself," I said.
Beasts of Gor, Chapter 35
"Honor," I said, "has many voices, and many songs."
He looked down at me startled. "That is a saying of warriors," he said.
"It is from the codes. It is a long time since I have heard it. I had almost forgotten it."
Witness of Gor - Page 711
Questions
1)Are one set of codes any better than the other? Why or why not?
2)Each caste vows to uphold their codes. Should this be roleplayed? How do you know if the character you're roleplaying with truly made the vows?
3)Each caste goes through training. Should that be roleplayed? Why or why not?
4)Have a favourite quote about the Scarlet Caste to share?
Lita, Physician 20:07:41 pm CDT
right Kazar, and that is good.
Dak 20:12:43 pm CDT
we have so few warriors and assassins around, I'm not sure it is much of a concern
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:13:26 pm CDT
Master Dak, for question 1 this girl would say no. To say one set of codes is better than another would be to say that a rose is better than a daffodil, each is perfect in what it is.
Bretval, Merchant 20:14:40 pm CDT
as long as they pay the tab and no dead slaves show up...*g*
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:16:06 pm CDT
both flicka and Bretval have good points
Dak 20:16:17 pm CDT
I think that is pretty much a given, in Gor, flicka
Ramses 20:16:31 pm CDT
those are some pretty broad, daunting questions I think most here are having trouble wrapping their head around the exact topic
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:17:12 pm CDT
~nods~
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:18:22 pm CDT
As a slave snow does not feel qualified to respond to such questions..she can't put herself in a Free's mind
Lita, Physician 20:19:01 pm CDT
But that is sort of the point, Dak. Do We need to portray Our Castes more than we do? And why do We not have more Warriors, maybe even more Assassins? Is it because we won't take the trouble to portray Our Castes, and things get kind of boring with nothing more than furring or serving or dancing going on?
lilith {GS} 20:19:37 pm CDT
*nods agreeing with mistress snowrose*
Dak 20:21:36 pm CDT
well, it seems to Me, that not many have the time to delve that deep into the roleplay, *smiles* and even if one did, there is so seldom an occasion for it !
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:21:59 pm CDT
agreeing with Lita
Lita, Physician 20:22:08 pm CDT
Each caste did have their own codes and their own training, and yes. I think to an extent they should be role-played. However, parts of the training and codes of each Caste were secret to the Caste Members alone, so it would not be possible to play out the training or the codes in full, as one could with slaves. Still, I think it would add to oour role-play if We tried as much as we could to portray some of Our training and Our Codes.
Ramses 20:25:17 pm CDT
*agrees with Dak
role play with multiple, intersecting story lines
requires an investment of time and energy that can be draining
not impossible, but demanding
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:26:14 pm CDT
assassins should come try to kill people as roleplay the tavern should get raided every so often or people should try to defending our home but there is nothing to defend it from
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:29:20 pm CDT
as a Pirate I'm not going to loot my own home *L*
~zoya~{Thadron} 20:30:04 pm CDT
~*~recalls a day the tavern was raided as fear fills her to the core~*~
Ramses 20:31:03 pm CDT
that had to have been a LONG time ago zoya
Dak 20:31:40 pm CDT
*laughing*, at Sheadons's comment
Bretval, Merchant 20:31:53 pm CDT
Well, Lita and I are working on a role play... and yes it takes a little time... ten or 15 minutes a day or so
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:31:57 pm CDT
like people from poolside if that is there home they would try to raid us here kinda thing
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:32:16 pm CDT
Ramses ~~~ who was the one that cam in a week or so ago gave flicka a hard time ~
Dak 20:32:30 pm CDT
aye, back 11 years ago, there were things like that, but there were more Gorean sites, too
Dak 20:33:22 pm CDT
I wouldn't think a "hard" time would be a problem, for flicka, *smiles*
Ramses 20:33:36 pm CDT
Kazar I have no clue
but that was far from a raid
he was just an ignorant idiot as far as I M concerned
Lita, Physician 20:34:29 pm CDT
No, Sheadon, but You might want to do a bit about warning and protecting Your Home from the victims of Your looting, who just might have decided to chase You and take it back.! *LOL*
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:34:43 pm CDT
it was a slave...or rather a lowercase person, wasn't it
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:35:21 pm CDT
Ramses aye ~~ always have my sword ready ~
Ramses 20:35:43 pm CDT
not really a slave,snow
just a jerk
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:36:02 pm CDT
ah yes Lita never thought of that thank you
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:36:14 pm CDT
yes Master, that's what she meant
Dak 20:36:24 pm CDT
I thought pirates did their looting at sea, *smiles*
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:36:47 pm CDT
Lita grins i just send Phoenix after them grins
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:36:49 pm CDT
a person of no consequence.
Lita, Physician 20:37:11 pm CDT
yes it was, snow, and from what I have heard about the incident, it was just an HNG causing trouble, not someone attempting proper roleplay.
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:37:38 pm CDT
yes Lita I have done that a few times running in and out of the tavern being chased
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:37:43 pm CDT
~laughing~ and now we all need to be afraid, very afraid, that parrot is a menace. ~thinking of the danger to slave's nipples.~
Lita, Physician 20:38:34 pm CDT
No, Dak. Historically, Pirates sometimes attacked small settlements on the shores, if the opportunity arose.
Dak 20:39:42 pm CDT
I suppose, but not much ever said about it in the books , *smiles*
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:39:45 pm CDT
flicka yep ~`~ grins `~
Lita, Physician 20:41:38 pm CDT
Pirates could even role-play examining and distributing Their loot in the Tavern, Or even planning Their next raid there.
Ramses 20:42:25 pm CDT
that I do agree with Lita
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:42:41 pm CDT
I would do it more often but.... being so new did not want to get in trouble or I would role play more often I have the time to do it..
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:44:00 pm CDT
Lita I do that as well but I guess not in enough detail *L*
Lita, Physician 20:44:30 pm CDT
there was the scene in the books, Dak, where Bosk got cross-wise of the Pirate in a Tavern, and fought and fatally injured Him, and "inherited" the Pirate's Men and Holdings because Bosk let the Pirate view the sea as He died.
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:44:58 pm CDT
this girl would be amenable to watching pirates examine Their loot, and role-playing a slave's love of pretties. ~chuckling~
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:45:27 pm CDT
that was a very touching scene Mistress...
Lita, Physician 20:45:29 pm CDT
I guess i'm not around all that often when You happen to be in, Sheadon.
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:45:43 pm CDT
Lita yep ~
Dak 20:45:58 pm CDT
aye, but, I would be hard pressed to see how to roleplay that in our Home
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:47:45 pm CDT
flicka I have talked to you about raids and loot and other Pirate doings have I not?
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:47:57 pm CDT
but she can see a scene of a pirate coming home, the slaves all excited, parading around in the jewels...until He took them back of course
Lita, Physician 20:48:24 pm CDT
Well some NPC players might have to be used, Dak.
Lita, Physician 20:48:48 pm CDT
sounds good snow.
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:49:26 pm CDT
Like I said Lita I do not do it when there is alot of people in the tavern do not want to get in trouble *L*
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:49:42 pm CDT
You have yes Master Sheadon, but You didn't have any baubles that this girl could salivate over, even if she couldn't have them. All You had was boring Master stuff like blackwine beans and weapons and ale and stuff.
Bretval, Merchant 20:49:55 pm CDT
*shrug* We expect the slaves to be creative can't We do the same
Lita, Physician 20:49:57 pm CDT
When Katrina she-urt was here, she did quite well,. with role-playing bringing back information to the Captains about what was going on in the port, and any plots against Us.
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:50:57 pm CDT
a girl was playing out a scene the other day with marieve about a Merchant in Town Who had some bolts of beautiful red silk.
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:51:05 pm CDT
we could drape ourselves in jewels and pretend to be haughty FW..
Dak 20:52:09 pm CDT
*smiles*, that's a little to complicated , for Me
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:52:47 pm CDT
in the Port Kar room?...that's the place for pretend roleplay..
Lita, Physician 20:52:53 pm CDT
Maybe the slaves could role-play reporting Ships just in from their raids, carrying lots of loot, or ships preparing to go out on a raid, that they heard about from their "clients" who wandered in from the port.
Lita, Physician 20:53:55 pm CDT
No reason some of it might occur in the Tavern itself, is there snow?
Sheadon~ Pirate 20:53:58 pm CDT
I can role play...
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:55:26 pm CDT
if the Merchant isn't real, the bolts aren't real, sounds like Port Kar roleplay...that room doesn't get used very much anymore
Bretval, Merchant 20:57:23 pm CDT
But that puts it back in the hands of the slaves, Lita...
Lita, Physician 20:59:14 pm CDT
some of it yes, Bretval, but then would it not be up to the Free to act upon the information provided by the slaves?
Bretval, Merchant 20:59:46 pm CDT
I would hope so, Lita
Dak 20:59:58 pm CDT
well, with everyone leaving, I will close the forum, thanks all for coming , *smiles*
flicka, slave of Keeper. 21:01:57 pm CDT
where is the Port Kar room?
Sheadon~ Pirate 21:03:55 pm CDT
being kinda new to this if I come running in the tavern saying I'm being chased and attacked by other ticked off Pirates... what would happen
Dak 21:05:24 pm CDT
depends on whether anyone else is there, *smiles*
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 21:06:50 pm CDT
well if there was danger, the slaves would all go to the hidey hole..hmmm just in case it hasn't been mentioned to new slaves, she will send an email
Sheadon~ Pirate 21:07:14 pm CDT
true Dak
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:11:16 pm CDT
snowrose Sword is always ready