Present:
Sandman
Thadron
Kyoto
Rollo
Bretval
Lita
snowrose
galah
kevin
hulya
shimmer
flicka
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 19:51:41 pm CDT
as for Me, I have just returned by Tarn and doing well
and I am especially pleased to see forum filling up tonight...
you can whisper any possible topics to me before we open
Kyoto1 19:52:02 pm CDT
Well, been through some lean times and some tough ones, but I'm still staying away from the city of dust, so all is good
RollothrAx 19:52:14 pm CDT
looking down at galah...... * if anybody is going to be biting that ass of yours girl, it will be ME...... LOL.. the urts can go jump in the canal...
galah{RA} 19:52:26 pm CDT
its so wonderful to see you again Master Kyoto **heartfelt sigh**
greetings to all **big bright smile with a flutter of dark lashes that move from one to another**
RollothrAx 19:54:35 pm CDT
Yes brother...life goes on..... the wheel turns.... or, as the prophet says... " SHIT HAPPENS ""........ LOL..
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 19:54:45 pm CDT
Glad to hear, Kyoto, I hope that your rt will allow you more time with us... you were sorely missed
galah{RA} 19:54:53 pm CDT
yes my Master, and perhaps your girl can bite as long as she don't bite to hard? heheheheheheheee
Kyoto1 19:55:14 pm CDT
~Laughing softly~
RollothrAx 19:57:07 pm CDT
Aye, Thadron ..... my brother Kyoto is much like myself in that way... we have both been shot at and missed and shit at and hit too many times......
LOL...LOL.. roaring with laughter
Kyoto1 19:58:13 pm CDT
~Grinning as I rub the top pf my shaved head~ Yeah, life has definitely been a roller coaster ride.
RollothrAx 19:58:35 pm CDT
maybe not so much of a BITE .. more like a nibble ..... galah...... LOL..
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:00:46 pm CDT
I currently have one topic for discussion
any more before we begin? whisper me now
RollothrAx 20:00:54 pm CDT
Well....... do we have any topics for todays forum ?? any questions that need answered ? any larls tamed, wars fought, virgins converted ?? LOL...LOL....
RollothrAx 20:01:55 pm CDT
Okay.... sitting down and keeping my big mouth shut for a change.....
Lita, Physician 20:02:03 pm CDT
slaves killed?
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:02:57 pm CDT
~whispers~ Master Rollo, as to the last, flicka doesn't think that You would be likely to find a virgin in a Gorean Home.
Kyoto1 20:03:17 pm CDT
How about virgins tamed?
galah{RA} 20:03:54 pm CDT
**cringes down lower between his feet as she hears Mistress**
RollothrAx 20:04:10 pm CDT
Turning to look to the Free woman.... * slaves killed ?? * why waste slave flesh like that ??
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:05:02 pm CDT
~low chuckle~
Master Kyoto, flicka thought it was the unicorn that was tamed by a virgin. He of the single horn.
Lita, Physician 20:05:52 pm CDT
When no other discipline works,Rollo, and the slave has attempted to kill a Free.
RollothrAx 20:05:54 pm CDT
Now flicka..... there was one kicking around here just a week or two ago... until some Advisor ( who will remain nameless ) * converted * her .... no ??
Kyoto1 20:05:56 pm CDT
~I gave flicka a slow smile as she spoke of a single horn taming a virgin.~
galah{RA} 20:06:03 pm CDT
**she wraps her lithe arms about his muscular calf and lays her head to his thigh to just listen**
jason{Lita} 20:06:49 pm CDT
*shift slightly hearing of slave death*
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:07:07 pm CDT
A girl stands corrected Master Rollo, He most certainly did do that. So yes a week ago You could have found one virgin.
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:07:15 pm CDT
I hope you don't keep your mouth shut, Rollo...
Okay, the first topic tonight comes from recent post on the boards...
Honor...
What does Honor mean to you?
Forum is now open...
there are a few follow-on questions that I will add in a little bit...
galah{RA} 20:07:30 pm CDT
oooooooohhh now galah knows what slave you speak of Mistress **deep sigh of relief**
RollothrAx 20:08:02 pm CDT
Oh, knowing just who you referred to..... LOL... that would not be a slave killing .... more like putting down a sick animal..... or some bug under your shoe...... LOL.......
Lita, Physician 20:09:40 pm CDT
*quietly finding the softest feather pillow and sliding it across the floor to the Sr. Captain
RollothrAx 20:10:14 pm CDT
As I just said in a posting yesterday..... for any Gorean, the 97th Aphorism is answer enough for this old war dog.......
Kyoto1 20:12:05 pm CDT
What is invisible but more beautiful than diamonds.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:12:32 pm CDT
winking to Lita and settling down on the pllow.. much better than a worn out business chair in a room in yon inn
peanut~{Lita} 20:12:56 pm CDT
slips in quietly and moves to her place beside the boy
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:13:01 pm CDT
It is said that women are attracted to powerful Men, and that may be true for most, but flicka is attracted to honourable Men. Men Who are prepared to die for what THEY believe is right. Men Who will stand up against insurmountable odds to not forsake Their honour.
RollothrAx 20:16:15 pm CDT
* Honour * is not a tangible item to be held in ones hands or weighed like some stone, or even divided and shared among many...... honour is not any ONE thing.... it is the sum total of a persons life and actions.....
Lita, Physician 20:16:39 pm CDT
Flicka, your description of an honorable man also describes a powerful man. Most honorable Mean are powerful Alas, too many powerful Men are not necessarily honorable.
RollothrAx 20:17:53 pm CDT
"What is silent, but deafens thunder ? "
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:18:45 pm CDT
that is what snowrose thinks too Mistress...there is a power in an honorable man, even if He may not be at the very top...His power
is the respect that comes to Him naturally
Kyoto1 20:19:23 pm CDT
~I grinned at Rollo~ What depresses no scale but is weightier than gold?
RollothrAx 20:19:53 pm CDT
Power and Honour do NOT always go hand in hand... too often the seeking of power requires the loss of honour.....
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:20:26 pm CDT
nods, actions speak louder than words
I like this part of it the most... you don't have to tell me, you have to show me
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:21:04 pm CDT
~nodding ~ aye Mistress, and flicka appreciates Your distinction that not all powerful men are honourable. Within her own country flicka can think of many examples of powerful men for whom honour is a "commodity" they would consider to be of considerable inconvenience.
As flicka said, she is not attracted to those kinds of men.
To twist Master Kyoto's Gorean quote a little. Not all of the diamonds ever dug are worth an pound of an honourable Man's flesh.
hulya{GS} 20:21:17 pm CDT
Agreed mistress, to hulya an honorable Man is also someone who is unwilling to back down from what they believe, even if everyone else says its wrong, and keeps His promises
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:22:54 pm CDT
second part of the topic..
We roleplay Goreans, and should in our roleplay uphold Gorean Honor. Does it ever blend with ooc? should it? why or why not?
Kyoto1 20:24:38 pm CDT
Yes, it should. I'm very active in my local BDSM community and I feel that honorable actions are the only true currency we have.
RollothrAx 20:25:07 pm CDT
This is something that I have said before and had some folks not understand... to some, honour seems to be thought of as only a thing * men * have and show..... but in MY experience... and I say this from the heart... I have known FW and yes, even slaves that displayed more honour than some that * called * themselves MASTER.....
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:25:25 pm CDT
They say power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Sadly, she she is beginning to believe that in that counter Gor
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:25:52 pm CDT
I think we are more familiar with those in positions of national power who at some point forfeit for their honor, or never had any from the beginning... I knew a US Senator once who told his staff, those who should be seek the US Presidency never will because they would have to sacrifice their integrity
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 20:26:58 pm CDT
Often... not always... the method of seeking power defines the honour of the Man... it is possible to seek power without lies, cheating or other dishonourable means
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:27:05 pm CDT
I whole heartedly agree, Rollo....
and I agree with you too, snowrose
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:27:05 pm CDT
~frowning a little~
Why would it not?
If You are honourable in Your real life, then how could You be less than honourable in Gor?
Conversely, if You are honourable in Gor and show less honour in Your real life, then You are living a lie. And ergo Your honour either within Gor or outside of it is a mere bagatelle.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:27:11 pm CDT
honor goes beyond Gor ...it is a core value
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:27:15 pm CDT
~nods to Master Thadron.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:28:09 pm CDT
~and nods to flicka~
peanut~{Lita} 20:29:35 pm CDT
very true flicka
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:30:08 pm CDT
smiling at flicka,, a wise man once said,, if you lie you have to remember everything you said,, if you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything you said,, and I don't have the memory to successfully lie
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:30:49 pm CDT
the third part-
Do you think that as a role player here, you have a right to know who you are role playing with?
hulya{GS} 20:30:49 pm CDT
*giggles at Master Sandman*
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:30:57 pm CDT
it is much easier to rp your core values than to put on the cloak of respectability,, for in the end the real you will always show
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:31:32 pm CDT
~bursts out laughing at Master Sandman's comment~
Aye Master as good a reason as any to maintain veracity.
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:31:56 pm CDT
that is very true, Sandman, it always shows through in the end
Kyoto1 20:32:01 pm CDT
As in the gender or some other way?
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:32:12 pm CDT
smiling to Rollo that is a more ticklish question.. for I have trusted some who I have come to trust with parts of my rt,, no one is ever required to give out RT info,, and more than one person has been banned for trying to require that of our slaves
peanut~{Lita} 20:32:17 pm CDT
no Master Thadron....you dont...accordinbg to house rules...but between a girl and her owner, it may make things flow more smoothly
shimmer{GS~t~} 20:32:25 pm CDT
shimmy likes the definition of honor...
noun
1. honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions: is a man of honor.
if a person weather Free or en-slaven possesses these things then the gorean world and the real world would be a much better place...
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:33:03 pm CDT
or Smiling to Thadron,, shaking a read weary hed
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:33:18 pm CDT
Do You mean know the other person's r/t business, personal facts and details...No, she doesn't think that is a right....we all seem to exchange some details about our lives to some people, but that is voluntary But she does think we have a right to know that a man is man, and a woman is a woman.
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:34:11 pm CDT
Master Rollo, regarding honour in slaves, perhaps it is the word that sticks. For a girl thinks that many would say that a slave cannot have honour.
But what makes up honour?
Loyalty, fidelity, seeking of justice, trust, the list goes on. And flicka believes that the best slaves, the ones really worth being owned, have these attributes.
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:34:52 pm CDT
well, the next part was what is your view on gender bending...
let's discuss what we think is pertinent to know about another who is "role playing"
so many here mostly or completely blend their real time and gorean shores time, that it isn't an issue
Kyoto1 20:35:16 pm CDT I agree that even a slave can show that she has honor
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:35:50 pm CDT
slave honor was discussed once, she thinks in class, when snowrose was very new...we all agreed that a slave certainly has honor. Proof of that is the dishonorable behavior we are seeing in a slave these days
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:36:18 pm CDT
I totally understand, Sandman... ~lol~
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:38:07 pm CDT
and back to the subject of honor in slaves, many slaves have told me, I am just a reflection of my Master...
but it is more than that... many of the most honorable acquaintances for me in Gor are slaves...
Lita, Physician 20:38:09 pm CDT
I don't thnk rt information should be required, no. But no, I don't think "gender bending" is honorable. Nor is it honorable to roleplay under other names in order to conceal a previous identity. In the old days, if your character was killed, you left Gor forever and did not return under some other name.
RollothrAx 20:38:39 pm CDT
The third part that you speak of Thadron is not clear to me ?? In what way do you mean ?? to know RT details ?? to know who or what any other person has done or is doing ?? I feel that as others have said... if any person is around for long enough, others come to know about what kind of person they are thru their words and actions...... RT details should always be ONLY at the persons discretion ...
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:38:49 pm CDT
I agree gender bending is reprehensible
peanut~{Lita} 20:39:43 pm CDT
what the heck is genderbending?
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:40:33 pm CDT
nods to Lita....
I for one believe that if the council made a decision on a kill being a kill, then it should be forever... it's not always easy to ferret out who someone was in the past...
hulya{GS} 20:40:43 pm CDT
Its where a man or woman plays a character of the opposite sex
Kyoto1 20:40:55 pm CDT
peanut, genderbending is when someone plays a person of the opposite gender, such as a man playing a woman, or vice versa.
Lita, Physician 20:41:04 pm CDT
males playiong female characters or females playing male characters, peanut, and not letting the others know of the deception.
shimmer{GS~t~} 20:41:05 pm CDT
someone that is one sex but r/ping the opposite sex... a male playing a female in r/p.. or a Female r/ping a Male.
RollothrAx 20:41:42 pm CDT
flicka..... all of those words may well be a part of honour.... but to MY thinking... those with honour have it and understand..... those that do not will never truly understand what they lack......
peanut~{Lita} 20:42:19 pm CDT
oh god...yeah thats nasty!
jason{Lita} 20:42:25 pm CDT
i happen to agree that's one thing that should be known
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:42:45 pm CDT
~smiling~ well flicka likes to know the Man or the Woman behind the keyboard, she does not wish to know this for any salacious reasons. But rather, because we are people as well as being Gorean Masters, Mistresses and slaves.
To know that a person ~winks at Mistress Lita~ has adorable little dogs whose breed flicka cannot spell. Or that galah has American bulldogs, only rounds out the person.
Jarl Keeper and flicka are pretty much an open book to any who wish to know. ~chuckling~
shimmer{GS~t~} 20:43:26 pm CDT
yes shimmy thinks if you are gender bending you should tell people that you are shakes head and laughs hearing peanut,.
Kyoto1 20:43:45 pm CDT
I thought galah had ragdoll cats?
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:43:58 pm CDT
~smiling at Master Sandman~ or as Master would say, flicka is a very very curious bondsmaid.
galah{RA} 20:44:08 pm CDT
Australian bulldogs flicka heheheheee not American bulldogs
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:44:55 pm CDT
Master Rollo, exactly.
galah{RA} 20:45:08 pm CDT
long long ago Master Kyoto, before the dogs she thinks hehehehehehehee
RollothrAx 20:45:32 pm CDT
I may well be showing my age .... and most assuredly my up bringing.... but * gender bending * is not only WRONG !!! but so wrong that I would hope I never find out anybody * I * know did it.....or I would be sorely temped to crush the live out of their worthless body..... yeah, I know.. I am a bit old school and hard core..... but that is how * I * feel......
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:45:55 pm CDT
Damn, gal, a girl thought it was the Aussie ones, but didn't have time to look it up. ~chuckling~ hay a girl got the bulldog bit right.
Hmm do you really have rag doll cats?
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:46:06 pm CDT
I think we have discussed this topic though it was a little vague, I don't think that it was meant to be talking about non player characters, like Joe the barge captain who is bringing a load of tharlarion to the market... in a role play scenario..
when speaking of honor, is the person being honorable in how they present themselves and does it matter if that's not who they are in real time?...
Lita, is that what was meant?
galah{RA} 20:47:04 pm CDT
**smiles, realizing how long she has known some of those here, not only Masters and slaves, but friends, very dear and loved friends
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 20:47:11 pm CDT
It all returns to the rules.... NO ONE can force another to reveal RT facts... what Wwe choose to reveal is up to Uus
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:47:52 pm CDT
flicka would feel distinctly uncomfortable/ill if she was interacting with a a woman she thought was a man or vice versa and then found out they were the opposite.
jason{Lita} 20:48:36 pm CDT
yeah same with jason flicka
galah{RA} 20:49:15 pm CDT
no ragdolls anymore, just two ordinary cats, cross breeds
peanut~{Lita} 20:49:55 pm CDT
girl has to ask...wouldnt it be obvious to tell...especially in discriptions...girls know how we feel...wouldnt it be hard for someone to know thoughs things?
RollothrAx 20:50:49 pm CDT
Again.... simply put.... there are RT details that I will share... to not do so would seem dishonest..... some details I keep to myself..... too much detail about ones life often causes others to think less of you and your past.....
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:51:17 pm CDT
it is a good reminder to us that we don't have to share any rt facts with anyone here if we choose not to.. and that it could be dangerous to do so.. since we really don't know who might come through this portal..
hulya{GS} 20:51:50 pm CDT
In some cases it maybe peanut, in others not so much
Kyoto1 20:51:59 pm CDT
~Looking to peanut~ Not really. I write, I'm not published, but I write. And so I study people. I learn how their minds function. I could easily fool just about anyone here if I decided to genderbend. But that is where my honor comes into play. Just because I can do something, doesn't mean I should or would.
peanut~{Lita} 20:52:35 pm CDT
sorry but this one would be very pissed off...and hence her honour may take a turn for the worse
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:53:15 pm CDT
snowrose thinks that depends on how good an actor the person is peanut
Lita, Physician 20:53:22 pm CDT
It's not an easy question. One's character may not necessarily be honorable. One could be playing a thief or some other reprehensible character, without being dishonorable in real life. But, I think to successfully portray a dishonorable character, one must know what honor is! *chuckle* And to do that one must be in some sense honorable. Mmost Goreans I know who portray pirates, even those in the books, were in their own way honorable Men. (Bosk and the Captains of Port Kar for example) Now have I confused you even more?-
peanut~{Lita} 20:53:38 pm CDT
thats just to creepy!
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:53:39 pm CDT
~splutters with laughter at peanut's comment~
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:54:02 pm CDT
smiling to Lita, even pirates have a code of conduct
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:54:25 pm CDT
~looks at the masculinity of Master Kyoto, the maleness, and thinks He must be a very good writer indeed to play a slavegirl in a certain situation
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:54:59 pm CDT
Lita, thanks for clarifying some more, this is a good topic, thanks for sharing it
RollothrAx 20:55:14 pm CDT
To may thinking, it would show thru..... a rough Star Trek quote.... It is possible for a civilized man to act barbaric and get away with it.... but impossible for a barbaric man to act civilized and also carry it off.....
shimmer{GS~t~} 20:55:17 pm CDT
peanut shimmy was on another site before here we had a gender bender no one had a clue for 6 months that he was really a she.. she fought better than any man she was gay in r/t and she really pulled off being a man no one had a clue until someone got her yahoo and it had pulled up that she was really female not male. yea made alot of people really question themselves and she ended up leaving the site.
Lita, Physician 20:58:22 pm CDT
To be a good actor, snow, one must be very good at understanding how the character would feel, be, and react to things., and that is in a way true with genderbending. Some men are very good at viewing life from a feminine point of view, and vice versa. Now I am a reasonably good Actress, having major ed in it, but I don't think I could successfully portray a male character.
RollothrAx 20:58:26 pm CDT
One mans pirate is an others privateer and also an others simple sailor ...LOL... the word does not mean the same to all people..... LOL..
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:59:03 pm CDT
~all bambi eyed innocence~
mistress snowrose, to what situation are you alluding?
~snuffling little chuckle~
Kyoto1 21:00:28 pm CDT
~Leering at snowrose~ I know the anatomy of slave girl's quite well, also.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:00:45 pm CDT
chores of course, flicka
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 21:01:06 pm CDT
Last question in this topic is this... with the overriding subject honor, what can you do to make GS better?
peanut~{Lita} 21:01:12 pm CDT
a finger lifts just as she's had a revelation....Master Kyoto....Your back from the dead...or was that lost at sea?...will we see You around....hopeful smile
RollothrAx 21:01:15 pm CDT
The question that begs answering here is WHY ???? what is wrong or lacking in the basic makeup of any person that would want to try and portray the opposite sex... ????
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:01:35 pm CDT
~bites her bottom lip to suppress that familiar shivery feeling~
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:01:55 pm CDT
~drolly~ oh of course, chores, silly flicka.
Kyoto1 21:02:56 pm CDT
~Laughs as peanut asks her question~ It is quite possible, but even I am not sure where I've been.
hulya{GS} 21:03:29 pm CDT
Well Master, this is only hulya's train of thought, but maybe its because they're lost and are dexperate to find a group to belong tothat they'll do anything possible
Lita, Physician 21:03:47 pm CDT
I think that is kind of a moot point, Rollo. We cannot "fix" such people, nor is it our job to try. We are here to roleplay Gor as best we can, and it's outside our purview to deal with such, so we prohibit it. This is role-play, not a psychiatrist's office.
galah{RA} 21:05:15 pm CDT
this is gonna sound abit dumb, but where would a transgender fit into gor?
peanut~{Lita} 21:05:15 pm CDT
thats a good question Master Rollo.....if peanut should grow an appendage we can disect me...looks to Master Kyoto....with a lil knife play thrown in too...winks
RollothrAx 21:06:36 pm CDT
Thadron.. the way is clear... be true to yourself.... act with pride and integrity in all that you do here.... be honest to others as you would expect them to be honest with you... think before you speak..... and treat others as you would hope to be treated .....
shimmer{GS~t~} 21:06:36 pm CDT
laughing oh this subject is getting quite strange...
Lita, Physician 21:06:57 pm CDT
There were a few homosexuals in the books, galah, but it was made clear that such were not acceptable. Milo's Owner comes to mind.
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 21:06:58 pm CDT
real time is pulling me...
Sandman will you take the helm from here on out?...
~I stood and waved~
I wish all well
thanks for scribing flicka
peanut~{Lita} 21:06:58 pm CDT
peanut wonders what devilish ways the PK's could come up with to kill should they have found onbe...mistakingly of course.
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 21:07:39 pm CDT
looks back...
very well summarized Rollo.... very well indeed
Kyoto1 21:08:02 pm CDT
galah, if you go back in time, there were always people who were did not always they fit their birth gender. I think JNorman glossed over those details, but so many of the societies that the cities were based upon, especially those of the ancient Romans and Greeks, had openly gay individuals. I honestly do not know why he skipped that in the books.
peanut~{Lita} 21:08:03 pm CDT
girl really needs to get off these drugs..LOL
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:08:18 pm CDT
How can we make GS better?
Be here, support our home.
Be true to our Gorean natures.
For a Master, be honourable, strong, make a slave feel her need, be Masterful.
For a slave, be compliant, sexual, pleasing, be the counterfoil to what a Master is.
Above all enjoy yourself, see our home for what it is; a place to come and relax, de-stress, and at times live out our fantasies.
And above all ~chuckling~ fuck.
Lita, Physician 21:08:21 pm CDT
*laughs* They can't disect you without MY permission, peanut! And I'd want to keep you intact and join one of the traveling circuses and display you for money! *LOL*
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 21:09:15 pm CDT
Sounds like a good way to be in RT as well, Rollo
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:09:32 pm CDT
chuckling flicka you are a gem
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:10:17 pm CDT
what flicka said
hulya{GS} 21:10:43 pm CDT
*giggles at flicka, giving her a wink* also, gays were also open in the tribes in Lakota culture Master and were not shunned or hated
peanut~{Lita} 21:10:47 pm CDT
Laffs hysterically with Mistress...You would certainly make a pretty penny wouldn't Ya?
Lita, Physician 21:10:51 pm CDT
And flicka, what can a Free Woman do to make GS better? There are a few of us you know.
peanut~{Lita} 21:12:05 pm CDT
For a Master, be honourable, strong, make a slave feel her need, be Masterful.
For a slave, be compliant, sexual, pleasing, be the counterfoil to what a Master is.
Above all enjoy yourself, see our home for what it is; a place to come and relax, de-stress, and at times live out our fantasies.
couldnt have said that better if she tried!...Bravo sis!
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:12:13 pm CDT
Master Kyoto, a girl seems to remember that the Ancient Greeks had, a girl thinks, um., 7? words for different kinds of love.
One of them was homosexual, there was filial and so on.
Lita, Physician 21:12:16 pm CDT
Trouble is, peanut, being a Physician I'd no doubt be accused of tampering with you. Oh that I should be that skillful!
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 21:12:39 pm CDT
Because JN only used 'facts' that fit the world He created... he was not interested in 'Truth"
RollothrAx 21:13:21 pm CDT
LOL...LOL... well, Bretval....... that is just about how it works with Rollo..... the guy behind the keyboard is more Rollo than many would think... and vice versa .... LOL...
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:13:34 pm CDT
~evil little chuckle~
Why Mistress the FW can make life really horrid for the slaves, then we girls can go running to the Masters and show how terribly the FW has treated us, and He will soothe and cosset us and give us yummy tastas.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:14:28 pm CDT
smiling to Rollo I have never doubted that online Rollo and RT Rollo are cut from the same cloth
Kyoto1 21:14:15 pm CDT
Urgh... have a headache and a cold, it's catching up to me...
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:14:30 pm CDT ~sotto voce~ peanut you left out the best bit. The bit at the end.
Lita, Physician 21:14:46 pm CDT
And what does the Free Woman get out of that, flicka? Because most people behave in the ways they do because they get SOMETHING out of it.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:14:55 pm CDT
its all that time lost at sea Kyoto
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:15:01 pm CDT
~laughing~ Master Kyoto, is that some real time information You have just shared?
hulya{GS} 21:15:02 pm CDT
Good point flicka, but there Re a few exceptions to Free Women being horrible to us kajira
shimmer{GS~t~} 21:15:38 pm CDT
think Mistress's have the hardest rolls of all Gor.. they have to be strict so they do not appear weak.. but not to strict that FM think they are bitches and need to learn their place in a collar.. that Free Women cant be to kind or act to loose or they would be considered a slave in Free Womans clothing.. a Free Woman has to walk the thinnest line of everyone.
Kyoto1 21:15:51 pm CDT
Hmm, I guess it was rt info... shhh, don't tell anyone.
RollothrAx 21:16:31 pm CDT
In truth, there has only ONE case of almost alluding to a gay guy in the books...... never came out and said it openly..... so even JN got into it a bit in the books.......
Lita, Physician 21:16:44 pm CDT
Good point shimmer, We are tightrope walkers. Hey peanut there's an other act for our little circus!
peanut~{Lita} 21:17:03 pm CDT
yes...girl did didnt she....looks to flicka....and above all else...FUCK!
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:17:22 pm CDT
I agree with you shimmer,, when my FW Deirdre was here she always walked a fine line,, but smiling she still found subtle ways to show public affection
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:17:48 pm CDT
Well Mistress They get to become real jealous of we slaves, and then beg to be thrown into the circle.
~cackling like an old hen~
Actually Mistress, flicka really doesn't know what a Free Woman would like, to flicka's mind it is an aberration. ~smiles~ flicka is not trying to be insulting, just stating how she feels in an "honourable way".
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:18:10 pm CDT
That's true shimmer, a very hard role..and we are lucky to live with One who does it so well, without being totally horrid ~laughs softly and smiles to the Mistress~
Lita, Physician 21:18:17 pm CDT
Didn't he also brush against it a bit with the Wanyanpe, "The Sames"?
RollothrAx 21:18:29 pm CDT
same ragged bit of dirty canvas Sandman...... LOL... old and tattered .... LOL...
shimmer{GS~t~} 21:19:30 pm CDT
they get to drink black wine and enjoy it nods lots missing black wine alot right now.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:20:00 pm CDT
Laughing tired yes,, but under the tattered canvas a back bone of steel
RollothrAx 21:20:43 pm CDT
I never took it that way, Lita... the * sames * were more like PC snags..... they still had male/female relations..... they were just ** equals * ?? LOL..
Lita, Physician 21:21:46 pm CDT
Well this tattered old piece of canvas is going to have to get going. Rounds start early tomorrow, and for a while I will have to be working more hours., No pay, just more hours.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:22:43 pm CDT
well folks its after 9 PM here,, anymore that yall want to discuss?
Lita, Physician 21:23:11 pm CDT
I was under the impression, Rollo, that they had NO sexual relations. Until Our Hero Tarl converted them
RollothrAx 21:23:57 pm CDT
LOL...The one truism in Rollo's life, brother Sandman...... Better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees... Rollo swore an oath to himself many years ago...... NEVER be taken POW... eat a bullet before it can happen.....
RollothrAx 21:25:35 pm CDT
LOL...LOL... and the check was in the mail.. right, Lita......LOL..we all take what we do differently from the books...... LOL..
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:26:02 pm CDT
chuckles kipling's advice to the soldiers in Afghanistan 100 years ago,, save the last one for yourself
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 21:27:45 pm CDT
Thanks for scribing, flicka
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:28:02 pm CDT
Master Sandman, really?
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:28:48 pm CDT
~laughs~ flicka would say thank You Master Thadron for leading, but it would be to a shadow.
Thank You Master Sandman for stepping into the breech.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:29:06 pm CDT
aye flicka,, kipling wrote that for British soldiers serving in Afghanistan 100 years ago
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:29:38 pm CDT
thanks for leading the forum Master Thadron...~looks around~ who is gone
thanks for scribing flicka
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:29:51 pm CDT
Master, flicka has always liked His poem "If".
shimmer{GS~t~} 21:30:22 pm CDT
thank you for leading Master Sandman thank you for scribing flicka
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:31:55 pm CDT
the poem is "The Young Britsh Soldier flicka" the last stanza is:
When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:32:43 pm CDT
aye snowrose forum is officially closed Thadron left it to me
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:33:19 pm CDT
Thank You too Master Sandman ~blows a kiss~
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:33:33 pm CDT
Fare well Master Bretval
jason.
Ohhh Master Sandman, that made flicka shiver.
A girl would have thought she would have read that somewhere, but hasn't. Can hardly wait till a girl can show Jarl Keeper
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:37:57 pm CDT
rising time for me to find my bed in the Inn,, I wish all here well