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Rollo the Ax19:08:05 CST Okay folks, I guess that if it is time to get this show on the road, I may as well do so........ This weeks GS Forum is now open..... same rules as always... no more greeting needed, keep the personal cross talk to whispers..... and lets see what happens.....LOL.. 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl} 19:10:58 CST (((please would everyone make sure their Name is on their tag to make it easier for scribing))) 

 

Rollo 19:11:22 CST LOL..LOL.. OKAY... lets begin... Anything happen this week that folks want to discuss ??????? LOL...LMAO.... the price of paga go up ??? LOL..... and for the record, * I * am not going to speak with ANYBODY in whispers and won't accept whispers from anybody either.....if y'all ain't got the guts to say it openly, don't say it to ME !!!!! 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl} 19:11:26 CST the rence papers ready and writing implement posed, ready to scribe 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:12:43 CST BOL>. well damn.. that was said late Rollo... BOL 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl} 19:13:02 CST waits for the subject of the FW being banned to arise.... 

 

Ardya_ 19:14:54 CST GEEZ no one going to spit it out 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:15:01 CST *looks around.. then speaks up* I have understood a new ruling has come down in My absence.. FW being banned from Tavern, bathhouse.. and .. hmmm.. shoot I forget just where... but the major issue I have seen is the Tavern 

 

Rollo 19:15:20 CST LOL.. no worries, ShadowHawk.... tell her to email Me at rolloax@tpg.com.au and I will speak with her...okay ??? 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:16:14 CST something bout afraid of FW take over.. I have seen all FW doing this.. just ONe.. and that is tween Me and Her.. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:16:45 CST very well Rollo.. LOL.. I said that just before You said what you did.. and I shall pass it along 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:17:46 CST Well, yes..... EF posted that a few days ago.... it MIGHT have been done a bit prematurely, but hey, once the shit is out, you sure as hell can't put it back in...LOL..luckily.....LOL.. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:17:55 CST scratch that ARdya.. I have not seen all FW acting this way.. save One.. sheesh.. typing poorly already 

 

squishy{Sg} 19:18:11 CST Oh squishy has heard and seen more then One FW get out of hand ... some even acting like wanton slaves... and have also seen the FM laugh it off and think it is great fun... and tend to let them get away with a lot lately 

 

Ardya_ 19:18:23 CST It has been said that the Tavern is for Men to be Men and FW seems to be intimidating, it has been said that FW run GS, well There has been no FW in the tavern for days now so now because We cannot enter... it sits empty ... 

 

Laroona 19:18:28 CST Well as it is out Rollo are we going to discusss it *S* 

 

Laroona 19:19:10 CST First of all I read the edit a banning of FW from the tavern, and the words “until the council changes the rule” to me I understand it is it not final and maybe temporary. Who knows if and when it will change, only the Captains. As all Pledged to undertake a commitment to abide by the rules and protocols of the Council of Captains, then we must accept any ruling as a given until change. We may not like it, but we have made that commitment and place ourselves in their judgement calls. Are we going to mutiny or take up arms against those we committed to? I think not, will it really hurt us to give this rule a try I think not. 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl} 19:19:18 CST aye Master Hawk, correction is noted in the notes....smiles 

 

Laroona 19:19:54 CST What I read is nothing less than open disrespect and dissent of the Council from both Free and slaves. We all have the ability to email the Council our concerns, but to have this public display of dissent does not portray GS in a very good light to other people who read our boards, and they do. Slaves are supposed to obey and never question, a Free is always right, even when they are wrong. You also may not like the rule, but you like the rest of us must accept it. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:20:16 CST anyways.. since I have been here.. and compared to some I am just but a Babe.. but I have seen Mmany bitch about this not being true Gor.. even Me.. I have said many leave cuz of it as well... not returning cuz of One.. or Another.. or just not thinking it was right for them... yet. when one rule is called upon to try get there.. it is like GS had been killed.. 

 

tassa 19:21:16 CST when tassa first came back to GS, around a year ago, the piazza was where the FW went, and slave DID go there to serve them...seemed to work out just fine that way 

 

galah{RA} 19:21:35 CST i think its just going to take time for adjustment, one week of fw not being in the tavern is not a good judge of what the future brings 

 

Laroona 19:21:58 CST Many speak about absent Captains, yes there is absenteeism, and maybe that is an issue that should be addressed by the Captains, but it is not the first time in the history of GS that this has happened and I am sure not the last. Does this lead to those who are often present give the belief they run the site, well yes it does, and I have been present in the tavern and seen inappropriate behaviour and if not present heard of it, and if I was a FM then several FW would be sporting new necklaces of the iron type. I am not perfect, but I try my best to act as a FW should, should I step out of line I expect to undergo a status change. 

 

Laroona 19:22:47 CST heee I am on a roll folks *S* 

 

Laroona 19:22:52 CST Kayla in he last post to the topic has stated that the decision is a majority of GS citizens, does she support these with figures? On the board I total 5 Free post against and 3 GS slaves, and 5 slaves who are either privately owned or their owners are not pledged to GS. Many of those who posted are newcomers and or also been absent for some time. Now this is out of a total of 20 plus Pledged Free and as the slave numbers are not up to date that is undeterminable. 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:22:55 CST and your point is, Aryda ??????? the room has sat empty for a couple of days many times before... and may do so again..... did y'all go into the Piazza instead ???? and if so, didn't you get to act * Gorean in there ???? 

 

Ardya_ 19:23:04 CST My problen Laoorna is not the ruling anymore, as you said the council ruled it ... so it is how it is,,, its That now the Only thing that has changed is now the only visitors that primarily support to the site sit in the Piazza now ,,,, THE MEN of GS need to support it too By entering 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:23:07 CST I agree... I had seen where it said temporarily as well.. I believe there is a time and place for every rule.. no matter how strong or strenuant(sp) this be.. there is definitely a time and place for this rule.. as it is.. like Ardya said.. now it sits empty.. since a new place has been born to support those that not support the rule... what type pledge is that???.. that you do not like what the Captains or Council decides.. members leave????.. instead of saying.. I do not approve.. but support You.. 

 

squishy{Sg} 19:23:40 CST nodding... still happening that way tassa...as squishy knows she has been going to the Piazza as of late and serving any in there 

 

lilly_GS 19:23:58 CST *lilly finds topaz and squishy...to fold her long legs under her to sit on the furs...running fingers through her short auburn hair revealing her silver kollar* begging pardon...may lilly be assistance to Anyone.. 

 

kath_J_ 19:24:12 CST Mistress Laroona, i would bring up the point that in a forum slaves are allowed to have an opinion and may speak it, this said respectfully, unless rules have changed 

 

galah{RA} 19:24:20 CST thats what i don't get....this upheaval is sooo rampant, one would think the FW had been banned from all of GS, not just one room...the FW are still as welcome as always, just in a different room...Masters and slaves will come there to chat just as they did in the tavern....only difference is that the tavern will be a more hard core place for Masters, so they have a room to do their own thing 

 

tassa 19:24:44 CST but what about those that chose not to post at all Mistress Laroona?? like tassa?? she has seen SOME of the FW of GS get wayyy out of hand...and SOME of the Men doing nothing about it!! 

 

tassa happens to agree with the banning issue...but, she didn't post on the boards about it, because she didn't want to post on the boards about it 

 

Laroona 19:25:34 CST Ardya I said and have noted most go to the Piazza, it is choices, I took special notice of who was where at most times I was online A FW has no choice she is here by the grace of Males 

 

lara{Zor} 19:26:08 CST well this one is goin to speak for once...she doesnt mind the no FW as it isnt proper for Them to be seen in a paga tavern...this ones problem is when a Free tells her she need not go in the tavern till it changes, to boycott it...but GS has been her home for many a years, she doesnt want to disobey a Free..but she cant stay away 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl} 19:26:28 CST whispers to lily, smiling this is Forum sis, no serving or anything, discussion only of things pertaining to Gor and GS hugs her close, then continues to scribe 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:26:46 CST LOL...LOL... SO MANY of you seem to think that this act was aimed at ONE single FW..... well for My part that just AIN'T SO..... if I thought that it would make GS better and stronger, I would go along with a rule that everybody had to wear a feather in their hair.....or paint their ass green..... LOL... 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:27:08 CST hold now ARdya.. *looking tween My legs even feeling*.. there.. last I checked.. I am FM.. *winks smiling* 

 

Laroona 19:27:16 CST tassa I did the figures and only posted those who disagreed on the boards *S* kath I am referring to the message boards *S* 

 

Ardya_ 19:28:54 CST I dont see the problem that FW were in the Tavern , the problem is that We can and have gotten away with stuff that We shouldnt have ... I would still like to see hard core GOr in there all they had to do was actually enforce it which never happens 

 

galah{RA} 19:29:09 CST from my first time on gor, our very first home was in FC....the room there was Steel Dawn but then some wanted a more hard core role playing room, more gorean so Port Kar was made...new ones went to Steel Dawn to learn and chat and they even played nude ice hockey heheheheeee hehehee those things would never have been dreamed up in the new Port Kar room.....its all a case of 'different strokes for different folks" variety is the spice of life 

 

Orion 19:29:11 CST -lol- Rollo, have you been looking at me in the Bathouse?? -covers his Green, Irish ass- 

 

kath_J_ 19:29:18 CST Mistress Laroona, i am corrected. Thank You 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:30:20 CST I will say I allowed a FW get away with things.. not cuz I was a weak FM.. but because She had many supporters and FM pledged to her with Their swords... I am not suicidal.. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:31:31 CST I know not why the ruling was made.. but since it came about the time Myself and Another were having issues.. assumptions were made simple as that 

 

lilly_GS 19:31:43 CST while this girl of no use in this forum lilly begs forgiveness to go back to the kennels for sleep..she looks forward to serving All no matter what decisions are made... 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:32:09 CST and most those Fm that have pledged their swords I have great respect for.. not wanting to kill them or be killed.. simple as that as well 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:32:37 CST WHY is it that most of y'all see this as ONLY a negative action ?????? if the Piazza is NOW the place for EVERYBODY to go and * play nice * like before.....and the Tavern is now more HARD CORE, then just hit the Piazza button instead of the Tavern button !!!!!! SIMPLE REALLY in My way of thinking....... 

 

squishy{Sg} 19:32:51 CST Yes but if everyone feels the same way as you do Master Shadowhawk... then what happens to gor? 

 

Ardya_ 19:33:21 CST has none else have anything to say on this it has been the only thing talked about for days 

 

Kovak 19:33:23 CST And what so wrong in painting your ass it just made the other one look better,what did bring on the ruling any way Rollo you have posted it has been out there for sometime but so why was it brought up now 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:34:35 CST true squishy.. and not being able to turn back time.. especially after hearing from Most.. They would have done nothing had it been according to Gorean rules and the "BOOK".. They would have done nothing 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:34:38 CST You know, so many are saying * Look how many ppl are saying NO to this change….. * but we all know that as with almost ANY idea, or situation, it is only the vocal few that seem to make their thoughts heard over and over again……. But what of the * silent majority * ???? how many of the ppl that have voiced opposition to this change are either FW, men that have FC’s that are directly concerned, or the privately owned slaves of either ????? 

 

d'lyn*~*{GS} 19:35:05 CST now that all of this is stated, and a bit out into the open.... d'lyn begins to understand the Council's decision much more, and learn towards supporting it. d'lyn believes a lot of the reason for this upheaval was people were confused. Well okay, at least d'lyn was.. *giggle* but really, it almost does make more sense, there is nothing wrong with hanging in the Piazza and only for "hardcore" stuff so to speak where Men can be Men and slaves slaves... would the Tavern be used 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:35:19 CST I was wonderin that as well Ardya.. still have not heard from those that are so against the ruling.. 

 

tassa 19:35:36 CST nods at Master ShadowHawks words that's the problem, some FW have gotten away with things for too long, and now No One is willing to stop Them 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:36:50 CST Rollo.. I am in support of the ruling.. for now.. but I see it is a moot point.. since the new room has been created at poolside.. no lesson will be learned for there is another place to run and like a slave said they are being asked or told to boycott GS.. so once again.. I ask.. what type pledge is that?? 

 

Laroona 19:37:04 CST I am happy in the Piazza I know the risks if I enter the tavern... THe Captains ruled and until it is reversed I abide by the ruling It is that simple to me Instead we have this one and that one bleating about the ruling and why, because it was assumed to be directed to one person being banned from GS I see NO where any Person was banned from GS 

 

Ardya_ 19:37:32 CST MY questions is why is it that you think only MEn and Slaves like hardcore Gor environment What you are so Different? 

 

Orion 19:37:48 CST -he holds his girl and looks around- I THINK the MAJOR problem with the ruling that MOST people are not sure they like is the fact that the FW are now being relegated to one room. NOT so much that they "lost" the bath house and other rooms of the such", but rather the fact that they pay the same fees and dues to help support our home but they have only one room. Why not get them a room of their own that they can be "FW" in and not worry bout what Free Men think for they would not wanna be caught in such a place.. Just my 2 bits for what it is worth.. 

 

Laroona 19:39:04 CST Orion we never lost the bath-house that was always a KC room 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:39:04 CST however I do believe as a FW had brought up.. if this ruling does come down as to be.. and not temp.. there need be a discount given.. 

 

Ardya_ 19:39:25 CST I guess what it boils down too is why does Having FW in the tavern effect MEN or slaves in anyway at all ... FW mouths off do something about it or is it all talk? 

 

shi'rin{Orion} 19:40:30 CST shirin has had something happen just yesterday...maybe it's 'cause she's not spent much time in the Piazza before, but here's the situation....shirin arrives and goes to the empty tavern, a FW sits in the Piazza, shirin feels she must go serve there and enters the Piazza...a FM or two arrive, she serve drinks then One FM wants to get a lil more personal but doesn't take the wench to the tavern. shirin felt very uncomfortable and felt she'd get in trouble if she let things go too far...she tried to suggest He take her to the tavern but it didn't work out...what's a girl to do in this situation? Is it the Man's place to know to move things into the tavern or His right to do whatever He pleases where ever He pleases?? 

 

Kovak 19:40:45 CST Alot of the time i support the Captain,yes rarely i do speak out on topic for it really hold no water with me..lol..most of the drama of GS,when i stick my foot out it to trip someone and litin there coin for them ..chuckles 

 

Laroona 19:40:45 CST so would any FW enter a rowdy bar and see sex going on, no she would walk out and go to another room in the building 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:40:53 CST You want to know why Kovak ????? MY only reasons for first suggesting this action are that 1. Gary M asked why so few ppl were renewing memberships ????? and many folks said that the FW were running the Tavern and driving anybody that didn't kiss their asses away..... in the end, Gary M needs bums on seats.... ( memberships ) so if the FW want a room to run, they can use the Piazza....... and the guys and slaves that DON'T want FW sticking their noses into everything can use tha Tavern..... Geeze... to ME, it makes perfect sense..... this way EVERYBODY can play. 

 

Kayla 19:41:39 CST I want to know if FW enters the Tavern with the protection of Men what happens then? will we fight amoung Ourselves over a ruling that we kill off our own pledges... and if there is a silent majority then they better speak up for those against the ruling sure are making their thoughts known.... and it is not just the FW 

 

tassa 19:41:41 CST tassa doesn't agree with the discount Master ShadowHawk...as Master Rollo stated, just like in poolside, if tassa doesn't go in some of the rooms, she doesn't get a discount...Y/you are paying to use a site, get the perks of the site, like icons, in-line picture posting, the console...not get kicked out after a certain amount of posts, etc... 

 

Haplo 19:43:00 CST why can't the men control the FW Rollo?? I personally see it as more of a lack of the men of GS for allowing FW to "run" things like that. they are women after all, they want to be the centre of a males attention as much as slaves do. the men should be keeping them under control rather than allowing that kind of behaviour 

 

Laroona 19:43:11 CST Kayla a repost for you: On the board I total 5 Free post against and 3 GS slaves, and 5 slaves who are either privately owned or their owners are not pledged to GS. Many of those who posted are newcomers and or also been absent for some time. Now this is out of a total of 20 plus Pledged Free and as the slave numbers are not up to date that is undeterminable. 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:44:59 CST and 2. many times ppl have asked for MORE hard core Gor.... we try to give folks what they want when possible....... WHY can't that be seen ????? and why make MORE rooms ???? if the Piazza is sitting there mostly unused, then USE it instead of making some bogus NEW room >>>>> 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:45:19 CST aye.. but unlike poolside taassa.. you are not in fear of being face stripped either.. that is anywhere from rated g to xxx... much different site.. unless a FW is wanting face stripped which had occurred 

 

Laroona 19:45:53 CST collar them Haplo if the FW step out of line as you have threatened to do, kill or collar 

 

Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 19:46:18 CST Then if then FM in the tavern can't tell a FW to be silent is not much of a man to begin with. I will do what I want and when I want to FW in there or not. If a FW does not like what is going on she can just leave the room. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:46:26 CST I say it stands as is right now.. then see what happens.. 

 

Kayla 19:46:27 CST the difference is when I bought My membership it was to more than I am now being limited to.. But that is not My issue... My issue is why is this happening in the first place and FW bring in more people than they have ever caused to leave 

 

galah{RA} 19:46:51 CST Gary M was real good, when he made this site, our memberships became valid for both sites, for gs and for poolside tooo....so everyone is already getting a two for one price 

 

Orion 19:47:03 CST -looks to his girl- I can answer you about yesterday my girl... You are NEVER to engage in open lust in the Piazza.. If someone wants to enjoy you then it better be in the Tavern or another room.. 

 

squishy{Sg} 19:47:04 CST If it is alright i would like to post the original description/rules/ideas of the rooms of GS when it was moved to this site... i believe that some probably don't know it and well to others it would be a good reminder 

 

Kayla 19:47:51 CST I say let the men be men and control the women.. slave and free in the Tavern... not keep them out having freaking tea parties 

 

tassa 19:48:01 CST hmm, tassa won't come in the tavern, because she doesn't want to be kolared to a FW, since she has no kolar now...so she stays out..her OWN choice...she thinks the same should apply to the FW, They know the risks, if They choose to go in, They face a kolar... 

 

kath_J_ 19:48:31 CST ~nods in agreement with Master Rollo~ here here 

 

shi'rin{Orion} 19:49:00 CST ~*~nods listening~*~ actually shirin understands Master Rollo's veiw quite well...shirin's not so much against or in the negative about the change, but just that it's change and will take some getting used to 

 

Laroona 19:49:27 CST Kayla we do not have tea parties in the Piazza and I ask how you are passing judgement on a place you have not been in the past few days *S* 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:50:04 CST Oh for Christ sake !!!! Lets get REAL here folks... You want some cold hard TRUTHS !!!!!! * Let the men control their women * ???? EVERY FC I have ever seen in on-line Gor is a case of some guy being lead around by his dick by his FC....... you can say NO all you want, but 99.9% of the time that IS the case....... 

 

Kayla 19:50:08 CST Lar that was to Rollo's post about us having tea parties.. not what is actually happening... 

 

shi'rin{Orion} 19:50:17 CST ~*~smiles as she now understands perfectly~*~ aye Master, that's what she needed, now she knows, thank You 

 

Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 19:50:32 CST By banning FW from the Tavern and Training yard they are now not allowed to watch any spars that may take place. Plus the only healer we have happens to be a FW so that means FM will bleed to death. ~L~ 

 

squishy{Sg} 19:51:54 CST Amen Master Rollo 

 

Haplo 19:52:02 CST so the only way to control them, is to ban them Rollo?? thats what the men of GS are reduced to, been made to look like weak men who cannot control a couple of FW and have to resort to banning them from the main room instead?? 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:52:03 CST LOL.. true Laroona.. I was wondering that as well.. since I have visited there.. I have only seen You, Ardya, shirin and d'yn there.. 

 

Kayla 19:52:31 CST well if the Men are being led around by their dicks... which is done more by slaves than any FW in GS....then is that not a problem of the MEN... Not the FW... 

 

Laroona 19:52:38 CST Blade we have a physician Pledge so that is not true.. and heck you can have another couple of males drag you to a medical room .. also I rarely see that room used and I am sure there will be times FW will be permitted in rooms on certain occasions 

 

tassa 19:52:49 CST but tassa has seen with her own eyes...then Men of GS do NOT control the FW!!!! 

 

Kyoto 19:53:17 CST Wanders in and takes a place against the wall, listening to the discussion. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:53:25 CST Haplo.. til You came along.. ONe was the mouthiest there.. and not cuz she could but because she had her own linemen lined up.. like I said before.. I am not suicidal 

 

Laroona 19:53:29 CST tassa well said It is not happening 

 

Haplo 19:54:24 CST no they don't tassa, the FW are free to do as they please, except for one *grins* 

 

Orion 19:54:34 CST -holds his slave by her hair as she sits in his lap- remember what I have said and if any have problems with it, they can find me any number of ways online.. 

 

Kayla 19:55:18 CST I agree it was not happening but that is the Men who are at fault not the FW who take the extra ince.. if we are going to clean house start with who is running GS.. the Men and get them to be more Gorean... This FW would not complain to see it... ~smiling at Haplo~ Tis why I picked a strong Man to align with 

 

Laroona 19:55:22 CST Haplo I object to that comment I act as a FW should as much as I can and Understand fully the risks if I do not! 

 

Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 19:55:33 CST Laroona we have two pledged here. EK and Kayla. But since I never see EK here that really only leaves us with one. If ya look on the room list you will see there is not medical room on there. 

 

Haplo 19:56:05 CST did I say she wasn't Shadow?? hell, why do you think I had threatened to kill or collar her a number of times before now. hell, I've had the linemen come up against me when I was chasing her for stepping to far over the line. now I have her on a tight reign, and she is starting to learn what that actually means, and it is coming of something as a shock to her. which, if you think about it is rather a sad thing to say 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:56:23 CST Too many FW have gotten away with TOO much for so long that they see themselves as 10 feet tall and bullet proof....... FW use their FC's as shields, and very often don't give a rats ass that their actions could get the guy KILLED .....protecting her from other guys that see her as a pain in the butt... but hey, I guess if you lose one protector, you can bat you eyes and catch another one, right ???????? Don't piss in my ear and tell me it is raining folks... THIS ole Dog been watching this shit go on for too many yrs..... 

 

Laroona 19:56:26 CST Blade well make one like you do an alcove 

 

tassa 19:56:28 CST no Master Haplo..ALL of the FW do what They want, when They want, and nothing is ever done to Them.. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 19:56:35 CST I agree... do not have ONe on council and at the same time pledge ONe simply cuz the FW asked.. or do not have the Men of council go to FW with private whispers.. 

 

galah{RA} 19:56:55 CST the main room is now going to be the piazza, thats the only real change here as far as i can see....when this new site with many rooms was made, it had a dream, and that dream got lost somewhere....each room had a purpose and the site is not being used in the way intended, i think the council only wishes to make that dream come true 

 

lara{Zor} 19:57:04 CST ok...one question..why do All blame the Others....The Masters are to blame for not takin control..FW are to blame for doin more than what They know They should..and hell sorry to say..a lot of slaves are mouthie and lots rule thier Masters... why cant W/we all take blame and just fix it and get back to enjoyin the rooms? 

 

Haplo 19:57:05 CST object to it all you want Laroona, it was true of all the FW. 

 

Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 19:57:28 CST Haplo and tassa that is not a 100% true. If you recall Rast did punish a FW. 

 

Haplo 19:58:09 CST before you make those blanket statements tassa, check Kayla's back *chuckles* she knows what happens if she steps to far while I am around but, other than that, I do agree 

 

Haplo 19:58:35 CST yea, mine Blade *LOL* and she deserved it, and I didn't object to it, name another one though 

 

kath_J_ 19:58:46 CST when kath first pledged to GS, the tavern was supposed to be for the FM and slaves and more hardcore Gor. As Master Rollo said in His post on the message board, that FW in a tavern tend to keep the slaves silent and take over any action in there and, well, change the atmosphere of the place. That was true in kath's experience. The Piazza was for FW and FM could go there to be with them when they desired. Gor is for Free Men. There are some slaves that enjoy serving Free Women. There are man 

 

Kovak 19:59:04 CST chuckles..I handle a FW just as i would a slave I've already had one run off last week...chuckles..if a FW does cross that line i happy to slap a kollar on her as any other Man here in GS would.not allows the case of men begin led the our dick's in some case there are so that are weak but we have to stand together as Men and show the weak one how to act as a a man..chuckles.. 

 

Laroona 19:59:17 CST Haplo I will object and you cannot speak for me or about me as you rarely see me as I leave when you enter and or have very little to say as you also are very silent 

 

Kayla 19:59:18 CST I have not known FW to change protectors like slaves in velcro kolars Rollo.... in over 6 years I have been with three Men... Not too bad... And most of the time FW in GS are not hooked to any Man 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:59:59 CST is it that the word * BANNED * has got everybody’s panties in a bunch ????? How about if I ask EF to change the wording ????? something like * FW are not really welcome, but if you want to come in, and get collared, PLEASE feel FREE to do so ???????? you want to argue semantics ???? 

 

Kyoto 20:00:02 CST Blade, that's a ridiculous argument. First of all, no warrior of this type is going to be so totally stupid that they are not trained in basic field dressing. Warriors are one of the five high castes and are granted knowledge that far exceeds the normal populous, you think they wouldn't know how to bandage? 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:00:05 CST aye... I agree Haplo and like I said to squishy earlier.. it was My mistake.. for I have since found out.. most.. save One.. would have done nothing.. if it had been according to Gorean rules that I expressed My rights as a FM.. that was My bad.. but that is Me.. I cannot answer and will not for Others.. as it was.. it took Me to start this forum... LOL.. ehhh.. why not... *shrugs*.. there is still conspiracy to ban Me.. BOL 

 

tassa 20:00:10 CST *biting her tongue* 

 

Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:00:57 CST Laroona I would rather have my wounds looked at in public that way it adds to the RP 

 

Haplo 20:01:13 CST yes you do Laroona, for your own personal reasons *shrugs* does that mean I haven't spent time with you before? does that mean I haven't watched GS for quite a while before hand? I have seen quite a bit before I came here Laroona, more than you probably think 

 

Laroona 20:01:39 CST LOL Rollo people would still get their panties in a twist no matter what way it was worded 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:02:27 CST there ya go Rollo.. I believe that is the problem 

 

Kyoto 20:02:30 CST Sounds good to me, Rollo. 

 

Laroona 20:03:20 CST no Haplo it is because I act like a proper FW... and I have already in the past expressed my views over you and your actions ... but you are a FM and that is that 

 

Kyoto 20:03:28 CST How would you have done so, Haplo? 

 

Haplo 20:03:34 CST it's not semantics Rollo, just plain facts. how would it be if the FW got gary to change the rules for the piazza that any FM going in there would be collared?? regardless of how you word it, very few FM would go there 

 

Kayla 20:03:53 CST If FW are kept out of the main room of a site and after 6 years it is wrong as far as I am concerned. If the Men want more control ... take it.. 

 

kath_J_ 20:03:54 CST ~blinks~ and wonders where the rest of her post went. 

 

Haplo 20:04:19 CST no you haven't Laroona, and unless you really wanna drag that up, let it drop or it will take over the main conversation here 

 

Kyoto 20:04:48 CST kath, there is a size limit to posts made by non members 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:04:56 CST what galah says is realistic... if you want things to be done in a real type action....then you would HAVE to walk THROUGH the Piazza to enter the Tavern..... what is the BIG DEAL ????? I am one of the dumbest and slowest puter users around, and even * I * can get it through my brain that if i push the Piazza button instead of the Tavern button, I go there instead... 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:05:13 CST curious question there Ya got Kyoto.. 

 

Ardya_ 20:05:18 CST Now we have heard everyone bitch ... its time to hear the bottom line ... what is the solution.... can anyone add something positive about this and put this to rest instead of arguing what the use in talking if it gets nowhere 

 

Haplo 20:05:21 CST if I say that Kyoto, a lot of men are going to be VERY insulted, and I am including all them currently here now, as all of them at one time or another have had a hand in handing that power over to the FW 

 

kath_J_ 20:05:30 CST kath remembers when Master Kyoto was trying very hard to keep all the rooms to their rightful beginnings and came against such a strong headwind about keeping FW out of the tavern, and yet that is why the piazza existed....am i right? Isn't that the way it was supposed to be? and squishy....the room rules at the beginning were very clear. i remember, i came in about that time. 

 

Laroona 20:05:31 CST Haplo your memory must be short then as you said you observed GS, what under another alias? 

 

Laroona 20:06:33 CST *sits on my hands* 

 

Kyoto 20:06:50 CST When I helped design the rooms for this new site, one of the things I wanted to see happen, Rollo, was good r/p where someone would travel through the Piazza to reach the main tavern. It makes sense since it is the "entrance" to the tavern. 

 

Haplo 20:07:25 CST no other alias *chuckles* perhaps you forget, I have been visiting GS since well before it left poolside Laroona, I have know Rollo for years, not closely I will admit. you think I wasn't here playing when I was trying to collar and/or kill Kayla?? maybe it's not my memory Laroona 

 

Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:07:33 CST Rollo not many new people have really seen the lay out of the this site. But here it is. http://goreanshores.50megs.com/piazza.html 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:07:35 CST Okay Kayla....... DONE and DONE !!!!! If FW are kept out of the main room of a site and after 6 years it is wrong as far as I am concerned. If the Men want more control ... take it.. Has anybody looked at the courtyard page of GS ???? It says clearly that the Tavern, and Bath house are places that FW DON’T want to go if they wish to remain FW !!!! As for the training yard, it says MEN practice there… NOT FW….. and it even makes way for slaves to be there either to be used as * slave capture * targets, or to practice dances IF the yard is not being used by men ….. EVERYBODY is up in arms because the Council finally decided to ENFORCE established rules …. How dare they …LOL…. The Council DID just that... but didn't ask the FW if it was okay first ???????? HOW DARE THEY !!!!!! 

 

Kyoto 20:08:05 CST What power and what FW, Haplo? 

 

Kovak 20:08:28 CST Chuckles @ Haplo I like to see a FW collar a Man that mite be fun to wager on,Me I go any where just for fun i don't go in to place here for i respect my home wishes if i didn't i go where ever i dam well pleased 

 

tassa 20:08:48 CST when GS was moved to it's own site, from poolside, the main room was Piazza...and that's where the FW were, in the Piazza...the Men that chose to do so, moved on to the tavern, not all of them did that though, some stayed in the Piazza... 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:09:15 CST exactly Rollo.. rules are being enforced.. not some for Ones gain.. but as they are stated.. for GS 

 

Haplo 20:09:49 CST I would hand the guys each a pair of balls Kyoto, cause they seem to be missing their own, and I am excluding new pledges here, as they had nothing to do with the currant situation 

 

tassa 20:09:58 CST agreeing with Master ROllo... 

 

Laroona 20:10:01 CST Folks we are talking here about a total of 3 regular FW and 2 not as regular so 5 in all WOWWWWWWWW golly gosh all this boskcrap over so few... the bottom line it is Gor 

 

Kyoto 20:10:17 CST And you are saying I did? 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:10:56 CST Haplo... if the rules say that FM get collared in the Piazza then ONLY an IDIOT would enter there..... DUH !!!!! so why is the inverse for FW so hard to understand ?????? Okay lets look at it a different way…. I, as a man, am NOT welcome in any Panther or Taluna room/site… unless I am just plain stupid enough to go where I am not wanted, or want to be captured by them ….. and that is FINE with everybody…. But say that FW are not welcome… or not very bright if they come into a place they will be enslaved in, and WHOLLY SHIT !!!!! the sky is falling !!! 

 

Kayla 20:11:00 CST You are right Rollo.. You and the Council have the power to make the rule.. and make it stick.. even though it is clear that from the posts on the boards.. that the Majority of the Pledged Free and collared slaves to those Free are against it. But the power is yours.. even if it eventually hurts GS 

 

kath_J_ 20:11:18 CST ~listening to Master Rollo and just..smiling~ 

 

Haplo 20:11:43 CST you make that decision yourself Kyoto *chuckles softly* 

 

Laroona 20:11:44 CST it is not a majority Kayla I posted the figures 

 

Kayla 20:12:35 CST of those that posted Laroona.. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:12:36 CST Rollo.. Blade.. Kyoto.. when One pledges.. what is said during that pledge? 

 

Haplo 20:13:03 CST thats not my issue Rollo, it's the fact after 6 years it is suddenly been brought to the fore after been ignored for so long, allowing them to grow comfortable there, and for that to become the main room of the site. 

 

Kyoto 20:13:43 CST Haplo, stop speaking in riddles. Say what you have to say. 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl} 20:13:53 CST scrambling furiously, trying to keep up, fingers flying across the sheets, never have before there been so many speaking at once, chuckles 

 

tassa 20:13:55 CST only the majority that actually posted on the boards disagree tassa agrees with the decision...the site was set up that way, the rules need enforced... 

 

Haplo 20:14:54 CST I am saying that until very recently, there have been no MEN to take care of the FW Kyoto, is that plain enough? 

 

galah{RA} 20:15:28 CST i think many put an opinion on the board not knowing all the facts, not understanding how simple this really was....someone made a big stink about it and turns a mole hill into a mountain....guess thats why the forum is good, for then ppl can have a broader view of everyone’s opinion 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:15:33 CST in that assessment Laroona.. does that take into fact the ones that have since changed their minds since the first ruling?... cuz in My accounting.. I have seen it is about even in all the posts 

 

Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:15:38 CST ShadowHawk I think you are talking about this.... Do you agree to abide by the rules and protocols of the Council of Captains? 

 

Ardya_ 20:15:43 CST Rollo already put it simply , the rules were there and now they are enforced live with it 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:15:49 CST the ones that have posted that is 

 

Kyoto 20:16:11 CST Hmmm, I suppose that includes the Captains and yourself, right Haplo? After all, you did just say that you've been around for six years, right? 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:16:19 CST You all know that I don't work fast..... so if I have missed any question that was aimed at me and not answered it, try again..... you know.... NOBODY has EVER kept EVERY member of a group HAPPY ALL the time..... and the present Council is no different..... piss of a FM, and make a FW happy... vise versa, or a slave , or paid members, or visitors..... or what have you..... 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:16:58 CST exactly Blade.. though when I took pledge.. I was told to pledge to.. do I agree to uphold rules and Councils decisions. 

 

Haplo 20:17:16 CST partly right, I said until recently *chuckles* there are one or 2 here now who have been slowly taking the power back. yes, but always as a visitor Kyoto, my loyalty through most of those 6 years was to the wolf brothers 

 

Kayla 20:17:41 CST I find it a huge mountain galah dear.. But then I am one it effects.. maybe if the slaves were kept out of a room where all the action and role play happened you would feel as I do 

 

tassa 20:17:43 CST six years?? GS hasn't had its own site for six years...it's been only a year since it was moved to it's own site, with it's own rooms, before, in poolside, there was no choice...only one room.. 

 

Haplo 20:18:29 CST it was previously just one room in poolside tassa *smiles* 

 

Laroona 20:18:40 CST Hawk I only counted those against ... as i wanted to point out the number of dissenters as opposed to those not even posting and not those for 

 

Kyoto 20:18:41 CST And I must admit, when MEN did decide to do something about it, when the ruling council was absent for months on end, that the FW you are referring to did nothing but bitch about how the change was made. No one thanked anyone for taking a stand as a Gorean should. No, it was bitch, bitch, bitch, you have no honor, bitch, bitch whine... 

 

Haplo 20:18:53 CST misread, sorry *chuckles* 

 

Kovak 20:19:25 CST then Call me and IDIOT then cuz I like to see the person daring enough to put a collar on my crazy ass.Bottom line will this ban be lifted or not will it dive GS as it has now or are just wasting time here if it not going any where just ppl blowing smoke up each others ass. 

 

Haplo 20:19:52 CST yes, and??? it's the nature of women to bitch and complain. big deal. just who won though Kyoto?? 

 

galah{RA} 20:21:30 CST Mistress Kayla....its not the fw being kept out of anything....the piazza will be an atmosphere just like the tavern was....the tavern now is going to be a dangerous place, a place where slaves could get raped or used or kicked aside, groped whatever...the tavern is no longer going to be a place a fw would want to be 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:21:34 CST Haplo..... I don't know who you used to be....if you say you been around for 6 yrs, then fine.... in that time you should have seem a LOT of shit happen, and CHANGE..... THIS is just the newest thing..... Life is CHANGE, folks……. Nothing stays the same forever….. things evolve and change….. if the change is not for the better, then something else takes it’s place….. and if the change IS for the better, you have a new and improved version……. The thing that it seems EVERYBODY is overlooking is that NOTHING is etched in granite FOREVER !!!!! not the Old ways, or the New ways… IF, down the road, the Council finds that this change makes GS better, then all is well….. and if it doesn’t, the stroke of a pen, and the casting of a vote can change shit back… IF THEY WISH TO DO SO !!!!!!!! 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:21:45 CST that decision has not been made here yet Haplo.. why Wwe are still going round about it 

 

Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:21:54 CST Kyoto the problem was you 3 went behind the backs of the Captains. I am sure if I or anyone else did the same as you 3. I am sure we would get the same reaction as you did. 

 

Kayla 20:22:07 CST Ohh Kyoto is it really helpful to bring up old ills? I am sure no one here has been perfect and wants all their dishonourable deeds thrown about.... and will it help? I have followed the new rules.. in fact until this forum I have not entered any GS room since the posting of the change or enforcement of the rule. So I have not broken My pledge. I am hear as is My right to say I think it is wrong... and that this is not the way to go about fixing the ills of Our Home 

 

Haplo 20:22:37 CST Rollo, we have sat around and talked of old times together before this *chuckles* so am surprised you don't remember me. have always been Haplo 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:23:54 CST Another idea that I have not brought before the Council for consideration or vote that goes along with the non FW in the tavern is that of making the tavern also * off limits * to any personally owned slave that has * restrictions * that would not allow her to serve FULLY within it……. Be you Master, FW or slave… if y’all are NOT ready and willing to * play * the tavern scene to the FULL extent, you have no business even going in there…….??????? Okay, now y’all have even MORE shit to be pissed off at me about…. But remember….. this idea…. Just like the FW thing, is ONLY a possible suggestion from Me to the Council….. * I * get only ONE vote, like any other Captain… 

 

Kyoto 20:24:01 CST Haplo, I stayed as the lone Captain when the others that joined me started to fade out for whatever reason. I did my best to make this place grow, I brought in new blood, the GS chain was the largest it had ever been. And it still was not good enough. When no one would make a decision, I would because it needed to be done. I did this all for no pay, for no thanks and a lot of headaches. And, there were two reasons I left, one, I had just found out I had diabetes and was pretty damned sick all of the time and two, I found a job that ended up making me work upwards of thirteen hours a day. Let's see, I had three things and really only time for two and since the diabetes wouldn't let me just toss it aside, I opted to leave GS instead of being a Captain who did nothing for months on end like I have seen others do. 

 

Laroona 20:24:59 CST Rollo I looked on it as it could be altered, or it could remain LOL life and laws change daily in RT and we eventually accept those, even if we do not like it *S* I also pledged to abide by the rulings of the Captains.... so I have no option the same if the laws of the land changed I have no option as they are the governing body 

 

Haplo 20:25:39 CST I actually agree with that Rollo, that would turn it from what it seems, a personal attack, to actually making a change for the tavern 

 

Kayla 20:26:07 CST Kyoto... You are not the only one to be left holding the bag at times in GS... many others have done it as well... what is the point you make? 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl} 20:26:11 CST grins as she hears Master Rollo's new rule suggestion, thinking that then she will not be in the Tavern either, and she so many, many times is the only slave present to serve the Free....LOL...too funny 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:26:55 CST Okay Haplo... I do remember you name, but didn't think it was from that long ago..... 

 

Emerald's~Mariposa~ 20:27:09 CST I've stayed quiet on this issue, since it is rare that I am here. But quite frankly I was raised the daughter of a preacher, and as young lady, properly raised, never was allowed near or in a tavern. So staying out of one virtually didn't raise any questions for me. Perhaps it should have. Often times, I'm too well behaved for my own good. 

 

Kyoto 20:27:26 CST There was no dishonor in what I did, Kayla. I still stand by my decision as I saw it as the best thing for GS. The only dishonor I saw was in not doing anything. I thought it was dishonourable for a Captain to disappear for six months with no word. To me, there is no honor in upholding your pledge. 

 

Kayla 20:27:40 CST and while we are on it.. when slaves are serving where do they serve first when there are people in both the Piazza and Tavern?... 

 

tassa 20:27:46 CST nodding at paz oftentimes tassa too, was the only slave present in the tavern... 

 

Haplo 20:27:52 CST I remember visiting from the original FSS in mikesweb Rollo *chuckles* that was in 99 

 

Kyoto 20:29:03 CST That was addressed and provided for when the new rooms were opened, Kayla. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:29:20 CST I see no reason why the slaves should have to worry bout where to be whether piazza or tavern.. only time I see it becoming an issue is when the slaves serve in one room cuz that is where their friends are.. and not whether they do or do not like a FM or FW.. 

 

Kayla 20:31:00 CST yes and I believe the rule is Tavern slaves or GS slaves serve Tavern FIRST... and that is even when there are more to serve in the Piazza.. 

 

galah{RA} 20:31:08 CST if all these changes come about, many of the slaves will be in the piazza instead of the tavern....it was a rule that white silk slaves couldn't be in the tavern, but then that went out the window tooo, so white silks would be in the piazza learning to serve 

 

Laroona 20:32:11 CST To me it seems that the rules got lost somewhere and may need revisiting *S* 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:32:13 CST I think that the point Kyoto is making for EVERYBODY that has at one time or another done EVERYTHING they could to make GS grow and be strong is that NOBODY can do it ALONE..... and keep their head screwed on straight..... the other side of the coin is that if you work selflessly it is a good thing..... but if you only want power and position so that you can do ANY damn thing you want, it is WRONG....... POWER is a heady drink, and one that far too many let get the better of them....... 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl} 20:32:33 CST then so will the trainers sis galah, helping the white silks, again leaving even less for the Tavern 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:32:38 CST ahhh.. then that is what happened when it was thought of there for sometime the slaves thought when they were in any rooms.. and a master called upon them they had to come.. and kept that rule even after GS was born.. now I understand.. 

 

galah{RA} 20:33:18 CST restricted slaves shouldn't be in the tavern where they could be groped or used, so thats going to be quite a few slaves as topaz just said...restricted slaves would only be safe in the tavern when they are with their own Master for protection 

 

Kyoto 20:33:19 CST The rule was that white silk slaves would be assigned to the Piazza since they are not allowed to fur. There was also to be a trainer there to help her along. Furthermore, if there was a large amount of slaves in the tavern and none in the Piazza, then a slave or two would be made to go there to serve. The Piazza was never to be ignored or treated as a prison, it was simply a different room with different rules. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:33:34 CST exactly Laroona.. save for that is posted in the gate house.. there are none about.. and only time you hear about them .. is when someone you do not like.. crosses them.. and is only half used too 

 

squishy{Sg} 20:33:50 CST i think that was a good rule galah *nods* 

 

Kayla 20:34:16 CST if slaves are in a private room they do not have to come to a calling.. or in another place.. their time is their own 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:34:47 CST I think instead of hashing this over.. that the rules should be hashed over and displayed openly in the beginning at the gate house.. not just description of rooms.. but the rules.. and it say.. all that agree do so by entering and posting.. 

 

Haplo 20:35:01 CST thats edging around it galah, if you allow one group in with special consideration, why not others? 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl} 20:35:06 CST topaz has been restricted her whole time as a slave, and NEVER has had a problem with ANY Master not understanding or respecting her restrictions...*shrugs* 

 

Kovak 20:35:20 CST How many Captain does GS have Active as this time ones one who come in REg.. 

 

Kayla 20:35:36 CST either way there are going to be Free pissed because slaves will not serve... 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:36:24 CST if this is to be true to Gor.. a lifestyle.. in another words something close to realism.. how can other going into the room.. can it be seen who is in that room.. therefore no punishments should be made to a slave that does not come up to serve.. or can be called out of the room.. save by their own Masters of course.. and only if the Master looks in to see if she is about 

 

Kayla 20:36:31 CST ~sits back and listens for awhile~ 

 

squishy{Sg} 20:36:36 CST i don't see how you can say that Mistress Kayla about private rooms... there were often times when i was not even in gor or i was not the one on the computer... when you would message me in msn and ask me to come and serve. 

 

Laroona 20:36:47 CST Haplo a slave obeys FW have unless it has just been changed in the last ehn defer to FM at all times.... If I see FM in the tavern and I am in the Piazza I will say to the slave pop into the tavern and offer to serve 

 

galah{RA} 20:36:48 CST yes topaz, some trainers would need to be in the piazza to help new slaves tooo....the tavern isn't going to be frequented as much as before...thats what i've been trying to say, its only a change of room, the only thing i would like to see changed is a darker color for the piazza so that a slave don't have to change her text color when moving from room to room....for thats what i can see and it happened for a short time, slaves would run to the tavern to grab something that the piazza was out of and such, easy movement for slaves to move around to those needing served 

 

tassa 20:36:51 CST it seemed to work out just fine when the site was opened...with Some in Piazza, and Some in tavern...tassa can't recall a time when Someone didn't get served.....as she knows that slaves were always running back and forth between the two rooms 

 

Kyoto 20:36:54 CST Hawk, there is a space limit in the Gatehouse, it's pushing it to have the basic room descriptions there now. 

 

Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 20:37:08 CST No Kayla, You are wrong there. IF the slave is otherwise engaged with a Master or Mistress in another room. then she needs to say so, otherwise when I Free calls the slave, especially a Tavern slave, she had best get there toot sweet. *S* And if My memory serves Me correctly, the slaves who were not in the Tavern or Piazza are supposed to watch for a Free stopping in, and then gets there right away. *S* 

 

Haplo 20:38:13 CST I was talking about the loophole that let restricted slaves in the tavern Laroona, not slaves in general 

 

Laroona 20:39:01 CST Haplo I have said it to restricted slaves who can serve drinks Gor is not all furring and sex 

 

Kayla 20:39:06 CST asked girl not commanded.. there is a difference always asking if you had time and accepting any reason you would say no and it was not to serve but as SG... and a new slave needed help... 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:39:26 CST then Kyoto.. add it to the message boards.. or webpage with link there to go directly to it.. if Tthey do not go there.. and have them sign it.. if their name is not there.. then they have no room to bitch bout rules 

 

squishy{Sg} 20:39:54 CST ummmm believe the words were... "there are free to be served in the tavern" 

 

Haplo 20:40:08 CST we are talking about the rule that would restrict FW and restricted slaves to the piazza Laroona. as in, females not able to serve fully should NOT be there, which is fine with me, I object to loopholes that allow in a particular group while leaving the rest out 

 

Kayla 20:40:55 CST tassa it never worked for it never happened 

 

Emerald's~Mariposa~ 20:41:08 CST Kyoto, You are right.. it would be cluttered with the rules posted in the Gateway. What could be done however, for those unwilling to scroll down toward the bottom is to have the link to the rules directly under each room. 

 

tassa 20:41:57 CST i recall several times that galah and tassa did just that Mistress Kayla, and topaz too for that matter... 

 

Kayla 20:42:01 CST yopu are wrong girl 

 

Kovak 20:42:13 CST How many Captain does GS have Active as this time ones one who come in REg.. 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:42:14 CST Mariposa.. there is no link on the gate page to the rules.. 

 

galah{RA} 20:42:43 CST for the short period of time that the interaction happened between rooms, it was interesting and fun....for slaves had to come into the piazza, slip on a camisk then offer to serve....take off the camisk and back to her silks to go into the tavern...its not segregation, its just a way to interact the usage of all these wonderful rooms made...topaz, if you looked into the tavern and there was only Masters there that you know, and they know your restricted and would honor that, then of course its still up to your Master, but you could be there to serve a FM, just know that its risky 

 

Laroona 20:43:13 CST Haplo and I am saying HOW I would handle and FM that were in the tavern and not enough slaves to serve ...it is not a loophole but how I handle things... 

 

Kyoto 20:43:24 CST That is what I wanted to see happen, Mariposa... 

 

squishy{Sg} 20:43:34 CST No i am not Mistress Kayla and that is all i will say on that 

 

Kayla 20:43:48 CST Kovak what is regular? ~grins~ 

 

Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 20:43:50 CST Kovak, I do believe there are 5 Captains and 2 Advisors now. Shadowglade, Rollo, Emerald Forest, MDKnight, and Bolt are the Captains. and Blade and I are the Advisors. *S* 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:44:16 CST I am curious Rollo.. how would that slave ruling be for those slaves that have been restricted from serving or talking to certain Frees.. tho they have no restrictions but just from One.. 

 

Kayla 20:44:21 CST good girl.. nothing else needs to be said on it 

 

Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:44:41 CST Kovak I think its 2 Captains and 2 Advisors 

 

Haplo 20:44:49 CST it's a loophole *chuckles* basically, any female in the tavern should be able to serve fully, if they can't, they have no reason been there regardless of what restrictions her Master placed on her, or her status as free 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:45:28 CST this is just another example of ppl wanting loopholes or NOT wanting them... IF, and I say ONLY IF a no restricted slave rule was in place, it would done so to PROTECT the slave from possible misuse, and to make it easy for her Master to know that she was better off up in the Piazza..... if HE allowed her in, then His will would be allowed.... just like I been saying about FW coming into the Tavern..... if they want a collar, then go on in..... if a slave's Master DOESN'T want her used, then keep her up in the Piazza and EVERYBODY keeps HAPPY >>>>>>> 

 

tassa 20:45:34 CST shaking her head in confusion Mistress Kayla, You are saying tassa never went from the piazza to the tavern, and back again serving?? she can recall laughing with galah, something about a fruit salad, that was kept in the cold room in the tavern, but Mistress wanted some of it in the piazza...very distinctly remembers that...going back and forth to do the serving... 

 

galah{RA} 20:46:03 CST yes...galah ran from room to room more than once, it was fun, hard and challenging, but fun tooo 

 

Laroona 20:46:18 CST Blade 2 and 2???? 

 

Haplo 20:46:29 CST thank you Rollo *chuckles* 

 

Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 20:46:37 CST Laughs heartily. Simply because a slave is restricted or punished by her Master does not mean she is restricted from serving in the Tavern what so ever. The only slaves restricted form serving in the Tavern are white sillks. All yellow and red silk slaves regardless of restrictions are permitted to serve and be in the Tavern, unless they are restricted by their Masters to not be there. No loop hole what so ever. 

 

Kovak 20:46:46 CST 66.222.88.219 So did All the Captains vote on this Thats what i want to know 

 

topaz-{Rast's_girl} 20:47:19 CST not true galah, as then topaz would be breaking the rules if in fact they are approved, and she is a slave who obeys rules… Master Blade, that is Rast, not Bolt as a Captain 

 

Laroona 20:47:21 CST LOL galah you need roller blades LOL 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:47:54 CST no worries squishy.. I know what you speak of.. and if it had not been done.. frowning would have been done or made feel badly.. 

 

Haplo 20:47:58 CST ohh good, there's been a few yellow and red silks have seen in there Paedur that I have wanted to get my hands on, thank you for clarifying they are able to serve fully in there regardless 

 

squishy{Sg} 20:48:15 CST chuckles* it is indeed fun galah... i remember doing it as well from time to time 

 

Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 20:48:38 CST Kovak, it takes only three Captains to agree to any changes here to make them effective. *S* Majority rules. *S* 

 

squishy{Sg} 20:49:02 CST nodding softly to Master Shadowhawk... i think that many probably know exactly what i am talking about Master *smiles to him* 

 

galah{RA} 20:49:04 CST yea tassa heheheheeee galah remembers that now so well....heheheheheeee 

 

Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:49:20 CST Laroona if you look at the post closer it says 2 Captains and 2 Advisors 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:49:37 CST Paedur.. My question was not for a loop hole.. only to find out.. that said restrictions of a slave not to converse or serve a certain Master.. in Tavern that would not matter.. nor anywhere else... save the Piazza.. that is what I am wondering.. the girl has no restrictions.. just against visiting with One Master. 

 

Laroona 20:49:38 CST Paedur and if the unrestricted slave is serving in the Piazza is she expected to stop mid serve to go to the tavern? seeking clarification *S* 

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:49:40 CST LOL... slave restrictions are set by the Master/Mistress that owns the slave.... and the Council has NEVER tried to overrule personal orders....... in the end, the owner is responsible for the actions of the slave..... so if they can't do this or that, they best not be where they would be required to do so....... simple as I see it..... 

 

Kayla 20:50:13 CST can't remember the last time I saw three Captains in the same week in GS 

 

Laroona 20:50:37 CST BLade that is what I read your post as saying... I understood there was 5 Captains and 2 Advisors 

 

squishy{Sg} 20:50:49 CST Doesn't mean that they are not working behind the scenes Mistress Kayla 

 

galah{RA} 20:52:00 CST yea topaz, but your the one that said that the Masters you serve know that you are restricted....to be completely safe, you would need to be in the piazza then....is the new concept for the tavern just to hard to grasp? 

 

Kayla 20:52:05 CST Doesn't mean they are either 

 

Hawk_Rarius 20:52:10 CST thank You Rollo.. what I thought.. but wanted it said.. so there was not a loop hole to be created.. a lot of politicians here.. Ya know.. BOL.. 

 

Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 20:52:48 CST Haplo, You still MUST respect any owned slave's restrictions or pay the piper, and knowing a few of the owners, that may just mean Your head. LOL Shadowhawk... if a Master has restricted their slave from serving only One Free, I think THAT is most childish, but even so, then THAT personal restriction needs to be posted on the slave boards so the slave will not be held to do something another Master in the room may insist on. Laroona... if the slave is otherwise engaged in a serve then they should finish the serve, and then beg to go to the Tavern to serve the Free Man there. No disrespect should be shown to either, One needs to know they will come as soon as they are done serving, and the other needs to know there is One waiting to be served. *S*