Xertog 19:39:30 CST
The festival is June 2 & 3.. I hope slaves are writing dances, FW too.. We could use some folks to promote it by making post on other message boards.
samira{GS} 19:40:44 CST
samira doesn’t know how to post to other boards
Laroona 19:42:19 CST
maybe allocate one person Xertog to post on several boards
ie Jag, CounterUrth, CG...would be the main one I can think of
SLAVES DEFINITION OF DISRESPECTFUL
Xertog 19:42:11 CST
OK I got one.. It is, ask the slaves for their definition of the term "disrespectful".
I think we can open that for anyone to comment on.
Laroona 19:44:53 CST
Xertog since when has it come down to slaves deciding if the are disrespectful?
Penny 19:45:04 CST
I ran to my trusty old dictionary for a base reference for this one... hehe.
Showing lack of respect, discourtesy...
amira 19:45:22 CST
~raises her gaze~
any statement or action that could or may possibly be offensive to a Free Man or Free Woman
bahi{HoK} 19:46:03 CST
any action that would be rude and discourteous but thats a very encompassing term Master
samira{GS} 19:47:21 CST
a slave can be disrespectful in actions, thoughts and words. Mistress it is not up to them to decide if they were disrespectful but, she is sure that those that behave in such manner know exactly what they are doing
bahi{HoK} 19:48:10 CST
lying is discourteous, sneering is also, unwarranted negative behavior.. or even the tone of voice used could be disrespectful no matter the words, body language also
Penny 19:48:13 CST
I know that from my point of view as a free person, I just like to see the slaves being friendly. NOT catty, which I see waaaaaayyy too often.
It kills me, we're all supposed to be a family here.
And if everyone is genuinely friendly toward one another, then everyone should (in theory) be showing respect for one another
amira 19:48:22 CST
cants her head softly~
can slaves disrespect one another?
bahi{HoK} 19:49:05 CST
they can and do at times amira.. though shouldn't
bahi{HoK} 19:49:19 CST
bahi thinks anyway
samira{GS} 19:49:29 CST
amira yes they can
leda{GS} 19:49:36 CST
anything a FW or FM deems disrespectful !
Laroona 19:50:30 CST
slaves often fight among each other... mainy to gain attention of Free....
a Free should ignore any slave spats... LOL
or send them to the sand pit to fight it out... LOL
bahi{HoK} 19:50:55 CST
oooooooo.. or mud pits!!
whispers{GS} 19:51:00 CST
yes amira they do sometimes, unfortunate but there are small clicks within the chain and other personal own slaves
amira 19:51:33 CST
~winks at bahi~
maybe jello pits?
sen{HoK} 19:51:57 CST
And a Master in the mud pits to referee
~nodding~
bahi{HoK} 19:52:27 CST
hmm.. do they really fight amongst themselves to gain attention from the Free? or is it to try to set some sort of pecking order between themselves sometimes also? have to think on that one a bit
jasma{LB} 19:52:34 CST
hmmm jello
samira{GS} 19:52:40 CST
definately sen ~nods~
Deirdre 19:52:42 CST
*raising one delicate eyebrow at leda's response......giving a sardonic half-grin*
Penny 19:52:44 CST
The whole "clique" thing annoys me to no end.
Didn't that end in Jr. High school?
Sure, people have other people that they like more than some, but everyone should be courteous to one another, regardless.
Laroona 19:52:51 CST
NOTE PLEASE IF ANY GET ANY PM'S FROM KOVAK PLEASE ALL IGNORE THE BANNED FOOL
jasma{LB} 19:53:00 CST
i feel they do it for both reasons, bahi..
bahi{HoK} 19:53:32 CST
~ whispers to sen.. now thats an excellent idea!! and grins~
Xertog 19:53:35 CST
I'm gone for a minute and they are tossing mud .. LOL
jasma{LB} 19:53:39 CST
~nodding with agreement to Mistress Penny's words~
jasma{LB} 19:54:06 CST
and jello, Master.. lol
amira 19:54:22 CST
slaves will be slaves Master Xertog
smiles softly at Master Sandman
Penny 19:55:15 CST
In the books, the slaves were nasty to one another and fiercely competitive. BUT, at the end of a day, they were all just slaves, no more than just chattel. And they knew it.
Laroona 19:55:24 CST
laughing maybe the mud or jello pit set up in training yard and all can watch from the bleachers LOL
Xertog 19:55:45 CST
kovak has run along. If he does return please put him on ignore.
Penny 19:56:03 CST
Wait a minute... instead of jello wrestling, what about pudding wrestling?
I don't like jello, it tastes funny.
*nodding matter of factly*
bahi{HoK} 19:56:17 CST
yip yip Mistress. so very true
jasma{LB} 19:57:20 CST
~laughing softly at Mistress Pennys' words about jello~.. well pudding wrestling may be ok till the milk broke down too much in it
bahi{HoK} 19:57:37 CST
heh.. then you'd end up with rather blooming slaves if you added Master referees to the pudding pit.. someone would have to lick away all that pudding
bahi{HoK} 19:59:22 CST
yes Master Xertog
Xertog 19:59:48 CST
I think this topiic ran its course fast.
Penny 20:00:37 CST
Hmmmmm... maybe use skim milk, then? Does skim milk break down less quickly?
*hopeful looks*
And anyway, jello is VERY cold to roll around in.
Don't ask.
heh.
jasma{LB} 20:01:07 CST
~chuckling softly~
sen{HoK} 20:01:14 CST
~innocent blink~
Mistress...pudding is very cold to roll around in too.
bahi{HoK} 20:02:02 CST
oooo.. sounds like a voice of experience
~ laughs ~
samira{GS} 20:02:08 CST
and both are very sticky ~smiles sweetly~
bahi{HoK} 20:02:17 CST
bahi has a question
RELEASING OTHERS PERSONAL INFORMATION
Xertog 20:02:20 CST
This is a question as it was sent to me:
what should a girl do if as a trainer she shared personal information with a trainee and that information wAs then shared with One outside of GS
I think it can be made to fit any online relationship. Between any two people.
samira{GS} 20:03:37 CST
that is a good question
jasma{LB} 20:03:40 CST
personal info should be kept between the parties that spoke of it, not to be shared with the world so to speak
whispers{GS} 20:03:49 CST
well, stop sharing personal information for one thing
bahi{HoK} 20:03:54 CST
make urt treat out of the one that shared
Penny 20:04:08 CST
Jello isn't as sticky as pudding...
*shaking my thoughts out of food products and back to the new topic*
Ramses 20:04:25 CST
has to agree with whispers
fidget_{GS}t 20:04:36 CST
roll them in pudding?
amira 20:04:51 CST
~chuckles softly~
that is one idea bahi!
would it be right to confront that persona.?
orli 20:05:02 CST
not sharing personal information is one of the first
hard line rules slaves, and Free, learn at GS
jasma{LB} 20:05:42 CST
be vary weary of giving personal info out.. as well as make sure you trust the person first.. which can be hard in this online world.. (not just a Gor world, but .. well you know)
Laroona 20:05:43 CST
that should remain private period
and not shared with any no matter if external to GS or even internal...
RT information is RT and private..... and peoples RT should be respected at all times.... and NONE should play judge jury and executioner of another's private life ... that is wrong morally and legally..
Penny 20:05:52 CST
I agree with whispers on that one.
Sadly, I have been majorly burnt in years gone by and have learned my lesson.
I don't tell anyone anything that I wouldn't want to see on the front page of the newspaper, because that's about how safe any little tidbit would be in this online environment.
I have lots of people that I adore here online, but when I need to talk, I go to my husband for support.
Deirdre 20:05:57 CST
Xertog.......I think that all comes down to personal integrity. There are some very nasty, untruths going around. The more they are stirred, the more they stink. We just need to stop talking about it......and perhaps whoever is behind it will realize how useless it is. Pandering r/t information is beyond hateful.......it is evil....and perhaps even unlawful
Sandman,,Builder_ 20:06:29 CST
there should be a high level of trust before personal information is shared ..when trust is broken, it cannot easly be repaired .. as for the trainee .. some level of punishment would be appropriate
bahi{HoK} 20:06:41 CST
hmm.. a trainer might share a past personal experience as a tool in training.. is it right to take that confidence.. given in trust to be used for learning and.. well.. betray that trust and betray? who is really in the wrong there?
Xertog 20:06:57 CST
This is the GS rule on RT information:
NO PERSON IS REQUIRED TO GIVE OUT ANY REAL TIME (RT) INFORMATION, NOR CAN THEY BE FORCED TO, BE FREE OR SLAVE. Any person insisting that RT information is to be given to them will be removed
If anyone pressures you for RT information I want to hear about ASAP! C&P it and e mail me: Xertog@hotmail.com or the Council Goreanshores@hotmail.com
jasma{LB} 20:07:25 CST
~listening more~
whispers{GS} 20:07:26 CST
whispers has always felt that her life is pretty much open, she desides who she shares rt info with. ~shrugs her small shoulders~ Gs tells us not to give info out unless you want to. so you better make sure that A the info is not private and B You know or trust who your speaking with, for really lets face it to most and maybe some we are just names and icons
Laroona 20:07:33 CST
from the rules, manuals and websites.... this would and should apply to those sharing any if so privileged to gain any...
"NO PERSON IS REQUIRED TO GIVE OUT ANY REAL TIME (RT) INFORMATION, NOR CAN THEY BE FORCED TO, BE FREE OR SLAVE. Any person insisting that RT information is to be given to them will be removed "
amira 20:07:59 CST
~ shifts ~
amira will be honest this is her topic
she had shared some thing with a girl she was training.... in an obviously vain attempt to make or help the girl feel more comfortable and in an attempt to help her understand and figure out the best way to train the girl
unfortunately
some of that information was shared the other night in a PM to Another
Laroona 20:08:03 CST
eeps as I copied Xertog
samira{GS} 20:09:07 CST
bahi the one that broke the confidence is in the wrong in samiras opinion
bahi{HoK} 20:09:11 CST
was that RT stuff or an incident that was online related amira?
Laroona 20:09:21 CST
well said Deidre *S*
amira 20:09:24 CST
and short of~b~ slapping this girl~
amiras trying hard to maintain a calm demeanor
bahi{HoK} 20:09:30 CST
bahi think so also sami
Sandman,,Builder_ 20:09:33 CST
frowning as I Hear amira's words
amira 20:10:18 CST
~nods listening ~
orli 20:10:21 CST
it happened to orli as well
hard to remain closed off when one is very open
but if that is how one must be....then so be it
unfortunately, makes for a very cold environment
Deirdre 20:11:03 CST
amira, lovely.......anyone who knows you knows how pure your heart is. you obviously trusted someone who is beyond contempt. I have trusted My instinct about people many times.....and only once or twice have I been burned by it. It happens to good people too. This slave that told......well........she should never again be trusted.....by Aanyone.
Laroona 20:11:12 CST
amira for a slave to disclose that maybe the removal of a tongue would suffice... hmmmmmmmmm
bahi{HoK} 20:11:27 CST
~ sighs~
how sad that a few rotten apples can have such a wide impact
perhaps if actions like that were treated more harshly it wouldn't happen as often?
jasma{LB} 20:11:47 CST
~just listening now~
Penny 20:12:27 CST
*nodding to orli*
Yes, it does. Which is why it is a good thing to make sure that you have real flesh and blood people in your lives that you can see face to face and trust.
Online, you don't really know who is behind a name, what they're about, what their values are. You see a tiny bit that gets revealed as a person chooses.
In real life, you have a more realistic picture, and can usually feel more confident in who you choose to confide in.
Deirdre 20:13:00 CST
*winking at amira*
Why don't you tell Me who she is, pretty one.....and I wil b-slap her........with glee and gusto........as is fitting My reputation now as a FW who hates slaves and calls them names. *grinning and winking at her*
Laroona 20:13:01 CST
maybe named and shamed is an option....
but I would suggest that council be advised and let them decide... *S*
amira 20:13:56 CST
~chuckles softly at Mistress Deirdre~
Mistress Laroona that has already been taken care of i believe
Laroona 20:15:24 CST
Dei when you finish can I have a shot too... LOL
orli 20:15:32 CST
*turns to Mistress Penny~
aye Mistress.....and perhaps the anonymity of c/t allows people to think that the info really is ok to share since it is online........doesn't make it right.....but perhaps an explanation....online doesn't make experiences or feelings any less real just because the person is not right there
amira 20:16:38 CST
~emerald gaze flows across the room~
watching and listening intently
Xertog 20:16:59 CST
Any other topic suggestions? Send me a PM
Deirdre 20:17:14 CST
*grinning back at amira...and winking......and then pondering the earlier question about disrespect.....thinking perhaps there may need to some defining of the word integrity......*
Deirdre 20:17:59 CST
Roo.......When I get through with the one in question, there won't be anything left, I do believe. *grinning*
jasma{LB} 20:18:10 CST
i know i tend to trust way too easily at times.
Laroona 20:18:29 CST
Drats there goes my fun Dei *pouts*
tavelia{EF} 20:18:57 CST
~she giggles hearing Mistress Deirdre... sooooo glad she is not the one She speaks of~
amira 20:19:34 CST
~tis a very fine line walked as a trainer or a former trainer tho jasma
what ws shared ws not earth shattering nor could it possibly hurt amira
it ws the point that it was shared at all that not only hurt but angered as well
Penny 20:19:50 CST
Well, experiences may *seem* real, orli, but I can tell you from experience that things aren't always what they seem...
*chuckling*
For instance, in our house, at just about any given moment, no matter whether it's Kyoto or me at the keyboard, we have at least one child talking to us in the background, and we're almost always doing other things.
So men who think slaves are all hot and bothered may well be talking to someone who is doing her nails, or a woman who thinks a man is really into the conversation may be talking to someone who is changing a diaper.
*grins*
That's why real time is just that... more real.
jasma{LB} 20:20:54 CST
~listening to Mistress Penny and nodding head~
TREATMENT OF NEWCOMERS TO GS
Xertog 20:21:15 CST
NEW TOPIC:
How guests visiting GS are to be treated.. have seem some pretty bad stuff lately.. making fun of names, etc
I have not seen this my self. This is the first I have heard of it.
Deirdre 20:21:17 CST
*chuckling at Penny's comment.......and nodding in complete and total agreement*
More than really real, huh Sweetie....*S*
bahi{HoK} 20:21:56 CST
Doesn't this speak back to the first topic brought up tonight? that of disrespect? same difference
bahi{HoK} 20:23:37 CST
bahi saw a 'name' enter the other night.. was Yak.. and was greeted with narrowed eyes and a Greetings.. Master.. Yak???
bahi{HoK} 20:23:45 CST
is that acceptable?
tavelia{EF} 20:24:00 CST
~her head tilts at the question~
Master Xertog... is that in reference to Free... and slaves alike... or??
Penny 20:24:16 CST
Guests should be treated as just that, welcome guests.
I see ariel welcome everyone who comes in, and every single slave and free should be as courteous.
When I'm in for a minute and may not be in public, I try to whisper if I see an unfamilar face, just to offer a welcome.
Most of the time, no one whispers back, but I feel better that at least I tried, anyway
Deirdre 20:24:18 CST
*rolling My eyes at the next question*
I guess that's a smokescreen in order to divert attention from the person who knows that she has broken a trust and knows that Mmany in here know who she is.
I participated in making fun of vega's name two forums ago. I did it. As did others who have apologized for it. I have not apologized. Just to set the record straight.
Ulrich 20:24:32 CST
I always thought that guests should be made to feel welcome, unless they come in stepping on toes.
Laroona 20:24:37 CST
Please keep greetings to whispers please for the sake of the C&P' ing people and later the editors
samira{GS} 20:24:41 CST
not in samira's eyes bahi, she sees that as being disrespectful
Zoran 20:24:50 CST
sitting back think I not seen anyone being rude
amira 20:24:59 CST
~frowns softly~
isnt it the understanding of not only slaves but the Pledged Free as well that each Guest entering be treated as a potemtial member. and should be treated with respect and welcome
remembering as well that in Gor there is something about Strangers?
Xertog 20:25:01 CST
I think it applies to both Free and slaves tavelia
bahi{HoK} 20:26:07 CST
bahi thought so also Master
Deirdre 20:26:15 CST
*glaring at the girl in question*
you gonna hide behind your silks, baby? Gonna play headgames instead of finding your intestinal fortitude to deal with what you have wrought?
Laroona 20:26:35 CST
unless the Free is disruptinve I understand as a pledged Patron to welcome any newcomer to Gorean Shores and make them feel at home.... so they end up becoming part of the GS
Zoran 20:26:50 CST
rember a new person if they know of Gor understand
that one that is new is a Stranger and is held in that until they have become known
stranger? enemy
telaise_{MDK} 20:27:23 CST
well surely it hasn't been the case of a slave making fun of a Free....
but what if another Free would do that to a new comer who was Free?
tavelia{EF} 20:27:47 CST
~smiles at Master Xertog~
thank You Master
tave agrees with samira about bahi's greeting... a slave should NEVER narrow their eyes at a Free... no matter if we know them or not... you should always greet... the same as you greet all Free... a slave has no choice... she cannot select who she greets what way... with guests... unless commanded by a Free of GS...
~smiles and nods~
tave also agrees with amira... slave or Free entering... could be a potential member... how would you feel... if you were treated rudely... would you really want to return to someplace you didn't feel comfortable
Sandman,,Builder_ 20:28:03 CST
shrugging Gor is Gor.. but the Golden Rule has always held me in good stead
Laroona 20:28:15 CST
so the first post should be one of welcome then see how they act... then r/p it accordingly IMO
Zoran 20:29:02 CST
but if we are to nice then is that Gor?
does one not have to earn the trust of there home
Penny 20:30:19 CST
I agree with that, Laroona...
For Free, it is always nice to direct them in whispers to the homepages... do we still have a link around somewhere for that? I'm pretty lost in that regard these days... *g*
Xertog 20:30:24 CST
Lets stop the veiled questions that are really targeted at people. OK folks?
amira 20:30:42 CST
~eyes narrow perceptively~
shifts restlessly on her heels
Laroona 20:30:45 CST
Zoran Tom Brown enters
yes an odd name
but we make him welcome .... unless he/she tries to be a total ass we help that person learn....
and often they change their names to one more suited to Gor... *S*
samira{GS} 20:30:46 CST
samira feels it is more about being respectful to each newcomer, more so then being the nice friend
tavelia{EF} 20:31:02 CST
~head tilts slowly~
Master Zoran... from a slaves point of view on the trust... a slave... does not have the trust a Free to greet properly... that is a slave's DUTY to do so... tave can't speak from a Free's point of view... but as a slave... Guest... not known... whatever... they should NEVER be disrespectful... no matter what name they use...
Zoran 20:31:08 CST
Sandman is not polite to hold ones self in public lol
Deirdre 20:33:03 CST
*looking at Him with gratitude and respect*
Thank You Captain Xertog.......I appreciate that last statement.
Sandman,,Builder_ 20:33:13 CST
laughing at Zoran's words.. true true
amira 20:33:20 CST
~ eyes close a deep breath inhaled
please forgive amira but she must go before she dishonors not only herself but GS as well
this girl wishes All well
Laroona 20:33:37 CST
the slaves are correct they are to treat all free with respect...
they know if trouble looms how to deal with it... *S*
Zoran 20:33:53 CST
tavelia in the case of a slave yes it is not your place you are there to serve
but as Free we are to easy to greet over a new person
I take my time and over that I make them welcome
I a pull all in so quick what does that say of my person
Sandman,,Builder_ 20:34:39 CST
of course the staff I refer to is my measuring staff ,, hardenned steel to be sure
IS THERE ENOUGH ROLE PLAY IN GS?
Xertog 20:33:43 CST
NEXT QUESTION: Is there enough role play in GS?
I think that was targeted at me.. LOL
{KUURUS}silken 20:34:54 CST
well..silks must say....i really nada sure what forum is about this nite....is to feel intense indeed...undertones.....silks to wish All in GS well...have rt...smiles
Laroona 20:35:27 CST
laughing at Sandman as his staff can wallop urts into next hand LOL
Deirdre 20:35:43 CST
*chuckling at Zoran*
Zoran 20:36:18 CST
lol at Xertog
I have traveled and I have seen many more in to there character
it make the online seem alot more fun to me
going into the training yard and practicing
while other are gathering reeds
things like that
there are other ways to RP other then serving and furring lol
telaise_{MDK} 20:36:19 CST
tela has definately seen more... ummmmmmm.. elaborate role play done in other chats.. and it's truely very fascinating... tho she feels she doesn't know enough to partake in such...
tavelia{EF} 20:36:27 CST
~ponders that question~
what is considered enough roleplay??
to tave... she feels there is... everyone has other priorities they have to deal with... noone can be here 27/7...
Laroona 20:37:53 CST
r/p can only occur when some people establish a story line.. and maintain it... IMO
orli 20:38:10 CST
orli has seen and even participated in indepth r/p elsewhere
it is possible.....but all have to get into that sort of mind set
Penny 20:38:31 CST
That's a good question, Xertog...
As far as storylines, we really don't see much of a "campaign" happen around here, where people go on a raid, play out a story, that sort of thing...
A lot of sites are run on more of a tabletop roleplay base, where everything is in character, the characters (in some sites anyway) even roll dice for random events.
I think here, people have always just been more themselves, which is a good and bad thing.
Zoran 20:39:18 CST
I am a merchant but even as a Merchant I can train
Laroona 20:39:26 CST
but for petes sake no killing off a character and then re-incarting under another name within ehns
Laroona 20:40:37 CST
Zoran I recall you and a few of us r/p going to your shop and your making it lighter in the back room etc.... that went on for a while.. as all played a role... *S*
telaise_{MDK} 20:40:50 CST
~sits quietly in deep thought~
Penny 20:41:14 CST
I know that for me, I get a heaping helping of roleplay very week with our house being filled up with teenage girls sitting around rolling dice and being led by our handy dandy dungeon master in Dungeons and Dragons.. hehe.
It's wild and crazy fun, a great creative outlet for the kids (and us).
We also get together with grownups for tabletop gaming.
Since that's where our background is, I have a hard time morphing into online roleplay, I don't work well without a character sheet and dice... hehe.
Zoran 20:41:40 CST
shakes head killing that is the last thing I am talking about
but some one being stolen
and occasional brawl in the Tavern
shoves Ulrich grins
Zoran 20:43:04 CST
yes Laroona as I did with topaz working for me in my shop we need more of that sometimes I feel are home is more like a chat room of gor
samira{GS} 20:43:36 CST
watching Masters sparring in the training yard ~sighs~ with some side betting
Laroona 20:43:48 CST
but but Zoran you wanted the FW to try on silks LOL
bahi{HoK} 20:43:56 CST
~ nods her head in agreement~
would lend a lot more color and fun
orli 20:44:26 CST
*smiles at samira~
orli was previously at a site where the Master's sparred, not the same Master's, on a daily basis....it was fascinating to watch
Zoran 20:44:41 CST
yes samiria more of that
and Laronna is that not how I got my rep LOL
tavelia{EF} 20:45:00 CST
tave has a question... what about girls... that wonder here from other places... or captured and brought here... are they expected to change how they are... to "fit" what others feel they should... or... have fun... and continue playing the character they always have...
tave asks.. because... when she first came here... she was a savage slave... she has always been a savage slave... but... she was told... she HAD to be something else... and... it lost its fun for her... does all slaves have to be "alike" so to speak in mannerism.... or... can slaves be different... such as silks... bonds... savage slaves... etc?? a mixture
Deirdre 20:45:11 CST
orli.....That use to happen a lot here in GS.....many, many, MANY moons ago. It was fun......exciting......and really quite educational.
samira{GS} 20:45:12 CST
orli, samira has seen it as well ~smiles~ very fascinating
Sandman,,Builder_ 20:45:24 CST
I know I enjoyed the tarnship build for the last festival,, look for a rebuild on it on the boards soon (rti here bb in a bit)
Penny 20:45:33 CST
The guys used to spar a lot more around here, but I know in Kyoto's case, anyway, he works hard all day, comes home, and is exhausted. It's been much harder for him to spar since his brain surgery.
Penny 20:46:41 CST
*hugs to tavelia*
Individuality is the spice of life. Who wants everyone being exactly alike? What a boring snooze it would be to come in if that were the case.
I'd say be yourself, and enjoy.
Ulrich 20:47:09 CST
*chuckling as I give Zoran a good shove back*
You're lucky the urts were biting my ankles and I barely felt that. *L*
True, a little fisticuffs here and there would make it more interesting.
Xertog 20:47:13 CST
At the last 2 festivals sparring got very little interest. I hope this festival coming up will be different.
samira{GS} 20:47:17 CST
~smiles to Master Zoran~
Deirdre 20:47:31 CST
Penny......Kyoto was....bar none.......one of the best fighters I have ever watched. He was damn good at sparring. In fact....the best spar I've ever observed was when He and Rast Dulan went at it for that contest......remember? *S*
Laroona 20:48:00 CST
good idea tavelia but I think that there has to be pre-arranged between sites.... *S*
orli 20:48:20 CST
Mistress *smiles at Mistress Deirdre~ so, how does a site such a GS get back to that?.....orli thinks people have to give a lil more to get a lil more.....the effort has to be there.....its not about coming into the Tavern day in and day out and being served and dragging a girl off to the furs....well *grins~ ok....lets be honest....sometimes it is.....but not all the time....slaves can roleplay a lil more also.....make it more fun...Gor is harsh yes....but that doesn't mean it cannot be fun
bahi{HoK} 20:48:46 CST
bahi agrees Mistress.. but adds in also within the boundries set by the Free they happen to be in the presence of
Laroona 20:48:56 CST
Zoran and please never change because you keep this old FW on her toes LOL
Zoran 20:49:21 CST
lol as I feel the shove back
yes I miss Rast Dulan
and Xertog I know I will be fighting this time nods
tavelia{EF} 20:49:44 CST
~hugs Mistress Penny~
thank You... yeah... tave is bold... brazen... and takes liberties... but... that is how she is... not to mention a spitfire if crossed... ~giggles~... she loves her sisters... that is a given... and she loves to be playful... and have fun...
Ulrich 20:50:23 CST
R/T is preventing me from sparring at the festival.
My only chance would be Sunday, but it's over by then
Zoran 20:50:28 CST
lol if I change
you think I am up to something LAronna LOL
samira{GS} 20:50:34 CST
samira is definately going to be there to watch the sparring ~nods~
Penny 20:51:22 CST
*grinning to Deirdre and shaking my head*
I don't remember all the fights, my memory is seriously in the dumpster these days.
BUT, I will agree that he was one of the most fantastic fighters I've ever seen. He did inordinate amounts of research, and he knew his stuff. Not to mention his excellent writing skill s which brought it all to life.
*preens and feels thankful to be married to the big lug*
Laroona 20:51:48 CST
could there be more interaction between all the rooms
thus we could all play out our castes and r/p to that...
ie warriors sparring
scribes taking bets
as some examples
bahi{HoK} 20:51:49 CST
ooo bahi also
~ nods nods~
Xertog 20:51:52 CST
I'm glad to hear that Zoran. Send your name to Kyoto telling him you plan to fight and when you can be around on Friday June 2. gsfestival@hotmail.com
samira{GS} 20:52:21 CST
~grins n winks to bahi~
Deirdre 20:52:27 CST
orli.....I think that when people aren't familiar with Norman's books then realistic Gorean roleplay is almost impossible....to be honest......I think a lot of the crap that GS is dealing with at the moment is because Ppeople....both Free and slave....do NOT understand the "sensibilities" of Gor.......and they add their politically correct Earthen standards to a "world" that was sooooo very different.
orli 20:52:39 CST
*smiles at Mistress Laroona...thinking that is a great idea~
telaise_{MDK} 20:52:47 CST
~sighs softly as festivals always co-incide with hubby coming home~
tavelia{EF} 20:52:51 CST
ohhh ohhh ohhh... tave has a question about the festival... is it a Port Kar festival thing??
Penny 20:53:29 CST
tavelia, playful is a good thing... *grins*
Without a sense of play, why bother to be here? If logging in is a chore because everyone feels like they have to be something they're not, then who;d want to log in?
Xertog 20:53:33 CST
Can you make the Oar Dancing on Saturday Ulrich? That was a big hit at the festival in December.
orli 20:53:41 CST
*turns back to Mistress Deirdre~
here here Mistress....orli would agree with You completely
tavelia{EF} 20:54:14 CST
~smiles at Mistress Penny~
tave didn't... not at all... she actually distanced herself from it for a while
Laroona 20:54:49 CST
orli a scibe does not only scribe events but can draw up contracts
say X fights Y... contract on outcome is drawn up among both parties by scribe..... ie your slaves are mine for a hand.. etc....
Ulrich 20:54:50 CST
Nay Captain. Friday and Saturday I'll have little if any time, and if I do, I don't know when it will be.
telaise_{MDK} 20:54:51 CST
~nods in agreement with Mistress Deirdre~ and being someone who's never read Norman's books.. she still gets what her place as a slave is...
she thinks anyway
Penny 20:55:32 CST
*nodding to Dierdre*
I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, but I do know that I'm sick of hearing whining all over Gor (not just here) about how men hurt girls' feelings, etc. That men are too harsh, that the men should be more nurturing.
That's all well and good, but that's not what people come to Gor for.
Laroona 20:55:35 CST
well said Deidre
bahi{HoK} 20:56:02 CST
~ wonders if someone ought to rp refilling the kitchens.. those cupboards have to be getting pretty bare by now~
samira{GS} 20:56:44 CST
too harsh? ~blinks~
Penny 20:56:51 CST
*nodding to tavelia*
Yeppers, I've gone *years* without coming online when it stopped being fun.
if I need a headache, I'll hit myself in the head with a hammer and save myself the time.. heh.
orli 20:57:05 CST
*smiles at Mistress Laroona~
those things are great because it gets slaves doing and
roleplaying other ideas and events....something out of their
element....other than serving
don't get orli wrong.......this girl lovvvves to serve
but it does get mundane at times....other r/p's help
break that up
telaise_{MDK} 20:57:08 CST
bahi.. does that go along with girls doing chores?? perhaps making note that such and such is running low in supply?
~hearing Mistress Penny~
first thing tave was told when she stepped foot in Gor...
Gor is harsh
Gor is not fair
Gor is a MAN's world
Deirdre 20:58:25 CST
*nodding to telaise*
Not very long ago I was "taken to task" by a slave that objected to Me pointing out that on Gor slaves were regarded as "beasts"...and "property". I would NEVER EVER compare a person to an animal in My r/t. I don't THINK that way. But....you see.....that's where the problems start.....as a GOREAN FW that is EXACTLY how Deirdre would view a slave.....especially one that didn't understand her place....and was being disrespectful....and basically a smart ass.
tavelia{EF} 20:58:31 CST
~giggles at Mistress Penny~
a hammer... why not a frying pan... they are heavier and hurt more... ~blinks cutely~
Xertog 20:58:38 CST
I'm sorry to hear that Ulrich.
tavelia it is the Procession to the Sea Festival . . The info is here -> http://www.gorean-shores.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=753
bahi{HoK} 20:58:56 CST
it would to a point.. but why end it there? why not make more of it then someone making a list and putting the stuff away? where does it come from ? who delivers it? is it delivered? who pays for it? heh.. whos swipes it? what. whichever
Zoran 20:59:08 CST
well said tavelia
Penny 20:59:12 CST
Back in the day when Kasba was around, I can remember afternoons spent where there'd be haggling over goods, and there was jewelry to be begged, new silks to be sewn...
Is there even a merchant around these days?
*looking around hopefully*
Laroona 20:59:37 CST
say you are slave to X and he likes a serve one way and Y another X loses and so slave is met with a challenge... as well as involving many if it was put on the boards as an upcoming event, the contract and then the result...
telaise_{MDK} 21:00:15 CST
*nods with Mistress Deirdre*
a very wise Master once told tela.. "if you're going to be a slave lil one.. leave your feelings at the door"
orli 21:00:41 CST
Mistress *looks to Mistress Deirdre~ and in that instance...the slave should have been treated just as that....a beast and chained to anything that didn't move
Penny 21:00:54 CST
*winking to tave*
I wouldn't want to go into competition with Parthia over frying pans... a hammer is simpler, and doesn't involve even a hint of me cooking... hehe.
Laroona 21:01:00 CST
bahi back in the old day we had these invisible slaves who did marvelous things LOL
Deirdre 21:01:10 CST
*nodding to Penny and smiling as She talks about My former FC*
Aye Pens.........He was damn good at the haggling.......
*chuckling*
jasma{LB} 21:01:17 CST
when i was FG.. a long time ago, i'd let Master Shadowglade know when supplies were getting low, if He wasn't in the tavern at the time, i'd leave a note posted for Him on the board, then it was delivered.
Ulrich 21:01:25 CST
Aye me too Xertog. I do hope to get to pop in sometime, but my exact schedule is in the air.
Zoran 21:01:32 CST
lola slave must remember they are her for the Men
and FW is free because we allow them to be lol
telaise_{MDK} 21:01:51 CST
well bahi... noting chores are few and far between... it would probably be hard to get them put up if it were delivered..
bahi{HoK} 21:02:10 CST
bahi was handed a copy of words of truth by Marcus of Ar.. told read it.. understand it.. and if you still dare.. and think you can hack it.. go play there.. but don't whine after you do
Penny 21:02:17 CST
Slaves *are* beasts.
*shrugs*
They're easily traded, sold, discarded, etc.
And that is the reality of being a slave.
In the books, if a man felt that he were getting too attached to a slave, he'd usually sell her off pretty quickly.
Laroona 21:02:29 CST
Dei *raising an eyebrow* so you was expected as a FW to coddle slave... LOL
I am afraid said slave would be kissing the post quicker than they could blink
orli 21:02:37 CST
jasma...that would be a great r/p...slaves helping to unpack.....since slaves never actually went and got supplies.....but having the FM bring home goodies and the slaves tend to it and put it where it needed to be
Deirdre 21:03:19 CST
*chuckling at orli's post*
you betcha, babes........that's EXACTLY how I felt about it. Unfortunately the slave in question is privately owned.....but......a FM who doesn't understand the books any better than she does. So......that kind of Master isn't going to deal with His slave in a Gorean way in the first place.....*shrugging*
Laroona 21:03:33 CST
LOL Zoran nay we are Free because we know how to act LOL
Penny 21:04:42 CST
*grinning to Zoran about FW being allowed to be free*
I know in my case, I stay free because I'd be too much of a headache for anyone to collar... heheh.
orli 21:04:46 CST
aye Mistress Deirdre....that is the whole of the problem
unfortunately.....and orli will say so until she is blue in the face
Xertog 21:04:49 CST
You are free Laroona because your former Master was a fool.. LOL
jasma{LB} 21:05:04 CST
it was very good rp, orli.. ~smiling remembering~
orli 21:05:32 CST
and could be again jasma *smiles back~
Laroona 21:05:36 CST
LOL indeed Penny the poor Man would end up so frazzled if I was ever slave LOL
Laroona 21:06:10 CST
Xertog a wise fool LOL
Deirdre 21:06:21 CST
Laroona.....I was THREATENED by the Master of the slave in question for "flaming" His slave. *LMAO* Awwww......poor pitiful baby.......Nasty FW hurt her witty bitty feelings.....*rolling My eyes*
Zoran 21:06:29 CST
lol Penny your free cause
we not want to put Kyoto out of his misery LMAo
Penny 21:06:46 CST
We used to feed the sleen, beat the rugs, throw out the dishwater, wash the rep cloths...
I remember an afternoon of the dance of the dishwashing slave... heh.
There's fun and roleplay to be had where you make it.
Start something, and others will join in.
If people always complain yet never make moves toward positive action, nothing ever changes.
telaise_{MDK} 21:07:48 CST
~remembers having fun by herself in the servery trying to Master a serve while walking on her hands~
Penny 21:07:49 CST
*sticking my tongue out at Zoran*
I'll bet Kyoto would pay someone pretty high tarns to get me out of his hair... hehehe.
jasma{LB} 21:07:57 CST
~chuckling hearing Mistress Penny~
we skated on rags across the floor cleaning.. made a dance out it that too.
no one liked helping me feed the sleen.. lol
Laroona 21:08:02 CST
Dei ohh dear I have had the same... slave thinks she is above FW.... got news for slave who ever thinks that...
Owner would be forced to deal with as a Gorean man should
I am rather tired of the raging princess principle of late..
orli 21:08:14 CST
orli agrees Mistress Penny
same as an empty chatroom....others peek in and see one there
sometimes turns into a free for all *ws~
Laroona 21:09:16 CST
jasma exactly even chores can be made fun
like once a certain slave pulled a heap of pots on herself and that r/p'd out for days....
Penny 21:09:24 CST
*grinning and winking to jasma*
Of course not... that sleen was meeeeeaaan... so we'd send out brave jasma to do the dirty work... hehe.
Zoran 21:09:33 CST
lol I not d=sure if Kyoto has enough wealth Penny lol
orli 21:09:51 CST
so it's possible.....just need to use a lil imagination
jasma{LB} 21:10:17 CST
~showing muscles~.. lmao
jasma{LB} 21:10:56 CST
i remember that too Mistress Laroona.. for days i was afraid to pull anything out of the cabinets.. lol
Laroona 21:11:39 CST
jasma it scared the beeejebers out of the slaves LOL
Zoran 21:11:39 CST
I know lara has falling the fountain in the Piazza things like that
slave fighting over a peace of meat
we need more of this
it will keep us busy less time for fighting lol
tavelia{EF} 21:11:39 CST
~giggles hearing Mistress Penny... remembering those days~
oh chores can be done fun... it is all about how the slave wishes to portray herself
telaise_{MDK} 21:11:47 CST
does GS have a sleen?? really... and animals... tela was once told since we were in the city there were not bosk to milk... 'L'
Penny 21:11:58 CST
*working through Zoran's comment and then pouting*
Heeeeeyyyy....
I'd be *tons* of fun to have in a collar... just think! I tear silks with regularity, I let the bosk out to roam the streets of Port Kar, and I eat up all the cookie dough in sight!
What man *wouldn't* enjoy that?
heh, heh....
jasma{LB} 21:12:42 CST
not sure if we still have the sleen or not.. ~trying to remember~
Zoran 21:13:15 CST
lol as I here Penny but you told me of your feet ewwwwwwwwwww
Penny 21:13:38 CST
Remember Sabre and the flying crockery?
*whimpering*
And wet silks nights, and meat toss, and rolling grapes with noses across the floor...
People just need to use their imagination.
And there could be a bosk in a small pen, having milk shipped in every day by tarn would be quite the operation.
tavelia{EF} 21:14:21 CST
~tapping her lip... pondering~
what about slaves in competition for things... not out right fighting... but... having fun... trying to get something... tave remembers a time... a Master had come in... and there were four slaves that offered to serve Him at the same time.... He gave a challenge to us... told us the first one to get the drink and back to His feet... was the one that served Him... now... well... it is just different
Penny 21:14:48 CST
Hey, FW's feet sweat in smelly slippers all day... so we all have athelete's foot, not to mention BO from all those layers of heavy robes... hehe.
*sniffing the air and shrugging as I grin*
bahi{HoK} 21:16:24 CST
does GS have vulos? live ones? or are there any in Port Kar?
telaise_{MDK} 21:16:54 CST
~laughs~
tela plucked vulos last festival
Laroona 21:16:57 CST
good question bahi... I forget LOl
a good research topic *S*
Xertog 21:16:57 CST
Seeing the time I'm calling the forum to a close.. Thank you all for coming.
Don't forget the festival is around the corner June 2 & 3. For info -> http://www.gorean-shores.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=753