Ulrich 19:39:30 pm CDT
~looking around the room~ Seeing as Rollo and Xertog won't be here tonight, I will call the forum to order.
Same rules and protocols as always. If you have a topic for discussion, whisper them to me.
HOW TO HANDLE PEOPLE ENTERING GS USING MULTIPLE NAMES?
Ulrich 19:43:45 pm CDT
Ok I have our first topic for discussion.
How should slaves and Free handle a person entering using many names (usually a FM) and demanding service as a Free even in Forum room
vina19:44:47 pm CDT
~sits up listening
zoya{GS}t 19:45:26 pm CDT
very tackfully, one would have to be creative
Bhoamar 19:46:09 pm CDT
This has been a real problem of late and not just with a male but I am also guessing a female with a potty mouth
Deirdre 19:46:09 pm CDT
I guess you'd very gingerly....and respectfully....explain the GS rules and protocol for the situation.....and address Him as Master and whatever the last name listed is. *shrugging*
aurora{Ulrich} 19:46:27 pm CDT
how does one know they use many names Master?
~or is aurora confused already *L*
rhian{GS} 19:46:30 pm CDT
*nods in agreement with Master Bhoamar*
Laroona 19:47:00 pm CDT
Captain that has been occurring during the last hand or so...
and when told there was no slaves to serve got uppity....
also when asked by Captain to use one name the evening earlier .. that seemed to be ignored, including many times being given the link to the website..
I would have suggested all put the person on ignore,,, but then he after about 2 ahns seemed to indicate wanting to learn..... and I did not want to lose a new FM
rhian{GS} 19:47:37 pm CDT
when the person jumps out of the room and comes right back. sometimes they use the same type of language and mention actions made as the other name, aurora
Kat 19:48:02 pm CDT
I would think say hello first in a polite way , be nice until One cant be nice them put them on ignore..
Deirdre 19:48:06 pm CDT
*eyes widen as I hear Bhomar's comment.......and I shake My head.....wondering why there are People like that......who delight in making chaos and causing problems*
vina 19:48:22 pm CDT
one in particular was very easy to recognize and come to the conclusion that this person was using various names...he would refer to slaves as kajira! and make a demand with an explanation point...things like that stand out to this one...so she knew it was him and she would leave the room
Bhoamar 19:48:39 pm CDT
that was what I thought initially. and this person is the same one I believe Laroona. But he is not interested it seems in other that using slaves.
rhian{GS} 19:48:44 pm CDT
girl found that the ignore has limitations. she can still be pm'd by the ignored one and they still can read all posts
Ulrich 19:49:33 pm CDT
There is a bit of a line to walk there.
If it's truly just some idiot looking for an easy way to get his rocks off that's one thing. If it's a mis-guided soul with a willingness to step back and learn to do things the right way, that's another.
vina{GS} 19:49:41 pm CDT
~giggles to herself because she ..well never mind
Kat 19:50:24 pm CDT
I realized that as well rhian..
Bhoamar 19:50:55 pm CDT
agreed Ulrich. all consideration should be given initially. To include ignoring slights that would otherwise end badly.
Deirdre 19:51:39 pm CDT
*hearing Captain Ulrich's comment and nodding*
The problem comes in trying to decided which of those categories the Person fits into.
aurora{Ulrich} 19:51:50 pm CDT
Master Xertog has shown slaves how to use the *view source*
and copy the ip #, repeated visitors that harass or ignore
rules...and send it to Him
Laroona 19:52:10 pm CDT
LOL I think he used at least 8 names
if slave was in room
a serve was demanded NO entry post no greeting just serve kanjra...
Bhoamar 19:52:57 pm CDT
it usually takes a little time Dierdre. if the person keeps up with the same inane ramblings then it becomes obvious they are not there to learn.
rhian{GS} 19:53:04 pm CDT
he showed disrespect to a Pledge Free and didn't follow combat rules at all
Ulrich 19:53:13 pm CDT
One specific incident I've been made aware of occurred in the forum. The girl's instincts were correct.
When asked to serve, she offered to serve him in the Tavern. Room rules prohibit service in the forum. If a girl has time, then this is an appropriate response.
HOWEVER, if someone is in the Forum, it is assumed this is because their rt time is limited, so I would have no problem with a girl politely explaining that there is no service in the forum and excusing herself.
Deirdre 19:53:59 pm CDT
*nodding to Bhomar*
Absolutely. It becomes pretty obvious then.
Laroona 19:54:27 pm CDT
I challenged him over some names after Xertog had previously told him he could not capture slaves, enter kennels after slaves ran from the many names
odd thing is he never denied using those names....
aurora you are correct and that is why I knew who and where he was
rhian{GS} 19:54:52 pm CDT
it leaves a slave in a precarious situation. she does not wish to be disrespectful, but...
Deirdre 19:55:49 pm CDT
*listening to all of the descriptions from so many sources*
Seems to Me that it was just an HNG......trying to deliberately cause disruption.
aurora{Ulrich} 19:56:30 pm CDT
aurora would say that it is not her place to determine if One uses multiple names ~but to be pleasing, if able - offer to serve in the Tavern, or explain why she cannot do so...to offer links to information sites
to copy and paste threatening posts that are against rules
to her owner, but to remember her place as a slave
Laroona 19:56:39 pm CDT
glad I spell check later LOL
adding I offered when a slave was free to serve it would be done in the Piazza in front of a Pledged Patron.... as I did not trust him
Ulrich 19:56:52 pm CDT
As aurora said, if you suspect someone is using multiple names, then go to View -> Page Source and you will find the ip address next to the poster's name if they are not a member.
Send a copy of the incident and the ip and any and all names used to the Council. We will address it.
As everyone knows, dualling or trippling or octaling is not allowed in GS. One typist one name.
aurora{Ulrich} 19:57:36 pm CDT
it is not a slaves place tho Mistress
to determine what You did ...Master Xertog has stressed that to girls
in classes
rhian{GS} 19:57:46 pm CDT
when in doubt, rhian c&p's the incident to send to the first girl for review
Laroona 19:58:28 pm CDT
The odd thing is he returned the next evening and used the name he agreed to use the night before.. so maybe he did learn something after I tried for 2 ahns... LOL
Ulrich 19:59:41 pm CDT
rhian of course not. A slave should always remember her place.
But I, nor none of my brothers on the Council have ANY patience for such behavior.
you are a Gorean slave to GOREAN men. Real Gorean men have a thing called honor, and not complying with site rules, and behaving in this way shows no honor.
Laroona 20:00:13 pm CDT
aurora you are correct
slaves must try and act and demonstrate GS girls are willing to serve
a pledged free IMO should protect all slaves of GS..
rhian{GS} 20:00:18 pm CDT
*nodding her understanding* yes, Master
Bhoamar 20:00:42 pm CDT
aye Ulrich. and he had no sense either it seemed.
Laroona 20:01:48 pm CDT
I did send a summary to Council
also a Pledged FM entered and asked he behave and respect GS rules....
that I think was when it finally got through that those present were not tolerating any more nonsense...
aurora{Ulrich} 20:02:04 pm CDT
one day a Master from another site came in
tried desperately to get aurora, her chain and another to visit His home, to train slaves there
~we in turn turned it around respectfully
and tried to get Him to come to our home with His slaves
~He never returned *L*
Ulrich 20:02:46 pm CDT
~grinning to Bhoamar~ Well I suspect you or I could knock a little sense into him should he behave like that in front of us. ~chuckling~
Deirdre 20:03:17 pm CDT
*chuckling at the Captain's comment*
Bhoamar 20:03:31 pm CDT
*LOL* there is a scroll of the fight floating about somewhere. he was not smart enough to leave
vina{GS} 20:03:34 pm CDT
~lol very nicely done aurora
Kat 20:03:39 pm CDT
~smiles
Laroona 20:03:56 pm CDT
and this guy also had some knowledge of gor so he would have understood honour
I also think slaves should offer in another room if they have time
if they are in service... how do they answer?
when one jumps in demanding service
Bhoamar 20:04:06 pm CDT
aye aurura. that was a great way to handle it.
rhian{GS} 20:04:22 pm CDT
*laughs* it was well worth watching, too, Master Bhoamar
Bhoamar 20:05:21 pm CDT
well that is the way of a Gorean Master. I demand and the slave jumps. The difference is that the demands are inappropriate and poorly timed.
Ulrich 20:05:53 pm CDT
And that situation was handled perfectly aurora *s*
aurora{Ulrich} 20:05:59 pm CDT
a slave in service must beg to greet or address another Free at all times, hopefully the Free she serves would address the One entering and demanding service
Laroona 20:06:48 pm CDT
Bhoamar I agree a slave should jump LOL
but say you enter and demand service are you knowing she is in service what would you expect her to say or do?
vina{GS} 20:06:51 pm CDT
agrees with Master Bhoamar..it makes it difficult for the slave because she doesn't want to be displeasing but..have you ever seen the second movie to Santa Claus with Tim Allen? you know the clone that was made from wood of Him? and how he talked, always yelling? well that is what this guy was like...creeped this slave out...
rhian{GS} 20:07:08 pm CDT
how does a slave respond to a Master who is interested in purchasing her when she is a GS slave, Master Ulrich?
Bhoamar 20:07:37 pm CDT
I think the key is in the understanding on the part of the person in question. if they don't get it then they should be ignored if that is the choice of the slave, FW, FM
Bhoamar 20:08:29 pm CDT
only an HNG would come in demanding. That is dangerous by any standard
Ulrich 20:08:30 pm CDT
If they are in service, they are focused on the Free they are serving.
Perhaps the Free being served could say something to let the person know they have to wait their turn.
Or if the one being served is feeling generous, they could suggest the slave take care of what they need as well.
Kat 20:08:58 pm CDT
I agree
Laroona 20:09:06 pm CDT
vina is correct
they guy kept yelling
"serve kajria!" "paga kajira!" "kajira!"
this I saw more than once....
Ulrich 20:09:46 pm CDT
rhian then the girl would have to tell him that he would need to contact her owners to discuss such a matter.
aurora{Ulrich} 20:09:46 pm CDT
~beaming smile up at her Master as she listens to Him~
aurora{Ulrich} 20:10:13 pm CDT
a slave cannot ignore tho
Master Bhoamar
to do so would reflect very badly on her Owners or Master
Laroona 20:10:20 pm CDT
often many HNG's have made good Free when they understand GS ways.... *S*
vina{GS} 20:10:53 pm CDT
~smiles to Mistress Laroona
rhian{GS} 20:11:04 pm CDT
so in the case of a GS slave, it would be the council, right?
Ulrich 20:11:24 pm CDT
Right Bhoamar. We have enough sense to survey the room, if all the slaves are in service, we take a seat and converse with the other Free in the room until one is released.
Ulrich 20:12:49 pm CDT
Yes rhian. They will have to contact the Council.
Sometimes the girl might be asked to deliver a scroll to the Council for the Free that is interested, but it is preferred that the Free contact the Council directly.
rhian{GS} 20:13:07 pm CDT
rhian has only used ignore if a Pledge Free Man or One of the Council has told her to.
Laroona 20:13:30 pm CDT
if a slave is in service I would consider it would and should be up to the Free she is serving to inform the person yelling
that the girl is serving right now and please wait
rhian{GS} 20:13:50 pm CDT
*nods* girl was wondering about that. thank You, Master
Ulrich 20:16:03 pm CDT
Assuming a slave is in the presence of a pledged Free, the pledged should do their best to diffuse the situation, and direct the girl on how to respond.
If the girl is told by the Free to place the HNG on ignore, she is not disrespecting her owner.
If no Free are present, she should always show proper respect as demanded of the Gorean ways, but she should also respectfully extracate herself from the situation and report the incident to her owner or the Council.
For Tavern girls, an email to the fg, sg, or the Council would be appropriate in this situation.
GENERAL CHAT & UN-COLLARED SLAVES IN TAVERN TIMES
Ulrich 20:19:26 pm CDT
rti brb
rhian{GS} 20:21:02 pm CDT
does that mean it's intermission? *laughs*
{Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:21:02 pm CDT
hehe ~buzzzzzzzzzzzz..
{Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:21:39 pm CDT
opps..
*sweeps that up quick and drops it in chains lap*
aurora{Ulrich} 20:21:47 pm CDT
an urt buzzing chain?
~*ducks*~
jessenia 20:21:51 pm CDT
if it's a break.... jesse will take the chance to outwardly say..
greetings everyone... *S*
Laroona 20:22:04 pm CDT
heee I flex my fingers LOL
rhian{GS} 20:22:10 pm CDT
or maybe half time show? *looks for the cheerleaders*
aurora{Ulrich} 20:22:14 pm CDT
*barely contains her laughter*
Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:22:56 pm CDT
~laughing.. ~
no electricity in these parts heart string.. *winks*
~blows jesse a bucket of kisses.. ~
Kat 20:22:59 pm CDT
~softly laffs
rhian{GS} 20:23:05 pm CDT
*with a confused look* rhian thought urts squeaked not buzzed
aurora{Ulrich} 20:23:09 pm CDT
greetings jesse ~blows a kiss~
aurora{Ulrich} 20:23:22 pm CDT
shhhhhh rhian!!
jessenia 20:24:03 pm CDT
*laughs at the bucket and sends a bushel back... then blows a spare to aurora*
{Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:24:37 pm CDT
all the urts shadow ever knew buzzed *nod nod*
*pinches chain*
Laroona 20:24:58 pm CDT
and it is not hem hanging time girls either LOL
{Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:25:48 pm CDT
peck...
oh my shadow's mind is trying so hard not to go left..
Kat 20:25:50 pm CDT
~lafen harder
rhian{GS} 20:26:23 pm CDT
*with a wink* you can send some of those buzzing urts girls way.
aurora{Ulrich} 20:26:40 pm CDT
lmao
Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:27:07 pm CDT
jesse you sexy girl..
*hugs and hugs*
shadow has missed you!
and girl knows Master's been saving something for you.. ~laughs winking~
rhian{GS} 20:27:12 pm CDT
*looking at Mistress Laroona's skirts giggling* was that an invitation, Mistress?
vina{GS} 20:27:27 pm CDT
~totally clueless right now...
jessenia 20:27:49 pm CDT
is it a piece of candy shadow?? *grins*
Laroona 20:27:51 pm CDT
not from me rhian LOL
{Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:28:11 pm CDT
aurora's is much bigger than shadow's rhian..
but doubt she will share, won't with chain anyway.. *rolls eyes*
Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:28:43 pm CDT
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr nope, jesse.. hehe
Ulrich 20:29:09 pm CDT
I'm back sorry about that
aurora{Ulrich} 20:29:13 pm CDT
laughing ~ pinches her chain hard
Kat 20:29:36 pm CDT
~smiles
rhian{GS} 20:29:37 pm CDT
welcome back, Master Ulrich *smiles innocently*
Laroona 20:29:43 pm CDT
now the Captain is back maybe sanity will return LOL
Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:30:12 pm CDT
*gives Master her sweetest innocent smile*
welcome back Master.. ~snuggling His leg~
jessenia 20:30:20 pm CDT
welcome back Master.. *S*
rhian{GS} 20:30:43 pm CDT
*looking around at her sisters* not likely, Mistress. have You seen the bunch of slaves about? *laughs*
vina{GS} 20:30:48 pm CDT
welcome back Master Ulrich
aurora{Ulrich} 20:30:52 pm CDT
*drawing to a straight kneel at His feet
an innocent smile kissing her lips*
Ulrich 20:30:59 pm CDT
Well it seems I didn't miss anything lol
Does that mean we've beat that bosk to death?
Ulrich 20:31:45 pm CDT
Laroona you're looking to ME for sanity? We're in trouble now lol
Laroona 20:31:57 pm CDT
well and truly Captain
maybe it can be put n the spit LOL
jessenia 20:32:45 pm CDT
Master Ulrich... are barenecks allowed in the Tavern on Forum days like FW are??
Laroona 20:32:46 pm CDT
Captain umm no .... the slaves may errr ummmm LOL
Ulrich 20:32:57 pm CDT
~looking to jesse~ I have a special shiny steel piece of candy waiting for you. All you have to do is beg a little bit. ~grin~
{Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:33:35 pm CDT
~soft laugh.. ~
told ya jess..
jessenia 20:33:36 pm CDT
but jesse's on a diet Master... *grins*
Ulrich 20:35:05 pm CDT
jesse free necks are always welcome in the tavern. Now the question is.. will they leave as a free neck lol
As I recall, the rules don't address that, so I would say that you would not necessarily be safe except during happy ahn.
rhian{GS} 20:35:16 pm CDT
*looking at shadow and aurora curiously* how do you get That to shine? *grins*
Laroona 20:35:23 pm CDT
hey slow down on the posts please LOl
heee jessenia you could but umm I think you may end up in shiny steel I know I would offer LOL LOL
Ulrich 20:35:51 pm CDT
Well jesse, all good diets come to an end eventually. It will keep. It has lots of preservatives
jessenia 20:36:08 pm CDT
thank You for clarifying that Master.. a girl would hate to goof up... *winks*
{Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:36:34 pm CDT
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh shucks.. *snaps fingers*
girl was hoping You stopped at yes to jesse Master.. *winks*
Kat 20:36:51 pm CDT
~lafen
{Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:37:23 pm CDT
ummm what is girl shinning rhian?
aurora{Ulrich} 20:37:47 pm CDT
rhian!!...shhhhhhhhhhh
jessenia 20:37:51 pm CDT
Mistress... didnt i hear FW had no legs or something??? jesse could outrun You.... LOL
aurora{Ulrich} 20:38:07 pm CDT
*clamps her hand over rhians mouth hard*
{Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:38:26 pm CDT
not sure thats actually calling goofin up, jess..
a girl recalls only true freedom can be found in a collar
and girl knows how you love your freedom! Hehe
Ulrich 20:38:36 pm CDT
OK I'm assuming everyone knows how to deal with the HNG now?
Does anyone have anything else they wish to discuss?’
Laroona 20:39:11 pm CDT
jessenia now that is a figment of slaves imagination
one you all may find out one day if they do or do not LOL
jessenia 20:39:43 pm CDT
jesse knows shadow... but.. you know.. *smiles softly*
bijou 20:39:44 pm CDT
this girl heard that FW have hairy legs...she read that
aurora{Ulrich} 20:40:04 pm CDT
bursts out laughing
jessenia 20:40:07 pm CDT
*laughs* Yes Mistress
vina{GS} 20:40:07 pm CDT
~peeks back in
Kat 20:40:17 pm CDT
~lafen hard almost fallen over
Laroona 20:41:29 pm CDT
heee and we plait them every hand LOL
rhian{GS} 20:41:38 pm CDT
yes, they are called hairy biting urts. you don't wanna get close to a Free Woman's legs. *grins teasingly*
vina{GS} 20:41:56 pm CDT
LOL
Laroona 20:43:08 pm CDT
rhian is that why you are a hem hanger ...
trying to find out exactly how long our legs are and if they are really hairy?
Laughing so hard LOL
Kat 20:43:37 pm CDT
ooooooooooooo to much lafen~
rhian{GS} 20:43:41 pm CDT
yes, Mistress. girl likes furry things *giggles*
Laroona 20:44:54 pm CDT
rhian maybe one day your luck may change and you will see LOL LOL
and that day is a long way off LOL
Ulrich 20:45:36 pm CDT
It seems we have digressed, and it's close to time to end anyway. I'll call the forum to a close. I'm sure the scribes aren't still taking notes anyway.
vina{GS} 20:45:00 pm CDT
lol rhian
rhian{GS} 20:45:40 pm CDT
*sighs* girl can still dream, tho
Laroona 20:46:04 pm CDT
oops
and yes the scribe is taking notes LOL LOl
aurora{Ulrich} 20:46:06 pm CDT
giggles
the scribing stops now right Mistress?
{Ulrich's}shadow GS~sg 20:46:17 pm CDT
oh boy can they ever..
~fans herself.. ~
Laroona 20:48:51 pm CDT
thank you Captain Ulrich *S*
rhian{GS} 20:49:58 pm CDT
yes. thank You, Master Ulrich, for running the Forum