Rollo_the_Ax 19:14:24 CST
Okay folks..... as we are getting a slight late start here, I will jump right in and get the ball rolling..... * Welcome to all for attending this weeks GS forum... same rules as always.... now that we are starting, NO open greetings..just greet in whispers... also any * cross talk * that means ANYTHING that does NOT relate to the discussion should also be in whispers..... Okay ???? then lets begin.....
WHITE SILK SLAVES – SERVING & LEARNING
Rollo_the_Ax 19:18:52 CST
okay... for a change I already have 2 topics that ppl wish discussed... the first will work out well as my brother Paedur the Slave Master is here and can help answer part of it.... the question is ** are there rules or guidelines that instruct white silk slaves to be in the Piazza instead of the Tavern as they are NOT trained to serve yet.... so for the most part, they SHOULD be in the Piazza or kennels ???? *
clio_GS_ 19:20:59 CST
Master Rollo, if white silk slaves are not allowed in the tavern then we would be going againts Master Paedurs orders to serve
Laroona 19:21:03 CST
*listening to the topic*
amira_GS_ 19:21:29 CST
~eyes close~..... sits back and listens carefully
topaz{Rast's_girl} 19:23:14 CST
*speaks softly*
the manual says white silks are supposed to be in the Tavern yes, in order to learn and watch other slaves serving Masters
if no Free are in the Tavern then they can be in either room
Rollo_the_Ax 19:23:30 CST
No, clio.... READ my post.... I said * for the most part *..... if ANY slave is told to be in ANY room, she had better be DAMNED sure that she IS... but white silk girls should NOT just be sitting on their asses IN the Tavern..... they will learn MORE from serving FM and FW IN the Piazza.......
lara{Zor} 19:23:52 CST
this one thought that in whites you were to go in and observe and learn so you can serve and move up in silks
Paedur-Slavemaster 19:24:04 CST
Rollo, white silks can be in any room that slaves are permitted to be in.
This idea that white silks can not be in the Tavern has been discussed and put aside a number of times.
WHite silks need to be in the Tavern to observe fully sensual serves.
What they can NOT do is serve with any sexual heat as they are in white silks and need to learn to serve properly before they learn to serve sexually
clio_GS_ 19:24:09 CST
yes Master
galah{RA} 19:24:36 CST
was discussed at slave class that white silks was to be in the piazza to learn unless there was NO free in the Piazza, then they could go to the tavern to see how serves are done there
Dakota 19:24:59 CST
This is not meant to be hurtful...just true...I have had several terrible serves recently...from untrained whites in the Tavern.....
mischief~ 19:25:25 CST
mischief never heard that white silks were to STAY in the Piazza...thinks that sorta defeats the purpose of watching and learning for the most part...
galah{RA} 19:27:21 CST
mm, how are white silks in the tavern gonna learn and watch if they are in there alone? while free are in the piazza?
Laroona 19:27:25 CST
*hearing Captain Rollo speak*
I have had issues with white silks sitting on their arses and not entering when there is NO free in the Tavern and 3 Free and 1 slave in the Piazza...
slaves learn more if the serve over and over... it is how they get better and more confident...
If the ratio is equal then I am happy to remain in the Piazza... BUT as long as NO slave sits on her arse in the Tavern...
that is how I view things...
jasma{LB} 19:28:22 CST
~listening~
clio_GS_ 19:28:52 CST
low blow galah, we were fully punished for not serving in the piazza
sefa{GS} 19:30:10 CST
walking in queitly...
making her way to Master Paedurs feet...kneeling hands on thighs...palms down ...head up eyes down
Laroona 19:30:15 CST
heck Dakota some cannot even get the basics correct
I am being brutally honest
and frankly I tire of slaves doing as they please and ignore instructions of their trainers and Free, who are trying to help them along their journey
Paedur-Slavemaster 19:30:21 CST
The rules and teaching are such that the slaves are supposed to be watchful for either Free in the Piazza or the Tavern, and that NONE are to be left without some service or offer of service.
Be it the Tavern or the Piazza, either one.
So pay attention and make sure, CERTAIN, of it that the Free are served and tended to period.
no excuses no by passes, no bull shit.
clio_GS_ 19:30:25 CST
galah, obviously has never been white silk
Dakota 19:30:38 CST
nods to the Lady
jasma{LB} 19:30:45 CST
~head turning towards clio.. then back again.. listening~
~mischief~ 19:30:50 CST
~wonders what happened to her post~ watches it disappear....
~mischief~ 19:28:51 CST
galah, did i EVER say that they should sit in the tavern ALONE while Free go unserved in the Piazza? you and i already had this discussion yesterday and i spoke to you THEN exactly what i thought about a girl not serving when needed in the Piazza. you know that.
galah{RA} 19:31:31 CST
cleo, the argument was that white silks should be in the tavern to watch and learn, and i only wanted to make a point that is not happening...had nuthing to do with low blows
Rollo_the_Ax 19:31:47 CST
I think that if it is necessary to make a HARD, FAST, set rule about this issue, then the Council will have to vote on it... for I also see little use to having white silks avoid serving ANY free .... I accept that they need to watch to learn... but they can learn from watch FW just as well as FM...until they start to serve sexually.... THEN it requires a * man's touch *...
~mischief~ 19:32:00 CST
clio ~looking to her~ watch your mouth! this is a forum, not an attack venu...
Paedur-Slavemaster 19:32:13 CST
clio... looks to the girl.
you will either curb your tongue and your attitude or I shall do it personally.
Am I clear girl.
or do I need to remove any doubt that I will deal with this now.
you are here to speak your opinion respectfully.
so do so
{Ruilans_ariel} 19:32:21 CST
thank you m's.
Rollo_the_Ax 19:32:32 CST
clio.....come HERE, right NOW.......
amira_GS_ 19:32:48 CST
if a girl may~
she was taught that she was to watch ALL rooms. as a white silk.
she has made the mistake of ASSUMING that since there was a girl in the Piazza she was not needed.
she was corrected.. Immediately and Quite Sternly about watching the Piazza.
but she also believes that this is true to any silk. not just white
tassa{HoK}~Penny~ 19:32:56 CST
really sees no need for clio to make such remarks..ALL slaves start out as white silk...
with the recent postings of the Slave Master, and the discussions in slave class, leaving a Free to sit without service should NOT be an issue...though, it still seems to be for some reason
galah{RA} 19:33:33 CST
yes clio, i did serve my time many years ago as a white silk, just as every girl must, but what has that got to do with anything?
clio_GS_ 19:33:44 CST
forgive clio, she's irritated and doesnt mean to be hateful
Laroona 19:34:01 CST
Captains with respect I believe you all know I am one who is always willing to help new slaves and also Free, and I know the ones who yearn to learn and others well just........
clio_GS_ 19:34:16 CST 69.132.2.252
yes Master Paedur
Deirdre 19:34:29 CST
*cutting My emerald eyes at clio......happy that the Captains......and some of the slaves.....have put her in her place.......knowing that I will certainly remember her behavior*
Rollo_the_Ax 19:34:47 CST
I said HERE !!!!! NOW !!!!! clio........
clio_GS_ 19:34:53 CST
yes Master rollo, a girl comes to a kneel before her Master
lara{Zor} 19:35:30 CST
dont know, maybe lara has been around too many years..but when she first started out as white she served or would beg to serve all the time, just not sexually...didnt matter if there were othere girls servin, she still begged to be allowed to serve..
jasma{LB} 19:36:02 CST
~hearing the tone of Master Rollo's voice and trembling from it~
clio_GS_ 19:36:29 CST
* shivers she knows she is wrong*
Rollo_the_Ax 19:37:06 CST
LOL...LOL.. Not ONLY do you disrupt the forum by NOT posting respectfully, but NOW you choose to NOT cap MY NAME ?????? ** reaching down I grab the girl by the hair and left her up to look into My eyes...**
~mischief~ 19:37:06 CST
~curls up a bit as she listens~
sefa{GS} 19:37:15 CST
~kneeling at Master Pauders feet listening and trembling~
amira_GS_ 19:37:36 CST
~scoots closer to m's~
clio_GS_ 19:38:05 CST 69.132.2.252
feels her hair being pulled and lifted to her feet by it< shakes uncontrollably
Paedur-Slavemaster 19:38:14 CST
reaching down to grab sefa's hair and lift her eyes to see what Rollo has in mind.
watch and learn girl for you are in just as much trouble with Me as clio is at this moment with Rollo.
holding the girl tight and hard.
{Ruilans_ariel} 19:38:17 CST
*slips out, tired* goodnight all.
~mischief~ 19:38:22 CST
~whispers~ watch closely, for this is also a lesson as to what happens when a girl displeases a Master...
lara{Zor} 19:38:27 CST
hides behind her sisters...ecks..keeps her mouth shut tight
galah{RA} 19:38:35 CST
yes lara, as it should of been, a girl must serve to learn, she can't learn by watching, she must do....and to do, a white silk has to go to the place that has free persons, regardless....and as the tavern is now considered the hard core place, the white silks are going to be seen as not pleasing as Master Dakota already stated
clio_GS_ 19:38:39 CST
loooking in Master Rollos eyes
amira_GS_ 19:38:53 CST
eyes open, dark~ scared~. and watches knowing~
sefa{GS} 19:39:11 CST
yes Master Paedur
clio_GS_ 19:39:50 CST
fear sets in hard
Paedur-Slavemaster 19:40:32 CST
Free should know that white silks are learning and so are given a bit of latitude galah.
and if they do not, then that will be My responsibility to deal with
Rollo_the_Ax 19:40:45 CST
** It is ONLY the will of my Brother Paedur that had saved your LIFE at THIS moment, clio..... for my FIRST impulse was to to take your HEAD, skin the flesh from it, and wear it as decoration on my helmet ..... ** THROWING her to the floor..... CRAWL to Paedur, and BEG him, IN WHISPERS, for the worst punishment he can decide on for you.....and eamil it to ME later.. and BTW, this is the ONLY * get out of jail FREE card you will EVER get from Rollo .....*
Laroona 19:41:35 CST
Captain Paedur and how much altittude is how much?
*watching Captain Rollo*
lara{Zor} 19:41:58 CST
galah, your the one that taught this brat..yes the serves are not no were near pleasin..but they have to learn, and this liked when a Master told her what she was doin wrong...hits home hard and sticks with ya so you learn and earn the silks ...
Rollo_the_Ax 19:42:11 CST
then looking to sefa..... * and if I EVER hear that you have refused an order from your trainer, or a free again, I will also take YOUR head, slave....... *
clio_GS_ 19:42:13 CST 69.132.2.252
yes Master Rollo, she crashes to the floor, whimpering
sefa{GS} 19:42:44 CST
yes Master Rollo
~mischief~ 19:42:47 CST
~hears Master Rollo looks hard to sefa~
jasma{LB} 19:42:59 CST
~shivers moving up her spine as she hears His words~
Laroona 19:43:41 CST
alters altittude to latitude
Paedur-Slavemaster 19:43:58 CST
Laroona, ultimately THAT is fully up to the Free how much they give and do not give.
I am at this very moment at the point where there is absolutely NO latitude to be given.
waits for clio to move here as sefa and clio will share their punishments.
for their attitudes, their denials, their laziness.
I have said a number of occasions about serving and where to be and what to step quickly too.
as I have been VERY vocal over respect, regardless of what ever back ground issues may lie
Dakota 19:44:03 CST
just so it is clear...I whispered instructions and corrections during both serves......
lara{Zor} 19:44:04 CST
runs over to hide behind her Master...happy tis not her in troubles...
Zoran 19:44:45 CST
looks to lara and point to his feet
Rollo_the_Ax 19:45:09 CST
Looking back to all here once again..... * Sorry folks... I guess shit just happens .... and usually at the worst times.....LOL... it seems that the * Wookie * got pissed and slipped his chain..... I will try to keep it under control..... but know this ALL... I meant EVERY word I spoke, so do NOT forget them.......
jasma{LB} 19:45:18 CST
~looking towards Master Dakota.. listening to Him~..
topaz{Rast's_girl} 19:45:32 CST
posts this for Master Paedur as requested::
Date Posted: 03/22/2005
Seeing how We are having an influx of new slaves and patrons, a question has arisen concerning white silks.
This is parphrasing from the existing slave manual.
white silks for their first two days after receiving their brands are to observe only.
Once they are healed, they are to observe and serve under the watchful eye of a trainer, the fg/sg, Slavemaster, or Captain.
they are NOT permitted to lap or furr or be sexually handled in any manner.
they are NOT permitted to travel.
they are to serve and learn and know their slave hearts and belly.
it is only while the two day period after their branding they are unable to serve, other than that, thay are EXPECTED to serve and be there, in the Tavern, learning, watching and serving.
White silks when not serving a master in the tavern are expected to go to the Piazza and serve Anyone there.
white silks are also permitted to serve in the Piazza, again under the watchful eyes of those spoken of above and with the same restrictions as stated.
PLease make note of this and these are the rules as currently stated in the slave manual and approved by the Council.
If anything changes, an announcement will be made at that time once Council approves any changes.
If you feel the need to get the actual wording please check the slave manual.
Paedur
Advisor and Slavemaster
lara{Zor} 19:45:49 CST
moves around to His feet, then lookin at Master Rollo...listen to His words..
Paedur-Slavemaster 19:45:55 CST
mischief, do you wish to join them in My punishment?
either watch your attitude or you shall.
Understood girl?
~mischief~ 19:46:37 CST
aye Master Paedur
Laroona 19:46:45 CST
Captain Paedur
as I said earlier I have given all and I am now at point of I would rather punish than put up with crap any further... and that is against my very own personal beliefs of teaching and a human being
Paedur-Slavemaster 19:49:29 CST
reaching into My pouch to remove a short chain attaching it to clio's kolar and then sefa's kolar.
Pardon Me.
taking the chain and removing the girls from forum for a moment.
Laroona 19:50:12 CST
reads what topaz posted and comments
that is a tad difficult when there is none of those present at any given time
Rollo_the_Ax 19:50:27 CST
Putting back on my * human * face.....LOL.. So where are we in the white silk issue ??? does it require Council vote to make specific etched in granite rules ??? Because we CAN do that..... it seems that the times of * assuming * that kajira will do the RIGHT thing due to their submission are gone the way of the dodo.... So if RULES are needed, then by the Gods, RULES will be hashed out and posted.... and whoa be unto the slave that fails to follow them TO THE LETTER !!!!
Paedur-Slavemaster 19:51:35 CST
NO there is no need ROllo.
These slaves are smart enough to read and comprehend and I be damned to waste more of Councils time on such trivial matters which have been dealt with a number of times over.
It is there and written and will be followed Period
amira_GS_ 19:51:46 CST
~listens. carefully and cautiously~
Zoran 19:51:47 CST
leans back and listen as I have been away a while
lara{Zor} 19:52:36 CST
hears Master Rollo...not wantin it to be that hard...its not hard to serve and be respectful...if this is not in the mood to behave she moves on till she is...
Deirdre 19:52:44 CST
*listening with pride at the comments between the Captains.....*
Paedur-Slavemaster 19:53:51 CST
Rises, My left hand resting on the hilt of My blade and retires to deal with the insolence of these two.
Growls as I go.
Rollo_the_Ax 19:55:46 CST
As always, what was THEN, is not always what is NOW, topaz...yes that must be a posting from back in march..... but I know that the issue was spoken of in slave class and that the idea changed .... but in any case.." White silks when not serving a master in the tavern are expected to go to the Piazza and serve Anyone there." the main point in this topic is that white silk girls sit IN the Tavern and do NOT serve in the Piazza...
Laroona 19:57:52 CST
what I have observed is that both rooms have FM and FW, at various times and most of us are willing to help
but there comes a point when we cannot train the untrainable...
jade{Dk} 19:59:30 CST
softly gasping as she reads back... then shakes her head
*softly whispering*
"someone pissed off the Wookie again"
lol
Ramses 20:00:51 CST
Tal Nicholas,
moving quietly to sit and watch
topaz{Rast's_girl} 20:02:00 CST
aye Master Rollo, topaz knows that! as she taught the girls that as well!
Master Paedur just asked for topaz to get the council ruling and post it for Him so she did
Rollo_the_Ax 20:02:01 CST
Okay.....it seems that this topic has run its course... the council will decide if specific rules need made and enforced... so on to our next topic.....
~mischief~ 20:03:17 CST
~mischief listens quietly~
Laroona 20:03:53 CST
Captain Rollo with respect
can we have the NO Greeting rule enforced please
the C&P is well over 25 pages per forum prior to editing
Rollo_the_Ax 20:09:15 CST
PLEASE folks..... Keep the greetings and cross talk to WHISPERS !!!!!!..... the * Wookie * is still close enough to make another appearance.....LOL...LOL.. come on folks... TRY and do it right...okay ???
SEXUAL RELEASE
Rollo_the_Ax 20:04:46 CST
Okay.... this next topic may well * embarrass * those FW present, but it was asked, so deserves to be answered, so in advance, my apology to the FW here if it offends you.....
Zoran 20:04:50 CST
lol it seem that part never changes of the forum's Rollo
Rollo_the_Ax 20:06:23 CST
The topic is * when sexually using a slave, is it * Gorean * to NOT allow her to * release * at will but wait until permitted ???
Zoran 20:07:11 CST
grins and sit back
~mischief~ 20:07:41 CST
m's think it is...
~mischief~ 20:08:09 CST
m's has always begging for permission to release..
topaz{Rast's_girl} 20:08:45 CST
*nods*..aye topaz was taught she was never allowed to release unless given permission!!
nassy{Sg} 20:08:56 CST
nassy begs release...she has been taught she has too
lara{Zor} 20:09:11 CST
this one beggs to release knowin she can only handle so much of a good Master...
Dakota 20:09:19 CST
It's a matter of control...I require jade to beg permission...but wether that makes it "Gorean".....shrugs
caitlin_{Xg-L}t 20:09:21 CST
would think that is up to each Master and their desire at the time
Laroona 20:09:41 CST
*clearing my throat*
I understood slaves BEG for everything
alyena{GS} 20:10:13 CST
no one told aly of having to beg.. embarrassed herself right good fashion with thankfully a very forgiving Master...
20:10:14 CST
girls should ask permisson for everything
Zoran 20:10:15 CST
think that is up to the Master
and there mood
Ramses 20:10:25 CST
*watches and grins*
galah{RA} 20:11:08 CST
does this stem from bdsm though, or are there quotes from the books saying that a slave begs release?
Rollo_the_Ax 20:11:34 CST
The issue is if it is truly Gorean due to the fact that no * quote * has been seen to back it up.... LOL..but I am sure that if there is one out there, some kajira here now will find it and show us all....LOL..
topaz{Rast's_girl} 20:11:51 CST
*chuckles as she hears Mistress Laroona and nods*
~mischief~ 20:12:16 CST
~thinking~ mmmm girls pretty sure there are some quotes were a girl begged for release but not sure if it was "required" of her. Often it said things like a Master brought her to her slave orgasm and such...
Jaegers_kath 20:13:35 CST
If kath were to "take" an orgasm from a Master, it would not be right...it is His to give, but a girl can beg when the need grows strong ~smiles~
Rollo_the_Ax 20:13:56 CST
to have to beg to * release * is like having her need to beg to take EACH breath.... or every heart beat..... It may well be just another * carry over * from the old BDSM beginnings of Gor.... but is it REASONABLE ?????
topaz{Rast's_girl} 20:13:59 CST
many things are done in online Gor that were not in the books....*smiles*
Zoran 20:14:08 CST
like said earlier a slave should ask for her very breath
I think it is a cut and dry question
~mischief~ 20:15:17 CST
"So you would choose to be a slave?" he asked.
"Yes, Master," I said.
"Slut," he said.
"Yes,Master," I said.
"It is I who will decide," he said.
"Yes,Master," I said.
"I decide----" he said.
"Yes, Master," I begged.
"----that you are my slave."
"Yes,Master!" I cried.
Then I writhed in his arms as he took me, exploding in the deepest and most profound ecstasies a female can know, those of the slave orgasm, known only to the owned woman.
"How could I love you so much," he asked, "if I did not truly own you, if you were not fully mine?" "I do not know, Master," I said. Clitus Vitellius had confessed his love for a slave. I hoped he would not now beat me.
~Slave Girl of Gor...page 442-443~
Laroona 20:15:18 CST
LOL what is reasonable and acceptable to one may not be reasonable or acceptable to another
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nassy{Sg} 20:15:42 CST
for nassy not to beg for her release would end her in trouble as she is only an animal given a name by the Graciousness of her Master...anything she He gives to her...including her release
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mischief~ 20:16:08 CST
"It is said that a woman who has experienced slave orgasm can never thereafter be anything but a man's slave. She then knows what men can do to her, and what she herself is, a woman. Never thereafter can she be anything else."
From Explorers of Gor ... pg 13
Paedur-Slavemaster 20:16:13 CST
Returns to forum.
settling the knife back into its sheath, removing the last bits of hair from the blade before sliding it home.
Settles and looks to catch up.
Looking to the door for the two newest freshly shaved heads of GS
clio_GS_ 20:16:37 CST 69.132.2.252
entering the forum clio shows off Master Paedurs, hair cut, she has been shaved bald
sefa{GS} 20:16:50 CST
the girl walking back in...
her hair now shaven ...feeling her bald head has she kneels
~mischief~ 20:17:01 CST
A woman can be very beautiful simply greeting her master, head down, at the door of his chambers, She can be very beautiful in doing so small a thing as pouring his wine, eyes downcast, gracefully, as his slave. Perhaps she is a bit more beautiful, however when she kneels, helplessly before you or lies piteously at your feet supplicating you to satisfy her slave need.
Perhaps she is most beautiful when she, collared in your arms, cries out in orgasm, acknowledging you as her master.
~Tarl Cabot, Explorers of Gor; page 343~
Rollo_the_Ax 20:17:11 CST
I guess that is the point... if the ultimate end to any sexual action is orgasm, then how can it be restrained ??? Lets be honest here, folks... when it happpens....it HAPPENS !!! not really the kind of thing that can be * put on hold * for any amount of time.....
sefa{GS} 20:17:41 CST
Master Rollo may sefa whispher a moment?
clio_GS_ 20:18:09 CST
clio crawls into the forum on her hands and knees, she crawls to Master Rollo's boots
galah{RA} 20:18:25 CST
it is said that slaves must beg for everything, but slaves do lots and lots of things without permission....chores for one, a slave would take it upon herself to serve a Master larma, or take it upon herself to tie her hair up...lots of things, so is release something a slave could so control when touched by a Master?
Zoran 20:18:43 CST
looks to the bald slaves
~mischief~ 20:19:03 CST
nothing about begging in there really...
topaz{Rast's_girl} 20:19:08 CST
well, tis hard...*nods*..and near impossible at times, but control and the need to obey seems to help a girl hold back...
clio_GS_ 20:19:30 CST
Master Rollo clio begs to whisper to You?
Rollo_the_Ax 20:19:36 CST
BOTH quotes, mm, show that she DOES orgasm... but says nothing about him requiring her to wait any time to do so.... that he can BRING her to an orgasm is or should be a given... and that she will react because of it is also a given.......
tassa{HoK}~Penny~ 20:19:47 CST
touched by certain Masters, tassa can no more control herself than she can control the weather..*shrugs*...to be told to "wait", well, sometimes that's just not possible..like telling it to rain AFTER the picnic
lara{Zor} 20:20:15 CST
ok not sure if this will make since or not..takin into account im a true blond here...
but with my RT Master when i want to release i do beg cause He knows what to do and i will release..so its not really like holdin back till givin permission, its beggin for Him to keep goin so i can release
Jaegers_kath 20:20:22 CST
kath thinks that most Masters are very interested in the response of the slave and can determine when to allow the slave to orgasm and that this is a good thing for Him to enjoy as well.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:20:33 CST
sefa and clio....you may both whisper to me...
~mischief~ 20:20:43 CST
slave agrees Master Rollo, nothing says begging in them...*nodding*
Paedur-Slavemaster 20:20:58 CST
So that al know their punishment here and now, both shall speand an hour a day for 7 days in the Tavern and all they are permitted to do is to refresh, no service no discussion no whispers. NOTHING.
But experience what a Free feels when they are left unattended.
clio since she can not hold her tongue shall clean the floors of the Piazza and the Tavern with her tongue. Every nook and cranny.
sefa will serve Lady Laroona with what ever the owmen wishes for an hour for 7 days as well.
and their beauty they so wished to keep is now likethe hair they used to wear, GONE.
If they can find their hearts, they I shall let their hair grow else they will be kept shaved clean.
Any one else wish to piss Me off this day, please feel free to do so.
Dakota 20:22:42 CST
respectfully Senior Captain...will there be a ruling from this?...I see it as a Man's choice.....I don't see it being able to be ruled "Gorean" or not....
Rollo_the_Ax 20:25:40 CST
LOL...LOL.. yes, kath... you are correct in a way...but doesn't the master do so by * adjusting * his timing or actions to either slow the girls responce or to push her over the edge at the precise moment that HE chooses ??? so how can she be said to have the control to NOT orgasm when the need is on her ???? it seems redundent to me that he both says * not yet * but then is the one to cause the reaction..... NOT healthy SEX, but just one more POWER TRIP where the only loser is the woman that will feel she has FAILED simply becasue she did what * CAME * ( sorry for the pun ) Naturally .......
Laroona 20:26:16 CST
In reality this is cyberland so it is done with typed words so what really is the issue? LOL
galah{RA} 20:27:33 CST
heheheheheeee heheheheeeee **breaks out in laughter at Mistress Laroonas words** heheheheheheee
Zoran 20:28:17 CST
It is up to the Master
a free can do with his slut as he please I can fuck her on a table I can make her hold back or not at all is my choice
Jaegers_kath 20:30:11 CST
It is delicious to be forced to wait and then given release. It can be punishment if forced to wait too long. Mistress Laroona, *grins*, words can be very effective even in cyber.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:30:32 CST
No.. no * rules * being made, Dakota.....LOL... just an open discussion about the topic..... what happens in the private alcoves or whatever is still between the two involved.... the only or main point is the issue that to require permission seems to set the girl up for failure from the start, and in the end can only impact her self esteem in a negative way..... to say.. I am making you come...but you CAN'T right now.... goes against logic...
Laroona 20:31:59 CST
LOL so like a porn movie without pictures LOL
galah{RA} 20:33:55 CST
ooooooohhh but not without pictures Mistress, the mind is a very powerful thing and the picture it makes can be most tantalizing indeed
Zoran 20:34:03 CST
LOL and no cheap music
Laroona 20:34:04 CST
oops was supposed to be a whisper LOL
*blushes all shades of red**
Rollo_the_Ax 20:35:52 CST
LOL...LOL... But Laroona... haven't you seen those NEW gadgets you can get ??? electrodes and things to hook up to the puters to transmit shocks and such ???? LOL..LOL... ONLY kidding..... we base so much of what and how we would DO things here on how it would be in RT.... it seems only fair and logical to try and do so with the sex as well.......LOL...
Zoran 20:37:24 CST
LOL wonder if Rollo is a expert
Laroona 20:37:55 CST
Captain Rollo they have?
I need to go shopping then
Xertog got any spare coins?
Zoran 20:38:50 CST
wonders if there be a flux in the Market after this forum LMAo
Xertog 20:40:11 CST
Sorry Laroona not this hand.. chuckles
Rollo_the_Ax 20:40:44 CST
LOL...LOL.. Hey, this is all subjective after all..... LOL.. like why stop at only ONE orgasm ??? LOL... women have that * special * ability to have multiple orgasms, so why waste time or effort ??? LOL...LOL... To stop at ONE would be like only taking one bite of desert... LOL.. better to enjoy the WHOLE slice or pie or cake.....LOL.. several are MUCH better than just ONE.......LOL...LOL... * Huurmpf, or so I am TOLD ....* LOL..
Laroona 20:41:01 CST
ohh next hand then Xertog .... *making a note**
Xertog 20:42:01 CST
Next hand? perhaps Laroona
Rollo_the_Ax 20:42:49 CST
Looking about... has this gone too far for y'all ??? it seems that many/most of you have gone silent ???
Paedur-Slavemaster 20:43:50 CST
I am still here Rollo. trying to catch up. LOL
or keep up.
but NOT keep it up.
I do not have to try hard for THAT. *WEG* LOL
Deirdre 20:44:00 CST
*nodding to Rollo*
Aye PLEASE Captain.....
topaz{Rast's_girl} 20:44:31 CST
*just smiles and stays silent*
Paedur-Slavemaster 20:44:40 CST
Laughs I do like enjoying the WHOLE PIE Rollo. *WEG*
Licks My lips slowly.
nassy{Sg} 20:45:17 CST
nassy is still here..and in r/t she asks for release....it might be just at the start of the orgasm but she asks...sometimes he slows down, others he says give it to me babe....89shurgs* she has always done that before she ever heard or came to a BDSM room or Gor
Rollo_the_Ax 20:46:37 CST
LOL...LOL. In a way, the Master still has or exersizes his control over the slaves life or death.... for is not orgasm called * la pette morte * ??? not that I speak french, but it is often called * the small death * .... by making his girl * almost DIE * in this way, has not any Master shown not only that he OWNS her, but that he values her enough to give her such a gift ??????
Paedur-Slavemaster 20:47:45 CST
Laughs about gifts and value and what a women remembers. LOL
Sorry divorce is nearly final. *S*
Nicholas20:48:21 CST
Laughs about the small gifts..
Rollo_the_Ax 20:49:27 CST
LOL...LOL...Okay, folks..... I guess that we have covered THIS topic as well as it is going to be covered.....LOL... if anybody has another they wish to talk about, PM me and we will see if we have time.......
Rollo_the_Ax 20:55:32 CST
LOL..no, O... I said * small death * not small GIFT.....LOL.. nope...never caled anybody SMALL in the * GIFT* department.....LOL... seen guys beat to death for less..... LOL..
Nicholas 20:57:23 CST
It was a self serving comment Rollo, not directed towards anyone..
FW IN TAVERN - MONDAYS
Rollo_the_Ax 20:53:46 CST
One thing... the Council want to announce that after much debate and concideration, that we have decided to allow FW into the Tavern ALL day on Mondays, and not just the hours before and after the forum..... so from this moment on..( until further notice...LOL.. ) FW are allowed in the GS tavern for the whole 24 hour period of Mondays..... the Council will observe this situation, and decide IF any further changes are warrented or NOT.....
Laroona 20:55:42 CST
hearing Captain Rollo
I smile and hope that this is posted so all know this is a ruling, as some will think it is open season on FW
ENTERING PIAZZA & CASMIKS
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:00:51 CST
Something else that was brought to My attention.
On the girls entering the Tavern, they beg and wait for permission.
On entering the Piazza, the girls do not beg but announce themselves.
THEN after they have been given permission or announced themsleves, they should greet or do as commanded.
they should not enter and greet in the same post.
be it the Tavern or the Piazza
caitlin_{Xg-L}t 21:02:41 CST
understood Master Paedur ~nodding~
Rollo_the_Ax 21:03:36 CST
a good point, brother...
clio_GS_ 21:03:25 CST
clio, stays kneeling before Master Rollo.
with tears in her eyes, she cries openly, Master Rollo, clio begs forgiveness, for her disrespect during the forum, she wont let it happen again.
sister galah, clio begs your forgivenes for her rude behavior, she will not let it happen again,*cries uncontrolably,shakes in galah presence*
galah{RA} 21:03:37 CST
Slave Master, girls should be donning a camisk upon entering then greeting after that?
topaz{Rast's_girl} 21:03:43 CST
nods, aye Master Paedur, that is what topaz had thought, thank You...*smiles*
Laroona 21:04:48 CST
that makes it more consistant and less confusing Captain Paedur *S*
Rollo_the_Ax 21:05:58 CST
looking at clio....... * see that you do NOT ever repeat such actions girl.... for I was DEADLY serious when I said what I did..... you are forgiven for this matter..... and may leave if you need to do so.....
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:06:08 CST
In their entrance galah they can don the camisk. *S*
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:06:36 CST
clio, post your apology now since you need to go
Laroona 21:06:53 CST
Captain Paedur and that goes for every salve to wear a casmik?
clio_GS_ 21:07:10 CST 69.132.2.252
thank you Master Rollo, the girl crawls backward some distance before rising to leave
galah{RA} 21:07:30 CST
clio, gal is very sorry to if we got off on the wrong foot with one another, she accepts the apology and hopes we can make it a new start clio...believe it or not, galah was once upon a time, a much loved fg here, that was then and this is now....those tears you shed now are the same tears galah has spilled over the past few months sis, time heals, slowly but surely and gal truly hopes we can make things right between us, but especially for gs
~mischief~ 21:07:36 CST
~tilts head~ m's would not wear a camisk, she wears a kirtle ...it is actually (or has the potential) to be more modest then a camisk
clio_GS_ 21:07:41 CST
yes Master
clio, stays kneeling before Master Rollo.
with tears in her eyes, she cries openly, Master Rollo, clio begs forgiveness, for her disrespect during the forum, she wont let it happen again.
sister galah, clio begs your forgivenes for her rude behavior, she will not let it happen again,*cries uncontrolably,shakes in galah presence*
Laroona 21:07:44 CST
salve = slave
*another typist bites the wall**
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:08:57 CST
Yes Lady Laroona EVERY slave, those are the rules of GS.
they will be followed be it GS slave or free owned slave.
Those are the Council rules for the Piazza. *S*
and if any Free has issue with that then they may take it up with Council. *S*
Any Free. *S*
galah{RA} 21:09:54 CST
those same words go to you also topaz **soft smile**
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:09:55 CST
Oh yes, the kirtle is also acceptable.
thank you mischief.
sefa post your apology now girl.
~mischief~ 21:10:07 CST
Master Paedur, a girl's kirtle is more modest then a kirtle *confused look* You wish her to take it off to don a shorter garment?
Laroona 21:10:20 CST
thank you Captain Paedur *S*
another issue cleared up *S*
~mischief~ 21:10:28 CST
thank You, SlaveMaster, girl was confused...
sefa{GS} 21:11:24 CST
Master Paedur sefa needs to leave..she as to tend to r/t
topaz{Rast's_girl} 21:12:18 CST
thank you galah, and topaz also would like to return those words to you...*smiles*
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:12:22 CST
then post your apology and get to it sefa.
sefa{GS} 21:12:52 CST
yes Master
Rollo_the_Ax 21:13:24 CST
We have kirtles as well as camisks ??? LOL.. I never knew that... I may just have to made a few more gilrs wear them now and then.......LOL.. like a trip HOME without the sea voyage...LOL..
sefa{GS} 21:13:43 CST
crawling to Mistress Laroona...kneeling in front of her....
Mistress Laroona sefa appolizes..for disrespecting You...she begs Your
forgivness...it will never happen again...
~mischief~ 21:14:08 CST
Master Rollo, girl wore a kirtle with her last collar and it was never taken from her. it is the only thing a girl has to wear
sefa{GS} 21:14:41 CST
sefa would also like to applozize to mischief for her lack of respect
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:16:05 CST
I can have kirtles available for You Rollo.
although I had heard you like the girls naked and hairless from the eyebrows down. *WEG* LOL
~mischief~ 21:16:07 CST
~girl waits quietly for Mistress' response before she answers~
Laroona 21:16:28 CST
looks at sefa and speaks slowly,
it had best not girl, as you let down yourself as well as your Owners, not just me.
you are forgiven and I will ensure I will attend at times to ensure your punishment is to take place I may need one day out on Sunday for a RT I cannot avoid *S*
Rollo_the_Ax 21:17:15 CST
LOL...LOL.. Okay then, mm... I will see if I can get the Council to * shake loose * enough coins to buy a few more so that they are always there for any girl to use if needed... LOL...LOL..
sefa{GS} 21:17:54 CST
yes Mistress Laroona
Laroona 21:18:51 CST
sefa next time it will be wise for you not to speak until I had spoken my words
~mischief~ 21:19:28 CST
Master Rollo ~blushes hot~ girl's is a bit tattered (she's had it for 3 years now) but as she is a bareneck it would not be appropraite in her thoughts to borrow a Tavern silk. she hopes she causes no problems with the kirtle it is not her intent!
sefa{GS} 21:19:28 CST
yes Mistress Laroona
Rollo_the_Ax 21:20:00 CST
WHO TOLD YOU, Paedur ????? LOL...LOL... the clothed part is removed quik enough... and the shaved or hairless part can be an event unto itself.....LOL...LOL... they say that elecrtic razors * tickle * certain places VERY MUCH.....LOL...LOL.. LMAO...
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:21:22 CST
LOL hearing Rollo.
and then winks to galah, having learned something of the girl tonight with Rollo's admitting to electric razors and tickling. LOL *wink*
Rollo_the_Ax 21:22:42 CST
LOL..LOL.. mischief..... what is a lump of cloth between friends...LOL...LOL... feel free to take a NEW kirtle from the pile when they get here... and keep your old one as a reminder.....
Laroona 21:23:18 CST
heeee m's I could put icthing powder in it heeeee
~mischief~ 21:23:49 CST
~looks at the tattered Hem of the kirtle~
Master Rollo, girl thanks You for Your kidness! she apprecaites it!
galah{RA} 21:25:10 CST
**slinks back behind his chair, not wanting to hear this or have any see her reddened face**
Rollo_the_Ax 21:25:41 CST
LOL..LOL.. but brother ???? the REAL fun starts with the shave foam and safty razor.....LOL...LOL.... then clean up after wards..... and CLOSE inspection to make sure you did the job WELL....... LOL..LOL.. you know something ??? tongues are MUCH more sensitive than fingers when looking for * razor stubble * .......LOL...LOL... roaring with laughter...
~mischief~ 21:25:57 CST
Mistress, m's been good...lately *laughing*...You wouldn't want to do that to her...right? ~bat bat bat of her lashes~
sefa, m's heard your words, she wishes you to know that not only did you disobey a direct command but you made HER disobey one as she was told what to do with you. Thinking that you were important enough for a Captain to come fetch you from the Piazza is beyond mischief (as she was bring you to Him as she was ordered).
If you wish to play with your neck that is your choice, but when you cause m's to be desobediant that is upon her shoulders.
you are forgiven but if it happeneds again and girl gets you before the Master's do, she'll beat you herself...
Sandman,,Builder_ 21:26:17 CST
chuckling at Rollo's inspection method
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:27:31 CST
sefa you may go girl.
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:28:51 CST
Laughing HARD RT.
I prefer a straight razor My Friend but the rest I fully agree. LOL
laughing hard still. LOL
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:29:14 CST
mischief, I will punish the girl period.
understand Me?
~mischief~ 21:29:53 CST
as You wish Master