GOREAN INN- WHITE SILKS
Xertog 19:35:37 pm CST
May as well start the forum.. Send me topic suggestions. Regular weekly rules as always are in place
Xertog 19:42:57 pm CST
I got just one topic and it is:
can we review the rules of the Inn for slaves
esp white silk slaves
Laroona 19:45:02 pm CST
what is there to review.. this has been chomped over,. spat out many times until it is in stone
anya{GS} 19:45:05 pm CST
it should be the same as the Tavern Master
anya{GS} 19:45:49 pm CST
fully restricted no lapping and no furring
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:45:50 pm CST
girls do not serve there, if they are asked to serve
its a very quick one or two sentence serve and they entice or encourage the Free to visit their home at GS to serve them properly
Laroona 19:46:32 pm CST
whites can go to the GINN.... harta serves, and offer to bring people to GS
BUT GS must always come first.... if a patron is in GS then GInn must be left...
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:47:00 pm CST
what if a Master asks a slave to curtsey?
what if a Master tells a slave to leave because she refuses to whisper her age to Him?
Xertog 19:47:22 pm CST
anya the rules are different there then in the tavern for GS slaves.
anya{GS} 19:48:05 pm CST
one is sorry she did not the ruls for sure Master she just thought it was both for were basically the same Master
hawidah 19:49:18 pm CST
a girl wishes A/all a good week
Xertog 19:49:55 pm CST
First off the GI is not part of GS. The Council doesn't rule that room. But we do control the conduct of GS slaves there.
Laroona 19:50:14 pm CST
if she refuses to whisper her age etc that should be reported to Captains....
even that is against the TOS of the site ...
and if he does not want to be gorean then slave shjould leave him to his stupid whims to go and play in the BDSM rooms
Kuurus 19:50:54 pm CST
Has joined the room
Ramses 19:53:27 pm CST
agrees with Laroona entirely
Laroona 19:53:45 pm CST
if she is a white silk she is not to lap etc
if she wants that she also can go to the BDSM rooms without her collar... is my understanding
anya{GS} 19:53:49 pm CST
listens quietly
jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 19:54:45 pm CST
so a girl can go to BDSM with her slave name... just no collar?
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:54:50 pm CST
well a girl would like to tell girls to say
*go fly a kite* ~lol~
but she doesnt..
a Master in the Inn has no right to ask a slave to do anything outside of her home that is not in the protocols and rules of GS and by her Owners
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:55:19 pm CST
no collar??
shrieks....one would hope not jesse
sighs
Laroona 19:55:29 pm CST
Ramses thanks
some thing asking asl is their right well it is not their damn right to ask fior RT information
Ramses 19:55:37 pm CST
I'm not sure I'd go that far, jesse
Xertog 19:55:40 pm CST
Regarding asking your age. That falls under this rule:
NO PERSON IS REQUIRED TO GIVE OUT ANY REAL TIME (RT) INFORMATION TO ANY ASKING, NOR CAN THEY BE FORCED TO GIVE THIS INFORMATION - BE FREE OR SLAVE!
ANY PERSON INSISTING THAT RT INFORMATION IS TO BE GIVEN TO THEM, ARE TO BE REPORTED TO THE COUNCIL OF CAPTAINS AND THEY WILL BE REMOVED FROM GOREAN SHORES.
I can't speak for the rest of the Council but as for my self if it is done in GI I don't want the asshole seeking RT information in GS.
Laroona 19:56:40 pm CST
or another name
been done before so is it a rule or not be another in poolside chat other than GINN???
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:56:42 pm CST
cant imagine a slave of GS going anywhere
using her slave name without her collar
ever
jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 19:56:58 pm CST
jesse was just trying to clarify what Mistress was saying is all
Ramses 19:57:16 pm CST
Xertog, I;d say that applies to any GS slave, anywhere she goes
Laroona 19:58:00 pm CST
or speaking about peoples RT in GS
Xertog 19:59:16 pm CST
Only a real low life would bring another persons RT into GS.
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:59:50 pm CST
Master Xertog...please clarify
a GS slave wears her collar if using her slave name anywhere always??
Laroona 20:00:11 pm CST
Personally I thing a GS slave should wear her collar...
But then there is nothing to stop her being anyone anywhere else is there really?
I am tossing this out... as the Webbie will take their money anytime
Laroona 20:01:29 pm CST
Xertog I agree nothing but a lowlife would do that, but it has been done to far too many
Ramses 20:01:29 pm CST
of course He will Laroona ...we can't stop that
but slave using her slave name is collared
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:02:08 pm CST
just as there is nothing to stopping any Free from being anyone anywhere else
a girl outside of GS, not using her GS collar but another name is her business ...a girl outside GS duelling in another Gorean home is lethal
jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 20:02:31 pm CST
jesse can see having another membership outside of Gor... she in fact does...
but.. her opinion is.. if you go into a setting that collars are worn... you wear the one you wear in Gor.. even i you're in BDSM.... and not a BDSM name different with a different collar.. seems that would go against the rule about girls focusing on GS
Ramses 20:02:34 pm CST
nods in agreement with aurora
Laroona 20:02:49 pm CST
so she uses her slave name for gor
any other name for any other room
is sorta what I am tossing out
Ramses 20:03:19 pm CST
I would say yes, Laroona
jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 20:03:49 pm CST
so she cant go into BDSM with her Gor name and collar?
Laroona 20:03:54 pm CST
aurora well put...
anya{GS} 20:04:24 pm CST
listens
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:04:41 pm CST
a yellow and red silk slave can travel outside of GS
a white silk slave can travel to the Inn
Xertog 20:05:00 pm CST
aurora the GS Council has never felt it controls what GS girls do out side of Gor. To me that applies to wearing collars or not. Myself, I just assume they use another name in BDSM rooms as to keep them separate.
jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 20:05:54 pm CST
but what if they dont.. and go with their name and collar.. or name without/
Laroona 20:06:10 pm CST
aurora even travelling outside GS can be dangerous as some places DO NOT honour collars..... so if one travels one best be sure of the site/room rules before she enters
Captains have enough to do than chase down captured slaves
Ramses 20:06:21 pm CST
jesse, as far as I am concerned she can go anywhere with her collar on, but should behave appropriately where ever it is
Laroona used the word "or" applied to "any other name"
if she chooses to use another name so be it
but if using her salve name, then she is collared and remembers how her owners are
Xertog 20:06:23 pm CST
jessenia that is between you and your Master.
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:06:48 pm CST
aye Master, thank You
it would seem very disrespectful to her Owner/Owners
to chat using her slave name without her collar
girl just cannot imagine that
she would truly question the loyalty and the meaning of wearing that collar
Kringe 20:07:07 pm CST
agrees with ramses
jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 20:07:29 pm CST
jesse knows that... but she does answer questions of GS salves if they ask.. so she was trying to make sure..
maybe she'lll just refrain from doing that anymore
Laroona 20:08:05 pm CST
maybe the meaning of the collar should be part of the collaring ritual same as the whipping and branding is
Ramses 20:08:29 pm CST
*G*
jesse, please keep asking
it's best that we all hear the same things and understand the same rules
Laroona 20:09:35 pm CST
well it would be great if all were on the same page at least then people wil know if they read the page of course
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:11:08 pm CST
the meaning of the collar is part of the collaring process
just not all Free collar the way it is set out in the manual
Laroona 20:11:52 pm CST
aurora it is in the slave section so I suppose Free do not read that LOl
Zoran 20:13:17 pm CST
grins there a manual to collar
you mean they don't go around the ankle
Laroona 20:14:08 pm CST
Zoran in fact there is How to conduct a collaring by Rollo the Ax
Ramses 20:14:55 pm CST
I just read that again, not too long ago, Laroona
Kringe 20:15:00 pm CST
chuckles..
Zoran 20:15:03 pm CST
dam shame I can't read
shrugs
that is what I don't want to read lol
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:15:46 pm CST
angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/kajirainfo/collaring.html
just for Master Zoran ~ lil grin~
Ramses 20:15:57 pm CST
chuckling
Bhoamar 20:16:20 pm CST
aue Zoran there are guidelines and they help if someone has no idea how but they should be just guidelines in My opinion. this is a very personal thibng that should not be trivialized by step by step
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:16:38 pm CST
girl will read it to You next time she is in the tavern Master Zoran
~helpful nod~
Zoran 20:17:50 pm CST
well said Bhoammar
ah thank you aurora but I am sure my mine will be on other things with you around winks
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:17:51 pm CST
aye Master Bhoamar
girl so does agree with You
nevertheless the basic steps are there so that
new Masters collaring girls to GS ensure they know
what that collar means
Laroona 20:18:05 pm CST
a collaring is not a trivial matter it is the commencement of a kajira/kajius life
Bhoamar 20:18:38 pm CST
aye girl it is just as important for a Master to know what He is doing as the implications are great
vina{GS} 20:19:00 pm CST
~listens..
Ramses 20:19:07 pm CST
not meaning to speak for Bhoamar, but I think that's what He was saying Laroona
anya{GS} 20:19:40 pm CST
listens
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:19:46 pm CST
nods softly understanding Master Bhoamars words perfectly
Laroona 20:19:48 pm CST
for any Free for that matter IMO
Zoran 20:20:13 pm CST
Laroona if you understood what he said was by have a how to for dummies to collar
it somewhat take the persnala touch away
I ----(place name here) do take this slave to be mine (slave name here)
that is all he ment
I think no one in this room now take them likely
Bhoamar 20:20:14 pm CST
aye Ramses, it is
Laroona 20:21:45 pm CST
I understood I only expressed my opinion
seems that was wrong
Bhoamar 20:22:34 pm CST
nope never wrong to express an opinion.
Ramses 20:22:50 pm CST
nodding, in that case it was Me who did not understand, Laroona
Xertog 20:11:59 pm CST
Any other topic suggestions?
SALE OF WHITE SILKS
Xertog 20:21:52 pm CST
Next topic:
selling of white silk slaves
should they be sold??
Bhoamar 20:23:00 pm CST
how much you want for the lot?
Ramses 20:23:46 pm CST
uhmmm, is there an overriding reason, NOT to sell white silks?
Zoran 20:24:07 pm CST
selling of a white silk hmmm
I think not yellow yes whit not
still learning in almost every way
Kringe 20:24:12 pm CST
I think if the Free wants the girl and understands she is not fully trained and is willing to take that into consideration if the Council
is willing then ...aye
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:24:20 pm CST
is there an overwhelming reason to sell them?
~grins~
Xertog 20:24:31 pm CST
Regarding the Council selling white silks. We don't sell girls till they move to the next level in their training.
Ramses 20:24:42 pm CST
white's are less expensive then, Zoran
*G*
jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 20:24:53 pm CST
in the past the reasoning was they were not fully trained yet..
unless jesse is mistaken...
Ramses 20:25:25 pm CST
*L*
well that makes for an easy answer then Xertog
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:25:47 pm CST
agrees with Master Zoran
and Master Xertog
most times history dictates that the girl is released
even before her training is completed if in face it even started
Ramses 20:25:49 pm CST
*chuckling at aurora*
Zoran 20:25:52 pm CST
LOl ah but sometime cheap merchandise is not worth the money spent friend lol
I just see them as to vunrable to being abuse in white silks
Ramses 20:27:04 pm CST
looks like Kringe and I are in the minority on this one
Xertog 20:27:20 pm CST
That is why the Council doesn't sell them Zoran.
Zoran 20:28:10 pm CST
wow Xertog I agree with you guys
this could be the end of the world LMAo
as I mess with the Captain
Kringe 20:28:11 pm CST
shrugs...well cant blame Us for tryn eh?
Bhoamar 20:28:15 pm CST
*shruggs* a white silk does not draw Patrons to the tavern. and extended training for yellows certainly does not keep patrons coming back
Zoran 20:29:02 pm CST
LOl at Kringe
Ramses 20:29:26 pm CST
*chuckling*
Laroona 20:31:23 pm CST
IMO a slave can never stop learning no matter what level she is at
Ramses 20:32:07 pm CST
*G*
that's true of slaves and Free, Laroona
Zoran 20:32:35 pm CST
but after white is completed the basic fondation is there and decion can be made with a good decision
Laroona 20:32:37 pm CST
Ramses I am glad you said Free and not me LOl
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:33:01 pm CST
aye monetary worth
emotionally speaking...a new slave to Gor
in training in white silks is overwhelmed
how many white silk slaves remain in personal collars??
and for how long?
once that collar is removed - they are lost to GS most times
Bhoamar 20:33:15 pm CST
andno slave should stop learning. but that is not the issue. whites are not for sale. whites are nor for usage. a lack of yellow or red silks causes attendance to lag in the tavern. the only place that trully benefits from a plethora of whites is the Piazza
Laroona 20:34:04 pm CST
so true aurora that happens so often over the years I have noticed....
the turn over of slaves
Xertog 20:35:52 pm CST
If the patrons are just coming in for a cyber screwing and don't return because they feel they did get enough action in the alcoves I don't feel we lost much.
Laroona 20:36:44 pm CST
whites can go to any room
the only restriction is doing their assignments once handed in they go where ever they like....
jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 20:37:03 pm CST
it's not saying that that's all anyone comes for...
but it is a big part of it for most Masters.. like it or not
Kringe 20:37:34 pm CST
agrees with Xertog....shakes My head ...aye the paga is good too
Bhoamar 20:38:09 pm CST
*chuckling* maybe not. but maybe the allure of possibly furring a tavern slut might bring back some young FM and may actually learn what Gor is about in the process. and as proven by the one zenith an hng is about as subtle as a hammer
anya{GS} 20:38:18 pm CST
still listens quietly
Bhoamar 20:38:49 pm CST
aye, it is Brother
Ramses 20:39:02 pm CST
rising and heading out
I wish you all well
Bhoamar 20:39:18 pm CST
be well Ramses
Kringe 20:39:30 pm CST
Be Well Ramses
Laroona 20:40:09 pm CST
some enter GS and expect a white to fur them and toss a hissy fit when they cannot... that is HNG like yet these portray themselves as Gorean LOL...
Bhoamar 20:41:40 pm CST
then Laroona they have not read the rules. their loss
O COLLAR SLAVES TRAVELLING
Xertog 20:39:54 pm CST
Next topic:
should girls that have been in O collars keep being allowed to visit Capture zones under protection with no collar?
Bhoamar 20:40:21 pm CST
that's an easy one...
nope
bijou 20:40:26 pm CST
~listens~
Kringe 20:40:55 pm CST
easy ...no collar no protection
Xertog 20:40:55 pm CST
The O collar is for 14 days. After that they get no protection from the Council.
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:41:11 pm CST
the collar lasts two weeks
Laroona 20:41:53 pm CST
I understood the GS O collar was only good in GS and no where else
bijou 20:42:00 pm CST
even if she has been told she will be protected until she is able to submit?
vina{GS} 20:42:59 pm CST
vina does not think the girls should be allowed further protection once the two weeks is up for observing...the slave should know at that time whether or not they wish to be collared to GS or not... if not, well they then enter into collaring zones at their own risk...
Xertog 20:43:13 pm CST
Where does this protection come from bijou?
bijou 20:43:36 pm CST
from You Master
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:43:44 pm CST
bijou ~ if thats the case
then why have the rules for capture/collar in place
in the first place
a girl has NO business in the Tavern repeatedly
and there should be no such thing as protection
Kringe 20:43:58 pm CST
stands and heads to the side door
Laroona 20:44:41 pm CST
Xertog I assume the question was outside GS or am I assuming incorrectly?
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:44:41 pm CST
fear is lacking in the view of slaves
if they can be allowed to enter with protection
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:45:50 pm CST
aurora has been there
she presented this argument years ago bijou
was told by Jarl Skullsplitter
you enter, you risk being captured and collared
even with protection
Xertog 20:47:16 pm CST
bijou there are times when I have been to the tavern and have offered to let a free neck in and offered my protection while I was there.
Laroona 20:47:38 pm CST
ahhaha re-read the question
IMO NO capture room means that
there are rules for capture and then Council vote... as I understand them
jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 20:48:38 pm CST
seems that's unfair to the girls who have submitted and work hard for their home
guess that's where the Gor not being fair comes in
Xertog 20:49:08 pm CST
I assume the question was in regards to the GS tavern Laroona.
anyaGS 20:49:39 pm CST
slips quietly back kicking the urt away
Laroona 20:49:52 pm CST
collared slaves are safe in GS
uncollared entering capture rooms NO
Bhoamar 20:50:42 pm CST
has nothing to do with Gor being fair jesse. if has to do with freenecks axccessing captue zones with impunity
jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 20:51:41 pm CST
yes Master
Laroona 20:52:39 pm CST
the Piazza is safe...
I recall there have been times when an O collar was extended under exceptional circumstances
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:55:18 pm CST
some girls actually push the rule
they enter wanting the capture
to be collared,
it works the other way as well
Bhoamar 20:55:20 pm CST
Tavern- Kill/Capture Zone
Piazza- Not a Kill/Capture Zone
Training Yard- Kill/Capture Zone
Bath House- Kill/Capture Zone
Slave Kennels- Not a Kill/Capture Zone,
Market Bazaar-
Forum- Not a Kill/Capture Zone.
Laroona 20:55:38 pm CST
to continually give blanket I will protect you coverage takes away the thrill and fear of a capture
ppl complain about not enough r/p well there is one way to r/p
Bhoamar 20:56:20 pm CST
aye aurora.... some do. some act as if they do and do not honor it
anyaGS 20:56:51 pm CST
~listens~
Laroona 20:57:08 pm CST
or some when threatened get scared and are never seen again
so it can be a catch 22 situation
Bhoamar 21:02:02 pm CST
that was fun
Laroona 21:03:55 pm CST
the rules are at the entry.. but heck who stops to read them
very few it seems
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 21:07:34 pm CST
laughing as she rereads old forum scrolls
this
aurora 20:55:22 CST
if i wanted a kolar i would beg for it or accept the consequences of placing myself in a postion where i had no choice
but if i beg protection of One to enter the tavern for the time that Master is present...is that not acceptable?
entering the piazza only does not allow for a slave to be a slave sexually or allow the need and desires within to be expressed vividly
so in other words there is no place in GS for a free neck slave who may want to serve with begging protection for one night in the tavern?
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 21:07:53 pm CST
now hunts for the response from Jarl *L
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 21:08:24 pm CST
The_Skullsplitter 20:59:58 CST
Careful you do not twist words and concepts aurora...
At the end of the day, a slave knows what she is doing when she enters a Capture "Zone" and I have given one slave the option to enter without My capturing her, purely because I believe she NEEDS to interact, but what would happen if say, Xertog came in and then decided, "Hmm, I fancy a piece of that" and then goes and collars her? Am I supposed to then go and kill him because I kept My word? Protection in such Zones is a risky choice on both parties because what one man might regard as ethical, may not be the same as what another man and then who is wrong? The person giving the slave protection entry under a supposed virtual Code, or the Man who decides to take a slave in a Gorean manner?
A slave can't simply pick and choose who you want to serve, and when you want to serve him. If she DID want that choice, then you would have to question her true manner.
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 21:09:32 pm CST
aurora learnt! *nods*
Laroona 21:09:55 pm CST
LOL no sexual serve in the Piazza now aurora LOl
and there are some who use the Piazza as a safe zone for months ..
maybe that should be revisted as per the number of times in the Piazza without a collar
Xertog 21:10:53 pm CST
JT did clarify things well at times.
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 21:11:39 pm CST
lol, the girl tried Mistress
You and Master Xertog both know that
Laroona 21:12:08 pm CST
aurora and who won LOL
Bhoamar 21:12:51 pm CST
*chuckling*
either it is a capture or is not.
leave it and be done..
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 21:13:14 pm CST
the sexy Jarl did of course
and the girl too ~ ~grins~
swoons as her fingers softly kiss her collar
Bhoamar 21:14:15 pm CST
afk.. 2 ehn
Xertog 21:15:56 pm CST
Well lets call the forum to a close. I thank everybody for attending.
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 21:16:30 pm CST
thank You Master Xertog
thank You Mistress
zoya{GS}t 21:16:37 pm CST
~*~whispers softly~*~ thank You Master Xertog