Present:
Ramses
Kazar
Dak
Bretval
ShadowHawk
Lita
shimmer
snowrose
lilly
karma
flicka
Dak 19:41:15 pm CDT
if any has a topic for forum whisper to Me, and I will open the forum
Ramses, Captain of GS 19:45:47 pm CDT
no topics tonight?
Dak 19:46:37 pm CDT
none yet, *smiles*
Dak 19:49:05 pm CDT
ok, I have a topic I will open the forum , same rules keep chit chat and greetings to whispers, s what's the difference being a yellow silk~`~ collared to a captains and serve the tavern rather than having a personal collar from a captain ~
Ramses, Captain of GS 19:50:06 pm CDT
Hmmmmm, sitting back and listening
Lita, Physician 19:52:08 pm CDT
By being "collared to captains and serve the Tavern" do you mean having a GS collar, where GS slaves are owned by all the Captains?
shimmer{GS} 19:52:18 pm CDT
well from this girls experience it is a huge difference...
Dak 19:52:38 pm CDT
the tavern slaves aren't kolared to the Captains, they are kolared to the tavern, the Captains run the tavern personal slaves wear the kolar of their owner
Ramses, Captain of GS 19:52:39 pm CDT
for one things the rules under which the slave plays her role might be different
Bretval, Merchant 19:52:49 pm CDT
The captains personal slave leads we can a yellow goes back to the kennel
flicka-slave of Keeper 19:53:56 pm CDT
A girl who is collared to GS and ergo all of the Captains is a Tavern slave. She is subjected to the rules of Gorean Shores in every way.
If a girl is in a Captain's personal collar He may decide to have her subjected to rules of His choice.
Bretval, Merchant 19:54:05 pm CDT
that did not come out correctly
Ramses, Captain of GS 19:55:52 pm CDT
being owned by the Captain(s) is far different from being owned by and individual Captain
Bretval, Merchant 19:56:13 pm CDT
As a group but not to individual captains,Kazar
Kazar~infamous pirate 19:57:31 pm CDT
Bretval yep not too one indidvidual Captain but to all the Captains
Dak 19:58:18 pm CDT
think of it like a corporation, the CEO and board of directors control every thing in the corporation, but don't necessarily own any of the business but every one in it answers to them !!
Bretval, Merchant 19:59:52 pm CDT
Well said, Dak
Ramses, Captain of GS 19:59:57 pm CDT
*grins*
well said Dak
Lita, Physician 20:00:24 pm CDT
Ummm.... Don't the CEOs often own large blocks of stock in their corporations?
shimmer{GS} 20:00:48 pm CDT
when you are owned as a {GS} slave you are bound by their rules...it has been hard for this girl as she has so wanted someone to go to when she needed someone.. it is hard... not having a person that you can go to that understands you and your desires...
when you are personally owned by a Captain you are subject to His rules and pleasure... he is the one that guides you , teaches you your slavery,, pleasures you and punishes you... you have one person devoted to you and your well being...
Ramses, Captain of GS 20:01:52 pm CDT
not often a controlling interest, Lita
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:03:09 pm CDT
Dak yep `
Dak 20:03:10 pm CDT
owning stock in a company is not the same as owning the company , they can't really point to any one item of the company they own
Bretval, Merchant 20:04:16 pm CDT
Yes , Lita, but they cannot use the equipment without permission
Lita, Physician 20:04:19 pm CDT
shimmer, when y9u belong to the Tavern, i.e. the Captains, you have a number of people to go to. you can go to the first girl, y9u can go to the Slave Master, or you can go to any of the Captains. Isn't that even better than having only One to go to, Who mayn not be available when you need Him?
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:05:44 pm CDT
shimmer, flicka is not sure she agrees with all that you have said. This girl is personally owned, but He is not the only One Who: " he is the one that guides you , teaches you your slavery,, pleasures you and punishes you... you have one person devoted to you and your well being.", for this girl all of the Masters withing GS have at various times stood in "loco parentis" for this girl's Jarl. And for that flicka is very grateful.
Lita, Physician 20:05:58 pm CDT
That is on earth, Bretval. I rather think on Gor Any of the Captains may use any of the "equipment" at will! *chuckle*
shimmer{GS} 20:06:03 pm CDT
yes Mistress that is true but really it is different... unless you have felt the difference you may not understand but there is a huge difference..
Dak 20:06:21 pm CDT
actually all they own is a share of the profits
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:07:33 pm CDT
flicka wink
Dak 20:08:08 pm CDT
that's be cuz they are in the direct control of the Captains, the Council is like the Board of Directors
Lita, Physician 20:08:13 pm CDT
Dak I have heard the Captains Themselves state that They, as a group, own all the Tavern slaves. I think there may be something to that effect on the web pages, but it has been so long I don't know where to look for it.
Lita, Physician 20:09:18 pm CDT
Believe Me, shimmer, I KNOW the difference.
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:09:20 pm CDT
there is a chain of command Mistress...the GS slave are not to go to the Captains first...they come to the first girl, or a trainer...if it is a situation of some immediacy and no trainer is present, then she can ask advice from a Captain
the fg passes the issue onto the Slave Master
Lita, Physician 20:10:29 pm CDT
Thank you for clarifying that, snow.
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:10:47 pm CDT
The Captain are the Owners of the slaves...the tavern doesn't own them...it employs them
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:10:55 pm CDT
flicka feels that she could go to Any of The Captains if she had a problem and Jarl Keeper was not available.
Indeed, flicka feels that she could approach any Master, and while she may get scolded, she knows that none would damage her.
Lita, Physician 20:11:16 pm CDT
That was what I thought, snow.
Dak 20:11:37 pm CDT
indirectly they may seem to own all of them
Bretval, Merchant 20:11:42 pm CDT
Lita, they have to answer to each other, if one kills a slave they must answer to the other captains
Ramses, Captain of GS 20:11:56 pm CDT
We do own the slaves
but it is not the same as owning them personally
its very different
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:13:02 pm CDT
personal slaves too should bring it to the fg or a trainer first unless it is urgent...
snowrose is fg and yet does not go to the Captains...she takes her problems first to the Slave Master...
Bretval, Merchant 20:13:24 pm CDT
If they kill their personal slave they have to answer to no one
Dak 20:14:32 pm CDT
the Captains have rights and priviledges
The Council Today:
The Council of Captains is open to new Captains, with no fixed number of Captains. New Captains will receive equal voice and vote in the administration of the tavern, and will have all privileges and rights accorded to current Captains. Attainment of the status of Captains requires a thorough knowledge of Gor and the tavern, a demonstrated commitment to Gorean Shores in time and energy, and loyalty to the Council and Gorean Shores above all other obligations or allegiances. Further, the process of attaining the rank of Captain will be slow and deliberate, and requires unanimous approval of all current Captains. There is a three step process to becoming Captain, and each prospective member should obtain a current Captain as a Sponsor and Mentor. First, a prospective member must have officially pledged his sword to Gorean Shores and declared it to be his home. Any individual may do this. Second, upon unanimous vote by the Council, the prospective member will become an Advisor to the Council, and may attend open Council sessions (usual sessions are open meetings for Advisors and Captains), and offer counsel and advice, but will have no vote. Upon unanimous vote, an Advisor will become a full Captain.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:15:01 pm CDT
mistress snowrose, this girl obeys the command of her Jarl.
Bretval, Merchant 20:17:04 pm CDT
You are not owned by the tavern, flicka
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:17:14 pm CDT
Dak aye ~
Dak 20:18:49 pm CDT
even slaves that are personally owned when not in the presence of their Masters are to follow the rules of the Tavern
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:18:54 pm CDT
Exactly Master Bretval and that is why flicka obeys her Jarl, there is no "should" when it comes to what flicka does, there is only His command.
ShadowHawk 20:20:53 pm CDT
*watching from Free to Free, listening to what each say to include the words slave state as well.... this being one of those rare times, I keep my tongue to myself*
Bretval, Merchant 20:21:54 pm CDT
Within any restrictions set by the owner, Dak
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:22:59 pm CDT
but there are certain rules of the home that all slaves are expected to follow...
Ramses, Captain of GS 20:23:05 pm CDT
the Owner can set any restictions, Bretval
however where is there no conflict the rules of the Tavern shuould also be adhered to
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:24:20 pm CDT
Master Dak, flicka agrees with You to the extent that the rules of the Tavern did not contradict a specific order of the girl's own Master. If it did, then it would need to be addressed to the Master not to the slave, for a slave MUST obey her Master's orders. It would be for the Captains to speak to the Free Man.
ShadowHawk 20:24:29 pm CDT
*placing arm around lilly, hugging her to thigh, while I listen in to the Pledged Members talk about their business*
karma [Q] ~ süß küsse~ 20:24:52 pm CDT
karma thinks that mistress is right...there are certain rules we all follow...but those that become questionable then we take those to our owners...sometimes it works and sometimes not
Bretval, Merchant 20:25:03 pm CDT
True enough, Ramses and snowrose
Dak 20:25:13 pm CDT
yes, but restrictions usually will not interfere with tavern general rules !
Ramses, Captain of GS 20:27:39 pm CDT
usually not Dak and if they did
then one has to wonder if the Master and slave belong here
Dak 20:28:01 pm CDT
absolutely, *smiles*
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:30:09 pm CDT
Master Ramses, that is exactly what flicka is thinking, if there were an issue, then the Council would take it up with the Free Man, if He were recalcitrant enough and the issue were important enough then The Council would decide the issue, with with Free Man. The slave has no say in it at all, her whole purpose of being is to obey.
Ramses, Captain of GS 20:30:33 pm CDT
*nodding to flicka ... My point exactly
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:31:10 pm CDT
flicka exactly `
Bretval, Merchant 20:32:26 pm CDT
Is it not usually the case that the most problems come from those who are not regulars.
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:34:40 pm CDT
Breyval `~ yep fpr the most part if a pledged is here we do look after our slaves here
ShadowHawk 20:35:33 pm CDT
*eyeing Bretval, deciding to speak out*.. care to explain that Bretval... I am not a regular but have been a part of this Tavern for many years..
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:35:43 pm CDT
~smiling at the Masters One and All~
Ramses, Captain of GS 20:35:56 pm CDT
agrees with Bretval as well
Ramses, Captain of GS 20:37:08 pm CDT
*laughs*
take it easy Hawk
I don't think He meant anyone in particular
*head butts My Friend, just becasue
Bretval, Merchant 20:37:39 pm CDT
And let me say those that attend once or twice and are never seen again
ShadowHawk 20:38:33 pm CDT
*feeling the head butt looking from Bretval to my long time friend Ramses.. finally a smile appears to me face.. nodding*.. aye, very well Ramses.. My bad... *settles back going quiet again pulling lilly to me sitting back watching again*
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:38:39 pm CDT
Master ShadowHawk, flicka looks upon You as a regular Master, she did so from the first day that she met You and served You.
A girl thinks that Master Bretval is referring to the occasional HNG who wanders into our home and for whatever purpose attempts to create mayhem.
Lita, Physician 20:39:13 pm CDT
Shadow Hawk, I believe what was meant was that most Who are pledged here know and understand and abide by Our rules. On the rare occasions where there are difficulties, it is usually due to Those Who are visiting and are NOT familiar with Our rules.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:39:17 pm CDT
~laughs softly as Master Ramses indulges in that peculiar form of male bonding~
lilly 20:40:07 pm CDT
*Smiles watching the interaction between the Two Masters, pulled to His thigh again, resting her head against it.*
Lita, Physician 20:41:11 pm CDT
Our "regular" visitors usually know the rules and abide by them. If They don't like Our rules, most often They just don't bother to visit.
Ramses, Captain of GS 20:41:40 pm CDT
*chuckles as I settle back onto My furs*
you will always be regular here Hawk
ShadowHawk 20:42:06 pm CDT
*nodding*.. thank you Lita and understood.. *smiling winking at flicka*
I am ok...
ShadowHawk 20:43:21 pm CDT
one day I hope to change that Ramses and mayhaps become a member again.. if the Captains so decide I am worthy.. *nodding a salute to you*
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:43:55 pm CDT
SH grins have had only one occasion when had hand on sword from a intruder from another GOR `` tavern ~`
Ramses, Captain of GS 20:44:54 pm CDT
Hawk, I hope to see you pledged again very soon
shimmer{GS} 20:45:17 pm CDT
girl has to say she does feel much safer here than her old home...
ShadowHawk 20:45:46 pm CDT
*settling down now.. nodding to my friend Kazar*.. aye Friend, there are many times when I were here I would have to stand before some stranger coming in thinking they could do and act as pleased...
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:49:10 pm CDT
SH ~`my home being a pirate all about altitiude grins ~~
ShadowHawk 20:51:05 pm CDT
*seeing how I had rudely interrupted their business I rise nodding to Ramses*.. I hope so as well my Friend.. I think I will head out so the Forum can return to the interaction.. My bad for interrupting, was not my intention, just that comment had struck me to the core..
*turning nodding to Kazar, Bretval and Lita*.. I wish you three well
slaves serve hungry and hotly...
*looking to lilly*.. you may stay if you wish... *smiling, turning again waving I head out*
Dak 20:51:58 pm CDT
all is well, Hawk, You needn't leave, *smiles*
Dak 20:59:16 pm CDT
does anyone have anything to add to the original topic
Lita, Physician 21:02:06 pm CDT
Not I, said the Little Red Hen
Dak 21:02:49 pm CDT
evidently there is nothing else, I will close the forum, and thank all for participating in with forum
thanks flicka for scribing
Bretval, Merchant 21:02:59 pm CDT
Not me
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:03:17 pm CDT
Thank You Master Dak for Leading.