ANNUAL FORUM BREAK
Ramses 19:46:02 pm CST
ok ... we have our first question
should Forums take a break and how long a break over the holiday period?
Ramses 19:46:57 pm CST
My own personal situation is such that I will likely not be on the next two weeks ...
Nerius 19:47:39 pm CST
I think it may be sensless to hold forum over the holidays, maybe have it resume in January sometime
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 19:47:45 pm CST
in jesse's opinion.. one until after the New Year would probably be wise... so much going on in everyone's r/t during that time
Laroona 19:47:54 pm CST
today is 16th USA
then the next is 23rd
then NY Eve
so how about this one is last till Jan 6 2008?
Nerius 19:48:18 pm CST
I wont be here much Myself
Ramses 19:48:38 pm CST
nods in agreement with Nerius
Ramses 19:49:13 pm CST
Laroona, that was the date I was trying to calculate in my head ...*L*
Laroona 19:49:28 pm CST
if it is decided then a post would need to be made by a Council member on the Message Boards IMO
so all know or can at least be pointed out..
Laroona 19:50:44 pm CST
Ramses I cheated I had a calendar open LOL
Ramses 19:51:09 pm CST
I agree Laroona ... we all seem to be in agreement here so I will bring this to the Council's attention and get a post made
Laroona 19:52:56 pm CST
well that was fast topic LOL
Ramses 19:53:14 pm CST
is there anybody that disagrees with the 6th being our next Forum?
Symbian 19:53:27 pm CST
for once we are all in agreement lol
Ramses 19:53:45 pm CST
so it seems Symbian
Laroona 19:54:46 pm CST
maybe so Symbian.... *S*
Ramses 19:56:03 pm CST
if there are any other topics please whisper to Me
Laroona 19:56:16 pm CST
that gives all a 3 hand break.... I think if I recall we broke about the same time last year....
Ramses 19:56:55 pm CST
that seems to be what I recall as well Laroona
Laroona 19:57:33 pm CST
*holds hand to head as Ramses and I agree again***
Ramses 20:03:35 pm CST
are there any other topics tonight?
SLAVE POSTING ENTERING & LEAVES
Ramses 20:06:40 pm CST
ok ..here is another topic ...I think a bit more challenging
when is it considered to be an entrance to a room ... for instance if a slave enters and posts, but leaves is that an instance that she needs to beg exit from?
Cavy 20:07:30 pm CST
if she wasnt granted access then she never entered the tavern
nese{GS} 20:07:35 pm CST
girl head tilts
Nerius 20:08:18 pm CST
well just saying she did...said oops and left...is that a proper exit?
Cavy 20:08:37 pm CST
was she granted access?
Deirdre 20:08:46 pm CST
I think that happens sometimes because of a r/t issue.....and maybe the slave (or Free for that matter) just doesn't have the time to type here and has to high-tail it to tend to r/t.
Laroona 20:08:58 pm CST
IMO if it is RTI that should be posted
if it is to change icons then I think no as slave has entered....as soon as one posts IMO Fre or slave they have entered
I think Gary has also been working on tag lines being static...
Ramses 20:09:23 pm CST
from the sounds of it ... that situation was wrong from the very start
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:09:27 pm CST
when a girl begs entry... she has to beg three times without getting a reply before moving onward in the Tavern....
so if after only one.. or even two begs... can she turn and leave without having to beg to leave?
Ramses 20:10:18 pm CST
thats a good point Deidre .... the question then becomes is this a habit? or an isolated instance?
Laroona 20:10:29 pm CST
some rooms permission does not need to be granted
aurora{Ulrich} 20:10:37 pm CST
a post from the Free or slave determines presence...a girl then begs entrance
aliya 20:10:44 pm CST
~slides in and listens~
Nerius 20:11:13 pm CST
ok lets say it wasnt a RTI...she entered and posted...not begging entrance...is that concidered an entry?
Ramses 20:11:55 pm CST
in that case jesse, I would say she does not
Laroona 20:11:59 pm CST
jessenia is correct on the 3 post rule
to enter she can enter or leave
and same for leaving the 3 post rule of 1 minute apart applies
aurora{Ulrich} 20:12:02 pm CST
a girl thinks it begs the question
does it occur repeatedly with the same girl
or was it an isolated incident?
r/t might have tugged her away
aliya 20:12:03 pm CST
If a slave Rp's she is outside the Tavern...then she isn't "in" the Tavern
If it was a mistake that she came in and disappears again..it could be said she was never "in" the Tavern..its a technicality
Ramses 20:12:17 pm CST
to Me, it is an entry Nerius
Cavy 20:12:20 pm CST
Jarl with all due respect did she beg entry and was it granted?.....
Deirdre 20:12:32 pm CST
*nodding to Ramses and shrugging* To be truthful, Advisor, I would consider it an isolated insident even if it happened more than once. I mean......a slave might be a mother of small children in r/t.....those sorts of interuptions happen all the time.....and one cannot help it.
Nerius 20:14:12 pm CST
I see it as an entry..she posted stating her presence...
and I might add it was an isolated incident
but it still a question that needs to be answered
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:14:14 pm CST
but if it were an rti event.. wouldn't it be just as easy to say.. 'sorry.. rti' rather than.. "opps" and leave?
Laroona 20:14:48 pm CST
GS slaves do not need beg entry .. the are kenneled in GS
that is a rule
so this would apply to personal slaves...
Cavy 20:14:54 pm CST
at the end of the day she c
Laroona 20:15:49 pm CST
so if slave posted an entry... then left
she should post RTI it is if I recall in slave rules
Ramses 20:16:08 pm CST
a slave posting ....whether RP'ing inside or outside ... in My opinion has essentially entered .... so o say "ooops" is not really acceptable ...personally I;d understand an RTI though
aliya 20:16:11 pm CST
Perhaps she clicked into the wrong room
Nerius 20:16:17 pm CST
wait...hold up
she only entered and posted....there was no RTI stated..and this is only a question
Cavy 20:17:04 pm CST
Jarl at the end of the day she didnt beg entry I asked the other Free who was there and because I questioned it you brought it up here....Ive taken back My pledge because of this petty bullshit....lara goto DM
Laroona 20:17:08 pm CST
if clicking the wrong room she should beg to leave and say she entered by error....
most are not ogres
Ramses 20:18:01 pm CST
nods in agreement with Laroona
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:18:23 pm CST
with all due respect... perhaps the rules on such an issue is all that's trying to be figured out so they're known in the future
lara{CY_S} 20:18:32 pm CST
raises her hand as this just happened to her...if it was her in question, she was not ganted entrance as the Master and His girl were leavin so lara posted goin back to the Piazza as her favorite Mistress was there and had whispered to her..but she could of left wrong as she didnt see Anyone else talkin beside Those that left but she was at fault for not lookin at the bottom of the page to see if any Otheres were in the room..
Laroona 20:18:51 pm CST
Cavy you are thin skinned
this is a general question not posed to any as I understand it
Nerius 20:18:53 pm CST
shakes my head...
Symbian 20:19:17 pm CST
Even early on boy45 begged entrance I told him Nay only collars are allowed in
aurora{Ulrich} 20:19:18 pm CST
what is wrong with discussing anything here?
why does it have to seem accusatory or
bring about tension and discord?
Nerius 20:19:34 pm CST
yes jesse thats correct
Laroona 20:20:29 pm CST
Symbian he could have entered and been collared LOL
aurora{Ulrich} 20:20:49 pm CST
but lara, you know better
~smiles at the beauty~
Symbian 20:21:07 pm CST
LOL Laroona He could chucks
lara{CY_S} 20:21:59 pm CST
aurora yes lara does know better, but she still doesnt know if Any where in the room or came in after she turned and left..
Laroona 20:22:37 pm CST
lara did any here chastise you?
lara{CY_S} 20:22:51 pm CST
yes she was in whispers Mistress Laroona
Nerius 20:23:07 pm CST
lara....
I am not displeased...I thought we had cleared the error up...I brought it up for clarification purposes only
Laroona 20:23:58 pm CST
hmmm lara was not me heeeeee
lara{CY_S} 20:24:59 pm CST
and Master Nerius lara agrees it was but she would like it cleared up and not fighten about she just stated a few things as it was her fault for not lookin at the bottom to see if any where in or not...
lara{CY_S} 20:25:45 pm CST
gigglin..no Mistress You always speak in the room when lara has done wrong and then teach her correctly
aliya 20:25:50 pm CST
~slips out~
Nerius 20:26:01 pm CST
So back to the question at hand
Symbian 20:26:03 pm CST
Whilst I think of it
A problem has a risen from a young girl whom I gave the O collar three weeks back
is now going in the Tavern with a different Name just to observe more.I did give her the riot act but she still reoffends and on cases goes running for protection to other Free
What would you do
Laroona 20:26:42 pm CST
Ok so lets be clear
entering forum is need to greet .. especially if it has started
and ppl are in and out some times like yo yo's at Forums
Laroona 20:27:10 pm CST
hey or privately lara heeeeee
Ramses 20:27:48 pm CST
back from My own RTI
lara{CY_S} 20:27:56 pm CST
now lara would never do it on purpose...and with Master Nerius bringin it to her attention and in here she will be careful as to pay attention to leavin
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:28:21 pm CST
so is entering and begging to begging to be allowed in once considered a valid "entrance" at least.... and a girl shouldn't leave until after 3 tries? or unless an rti occurs?
lara{CY_S} 20:28:52 pm CST
sorry gotta run Master is callin
alika 20:29:13 pm CST
smiles softly toward Master Ramses as i hurry to try to catch up on the discussion at hand
Ramses 20:29:31 pm CST
jesse ..yes I think thats true
Laroona 20:29:53 pm CST
jessenia I think the 3 post rule applies.... entering or leaving...
Nerius 20:30:10 pm CST
nods in agreement with jesse
Ramses 20:30:11 pm CST
Symbian .. lets try to close this topic out
OriginalSandman 20:30:19 pm CST
GS girls need not ask to enter
non-GS owned girls need to ask.
if the girl doesnt actually post entering then they are outside the tavern
Symbian 20:30:53 pm CST
nods aye Ramses
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:30:59 pm CST
aye Mistress.... but jesse thinks the "grey area" here is if she's considered as "technically entered" if she at least begs once... .can she just turn around and leave after only begging the one time?? unless it's an rti?
OriginalSandman 20:31:14 pm CST
if a RTI occurs it is preferable,, courtesy that it be posted,, but sometimes Rt doesnt allow
alika 20:31:30 pm CST
i thought one had to have permission to enter before entering or risk being collared ?
Nerius 20:31:44 pm CST
so if I leap into a used alcove and I post..."excuse Me" is that like I wasnt there at all?
aurora{Ulrich} 20:32:14 pm CST
she posted she was leaving...
lol, no entrance, no beg to enter
Ramses 20:32:32 pm CST
*L* thats alwyas true alika, but in this case I think we are talking about a collared slave
nese{GS} 20:32:36 pm CST
nese finally getting this discussion smiles
OriginalSandman 20:33:15 pm CST
normally one posts they enter before they are considered to have entered
alika 20:33:36 pm CST
i must have misunderstood Master Sandmans post then
hushes up and stays in the shadows listening
Laroona 20:35:28 pm CST
reposts the question
when is it considered to be an entrance to a room ... for instance if a slave enters and posts, but leaves is that an instance that she needs to beg exit from?
Laroona 20:37:02 pm CST
that tells me she has entered
and leaves without posting AFK, RTI
if she just up and leaves... bad form
if wrong room
slave only has to say sorry she begs to depart she entered the wrong room...
then all are clear
OriginalSandman 20:37:10 pm CST
if the slave actually posts entrance, she should beg to leave if there is a Free present
aurora{Ulrich} 20:37:13 pm CST
if she was not allowed to enter *L
she never entered
a post determines her presence
Ramses 20:37:49 pm CST
I think with slaves its gets tricky Sandman .... as they have to beg entry at times ... so really ...I think ...the question really is ... is it considered rude for a slave to disappear after posting in a room?
aurora{Ulrich} 20:37:50 pm CST
true Master Sandman *s
OriginalSandman 20:38:17 pm CST
and yes leaving without asking is bad form
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:38:50 pm CST
exactly aurora.. .so can she just say "oops" and leave?
Laroona 20:39:12 pm CST
LOL aurora if she begs to enter even and finds oops wrong room she can still say opps wrong room she needs to depart this room please *S*
saves Free saying "enter and greet"
Free could say yes go....
OriginalSandman 20:40:06 pm CST
it is best for the slave to ask ,, if there is a Free in the room .. if there is no Free,, well the rule about trees in the forrest comes to mind
aurora{Ulrich} 20:40:19 pm CST
no,she was wrong
why post anything
if one thought no one was present?
if a GS girl behaved in such manner
she would be punished
Laroona 20:40:55 pm CST
LOL no one
Free or slave would know why slave posted entry and then poofed..
comes down to a guessing game LOL
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:40:58 pm CST
*nods*
Nerius 20:41:57 pm CST
maybe I need to clear this up...the slave did not beg entrance....but posted anyway...should she have begged exit?
Ramses 20:42:30 pm CST
Nerius, I would say yes ...
Nerius 20:42:56 pm CST
looks to Ramses...thank You
Laroona 20:44:28 pm CST
IMO a slave of long standing should know''
a GS slave would have been posted and punished if she tried that caper...
even entering without permission by a personal slave is required....
not a GS slave..
how I am reading it is the posting and leaving without permission
Nerius 20:45:14 pm CST
yes Laroona exactly
Laroona 20:46:07 pm CST
nodding thanks Nerius that is how I was taking the question to read *S*
Ramses 20:47:17 pm CST
ok ... are we ready to move on from this one?
Nerius 20:47:30 pm CST
nods
OriginalSandman 20:48:00 pm CST
nodding
Deirdre 20:48:20 pm CST
*grinning*
I think we have beat that mule to death at this point.
Ramses 20:48:24 pm CST
hold on ..I had another topic ..let me go find it
Ramses 20:49:17 pm CST
ok .. that did not work
whisper Me with any topics
Laroona 20:50:20 pm CST
Ramses was it the on from Symbian?
Ramses 20:51:43 pm CST
Symbian ... if you are still here please repost your question
O COLLAR BEING ABUSED
Laroona 20:52:55 pm CST
Reposting
Symbian 20:26:03 pm CST
Whilst I think of it
A problem has a risen from a young girl whom I gave the O collar three weeks back
is now going in the Tavern with a different Name just to observe more.I did give her the riot act but she still reoffends and on cases goes running for protection to other Free
What would you do
Ramses 20:54:29 pm CST
ok .. there it is .. lets go with it
any thoughts?
Ramses 20:55:15 pm CST
clearly ,taken at face, value this would be a case of dualling
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:55:22 pm CST
not to doubt anyone's word... but first it should be made sure it's indeed the same girl..
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:55:39 pm CST
in jesse's opinion.. *quickly adds*
OriginalSandman 20:56:17 pm CST
provif she is just entering with a new name ,, then she would be subject to collaring
lynn {SY} 20:56:20 pm CST
well isn't it somewhat hard to just keep anyone say from passing through any chat room,sites?
Laroona 20:56:48 pm CST
one would need to be 100% certain it was the same girl
'if she wanted extra time she would need to contact Council as others have in the past....
but I would say there is a limit to how many weeks in an O collar
if that expires run the risk of being force collared..
Symbian 20:56:53 pm CST
Aye Im still here
and to answer jess question she opened admitted it to me
Ramses 20:57:08 pm CST
ahhh ...given that proviso of course ..that it can be proven
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:57:31 pm CST
then that would definitely prove it Master.. ~smiles softly~
alika 20:57:49 pm CST
or do like i do and be careful where i enter, true its very limiting most of the time .. but i use one name only
jessenia{Rm}~t ~complete devotion~ 20:59:00 pm CST
if then it's the girl that jesse is thinking about.. she's seen some really nasty remarks made by her as well
Ramses 20:59:26 pm CST
if you are certain Symbian then you should advise the Council ...and collar her on sight next time
Symbian 20:59:34 pm CST
nods
I didnt know that Laroona
But from what I learnt from her is that she has no interest of being a GS slave or personal owned
told her also about the No kill rooms but yet she still goes to the Tavern LOL
OriginalSandman 21:00:05 pm CST
sounds like a girl looking for a force collar in RP
Laroona 21:00:13 pm CST
if it is the same girl then post her LOL
and let council decide
Ramses 21:01:12 pm CST
alika, that is as it should be
Laroona 21:01:53 pm CST
LOL would not be the first or last banned for gaming in GS
Symbian 21:03:25 pm CST
nods Sandman
I even tried My merchants right of capture on her
Laroona 21:04:08 pm CST
alika you know how and where to go...
that is different *S*
if this one just wants to play hide and seek well we can play too LOL
alika 21:04:43 pm CST
giggles softly
aye alika keeps her neck free so far
Laroona 21:06:41 pm CST
heee any free can capture her and bind her to the post.... and slap steel around her neck..see how long she r/ps that out....
Ramses 21:06:43 pm CST
*L*
bare necks are highly overrated, alika ..hehehehe
Ramses 21:08:03 pm CST
ok all
My time for tonight has expired ....
I wish you all well
Deirdre 21:08:29 pm CST
Thank You for moderating, Ramses.....*S*
Laroona 21:08:31 pm CST
Ramses thanks for Moderating