ANNOUNCEMENTS - Market Bazaar & Slave Dancing Night
Xertog 20:25:47 CST
Tuesday August 15th 7:30 PM GS time / Central North American Time will be
the Grand Opening of the new room.
Xertog 20:30:46 CST
While I'm waiting for topic here is another announcement:
The Council has scheduled another Dance night for Wednesday August 29th
7:00PM GS time / Central North American time. The dancing will be taking
place in the tavern. FW will be allowed to enter the tavern but know there
may be heat on display.
If time permits perhaps an improvised group dance like what was done at the
festival could be done.
One or two slave classes between now and then will focus on dancing. Look
for updates here and on the slave board. Also some helpful information on
dancing can be found here:
http://www.angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/kajirainfo/kajirainfo.html
Xertog 19:31:44 CST
Lets start tonight's forum.. Regular rules apply.. Keep the greetings and other talk to PMs. It makes the scribing job a lot easier.. Thank you
tesaise for scribing tonight"s forum.. Please whisper topics to me.
PAYMENT FOR SERVICES
Xertog 19:38:10 CST
TOPIC:::: is GS becoming a charity of late, as many are not paying for
serves?
how does or can a slave ask for payment of services?
or should free lead the way? ie like paying for a serve etc?
Sandman_Bldr/Advisor 19:39:35 CST
raising my eyebrow.. and frowning ,, wondering if the ones not paying don't know or don't care
Mordecai 19:40:32 CST
*chimes in* If there are other Pledged Members they should be the first to act- to speak up. If They fail to act I think it would alright for the slave
(if owned by GS) to whisper to the Pledged Patron to remind them to speak up. If there are no Patrons around then the slave should remind the receiver of the services
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 19:41:14 CST
tela was told in training.. to perhaps offer politely to take their payment to the box... or post something to the effect of.... "moistening her lips in
preparing to accept his payment".... she recently offered politely to take Ones payment and was politely ignored.. and being just a slave.. she felt it
not her place to force the issue
emerald{Rm} 19:41:26 CST
em does not think it would be proper for a slave to ask a Master to pay for His drink....
Laroona 19:41:46 CST
the menu has prices listed, so no excuse for nay not knowing
I think it is more of not caring'
the exceptions to payments are Captains and Council members, and Captain Emeritus
also water is free
MDK}_~His_'laise~ 19:42:59 CST
em.. is it ok to offer to take the payment??
Laroona 19:43:16 CST
LOL the other night several were in the Piazza so I offered to pay and paid the slave after that every serve was paid for LOL
so that to me is one way a free can give them a nudge
bahi{RD} 19:44:44 CST
agrees with em.. it isn't a slaves place to make sure Free do what their supposed to.. other than to offer maybe.. maybeeee..a subtle hint IF the
Free person is new to GS and might not be aware
Mordecai 19:45:26 CST
*nods* I agree - it is for the Free to Remind others...but I like the way telaise phrased her post for the Free who is either ignorant or doesn't care
Laroona 19:45:46 CST
also a paga tavern the price of the paga includes the use of the slave...
the main question is how do slaves ask
should she say as an example:
"Master with utmost respect the Council requires payment to be made to this girl after service, your xxxx drink/food will be xxxxx *smiling*
roni{GS} 19:46:45 CST
roni saw one of her sister give a good example of reminding a Free for payment...
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 19:47:36 CST
has the Council ever thought of talking to the webmaster about making a link in the Piazza and Tavern that goes to the menu?? many new people who come doesn't know there is a menu... that would give easy access as well as prices
Laroona 19:47:47 CST
it is also on the main page that is linked here::
from the logo at bottom of page::
http://www.gorean-shores.com/gorhome/menu.html
roni{GS} 19:48:27 CST
may tela post is what roni saw one time
to offer to take the payment
Mordecai 19:49:00 CST
*S* I like the idea of a link to the Menu Page. WOuld be very helpful for those visiting our Homestone
The_Skullsplitter 19:49:06 CST
Alright, it is not the link then though to Me it is very badly placed and difficult to find unless you are really studying all of the side, which I imagine might also be difficult for others. Why not have it placed with the rest of the Tavern Sections instead of randomly put in a section which few guests ever bother to read, currently next to the Decisions? I was always under the impression that Captains and Emeritus status never had to pay, I recall that from before My time here, during My time here, and even after My time here, but this is not explained on this Menu, what is the case please so I know for future reference, as it has been a while since I Myself have never paid here.
Laroona 19:49:11 CST
the other option is saying
Master/Mistress may a girl offer you a service from the menu that is here:
http://www.gorean-shores.com/gorhome/menu.html
Laroona 19:51:13 CST
Thorfinn I can add that to the angelfire site
but the other site is under the control of GaryM
Xertog 19:52:27 CST
It's a good idea telaise. I have been trying to get Gary to update the web pages for a some times and more recently to add the new room name to the
Who/Where page. I sent an e mail on both to him today.. Next e mail I'll add the menu link with my requests.
Xertog 19:55:59 CST
JT Captain Emeritus do drink free.
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 19:53:17 CST
Master Xertog.. telaise was just going to offer to ask Him herself.. she's been working with Him on another issue the last two days...
WEB SITE
The_Skullsplitter 19:53:22 CST
All of the Web Site confuses Me, the entire set up they have running here, with Gary able to do this, but not that, GS able to do this, but not that,
the forums, the site, For a web site it is all terribly laid out, things thrown here, there and everywhere, but that is another topic for another time.
Mordecai 19:55:04 CST
I would also add that we need to update the pages of GS. i.e. Contacts for Pledged Patrons etc - I do not see My name there yet
Laroona 19:56:08 CST
Thorfinn what do you mean?
I have just backed up everything on the info site and that took ahns of work... to set it out in a better format
bahi{RD} 19:57:33 CST
curious.. is there anything preventing GS from maintaining their sites on a different hosting venue? One that would be easier accessed and upgradable and wouldn't depend on someone from outside GS to bring current?
Laroona 19:58:25 CST
bahi what do you think we have done of late?
The_Skullsplitter 19:58:47 CST
No offense Laroona, it is better than it was before, but let's talk about that later.
Laroona 19:59:44 CST
we are bound in one aspect by GaryMin another of using Free sites that permit adult content
as in the past having a member paying then the member tosses a hissy fit and the site is pulled....
bahi{RD} 19:59:47 CST
no clue Mistress.. bahi is on blonde ditz tonight
it seemed there was an issue mentioned about having to contact Gary to update mentioned
Laroona 20:01:07 CST
Mordecai there IS no contact list maintained any more for security reasons
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 20:02:18 CST
if tela may input...
she thinks there is the option on the registry for the boards... to make ones email available to be seen.... that could be used as a point of
contact.. not to mention the private pm thru the boards as well..
Mordecai 20:03:38 CST
Ahh...understood Laroona. Perhaps We should delete that page then
Xertog 20:03:48 CST
JT we do the best we can with what Gary gives us to work with. He won't host the forum notes, the list of patrons or slaves. Basically anything that
needs constant up dating. He also won't link to those pages either.
Laroona 20:04:26 CST
telaise exactly
if people want their information then registering on the message boards is an option *S*
I know garyM is anti listing on his pages
Laroona 20:06:47 CST
Mordecai that is controlled by GaryM not GS or the scribes
I did post if any have any have any critiques, suggestions email the scribes so they can investigate ..BUT the site IT is limited to how one can set it
up that is one issue I faced and the way it is now is the best solution I could come up with
BUT will listen to critiques
The_Skullsplitter 20:07:31 CST
I realize that Xertog, which is why I suggested talking about it after the forum, because this topic is one everyone could throw shit at all day/night
long.
Mordecai 20:08:37 CST
I applaud your efforts Laroona. And any critiques are not meant personally
PROTOCOLS RULES MARKET BAZAAR
Xertog 20:13:53 CST
Next topic: The zones, protocols and rules, if any, that apply in the Market
Bazzar?
Here is a basic out line of what has been suggested and should be formalized
shortly:
1. No kill / no capture zone
2. Slaves don't need to beg entry or to leave. (They would not be begging to
enter or leave a real market place)
3. Slave greetings: Slaves would NOT * call out * greetings from the other
side of a real market, so they do NOT have to greet EVERY Free that enters.
They only need to greet at the appropriate time as called for by the role
playing be carried out.
No dress codes for girls is being made. How ever your owner wants you
dressed on the streets of Port Kar will be how you are clothed.
The Council is looking to leave most things for this room wide open and see
how it goes and what people do with it.
Any suggestions or feed back?
Mordecai 20:16:19 CST
*reads the Market's rules* Looks good to Me Captain
Laroona 20:16:43 CST
Xertog I would suggest any Free wanting a slave to serve should go to Tavern
or Piazza...
as we may have vendors from other sites,, LOL why lose coin?
bahi{RD} 20:16:55 CST
So.. given the environment.. the serving of drinks and foods would also be more limited them also.. correct Master Xertog? It would be a more open role play environment without carrying that expectation?
Xertog 20:19:22 CST
Yes bahi you are correct. It's a market place not a tavern.
orli_{GS}~t 20:21:03 CST
orli pictures it like a modern day flea market....vendors set up with their tables with tarps or blankets sectioning each one off....plenty of noise....vulo running around...people bartering for goods
Deirdre 20:21:14 CST
*grinning at bahi and nodding*
you bet it could. Lots of opportunities for roleplay that is out of the ordinary for GS
Laroona 20:21:59 CST
I think it could be a lot of fun too and create good r/p
bahi{RD} 20:23:23 CST
~ reaches down and strokes the for now quiet little jit curled close as she
quietly plots!~
Xertog 20:24:08 CST
It will be what we make of it. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.
Sandman_Bldr/Advisor 20:25:41 CST
I look forward to inteaction in the forum,, I have enjoyed theInteraction related to the tarnship for the oar dances and also the intercation with
Loki as I sought supplied to rebuild something for Deirdre's Fathers Holdings
bahi{RD} 20:27:23 CST
Can it be used between now and then Master Xertog
Xertog 20:28:27 CST
bahi I don't see why it couldn't.
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 20:29:14 CST
are we going to ever have a bath place again??
Laroona 20:32:37 CST
is Gary going to alter the background colour form that yukkky blue
I just checked LOL
Mordecai 20:33:01 CST
Looks forward to the dance competition* Was excellent last time
Laroona 20:33:33 CST
telaise I think it was brining back the lugging of a bathtub into the tavern LOL
Xertog 20:34:56 CST
Perhaps telaise. I know when GS was just one room slave rolled out a tub. My
opinion is that such things are better left for a private room.
Laroona 20:35:50 CST
LOL well I ain't carrying it Mordecai LOL
what they used to do was a slave would lug a tub into the tavern and bathe the Free man......
that was when GS was one room at poolside
Xertog 20:38:14 CST
If there is a better background some when can suggest that better fits the
theme of the room I'll pass it onto Gary.
TRAVELING & CAPTURE IN BELIEVED SAFE SITES
Xertog 20:45:38 CST
New Topic:
slaves traveling after visiting Gorean Inn and then lured / misled from there to other sites and captured in others sites? What should slave do,
accept it or not?
Mordecai 20:46:50 CST
If they are stupid enough to travel to another site without protection and enter a capture zone..then they need to abide by it..unless she can find One
to rescue her..buy her etc
Laroona 20:47:45 CST
IMO though slave is slave
but if one is lied to why accept a capture under those conditions...
it is ungorean of any FM to lie
Zoran 20:48:36 CST
agrees with Mordecia
Laroona 20:48:40 CST
but what if told they are safe there and find on entry this is not so
Zoran 20:50:10 CST
I hope they would only follow those the trust Laroona
if they give trust so easy then they deserve there fate
Laroona 20:50:36 CST
more so what if the person luring is a pledged patron of GS?
Mordecai 20:51:30 CST
I agree...the kajira need to be responsible for their own necks..and not go someplace that would threaten it
Mordecai 20:52:12 CST
Then I would think We would decide if We would purchase her back, Challenge for her, or let her stay there
Laroona 20:52:28 CST
why?
when it is one supposed to be of GS?
Zoran 20:55:02 CST
if there of GS and a Pledge then they might have answer for their action but that is up to the Captians
Laroona 20:53:22 CST
is the FM honorable or not honorable in saying 'come to this site I am setting up and then slave is captured...
I think not
Mordecai 20:55:22 CST
I would still hope that our kajira would err on the side of not visiting until they are able to discern the safety first
Laroona 20:55:26 CST
nodding I concur with you there Zoran *S*
~segen~{Ty} 20:56:43 CST
~speaking softly to Master Mordecai~
Everyone in this room has been lied to before. Sometimes even when you think you're safe. You're not
Zoran 20:56:57 CST
it comes down to if they trust the Master they go with hell I hope they would have enough sense
Laroona 20:57:21 CST
exactly segen that is the point I am trying to get at *S*
Mordecai 20:57:42 CST
Then don't go alone...take a Warrior with you *G*
Zoran 20:58:14 CST
hmm wonders how segen can think for me
if I say your protected your protected
~segen~{Ty} 20:59:01 CST
~giggling at Master Mordecai~
Cause there's so many Warriors about? and You have nothing to do but escort slaves to other sites? Nice IDEA but the reality is we outnumber you,
significantly. There isn't enough of you around to be personal bodyguards.
Laroona 20:59:06 CST
they are going with a Warrior of GS
that is the point
Laroona 20:59:59 CST
Zoran and that protection is not honoured?
Mordecai 21:00:00 CST
If you are told the room is a no capture zone..and it is posted..then I would not follow the kolaring
Laroona 21:00:42 CST
but it is a capture room LOL
~segen~{Ty} 21:01:38 CST
Master Mordecai, You're seeing it only black and white and missing the subtle shades of gray. Even i who am damn slick at excaping was nearly force collared and nearly beheaded. It's just not that simple and even worse when there is trust and lies in the mix
Laroona 21:17:58 CST
back sorry folks RT interruptions
thanks Xertog for moderating *S*
thanks telaise for scribing'and folks this opinionated FW will be giving you all a break for a few months LOL
Xertog called Forum to close