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Present:

 

Sandman

Kyoto

Thorrn

Rollo

Dak

Kazar

 

snowrose

galah

hulya

peanut

ruby

shimmer

flicka

 

Rollo the Ax 19:45:25 pm CST

Tal, and greetings everybody........ Us * Aussies * didn't know about you guys and your DST change..... so we have been here an hour already....... 

LOL.. 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 19:53:48 pm CST

The crowd is big, Captains are present, so i open the forum of tonight. 

flicka, you are going to scribe? 

 

Anybody who has a topic to discuss whisper it to Me. 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 19:54:08 pm CST

Yes Jarl Thorrn. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:54:50 pm CST

rising 

measuring staff in hand 

 

Well folks lets get started, if RT calls one of you can take over 

 

Keep the chit chit in whispers and PM me with any topics you have 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:55:11 pm CST

chuckles Thorrn you have the floor sitting down 

 

hulya{GS} 19:55:21 pm CST

*speaks up quietly from her spot huddled next to a wall* ma-may hulya make an... announcement first please Master 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 19:56:07 pm CST

steps back to let the Senior lead the forum *smile* 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 19:56:52 pm CST

I will take over when you ma yhave to leave Sandman 

So i will listen to your wisdom tonight. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:58:17 pm CST

waving for the Musicians to stop the waltz,, as Thorn and I zare going to stop dancing.. standing back up 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 19:58:46 pm CST

~chuckles~ 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:58:58 pm CST

looking to hulya,, of course girl 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 19:59:20 pm CST

dark eyes gaze to huyla..listening to the lovely girl 

 

hulya{GS} 20:01:07 pm CST

*rises and hugs herself, taking a deep breath and keeps her gaze fixed on the floor, voice quiet as she begins* hulya.... wanted all to know that..... there is a big possibility that she has..... skin cancer, she's going to go see a dermatologist tommorrow 

 

Dak 20:02:00 pm CST

I will pray you don't, girl 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:02:18 pm CST

Hears the girl and wishes her that that possibility of skin cancer will turn out as wrong *hugggggggg* 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:02:21 pm CST

~runs to hulya to give her tight hug, whispering in her ear~ 

 

Kyoto_Captain 20:02:29 pm CST

You'll be in my thoughts, girl 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:02:45 pm CST

echoing Dak's words I will also pray it isn't,, and if it is then pray that the Dr's take care of it 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:03:11 pm CST

hulya, flicka hopes that the news tomorrow will be good. A girl's thoughts are with you. 

 

~hugging the girl close~ 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:03:18 pm CST

gasps a deep breath 

huyla, you will be in a girls thoughts and prayers 

 

hulya{GS} 20:03:32 pm CST

hulya hasn't mentioned this before because.... she's been trying to not think about it.... but its still been nawing on girl's mind 

 

Rollo the Ax 20:05:07 pm CST

Hoping the best outcome for the girl..... 

 

shimmer{GS~t~} 20:05:24 pm CST

sends hug to hulya will be praying for you there are many types of skin cancer shimmer has had cancerous moles removed but it had not spread she will be praying for you that it is the non aggressive kind if it is cancer.. lots of prayers,. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:05:33 pm CST

sweet hulya plenty here will be thinking good thoughts or praying for you 

 

hulya{GS} 20:05:56 pm CST

Thank you all, girl is also hoping for the best and will keep everyone up to date when she learns something 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:06:43 pm CST

please let us know hulya 

 

hulya{GS} 20:07:08 pm CST

And this is her first appointment, may get some of the moles biopsied of its needed 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:09:55 pm CST

thank you for sharing hulya 

Folks we have a topic: 

 

why is it that a privately owned slave who is in service to the tavern has to kneel at the tavern door and beg permission so she can finish her chore? 

 

hulya{GS} 20:10:15 pm CST

Good news right now is that skin cancer doesn't run in her family 

 

hulya{GS} 20:10:34 pm CST

Thank you ! MAster 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:11:21 pm CST

That is good news hulya. 

So keep up your mood and be optimistic that the doctors will be able to help you. *S*S* 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:12:27 pm CST

Master Sandman, flicka doesn't quite understand the question. 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:12:55 pm CST

snowrose doesn't understand it either. 

 

Kyoto_Captain 20:13:45 pm CST

Whenever a slave that is privately owned enters the tavern, she must beg permission to do so. 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:13:47 pm CST

it is thought the privately owned girl, is coming from her Masters holdings..not the kennels..thus begs entry 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:14:04 pm CST

The privately owned slave enters a home which is not hers and so she doesn´t have the right to step in until a Free Person allows her to do so. 

she is just a slave and slaves often need to ask for allowance for soemthing. 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:14:28 pm CST

smiles to flicka...if a girl is IN SERVICE to the owners home...say a chore...and she's in the market coming back into the tavern...why is it she must beg entry to finsh the chore she started...when she technically hasnt left the site? 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:14:36 pm CST

Master Sandman finish what chore? 

 

At the moment a privately owned slave must beg permission to enter. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:15:09 pm CST

I think the crux of the question is if a privately owned slave is resuming a tasked started earlier, why should they have to beg entry 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:15:14 pm CST

ah peanut has that ever happened? 

 

Dak 20:15:21 pm CST

personal al slaves must beg entrance even if no one is present, after begging 3 times she may enter, whether it is granted or not, unless that has changed, *shrugs* 

 

galah{RA} 20:15:26 pm CST

yes ruby, it was brought up in slave class, that apparently, even if no one is in the tavern, a personal owned slave must still beg 3 times to enter...to enter an empty tavern? 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:15:42 pm CST

thank you peanut 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:16:04 pm CST

smiles...it doesnt make any sence 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:16:36 pm CST

galah, that is different to the topic as posted. 

 

galah{RA} 20:16:48 pm CST

gal thinks the question would be, if no free is in, why must a slave still beg entrance? 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:16:53 pm CST

we dont beg to enter the tavern comming from the slave kennels 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:17:11 pm CST

why would a privately owned slave be at the market in service to the tavern that would normally be done by a GS slave.. 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:17:27 pm CST

a girl agrees with you galah, that is the topic we were discussing in slave class the other day. 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:17:45 pm CST

no...when there is Free in the tavern and the girl is in the middle of a chore 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:17:46 pm CST

aye galah 

imho....if the girl is at the market...perhaps she should enter through the Piazza....thus no plead would be necessary 

 

Rollo the Ax 20:17:55 pm CST

Okay..... in * MY * opinion, the begging to enter seems counter productive.... and if nobody in inside already to * allow * a slave why the hell should she have to ask at all ????? 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:18:51 pm CST

galah, slaves have to some begging and rituals - because they are slaves. They are not free just to do. 

 

Dak 20:19:14 pm CST

becuz she is slave and someone might enter while she is typing her entry ! 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:19:46 pm CST

looks to mistress snowrose...peanut and marieve did the chore before the festival...your instructions were to go shopping...peanut came back with an armload of veggies and had to stop mid chore to beg entrance...when she feels she should have just entered and finished the chore 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:19:56 pm CST

snow has always thought begging three times seemed excessive...If there is no Free showing, she could beg once, wait a minute or two, then enter... 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:20:39 pm CST

yes as a team...not normally. that happens so seldom 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:21:13 pm CST

It would seem we have two different topics here. 

 

1/ if a slave is in the middle of a chore and returns to the Tavern and a Free Person happens to have entered, should she have to beg entry? 

well even if she is a GS slave slave, she would have to, because she is not coming from the kennels. As to whether or not this would be silly... well... discuss. ~chuckle~ 

 

2/ A privately owned slave always has to beg entry when entering the Tavern cause she doesn't live there, the topic here would be, is it silly to have to do it to an obviously empty room? Discuss, please. 

 

Kyoto_Captain 20:21:34 pm CST

I agree that if no one is inside, then begging to enter is plain silly. I think pausing to look about should be sufficient 

 

galah{RA} 20:22:01 pm CST

yes Jarl Thorrn, girls have plenty of opportunity to beg, the beg to serve, the begging to be forgiven if they have wronged, but to beg to no one when no free are in? just personal slaves waiting at the door for many ehns as each time to beg entrance is to have a time set between, so one could be there a good ten ehns just begging an empty tavern? 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:22:42 pm CST

no, a GS slave doesn't ever have to beg to enter, even if she has been away on an errand...just make an entering post 

 

Rollo the Ax 20:23:00 pm CST

in the past, there have been WAYYYYYYYYY too many times that I have seen slaves kneel at the door asking to enter, and the free that are there are too involved with their own * actions * to bother granting it..... so what happens ?? the slave feels like * Hey, why bother ??? * and GS loses slaves...... and as for private slaves, they will take their being ignored back to their Master and we have TWO people pissed off......... WHY ???????? 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:23:01 pm CST

A slave having to beg for some things is a kind of controlling her, making her feel that she is not free but a slave. So it is not just a question of what needs to be done. 

A slave has to beg -that is an order and a slave has to follow orders. 

she doesn´t need to understand, just to do *l* 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:23:25 pm CST

galah and flicka are particularly sensitive to the begging entry three times to an empty room. The time zone we are in, often makes for a dearth of Masters within the Tavern, not many are up and active at 3.00 am. 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:24:30 pm CST

looks to Master Rollo...exactly! 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:24:41 pm CST

hmmm mistress snowrose, that is interesting, cause the reason given for GS slave to NOT have to beg entry is because they are already on the premises so to speak, but if they have been out and about shopping, then ergo, they are not already on the premises. 

 

Kyoto_Captain 20:25:04 pm CST

I agree with Rollo, it seems ludicrous to have a slave beg entry to a pubic room such as the tavern. 

 

Dak 20:25:33 pm CST

this from slave rules 

 

All slaves on the Gorean Shores chain entering from the kennels, need not beg to enter, but should post an entry and ask permission to leave. Personally owned slaves or slaves without a collar must beg for permission to enter Gorean Shores upon their knees, with their foreheads to the floor. (See the positions prostrate/tile/and obeisance) and the very first words a slave should utter are a request to enter the tavern. However, if a slave asks three times to enter, at least one ehn apart, and fails to receive a response, she may enter the tavern. This rule is similar to the three post exit rule. Personally owned girls that are heeling their Owner into the Gorean Shores rooms do not need to beg entrance, but their Owner should mention that their slave is heeling them in, on a leash, on their shoulder, etc. and the girl should post her entrance. 

 

hulya{GS} 20:25:52 pm CST

*nods in agreement with Master Rollo, finally surfacing from her tidal wave of pms* girl can definately see Your point Master 

 

Rollo the Ax 20:26:56 pm CST

So the way it looks to me, a GS owned slave need not beg to enter, but private slaves do ?? do that not also make it look like tavern slaves are more important to GS or have more rights ?? WHY ?? a pledged patrons slave is not as welcome ????? 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:27:09 pm CST

~smiling~ well Master Dak, we have Three Captains here, ~low chuckle~ a perfect opportunity to have the rules amended if They feel it is relevant to do so. 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:27:40 pm CST

since snowrose has been here GS slaves have not had to beg entry...they live here...we personal slaves live elsewhere..When she was made fg she was told not to beg to enter only because she works for the tavern in that capacity.. 

 

not that it matters, but she agrees about begging to an empty room, but it is the rule 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:28:04 pm CST

a GS slave doesn´t have to bneg entry becasue the tavern is part of her home and she has general allowance to enter her home. she evens needs to come back home after finishing any errand or task, she is supposed to be soemwhere else without allowance for lerisure time and strolling in the city. 

 

a perosnally owned slave has her home at her Master´s holdings. 

 

Dak 20:28:16 pm CST

theoretically, becuz they re housed there, personally owned slaves are NOT! 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:28:42 pm CST

Master Rollo girl doubts highly that her Jarl would be angered at His slut being ignored...she's a slave..she needs patience. 

 

Rollo the Ax 20:29:21 pm CST

That is why the question is being raised here, Dak..... those rules.... the Council is here and if they get enough feed back from the members THEY can change or amend them...... 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:29:30 pm CST

Rolo exactly 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:30:06 pm CST

doesnt make sense too Beg too enter a empty tavern 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:30:18 pm CST

peanut thinks that in any other cercumstance a privately owned slave should follow the rules set forth,. but to beg entry when in service to the tavern seems awful stupid to her 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:31:45 pm CST

smiling to Rollo the rule predates my presence here.. but other rules have been changed in that time,, this one can certainly be put before the Council for examination and a vote 

 

Rollo the Ax 20:32:05 pm CST

Hey, yáll can keep or change any rules you want...... 

 

Dak 20:32:23 pm CST

I think that rule was instituted, for the case, a Free may be sitting there doing something else, and timeout in the active list, but as soon as they post, they are there ! 

 

Kyoto_Captain 20:33:23 pm CST

But if a free person times out, then they can be considered not there for the sake of entry. 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:33:30 pm CST

In all the time that flicka's Jarl has been pledged to Gorean Shores, never once has flicka been ignored in the entranceway when she is begging entry. Sometimes a Master is a little slow, but usually that is because He is busy. And as we all agree a slave's role is to be patient, ~low chuckle~ and flicka is the epitome of patience as we all know. Not. 

 

Once more flicka's gripe is begging entry to an obviously empty room. 

 

However one thing that is important to flicka's mind is that a slave must NEVER just flit in and out without making a post, whether it be privately owned or Tavern slave. it looks very very bad for for our Home. 

 

shimmer{GS~t~} 20:33:47 pm CST

privately owned slaves are way more loved than GS slaves. but that is not the point. shimmer does think it is silly that privately owned slaves have to beg entry if they started a chore in the tavern then left to go somewhere in the site ie the market their hands would be full they should be able to go to the kitchen put it down then if a Free has entered the Tavern while she was gone then she should beg entrance if no one is in the tavern they should be able to finish the chore like the GS slaves do. 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:33:48 pm CST

Kazar, begging even when no Free is around is an expression of respect the slave shows the place where the Free usually gather. Rites like begging are not only for practical reasons but also for symbolic reason and to show respect. 

 

Dak 20:34:26 pm CST

they may not know they timedout, for the safety of the slave it is better she does an entry and begs ! 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:34:31 pm CST

peanut 

curious 

why did you not enter through the piazza?..from the market 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:35:31 pm CST

In normal circumstances, they wouldn't be going to the market for the tavern. 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:35:58 pm CST

smiles to shimmer thankful someone got it 

 

Dak 20:36:43 pm CST

true if she has been there ding a chore provided she posted an entry before, she shouldn't have to, but if she didn't previously do the entry,, it might create a quandary ! 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:37:03 pm CST

ruby it doesnt matter where you enter...the kitchen is located in the tavern 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:37:38 pm CST

Master Dak, many many times when flicka comes to the Tavern, Your name is showing on the list, but You are not in the Tavern, as the rules are stated, flicka begs entry, she does this three times. With no response of course, because You cannot see her begging entry. Is this the circumstance of which You are speaking? 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:38:27 pm CST

yikes..blinks 

girl believes the kitchen can be entered from the Piazza..is girl wrong? 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:39:00 pm CST

look at the map...smiles 

 

Dak 20:40:33 pm CST

no, occasionally, some will come in and while their time waiting to see if a slave comes and sharpen knives or swords, or repair equipmentso may not have posted recently 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:42:04 pm CST

~nods~ Master Dak, in that instance a Master is within the Tavern unless of course His sharpening was several ahn ago. 

 

shimmer{GS~t~} 20:42:07 pm CST

shimmer guesses one could say having gotten her items from the market the slave enters from the kennels and up into the kitchen as any slave can enter from the kennels 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:42:50 pm CST

mistress 

 

there is a door leading into the kitchen from the Piazza..right? 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:43:36 pm CST

The kennels have only one way in and out shimmer...no exit on the street. 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:43:50 pm CST

no ruby 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:43:55 pm CST

flicka is a hopeless map reader, but here is the url of the site map. angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/gsinfo/descrip.html 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:44:00 pm CST

technically the trap door is located in the kitchen from the kennels...but thats not the way we came in 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:44:28 pm CST

nods to shimmer, the slave just mentioning that she returns from an errand will clear doubts if she had already begged for the entrance and she must not be scolded for having forgotten to do so. 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:44:28 pm CST

but there is one big oversight on the drawn map, and that is that the green door was left out 

 

Dak 20:44:30 pm CST

true, but His name will be in the room list 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:44:41 pm CST

girls got the map pulled up 

 

shimmer{GS~t~} 20:44:49 pm CST

rolls eyes in confusion oh boy oh boy ohh boy... now shimmer is confused 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:44:56 pm CST

it looks to flicka from this map that there is actually no way into the Tavern, but as flicka said she and maps are speaking a foreign language. 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:45:21 pm CST

no its not... 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:45:38 pm CST

Master Dak, with respect once You have hit Post/reload once, His name will disappear. 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:45:44 pm CST

really mistress 

 

so in order to serve the Piazza..one leaves the Tavern door...garbs a camsik...then serves 

 

makes no sense 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:45:51 pm CST

no, peanut, the trapdoor is to the old kennels below the kitchen, long out of use 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:46:11 pm CST

peanut see's the green door and the 2 steps leading down into the tavern...on the map 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:46:26 pm CST

oh that is a relief mistress snowrose, ~chuckling~ flicka thought shat she was going to have to click her ruby slippers from now on in order to gain entry. 

 

Rollo the Ax 20:46:41 pm CST

I am sorry folks but mostly what I see here * what ifs * and examples of way out actions ...... and people trying hard to not change or improve ..... beg to enter, beg to leave, beg if you time out, beg if you see or do not see a free there...... ???? 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:46:45 pm CST

girl knows that mistress...thats why she came into the front door 

 

hulya{GS} 20:47:12 pm CST

*giggles at flicka and shimmer* 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:47:49 pm CST

oh well...sits back...girl leaves it to the Free to decide 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:48:44 pm CST

When i, a FRee, enter My home or the Tavern, which is alos the home pledged Free, than i don´t ask for allowance to enter. When i go to visit with a friend at His home i knock (kindly) at His door and wait for the "come in" . That is a kind of begging permisison to enter - why, because it is not My home. 

 

It is similar for personally owned slaves and the tavern. 

One doesn´t just step into a home, the tavern is a home for the pledged patrons. 

 

hulya{GS} 20:48:54 pm CST

Well Master... girl has had one idea... if she may on how to chance it to make the beg to enter not so tedious, and also keeps it respectful for visiting slaves 

 

shimmer{GS~t~} 20:49:55 pm CST

The Piazza Located next to a set of doors leading from the great tavern to the Piazza, where one will find it is partly covered by a large canopy. The access to the training yard, streets and markets lead from the Piazza. There are ample furs strewn about for patrons to relax, with some tables next to several sets of furs. These are nearest the walls of the tavern so patrons are afforded the views of the canals and of any danger which may come from that area. The slave mats are near the entry to the kitchen, and near the cool room doors. A set of three cages are at the far right and near the tavern doors, where slaves cant be contained. A firepit is centrally located with kettles over the pits the same as that of the tavern. The open air provides enough lighting for all to see everything surrounding them. The piazza is a safe haven for all and where the Free Women can be located. A fountain trickles near the entrance. This is a no kill / no capture area. 

 

from the description it sounds like the piza has its own kitchen but is near the tavern 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:50:08 pm CST

or you could have come in through the piazza, peanut, into the tavern, and to the kitchen 

 

Kyoto_Captain 20:50:31 pm CST

But we don't ask visiting free to "knock" on the door, it's still just a paga tavern in Port Kar 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:50:38 pm CST

Jarl Thorrn, by what You have just said, if a slave's Master is pledged, The Tavern is His home and therefore a personally owned slave would not need to beg entry. But a slave visiting from elsewhere, or belonging to a Master who is not pledged would have to beg entry. 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:52:16 pm CST

aye mistress 

that is what ruby was getting at...then no begging required..thought girl was losing her mind....needs a gps placed on this slut 

 

Rollo the Ax 20:53:22 pm CST

My position or feelings on this basic topic is this :: slaves do need rules and such.... but to be required to do silly or un-necessary actions does nothing to teach them the meaning of their slavery..... hell lets face it, no single slave would be here unless they wanted to do so..... they do not find their * slave heart * by begging to go or do places.... they learn it from MASTERS !!!!! TRUE Masters, not wanna be nut jobs.... 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:53:29 pm CST

The slave mats are near the entry to the kitchen, and near the cool room doors. A set of three cages are at the far right and near the tavern doors, 

 

thank you shimmer 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:53:52 pm CST

shakes my head... 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:54:05 pm CST

So it is Kyoto - for Free persons and tavern slaves. 

For personally owned slaves it is the rule to beg for the entry - because they are slaves. 

I don´t see the need to beg again after an errnad, just mention that the slave returns, no matter though which door or mouse hole she crawled in. 

 

shimmer{GS~t~} 20:55:07 pm CST

for once shimmer is glad she is a tavern slut 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:55:32 pm CST

Brother Thorrn my time here is at an end,, please take over,,, 

I wish all here well.. thanks to everyone for coming to forum 

 

Dak 20:55:49 pm CST

The Tavern is not a home, Port Kar is the Home to the pledged Patrons , the Tavern is a business ! 

 

Rollo the Ax 20:56:25 pm CST

Restricting enter only serves to make the place look elite.... and that was not the intent when the doors where opened..... everybody welcome until they prove themselves not worthy.... 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:57:07 pm CST

Be well Bro Sandman 

Have a good week 

 

peanut~{Lita} 20:59:57 pm CST

angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/gsinfo/descrip.html 

 

thats the map peanut see's 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:01:55 pm CST

Any further point in this which didn´t get mentioned yet? 

If not the topic got discussed enough to extract the different opionons and put them to the Council and have the Captains to think about the entry-begging and may be change the ruels which are now valid. 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:01:56 pm CST

peanut that is the map that flicka has also, but understands it is at odds with the description layout, perhaps we slaves can thrash it out at slave class, and give an integrated map/description to the Captains. 

 

peanut~{Lita} 21:02:43 pm CST

agree's the maps need updating for sure 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:02:58 pm CST

thinks that is an insightful idea ..flicka 

 

hulya{GS} 21:03:54 pm CST

Agreed flicka 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:04:15 pm CST

I admit i never compared the map so directly with the description, knowing that in case needed i can walk through virtual walls . 

 

peanut~{Lita} 21:05:09 pm CST

giggles @ Jarl Thorrn 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:05:27 pm CST

~laughs~ Jarl Thorrn, shall we call You The Ghost Who walks ie; The Phantom? or Superman? He too could walk through walls or so flicka understands from her sneak reading of her Jarl's Urthen comics. 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:05:52 pm CST

Jarl Thorrn stole the thought right from rubys mind..chuckles 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:06:41 pm CST

That's not the map that snow has always seen...it doesn't show the dais even 

 

Rollo the Ax 21:07:41 pm CST

Well, if there is some kind of problem with the maps nobody ever told me about them...... seeing as I am the one that drew them so many years ago....... 

 

peanut~{Lita} 21:08:21 pm CST

dais is in the upper left corner at the moment, who knows where it'll be tomorrow 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:08:29 pm CST

not a problen, just never have seen that one 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:08:42 pm CST

Isn´t there in the Happy Potter books a cap or soemthing like that which lets HP walk throught walls? 

SO i vote for using such cap *l* 

 

Besides that, a good idea for slave class flicks, to make that comparision and point out differences berween map and description and correct thta. 

 

hulya{GS} 21:09:14 pm CST

*giggles as she tries to think of a new Native American name for Jarl* 

 

Rollo the Ax 21:09:58 pm CST

I must be going now, but I will look over all the maps before I come back to see if I can find what the problem is........ be well, all......... 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:11:24 pm CST

Master Rollo 

when You designed the map 

was there a door to the kitchen from the Piazza? 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:11:46 pm CST

ooops..not fast enough 

 

peanut~{Lita} 21:12:41 pm CST

ruby, good question...peanut doesnt see one 

 

Dak 21:13:06 pm CST

here is the addy to the layouts 

angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/gsinfo/descrip.html 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:13:52 pm CST

when girl took her training from aurora..there was indeed a door..or ruby would of been corrected for sure 

 

peanut~{Lita} 21:14:17 pm CST

oh peaznuts mind has blown a gasket...to bad it wasnt a cock! 

 

night Aall! 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:16:57 pm CST

girl thank Master Sandman for leading, and her Master for taking over 

 

thank you for scribing flicka 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:18:28 pm CST

~having already thanked Master Sandman in her own little way, flicka trots over to Jarl Thorrn and hugs Him long and hard, thanking Him for taking over forum.~ 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:19:21 pm CST

Who closed the forum, snowrose? 

*astonished look, i must have gone old because i don´t tememebr that i did so* 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:19:56 pm CST

Forums closed?.. listens 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:20:22 pm CST

oh, she was thanking because she was going to be leaving my Master...she wasn't closing it 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:21:21 pm CST

oooops and flicka thanked because mistress snowrose did and flicka always obeys the first girl. ~chuckling~ 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:21:24 pm CST

not that it doesn´t look like it is a good time to close forum for toniight before everyone gets lost in trap doors and while walking through virtual walls, but is not yet the matter of the fg to close the forum as long as s Free is still aorund. 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:22:05 pm CST

if we believe that will you tell us another flicka ~laughs~ 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:22:31 pm CST

she must go to r/t for a short while my Master 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:22:37 pm CST

~chuckling as her nose grows longer and longer.~ 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:24:15 pm CST

Seems to be a funny forum tonight *l* 

 

Is there another topic to discuss? 

If not i will close fourm. 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:25:33 pm CST

Jarl Thorrn 

nothing more from this mere one 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:25:48 pm CST

~evil little giggle, flicka runs to Jarl Thorrn, slipping into the warm spot that mistress snowrose has vacated, tucking an arm around His neck and whispering a sweetness into His ear~ 

 

Thank You Jarl Thorrn. 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:26:07 pm CST

smiles to ruby who knows to be quiet *chuckles and blows the girl a kiss* 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:27:55 pm CST

grabs flicka and wrpas a furry bear arm around her ..... mmmmmm 

A good idea, to make slaves mostly run around naked *grin*

 

Thank you for scribing flicka 

 

Thank you to all takers of tonight for talking and discussing. 

Forum is closed for tonight 

 

flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:28:01 pm CST

~chuckling ~ ruby, such a good girl you are. 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:29:37 pm CST

thank You Jarl Thorrn..blows a kiss 

 

flicka for scribing 

 

departs to warm my Master, slumbering in His furs 

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