GENERAL TALK HOW TO IMPROVE GS
Ulrich Ok I've been informed we indeed do have a scribe, so I'll call the forum to order. Remember the rules. For the scribes sake, keep greetings and crosstalk to whispers. Now, if anyone has a topic they wish to discuss, whisper it to me and well get things moving.
Ulrich OK the first topic that has been brought to my attention is white silks in the tavern. It seems we have some new girls that don't quite understand the rules.
Has this been a problem?
curves_GS outed she grins sheepishly "well Master, i was going off the homepage linked to the entrance, didn't know a white silk wasn't allowed in the tavern"
Laroona Ulrich with all respect this is becoming a trend of late it is collar and no information given I have been one to inform newly collared the rules, 'the web site and message board location etc etc if they take time to collar at least take time to inform the slave of the rules I am sure the Free are not going to be punished.... but the slave could be
galah{GS} hhmmmmmmmm, with so few that come around gs, shouldn't and couldn't that rule be changed? that rule was made when gs had enough ppl for all these rooms but it seems very slow now....white silks would still serve and kneel in tower and such, but how they gonna learn if they sit in a room alone
Jarl Thornfin If it involves the slave curves, it is My fault, I work 50-60 hour weeks, I had 1 hour to bid on the bitch, I did not explain all of the rules before My next shift.
Laroona and therefore another issue is the lack of GaryM updating his page.... and or not linking the correct pages where the correct information is listed and written
Ulrich aye curves, white silks are not allowed in the tavern without her trainer or a Captain present. It would be a good idea for you and any other new girls to familiarize yourselves with the slave manual.
angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/kajirainfo/kajirainfo.html
Laroona Thorfinn she is not the only one others have been collared and called back to the Tavern and not informed of the rules
Jarl Thornfin Ah well, My mistake, I will take My leave, be well.
galah{GS} and with soooooo few ppl, couldn't the FW rule of being in the tavern be looked at again? it is sooooooooooo rarely a slave is ever used in the open nowdays in the tavern, and if such was going on, it would be for the FW to decide if she really wanted to be there.....galah just thinks we need to regroup into one big happy family **soft shrug** just a thought
curves_GS "yes Master Ulrich"
Laroona galah I tend to agree that is why there is alcoves for as a provision made to go private room as an alcove *S*
Ulrich It sounds like the root of the problem is communication. That is something we can work on to improve.
As far as GaryM, as you know, response/action from him is sporadic at best, so we have to learn to work around issues that involve him until such time he does get around to changes we need.
galah{GS} rules are made to fit situations, but perhaps they need to change to fit the situation as it is now?
Laroona Ulrich a reason the angelefire was made it is kept up to date
(of course the scribes need to know of any changes LOL)))
galah{GS} yes Mistress Laroona, but as Men, they do as they please....and if taking a girl there and then is there wish, then if a FW is not comfortable, then she goes elsewhere......FW are allowed in the tavern on forum day, is there a rule that Masters can't use slaves in the tavern on that day>?
Nerius Magnhild I had put in a scroll to the council to help Xertog in training of GS slaves...peraps I could stand in when there are no captains or trainers available
Laroona galah not to my knowledge and I like you recall when GS was one room
FW just turned their backs..... or FM took slave private here there are options
galah{GS} gal just thinks if we gonna pull gs back together, it needs done by all.....we gotta be like a fine tuned machine, not one with parts falling off?
Ulrich I can take these thoughts to the Council for consideration.
nese thankyou Master Ulrich because one room and noone in it is boring
galah{GS} there are only a few here that remember when GS was only one room.....but wow, what alot of fun we had in those days
zoya{Rm}~t ~nodding with galah, missing the one room tavern~
galah{GS} is there no slave classes anymore?
Laroona very few and yes but there needs to be ppl around who know and understand the rule show to help the newcomers
caitlin{Xg-L} cailtin agrees with you there galah ...it was alot of fun when all were allowed on one room ....much more like family
Ulrich Ok are there any other topics? This one has just about run it's course
Ulrich galah there are still slave classes, but attendance has been down.
That is something else we need to work on.
galah{GS} gal has a dream Mistress Deidre, that it could be like that again, and if gal didn't think it was possible, she wouldn't be back here again
Laroona galah only way would be to move back to poolside and maybe have one room added off it... for forums maybe I do not know I am at a loss
nese nese would like that
Laroona nese all need to start somewhere and many of us did
Deirdra sweet galah.....A worthy dream.....I will dream with you....and try not to be such a Realist. *smiling softly*
Ulrich That's a good attitude galah. If it was before, it can be again, if we'll all pull together and make it so. Worry less about finding ways to pick others apart, and more about ways to pull them together.
Laroona if people came to the site and r/pd it would be great
a dream many share.,.,..
Symbian aye Laroona I agree with there
galah{GS} **claps vigourously for the Captain and the others that are saying the same** yeahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! lets do it!!!!!!!
Ulrich I'm baffled by the fact that everyone can come to forum and talk about how they wish for more role play... but it doesn't happen. What is preventing the roleplay from developing?
Loki Aye, the gold coin question Captain....
galah{GS} yes Mistress Deidre.....rules and reality are there to keep us from being really stupid on gor, some sembelance of the way things should run, but not to nitpick on each other and every lil rule break
Laroona Ulrich maybe if they moved out of the DM and to here LOL
OK their dime their time etc
Deirdre Captain Ulrich......I came in twice yesterday and r/ped in here by Myself........and no one came in. I think it has to do with getting butts in the seats. *shrugging*
zoya{Rm}~t r/t and time, at least for zoya, but Sunday evenings she can get here (sometimes)
Loki My answer....there are some that try~nods~ some that dont, due to r/t and others things, but more or less, no people to r/p with, and the lack of imagination to get a r/p situation started, just my opinion
Deirdre I absolutely agree with you, sweet galah.....totally. *nodding*
Ulrich Deirdre that's a good point. Butts in the seat is THE most important first step.
Symbian Ulrich May be they are afraid of acting out charecter not true to Gorean
Laroona IMO if they have an hour in other places to r/p
and are of GS why not here?
nese nese very guilty sits in DM during the time home will try and go here instead
Nerius Magnhild I personally think it just slowed some when My other two cargo vessels are completed then things will get more active ....speaking of which
najla {GS} najla agrees with Mistress Laroona... if people would be in GS instead of R/P in the DM (and there are quite a few members that are there ALL the time) there would be more people around to talk and R/P with..
Deirdre Symbian...Good point....many times People have r/ped and then have been criticized about what They were doing. That is very disheartening.
Ulrich That's a possibility Symbian, but my answer to that is.. face your fears.
Come in, play your part, learn grow and conquer that fear
galah{GS} gal too, has spent much time by herself, waiting for someone to come in....and as you all know, gal does some really silly stuff, but perhaps with others, they are to worried they might be breaking some rule, even slaves, to afraid to put a foot forward to bring out what they really feel inside, obsessed with getting each and every step of the serve perfect, thats NOT what its all about
Nerius Magnhild will the boards create a new board for trade goods and such, like other places...start getting into money exchange the hole lot...smaller at first but who knows what can happen
Loki just My observation, but why be in bdsm and gor at the same time? I to was of the bdsm scene, but when i came to GS, i came to GS with all my mind to r'p here....just my thoughts, once more
nese but there is family in the DM everyone knows everyone there and talks
Laroona galah I prefer slaves to enjoy I have lovely sticky candy for some LOL
Symbian aye I couldnt agree more with Ulrich My self Im always in here making deals with other Masters
Deirdre nese....*nodding*....That is the way it use to be in GS,honey.
Loki nese....is it possible to have two homes? will one suffer? or can they be equal? im not singling you out, just a question
Laroona Nerius all well and good like other boards that were made and are not used.... how many times do we need to make new boards for people?
Loki I agree getting served in two places is totally unfair on both girls
Ulrich Perhaps it would help if some people tried using the corks as a conduit of communication. "I'll be here around such and such time, and hope others will join" Not that we need to "schedule" r/p time, but somehow we all manage to come sit alone. Perhaps with a little planning, and public knowledge of when people will be around, others can make room in their busy schedules to show up at that time. Not that the council would demand that, just a suggestion.
galah{GS} gal has said time and time again, year after year, there is more to gor than just serving a fake drink.....somehow we gotta get past that....serving is an important part also, but its not the end all, be all of everything
Laroona like washing pans that fall onto slaves galah LOL
Nerius Magnhild nodding I to understand that...but the RP boards are up and doing well....Im still working on My bio so hope to have it there soon as well....things take time...and bravery
Loki Aye Captain, that was part of one of My ideas that hasnt been voice, sorta a signup sheet as when i can be here, etc etc, then have atopic pre picked, and r/p it, sorta a basic step~shrug~
Symbian And isnt BDSM and Gor two different cultures
Laroona what a lot do not understand is that Council and others put a lot of behind the scenes RT into GS for GS and the desires of GS.... How often does a Captain ever get a chance to R/p as when he enters he is bombarded with GS stuff.. that could be handled by email
Loki yes it is Symbian, thats why, for Myself, I chose one over the other~nods~ not saying one is better, but its esier and fair to do just one
Ulrich Aye BDSM and Gor are two different worlds. I would find it difficult to switch back and forth. When I am here, I am totally immersed in my surroundings
Nerius Magnhild yes Symbian
Loki Aye Captain, the thinking is totally differnt..~nods in agreement~
galah{GS} there are lots and lots and lots of ways for a slave to serve.....if gal can bring alil laughter to someone, then her slavebelly is contented.....is that not serving? can't we have fun again? its sometimes hard for a slave to play and joke without fear that she has crossed that line, but outward mouthiness deserves punishment, but fun should spread like a rampant wildfire
Laroona galah I hear you and I like to see slaves use some imagination and individuality in their serves or play
too many have a serve and never even read it....
caitlin{Xg-L} so is it going to be considered ? allowing FW and white silks back into the Tavern?
Loki Aye galah, I remember a time, not long ago, that was fun, just being here and being involved, everyone was here ~chuckle~
Ulrich That's a good point Laroona. I was about to bring that up. Often, when I do make it by, and I do find others about, my time is spent tied up in whispers listening to one complain about another. There is a Council email that should be used when someone has an issue/gripe or complaint. Suggestions are good as well. We are a team. We work together, and if we all are informed of the issue, the first one available can address it.
Ulrich caitlin I will bring it to the Council for consideration
caitlin{Xg-L} Thank You Master ~s~
Laroona Ulrich and that is a reason may Captains suffer burn out they enter for fun and the fun is soon diminished I know this from more than one Captain over the years.... some need their hands held like kindergarten children... yes that is a gripe....
Ulrich Laroona I certainly understand that. Believe me. Lol
galah{GS} Master Ulrich, could everyone in gs write the council with like a vote? so you have an idea how many would wish such a change? galah knows this is no democracy and the vote don't really count, but it would give you all a better understanding if it would be a change for the better
Laroona maybe a poll be put on the boards and pinned a yes or no
galah{GS} or maybe it could be put as a question(poll) on the boards? but then gal hasn't seen the boards since she returned....was to use to it being nuthin but a sore spot that wouldn't go away, to full of gripes and groans
Ulrich galah you are right, it's not a democracy. But the Council does try to look for ways to make our home better, and a place where all wish to come. I wasn't around at the time white silks and FW were removed from the Tavern, so I would have to do some research to see what the reasoning is, and that would help justify a change if needed.
Ulrich I'm afraid r/t has reared it's ugly head. I am passing the forum over to my brother Loki. If you have further topics, whisper them to him. I will return if I'm able.
Loki Aye Captain....Ill do My best~nodding to Him~
Laroona I think they go back to when the move was made from poolside,,,,
on the decision pages and made a few alterations there....
Loki any more topics? just whisper them....
galah{GS} there was awhole lot more ppl back then Mistress Laroona....and there was heaps of discussions about how in the books, FW wouldn't be in a rowdy Port Kar tavern, but sometimes things can't follow the books if it means ppl sit by themselves in a room
Laroona galahI agree I also think a lot of the changes, (from memory) were made due to the behavior of a FW long gone....
Nerius Magnhild could send the slaves out to other establishments and havem lure more dock hands
galah{GS} doesn't GS at least need to mould what suits online with the books, not adhere to the books so close as to lose the family atmosphere?
caitlin{Xg-L} Master Ulrich the decision for FW and white silks to be banned from the was because of problems that one FW caused ....that FW has been gone from GS for years now and was resolved when She left ...it would benefit GS to again try and unite everyone as whole group...instead of groups
Loki I believe Captain Ulrich stated He would take it to the council caitin~grin~ we'll see what happens
Laroona and the Piazza could be a place FW go if the tavern gets rowdy
or the Market etc
caitlin{Xg-L} ~grinning~ hmmm maybe caitlin should make sure who she was addressing was actually still in the room
Laroona Hands caitlin my reading glasses**
Loki questions? comments ~chuckle~
caitlin{Xg-L} ~giggles at Mistress~
MASTER/SLAVE RELATIONSHIP
Loki here's something....what is the relationship between a Master and their slave? both points of views are welcome.....~firm nods?
galah{GS} gal thinks the biggest, or one of the biggest problems is jealously? have seen many a slave get angry if their Master looks at another slave
Laroona LOL why is it always Master some FW own slaves.... it should be open and firm, slave know their place.... but at the same time we all need to understand humans are behind the screens I am a firl believer in slaves learning at their pace and not forced.....
Loki Aye galah, jealousy does rear its head from time to time~nods~ the r/ping becomes much more than just r/ping
Nerius Magnhild I would think there would be no problems
galah{GS} and as its such a unique relationship, gal when she was owned by One instead of many, found it rather uncomfortable to serve another sexually when her Master was around.....just wondering if this is a common consensus?
Loki Aye Laroona, that is true, Mistress's and their slaves as well...
Laroona chains are often a problem with one slave being jealous of her chain
Rollo the Ax LOL...LOL... roaring with laughter at the unlimited permutations of the Master/slave relationship.... LOL.. perhaps it would be more easy to count the grains of sand on all the beachs of Gor...... LOL..
I'm back. That's a good question Loki. The relation between Master or Mistress *nodding to Laroona* is a personal one. Each relationship is different, and I don't believe they can all be lumped into a single mold.
Loki welcome back Captain~ hands the reins back to Him~
Laroona Looks at Old Man and smiles as his words are so true *S*
Rollo the Ax = Old Man BTW, it is ME... Rollo here.... for some reason I can't enter under my own name....
Symbian But is it also true not to be too attached to the girl or is that getting too close to book
galah{GS} ooooooooohhh but Jarl Magnhild, gal has seen and been around lots and lots and lots of jealous slaves over the years, it has been a problem and it rears its ugly head many times
Laroona each slave is a unique person and can be molded to the desire of a Owner,,, but is it often in the nest interest of the slaves mindset?
as often molding to one is not the best result... slave leaves...
zoya{Rm}~t yes, it has been in the past, galah, but hasn't happened in so long, the furring part, zoya doesn't know anymore
Loki Aye OLDMan/Rollo, Your laugh gave You away~grin~ Tal!
Laroona galah I agree with you even slaves on the GS chain act up *S*
Nerius Magnhild aye....hence why I prefer .....one .....chain link
galah{GS} the books spoke of love slaves....Masters that loved their slaves so much that they ended up selling them, or beating them, because to love them so, showed weakness....is this not true?
Ulrich ~looking to the Old Man~ I should have known it was you. lol
It's good to see you. You said that so much more efficiently than I did.
Kentura kentura would feel uncomfortable serving Another in such a manner if hers was around as well it would feel all most betraying as she would feel she should be focusing on her Master ...maybe its a loyalty thing as a girls Master should come first just an opinion
nese now that talk is scary
Rollo the Ax To be honest, we can only offer ideals or ideas of how ANY relationship could/would/or should develop or progress... what is pleasure for one may well be poison for another... such are the interactions of ALL humans....
nese think nese would rather do the part as acting as slave and not think about all that jealousy and loving one till he sold her or beat her
Laroona kentura that is true to a degree
but slaves can be beaten, sold, sent out as coin girls.. etc etc
it is not easy being a slave....
Loki Symbian, behind the scene tend to play a part in r/p, or at least Me
galah{GS} ooooohhh yes Mistress Laroona, there can be a very competitive edge even on the gs chain, unfortunantly....if only each could go on their own merits and not worry that someone else is getting more attentions or more furring or more....anything, than what they are getting
Rollo the Ax Lets be honest, folks... in the books, the main reason that any MAN would try to get rid of a * love slave * is simply because it was seen as a form of weakness to admit or show that he could care for ANY woman so deeply...... MACHO shit in the MAX....
Symbian Aye Loki thats the best way
galah{GS} yes kentura, loyalty would be a big part of it....and galah thinks its natural for a slave to love here Master, for he is truly her all, but for him to show it in return, openly mostly, behind closed doors, well, thats another thing perhaps?
nese but aren't slaves suppose to be loyal unless told otherwise?
Symbian noding agreemement with Rollo the Ax
Laroona galah remember the days when slaves would rush to serve a Free...
and now most are owned and restricted even from serving...
is this a problem some have as Males or a problem some have giving in to the female....
Rollo the Ax Too often, many men let others set their limits rather than KNOWING themselves deeply enough to set them their self.... the * MONSTER not MASTER * factor, I call it....
Laroona LOL with Rollo the old saying comes to mind Master thyself, before mastering others....
Ulrich Serving another isn't showing disloyalty nese. A slaves place is to serve the Free. Owning a slave is not a marriage. Of course, each Master/slave relationship is different, and whether a Master shares his slave is up to Him. But a slave doing her duty, is not showing disloyalty.
galah{GS} all this restrictions to owned slaves....that is more of an online thing for sure.....for most Masters had no problems sharing their slave or slaves with others in the books....example: a slave in the book goes on an errand, while on this errand for her Master, some Man rapes the girl and that makes her late to return, the girl gets beaten for being late
Loki i dont see restricts as a problem, its merely the line behind r/p and behind the scenes~shrug~
Ulrich It was also not uncommon for a Master to have a love slave that he kept in the back, and perhaps another that he shared with other Free
Laroona Loki some slaves are restricted and that is in some cases ludicrous (sp) and too funny for words...
but then some are as galah said are treated poorly by others in the example she gave
Rollo the Ax Perhaps a more simple way to say it is like this.... ANY man worth his salt that KNOWS himself... his powers AND his weaknesses... does NOT need to show them off to others.... I can KILL...does that mean that I must do so just for show ??? I can also be gentle to those I care for.... does that also mean that I must do so in front of all to prove it ????
galah{GS} slaves in the books had jealousy.....and humans on earth, so guess that part is to be expected, but to be serving others beside your own Master sexually, on gor would be normal, whereas on earth, that rings so much like cheating, so its our human side interfering with our gor side?
Loki aye, a line non the less Laroona~nods~
Laroona Rollo I think I understand that what you are saying also comes down to respecting a person ... for who they portray.... and how one carries oneself
kentura girl would not mind serving a Free in general just feels she should be focused on her Master when He is around unless He wishes for her to serve Another in whatever way then the girl should do as much as possible to please the Other as it would reflect on her Master , her training , and herself as a slave nor is kentura the jealous type a waste of time and energy when just speaking to the Master on the situation would normally resolve the matter without hostility among sisters
galah{GS} **claps vigorously for Master Rollo** yes yes YYYEEESSSSSSSSSS
Rollo the Ax As for this issue, and the relationship of Master/slave.... restrictions are just a way for those that are still EARTH humans ( and locked into the sex and relationship issues that we where raised with and can't break ) to try and have it BOTH ways....
Laroona kentura I bet my sweet butt that if you had a love master you would be jealous RT of his online actions if he furred others and of you.. *S*
Nerius Magnhild aye Rollo
galah{GS} kentura, an example though....if your Master was in the tavern, and when you entered, he was openly using another girl there, what would you then do? leave? serve someone else a drink while he is busy? go kneel beside him and wait till he is finished?
Khaled I placed restrictions on my girl just until she gets trained properly ...if she messes up with a serve or breaks some rules it would disgrace me and iI dont want that to happen
kelda {HoT]~t kelda steps back sometimes on things that she doesn't always understand, and tries her best to see it both ways. While placing restrictions on a slave is not exactly by the books, and while it is typically an online "thing", we are in an online world. Dealing with lots of different people, with different things going on in their lives, and different outlooks. It should be up entirely to the Free what restrictions they place. kelda doesn't see any problem with it, considering unfortunately, not everyone we come across truly understands the Gorean ways, and if all slaves were un restricted, it could cross into a bit of a.... crazy town
Loki it seems like the two categories are being brought up, livestyler, the gorean way or mind and living, or r/ping, ~shrug~ both kinds need to coexists
Laroona ((geesh I hope the scribe corrects my typos))
Old Man A * SLAVE *... any woman that can submit to any man..( yes, even if it is only ONE specific man ) knows that she has that within herself... if she can be honest to herself.... and any MAN that can draw that from her, are meant to be together...... if the man is NOT master enough to draw that from any other woman, he should have the brains and balls to be able to admit it at LEAST to HIMSELF and NOT make a ASS of himself in public....
najla {GS} ~chuckles~ yes Mistress
galah{GS} yes kelda, that can be another BIG problem.....on Gor, all men was Masters, end of the story....online, not all Men are Masters, they are to engrained with the human ways to even play a part of being a Master, that makes it extremely hard for a girl to serve one.....i gotta admit, that when one was a sister in slavehood then became a FW, i felt it very hard to serve her....even though a slave becoming a FW did happen in the books...its just that change relationship that happens
kentura well girl is married rt and has shared her husband with other females it has not bothered her do not sneak behind girls back but she does not mind sharing girl has been in polly relatioships before as far as the Master using another *shrugs *would feel a bit odd but that is His choice i would inneract with Others untill He summoned for kentura
Laroona *clapping at galah* well said and yes it is hard .. and as hard trying to pull back from being a sister slave to a FW... I hear what you say as some slave do find it difficult to serve one who knows how they can serve etc.. it must be scary
Laroona kentura you would be unique then *S*
Rollo the Ax and on the other hand... any woman that is TRULY slave, and not just some bored house wife looking for some * cyber fun * needs to also be willing to know herself enough to admit it also...... we ALL have things we WISH were different about ourselves..... My daddy always told me how to handle such issues... he said ** son.. wish in one hand, and shit in the other.. and see which one gets full first.. **
Laroona **looks at my hands** nup they is empty
nese think the Master should make it clear what the slave is suppose to do
Ulrich nese a girl should know through her training and her relationship with her Master exactly what he expects of her
nese Thankyou Master Ulrich point well made
kentura chuckles at Laroona *girl is something all right * giggles she would expect to be restricted during training or she would be set up in many ways to fail her Master and that would reflect on Him You cant take a filly from the wild ..throw tack on her ..and toss her in the show ring and expect her to perform perfectly without doing the necessary steps in between
Nerius Magnhild nods
Laroona kentura it is Mistress Laroona even in a forum *S* nese all slaves are trained .... the difference is if in a GS collar or a personal collar reflects on how a girl is trained....
galah{GS} and if he doesn't make it clear nese, then girl needs to be asking until she knows for sure..... this is just a question to think about, not to really answer....but how many slaves make their own restrictions? their Masters ask if they wish to be restricted or not? would be interesting to know that behind the scenes relationship where many times its NOT the Master making the decisions
kelda {HoT]~t *~nods at galah*~ many slaves...
Laroona slaves should IMO ask questions even Free are not above asking
Rollo the Ax I an NOT trying to insult ANYBODY here or anywhere on Gor .... but lets at least be TRUE to ourselves.... if Gor is ONLY about * fake * drink serves or such... about only TRYING to convince other ppl that we are NOT what we really are ??? what the HELL is the use ????
kentura valid point galah
nese interesting point galah did not know that
galah{GS} but then, a lot of that decision making from a girl comes from those in the BDSM world where girls do make the decisions, so of course its going to fade over into gor as lots of gor ppl come from that scene
nese well galah Gorean ways are totally different
galah{GS} guess thats when a gorean Master and slave must decide to take that relationship to a gorean level? where a girl has NO say, and just does as her Master says
Laroona they are different' but then it depends how far one takes them I came to Gor raw, I learnt, looked at myself,, and still I learn about Gor and myself... if that makes sense
nese read that line five times galah makes sense but making sure this girl gets it all has no rebuttle
galah{GS} yes nese, they are very different.....gal found it hard in DM, couldn't make that change....but she found it very hard when a suppose to be gorean Master wanted her to make decisions
KatherineEspair I have been thinking quite a bit about the 'gor' in a chatroom.. the serves.. the dances. On irc there are plenty of gorean rooms where the people sit all day talking about what is happening to them offline and how their day is going. I realized that the gor has started to disappear from rooms. on the flip side a lot of html gorean rooms capitalize on roleplay to the point where you are a character. you shelve it if you don't like it and move to a new home... is it still gor? The happy medium lies in enjoying gor online. We can never hope to bring ourselves to the planet but we can enjoy both the philosophies as well as the expression of slaves as they serve. In the end enjoying a chatroom experience is what you make of it. Every home is going to be a little different and in the interpretation of the people within's beliefs of what gor is. I don't think it would be the same without the participation of the little things.
Ulrich That does make sense Laroona. If we really desire, there is more to learn about Gor and ourselves every single day.
Laroona Katherine well said
kelda {HoT]~t Everyone needs to grow in their own time, and own ways.
Some come from different submissive backgrounds. Some come from nothing and have to build up However, none should be deprived of learning Gorean ways just because they at first have a different outlooks. Scaring away new-comers is not a good thing, but encouragement, and a hope they may find themselves in our ways
Ulrich Well said kelda
KatherineEspair thank You Laroona *smiles softly*
uscious {Kh} and some come from no submissivness ever, but are interested, and willing to learn... trying something new, seeing just what they are capable of doing.
Laroona well said kelda we all have different learning styles
galah{GS} **nods at Mistress Espair** yes, it was discussed many a time if GS would have those fake characters, can't remember what they even call them....and some places, ppl get killed and then just come back as a new person....GS has NEVER been like that, we are who we are, and can't and don't change our characters ever
Laroona Many know I have been only two persona's in GS
thatis how it is here,, and frankly after viewing other sites to me it is the best way
nese going back to the beginning of discussion maybe one seeing how everyday interaction with slave and Master are in here instead of being put in one room may help ease a newcomer into the lifestyle going back to bdsm sitting and watching learned alot if this girl sat in another room would learn nothing
KatherineEspair I agree with that outlook galah. I like to think of it as simply 'I am me'. I am me on gor.. I do not pretend to be anything else that what I feel I am and act as such. It isn't 'what would my character do'.
Ulrich Exactly galah. I think that is one of the things that sets GS apart.
If we die, well we're dead. PERIOD
kentura this girl admit she comes from BDSM world a few years ago she knew little of it feeling she could not judge what she did not know and understand she began learning ..she Domme for a while then she met her former Master who all so was a lover of Gor ..she learned to kneel and more about who she truely is and her desires in the first 6 months then she had in the 6 years before ..she trained in BDSM but apparently He allso added Gor touches as she is finding out ..girl has accepted who and what she is and it has affected her rt ...now she comes here knowing little perhaps girls knowledge will expand of here and herself with what she learns
she will do as her Master says she does not feel one should claim slave if they are not ready to embrace the full meaning of the word or you may miss the point
galah{GS} GS tries to adhere to the books, but there always must be alil bending room as we are in reality on earth, but to try and RP all we can bring with us from that planet on the other side of the sun
Laroona nese you can seek out an O collar and wander into every room in GS
Rollo the Ax Katherine... that is a perfect example of just why there is so many troubles or arguments here and in other sights.... and is simply the different levels of COMMITMENT... if * GOR * is just another Playstaion game or chat site to a person, they will NEVER see it the way that some of US do...... who is right ???
ShadowHawk well said Old Man.. very well said!
Laroona kentura if you have read the GS web site it ha a lot of information on it... but also I am willing to give you other links that will expand on that *S*
Ulrich Who is right Rollo? That is a case of there is no right or wrong. If you wish to play a "character" and make it a game where you have infinite lives and personas, you go somewhere else. If you want to BE Gorean, live and die Gorean, then you come here. What's right to one, may not be right for all.
galah{GS} you are still the same person Mistress Laroona, your name change can with a status change, but your still that same person...you have never hidden the fact you use to be slave....even some of the slaves have new names, that happens, but we are still who we are
KatherineEspair There is no right answer to that.... erm.. Old Man. There is however choice. We choose what level we wish and we search until we find what we are looking for. For some such as myself that search may take a while. Finding like-minded individuals is not as easy as strolling into a chatroom and putting down roots. Even if the first person you meet in a place seems friendly and inviting it may not mean that the second or third might be. A home isn't a single individual's ideas in the end but the collective.
kentura thank You Mistress Laroona girl is trying
Ulrich OK we are over time. Thank you all for coming and participating to a good healthy discussion. I have some r/t to tend to. The forum is now closed. najla thank you for scribing.
Laroona plucks a feather and huggs galah ** that is so true... I am me... just sometime a grumpy old me... I am in GS for the love of the r/p and the relaxation
galah{GS} and a collective is what GS needs to get back too, somewhere along the line that got lost and what is sorely missed.....and as serious as we consider ourselves in being gorean and not gamers, we still need to have fun, or why are we here? we all have better things to do than to come here and be miserable and cry over vt stuff
KatherineEspair *smiles softly* I wish I had made more than the tail end of the discussion. It has been ages since I've attended a forum anywhere.
Rollo the Ax Our exact point of a very long time, Urlich... if GS does NOT * fit * the mould of how any person sees Gor... or if they can't follow OUR rules of conduct, then by all means go elsewhere and try to find what you are looking for...... but if you want to remain in GS then FOLLOW OUR RULES of conduct ...... simple in the EXTREME
KatherineEspair I agree galah, completely. *smiles*
Laroona *wonders what a tailless galah is like*
galah{GS} hey Mistress Laroona, not many Masters around here would agree that gal ain't got no tail heheheheheheheheeee
Laroona heee galah be funny sight indeed