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Xertog 19:39:20 CST

Before we start the forum there is a quick announcement about a change in the GS rules.

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:39:56 CST

So, do you have a scribe ready Laroona ??? shall we begin ???

 

Xertog 19:41:03 CST

The Council will allow any GS pledged patron to give an GS observer collar. They will be good for two weeks from when they are posted on the main message board. A Captain may nullify these collars as they see fit.

 

Ramses 19:42:20 CST

nods in agreement with Xertog's announcement ...

 

Lemuel 19:42:35 CST

~listening to the announcement~

 

Loki 19:42:53 CST

Aye Captain~nodding in understanding~

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:42:59 CST

shaking my bald head...... Okay, that dropped post was answering a question about me saying that I had been up to my ass in alligators....LOL...LOL... I have had too many RT problems and events to list, to explain why I have not been on-line at all in the past week or so.....

 

Zoran 19:43:35 CST

nods in agreement with the new rule so it is a temp Collar till the Captain have time to see the new collar slave

 

Laroona 19:44:03 CST

nodding as I listen to Xertog a great idea as often it is difficult for a council member to be around when some needing O collars are around *S*

 

Xertog 19:46:10 CST

No Zoran it's a GS Observer collar. Before just Council members could give them. Since any GS pledge can collar a slave for the tavern we saw no reason why they couldn't also do the observer collar too.

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:46:32 CST

It should be noted that the Council HOPES that common sense will be used by any patron doing so.... To keep things * in hand * and not just slapping collars on at whim .... and that it is also required to post it on the message board to make it so......

 

Zoran 19:46:53 CST

nods

 

Loki 19:47:57 CST

~nods to both Captains~

 

Lemuel 19:49:03 CST

~nods as I listen~

 

Laroona 19:49:13 CST

aye Captains if one has time to collar one should have time to post LOL

 

Zoran 19:49:14 CST

lol so we cna just throw them up in the air and were they land is good lol 

I am just kidding Captains 

I understand

 

Zoran 19:50:14 CST

wow we get to post new slaves dam that is quick LOL

 

Laroona 19:51:35 CST

Zoran to post on the boards... I meant LOL

 

Zoran 19:52:32 CST

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh grining

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:52:35 CST

Okay, now that the change has been announced, we will move on to the regular forum.... same rules as always .... does anybody have a topic or question they wish discussed ????

 

Xertog 19:55:39 CST

Before we start on a topic I'd like people to stop suggesting topics that are meant as veiled shots at others.

 

Lemuel 19:56:42 CST

An excellent suggestion Xertog.

 

Loki 19:56:57 CST

~nodding to Xertog~

 

Rollo_the_Ax 19:58:00 CST

????? Has that been done today. brother ??? or at past forums ???

 

SLAVES BEHAVIOR -SERVING ETC

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:00:24 CST

So far today, I have one question...* when is a slave ready to go from whit silk to yellow as it seem cloudy to me...* and one * Can we bring up slave rudeness and slave entrances ? ...* ....?????

 

Xertog 20:01:34 CST

It was done the last week but it's been done in other weeks too.

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:02:07 CST

And just now I received.... * what purpose does a slave enter GS? 

and to whom does a slave owe her first duty to within a serve? ....*

 

Lemuel 20:02:57 CST

~listening to the topics~

 

Zoran 20:03:05 CST

are you think these questions are ask to hurt some one Captain

 

Laroona 20:04:07 CST

IMO when slaves have a firm grasp on slavery and some knowledge of some serves... and the ability to be alluring in those serves before one is given yellows

 

Zoran 20:05:22 CST

so the white is to protect?

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:05:39 CST

Okay, brother...I understand now.... Lets just try a rather simple but effective method to deal with such actions.... Lets see ??? how to put this ??? Okay, how about ... ** If you don't have the BALLS to speak clearly, plainly, and to somebody elses FACE...... DON'T try to back stab them HERE !!!!!!! ** does that seem to cover it ????????? LOL...LOL..

 

Laroona 20:05:43 CST

as for slaves entering I have of late seen some poor entrances.... and slaves standing in doorways and not entering to serve... 

this that raises the question on the purpose of why enter

 

dove{GS} 20:05:50 CST

thinks slaves first purpose is to please her Master..or Mistress...and her actions in her serve reflects upon Them... 

then to the Master or Mistress being served..their pleasure in it...

 

Lemuel 20:05:58 CST

As I recall, there were certain requirements for "yellow silk" in the GS training manual. Knowledge of the menu, a few basic positions, etc.

 

Ramses 20:06:15 CST

nods in agreement with Laroona .. but then that is somewhat qualitative .. which by its natures leaves the decision open to some ... cloudiness

 

Loki 20:06:43 CST

isnt there a checklist so to speak that the white silk must go threw and pass before becoming a yellow? showing that she is proficient in those things being a new slave?

 

Lemuel 20:06:47 CST

~grins and nods at Rollo's words~

 

Zoran 20:07:15 CST

begins to speak 

ok that covers it Rollo 

sit back

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:07:38 CST

No, Zoran.... todays questions are all proper and well based....

 

Zoran 20:08:21 CST

if a slave is not given permission they should sit and wait 

for that is what I have know form the past but some seem to leave rather then wait

 

Kha 20:08:33 CST

I have to ask if You ask a slave a straight question ... do You expect a straight answer ..

 

Zoran 20:08:42 CST

nods to Rollo

 

Lemuel 20:09:04 CST

IMO a slave's first duty   within a serve  is to the One she is serving.

 

Zoran 20:09:29 CST

well if they don't give it they better be ready to duck Kha

 

Laroona 20:09:50 CST

Zoran not in the Piazza is begging to enter required by Personal slaves 

only for the tavern 

and all GS owned slaves need not beg entry

 

Kha 20:10:16 CST

nods My sentiment exactly ....

 

Laroona 20:11:01 CST

nodding I agree Lemuel *S*

 

Zoran 20:11:16 CST

so they just run in to the Piazza 

that brings me should they greet 

or do they wait to be given permission

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:11:59 CST

white, yellow, red.... think of the silk colors much the same as stripes or degrees... a private does not know as much as a corporal... and a corporal does not know as much as a sergeant... to promote anybody BEFORE they know how to FULLY handle their past rank, is just asking for trouble....

 

Zoran 20:12:01 CST

very true Lemuel 

if Master is not happy you not done you duty

 

dove{GS} 20:12:21 CST

nods agreeing with Master Lemuel... 

ultimately...though..a slave is owned..and is bound by that Masters...Mistresses will... 

if He or she says serve this way..or that...she must heed...it is her purpose.. 

though to be pleasing to those she serves as well..

 

Kha 20:12:28 CST

Zoran~ they should greet~

 

Zoran 20:12:45 CST

thinking i done that in RT 

promoting before ready

 

Laroona 20:12:50 CST

they enter, and greet then offer to serve no mater what room they enter

 

whispers{GS} 20:13:34 CST

whispers also thinks that perhaps a day a month or so should be set aside so if one needed to be tested they can do so. It is difficult to get a Captain to test especially if one does dancing and the other does the verbal test. So if One can be there at the same day then everything could be taken care of.

 

Zoran 20:14:32 CST

but my slave is always train to ask before she greets if I am there and that is my choice as her Master

 

Laroona 20:15:27 CST

that is your choice Zoran... if not then the other protocols should be used IMO....

 

Laroona 20:17:59 CST

this is not pointed at any but is to the questions in hand 

 

I have been observing and of late and to my disgust noticed several slaves in the kennels, training yards and YET Free entering after the slaves have established their "slave conventions" remain untended and unserved. This showing of Free of both genders in the tavern or piazza and slaves in other rooms is IMO unacceptable, 

and demonstrates slaves are either lazy or selective in whom they serve, 

will state that the most prominent of these slaves are personally owned slaves of pledged free.

 

amira 20:18:29 CST

takes a breath. 

in the Piazza the proper way for a GS girl to enter is to come in take a camisk put it on go to the serving furs kneel in tower 

Greet and offer serve 

Gs slaves entering the Tavern do not beg they go in kneel nadu on the serving furs...... greet and offer serve 

Descriptions vary . usually it has always been understood in the Piazza there is no show of Heat in Respect to the FW's that may be present 

the Tavern ......... a girl shows heat ..... 

serves and entry are expected to be descriptive pleasing to the eye and the room

 

amira 20:19:16 CST

Personal slaves do not beg entry to the Piazza... 

they DO beg entry to the Tavern

 

Laroona 20:20:43 CST

thus what is their purpose of entering if unwilling to serve 

I have observed Free sitting for over a ahn on more than one occasion

 

whispers{GS} 20:22:29 CST

whispers does not go into the tavern or Piazza unless she A has the time to serve or B has the desire to serve. lately its been hard for her to be in the tavern to serve bc her heart hasnt been there. but she tries to make sure she greets and serves each free when she sees them

 

Zoran 20:24:12 CST

so in the past I have been in the yard and many come in to watch I not seen it of late Laroona but I do remember in the past what you speak of

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:26:11 CST

RULES are set by the Council, to define a minimum level of acceptable behavior.... it is always a CHOICE of every free or slave to follow these set levels.... GS slaves are REQUIRED to adhere...private slaves are EXPECTED to do so also, but they must follow the wishes of their PRIVATE Master first.... and when it is all said and done, who does it right and who does it wrong is little more than proof of each persons PERSONAL commitment and honor ....

 

Laroona 20:26:31 CST

slaves sitting in rooms where no free is one thing' 

when free are sitting in other rooms whilst free are alone with no slaves is another issue

 

Zoran 20:27:16 CST

well said Rollo

 

amira 20:27:27 CST

but isnt it in fact more than just having the time to serve that should be important? 

any actions by any slaves with in GS directly reflects on GS 

if a slave either personal or GS owned acts badly 

doesnt that reflect on GS. 

what IS the impression we are putting out to the Community of Gor . if slaves have the ability to be rude. or be displeasing. or ignore Ones they would rather Not serve. 

in all honesty i believe it goes back to the question placed on the bards by jessi a few weeks ago 

and by Master Rollo as well 

what IS each individuals purpose for being here ?

 

Deirdre 20:29:17 CST

And there it is, Captain ROllo. Therein lies the problem. The Oones that either project that behavior....or allow it.....have NO Personal Commitment and Honor. They are the Oones causing the problems for Tthose of Uus who do .

 

~segen~{All} 20:29:30 CST

~clearing her throat to ask a question~ (no i fully preface this, with i rarely come to GS anymore, and as a slave i have no homestone so you are free to disregard the question) 

 

Why is it, that if a Free DOES happen to be in another room and sees slaves about, that they can't whisper to a slave and ask for service? (thinking that in a tavern or a restraunt when someone is not seen they lift their head and call for service)...Now this is the premise that perhaps they are unnoticed not that a girl is unwilling to serve, but why can't they just say "HEY, i'm HERE"....

 

Zoran 20:31:07 CST

segen is not the place of the Master to ask to be serve 

the lilone should ask if Master needs service when they see them

 

Kha 20:31:23 CST

I quite often send slaves to Men in the Tavern ..because I have been more diligent perhaps and seen the Man sitting there twiddling His ..hmmmm thumbs

 

~segen~{All} 20:32:19 CST

Master Zoran, where i understand fully what You are saying, if i were Free, i would Not sit and wait if i did see someone about. i would ask for service if i was not freely given (or actually i'd probably get up and fix myself a drink because free can do that too when there is no slaves about *smiling*)...and i wish to add, i'm not saying You're wrong at all!

 

Loki 20:32:44 CST

~nodding to Zoran~ well said

 

Laroona 20:33:01 CST

Kha I do that also I try and ensure all are served

 

amira 20:33:03 CST

but segen IF a slave is IN GS should she or he not be watching the rooms........ ? 

it seems a two sided blade to that question 

tis said that if a slave comes to GS they should be prepared to serve. 

but a Free should have to PM the slave to get them to serve. 

Who ultimately has the responsibility?

 

Penny 20:33:55 CST

*slipping in and reading back to try to catch up on the topic*

 

~segen~{All} 20:34:02 CST

amira, i'm not saying that a slave should stop watching...what i'm saying is, if i were free, i would not sit and wait if service had not been offered.

 

Zoran 20:34:04 CST

segen if I have to ask I will not be polite weg

 

samira{GS} 20:34:31 CST

the slaves are to be aware of Those that are coming and going and offer service in timely fashion

 

valmir GS}O 20:34:46 CST

well Mistress valmir will see that Your horn is always full *s*

 

~segen~{All} 20:34:51 CST

Master Zoran, Oh i agree with that and i do not think it SHOULD be polite at that point! I think that might be a good wake up call to be honest.

 

~segen~{All} 20:35:31 CST

People, i am not honestly saying it's not a slave's responsibility...

 

Zoran 20:35:36 CST

nods to segen

 

amira 20:36:08 CST

~just playing devils advocate as it were segen?~ 

~ impish grin~

 

Laroona 20:36:23 CST

Zoran I agree it is not up to free to yell for service

 

~segen~{All} 20:36:34 CST

Master Zoran, i think what i'm speaking of is being mmmm proactive in a sense. if You see a girl about and she's not coming in to offer serive as she should then YES, wake her up...

 

Kha 20:37:09 CST

so segan ..am I getting this right .. do you think slaves are behaving like this ..because they need to be put back in their place ?

 

~segen~{All} 20:37:10 CST

amira *grinning*..as am i to an extent...of course i am one of his advocates so it's easier *laughing*

 

Loki 20:37:54 CST

a slave doenst want Me to wake her up~growlin~

 

Reina 20:37:59 CST

Smiling gently.. I have to agree with the others that Free should not have to ask for service...

 

Zoran 20:38:00 CST

segen lilone we are discussing here 

and if need I will wake her up lol 

but I see you playin devil advocate 

lol

 

Deirdre 20:38:05 CST

Kha.......segen is speaking of being proactive rather than reactive. And for the record.....segen is one of the first slaves that I see ALWAYS offering service.....

 

~segen~{All} 20:38:11 CST

Mistress Kha, that i can't answer. Until three days ago i've not stepped in GS in months. i don't know if what's spoken of is a honest problem or if it's a percieved sight by a Free. However, if it was happening and i was the Free about...yes i probably would give the wake up call (but then again, that's me)

 

amira 20:38:36 CST

so does that only apply to a group of slaves in the Kennels. 

or a does it also apply to slaves collected in a private room as well?

 

samira{GS} 20:38:47 CST

~glancing over to Master Loki and nodding in agreement~

 

Laroona 20:38:49 CST

OK another scenario 

slaves having their convention.. only time free cannot expect service is during slave class.... 

but why even enter if not prepared to be a slave.. 

slaves duty is to be pleasing at all times 

to sit and not enter to serve or even PM if service is required is definitely unpleasing of any slave

 

Zoran 20:39:10 CST

nods to Loki 

I think if I wake them up they will need the help of Deirdre and her medicine lol

 

Deirdre 20:39:27 CST

And just for the record.......and not addressed to ANY slave present at this forum........I think that some of the privately owned NEW slaves DO need to be put in their place. they have forgotten the definition of the word "slave"....but that is My o-pinion.

 

~segen~{All} 20:39:38 CST

Master Loki, i bet if you woke me up, and i was in a different room, i'd not forget to look again for Ya.....just a thought... 

 

amira, i have no idea what the rules are for private rooms, i assume some are used for specific reasons....that i personally can't answer, mayhap someone else can?

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:40:54 CST

And if that is so, lady Deirdre... HOW can we MAKE them act with honor ??? How can we force them to commit ??? Who is the greater fool ??? The one that has no honor, or the one that cries out at the others lack of it ??? Can ANYBODY change a stone into a bird by yelling at it or losing their temper ??? If the stone is shown the path, and still chooses to remain a stone, then who else should lose sleep over its choice ???? Spend your time with the BIRDS, and ignore the stones...... you will be more happy, and so will the stone......

 

~segen~{All} 20:41:31 CST

Is it not possible for some to want to enter to be around something familiar? Something they know, people they care about?

 

amira 20:42:11 CST

but yet once again ..... tis more a matter of appearances. 

now im not saying that slaves dont have the right to be in private rooms talking... 

but if a Free enters and there are only four or five slaves not visible and seemingly in a private room yet none come out to acknowledge or offer. 

what type of reflection is this making on GS

 

Penny 20:42:13 CST

*listening to Rollo's very wise words*

 

Loki 20:42:21 CST

~chuckling~ Aye a slave would never forget the encounter, thats for sure...., but it should never happen in the first, some slaves have become lazy in there duties of serving the Free..

 

samira{GS} 20:42:29 CST

nicely put Master Rollo

 

Laroona 20:42:44 CST

slaves have choices is that what you are trying to say segen 

they can be selective whom they serve???

 

~segen~{All} 20:43:30 CST

Mster Loki, segen NEVER EVER said it SHOULD happen, but offered an alternative if it does. 

amira, your words are spoken of GS so i would guess you mean GS slaves...i will defer to them to answer that one

 

Deirdre 20:43:50 CST

*looking directly at Captain Rollo* 

I do not feel that I am a fool to expect Oothers to act appropriately here in GS. I really don't, Captain. I get angry when I see protocol being completely ignored.......when I see slaves being smart-mouth to Free......when I get personally threatened for "flaming" a slave. I am not a fool........but I sure as hell am angry.

 

Lemuel 20:44:09 CST

~settling back to listen again~

 

~segen~{All} 20:44:49 CST

Mistress Laroona, the choice the slave makes is whether to enter or not. After that, no, i'm not saying at all that they have a choice on whom to serve. i'm answering one of Your questions however as to sometimes why slaves enter. (but i could only be speaking for myself) i have learned the hard way not to enter GS depending upon my moods...and as most have seen, i have just not been around.

 

Penny 20:45:08 CST

segen, I know that in general, for a long time, actually, I wouldn't even log into GS unless I saw an old friend in. 

BUT, I've been trying to log in just for the purpose of making new friends, since new people deserve the chance to become old friends, of that makes any sense? hehe. 

*hugs segen because I'm so happy to see her here in the forum... hughughug*

 

amira 20:46:35 CST

honestly amira would think it should be a question thought about for any slave entering any Gorean site.. 

but that is simply this girls opinion

 

samira{GS} 20:46:39 CST

amira, not a good one in this ones book. if there are slaves about, or even just one, they should come out of hiding, greet and offer service 

samira herself has seen some that just sit in rooms

 

~segen~{All} 20:46:41 CST

~smiling brightly to Mistress Penny~ Yes it does completely, and i have done the same (well not coming in to make new friends but only when i see old)... 

Because i do not feel i represent a Gorean slave well enough these days, most times i do not enter, because if i come in as a slave, i do know what's expected of me and if i can't do it, i shouldn't be there.

 

Laroona 20:46:45 CST

so when they enter their choices are null and void

 

dove{GS} 20:47:23 CST

of course...GS slaves should be the first ones to up..and leave whatever they are doing to serve the Free,,, 

but so should personally owned slaves...they are here to serve as well...right?~

 

~segen~{All} 20:48:35 CST

Mistress Laroona, well i suppose that's a yes and no. i've certainly entered before when i was not acting as a slave should because i have free will in real time. But theoretically, yes. Once she enters she should adhere to the rules of the site. Actually You have the same responsibly as a FW...to act in accordance of a FW or face the consequences there in.

 

Penny 20:49:33 CST

*nodding to segen* 

Yeah, I don't feel that I represent much of anything but a mess these days... heh. BUT, I'm having a good time coming in when I can, and that's what matters in the long run, I think. 

*cheerful smiles* 

It should be about fun, and interacting with new people can be lots of fun with a positive attitude. 

*nods bunches*

 

{Ruilans_ariel} 20:49:59 CST

*sighs and steps up* as a privately owned slave, i admit to being guilty of what is being spoke of. 

i rarely enter the piazza. 

for a long time, i did not enter because i was restricted from entering by my Master. 

now, i usually do not enter from choice. 

my fault. i'll fix it. 

it will not happen anymore.

 

Laroona 20:50:17 CST

segen this was not meant to be personal as was stated clearly earlier 

I know my place and need not any slave to remind me of it

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:50:41 CST

WHY is it ALWAYS taken as a * reflection * on the room or site ???? If one hundred flowers are in a field, and one or two weeds sprout, why is it always about the WEEDS and NOT the flowers ?????? Does GS have GOOD people around ???? YES !!!!! does that mean that it will never have an asshole come in ????? HELL NO !!!!! but is GS the lesser for allowing even assholes to come and TRY to learn, or should we turn it into a PRIVATE little club of ONLY those we LIKE ?????? THAT is what KILLS sites.... close the doors to ALL, and you may as well shut the place down...it is in its death throws....

 

~segen~{All} 20:51:13 CST

Mistress Penny, i agree with you so fully and completely we're like one tonight (which should scare the crap out of You or Master Kyoto *giggling*)... 

When it stopped being any fun for me anymore, and there were more tears then smiles it was time to step back for me.

 

Kha 20:51:19 CST

ariel ...your honesty girl is from the heart ~

 

{Ruilans_ariel} 20:51:58 CST

thanks Mistress Kha. 

and with that, i am creeping off to bed. 

farewell all.

 

~segen~{All} 20:52:03 CST

Mistress Laroona, i was not reminding You of Your place Mistress.. i was saying how we all have choices and expectations wether in the role of slave, or Fw or even FM...

 

whispers{GS} 20:52:22 CST

perhaps its the weeds that grow deep within the earth and spreed under the flowers that cause the most damage Captain

 

Deirdre 20:52:23 CST

*blinking at the Captain's post*

 

Laroona 20:52:45 CST

nodding to ariel and her honesty 

you was obeying your Master 

and BTW folks I am not speaking about myself... it is from observations of how both FM and FW are treated

 

Kha 20:53:37 CST

nods to Rollo's words ~

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:54:06 CST

ariel... WHY DO SO ????? If you know deep down in your heart that you do NOT want to go into a certain room for whatever reason, WHY do so just to placate others ????? Is it better to go where you do NOT want to be just to * save face * ???? or better to go where you KNOW that you will enjoy and be enjoyed ?????

 

Deirdre 20:54:53 CST

Captain Rollo.....You know that I hold great respect for You. I have for Many, Many years. But I am not speaking of homilies or platitudes here. I am speaking of the realities of coming in GS day after day and having to deal with things that should NOT be allowed. That is what I am addressing. That is what I am speaking of.

 

~segen~{All} 20:55:45 CST

~tilting head at Master Rollo's words~ 

Because in the role as slave, there are no choices....ariel cannot come in to talk to friends when she is having a bad day. to feel the comfort of her home about her and what's familure without fulfilling the "role" wether or not she wishes to go in and serve that moment or that person.

 

Laroona 20:56:47 CST

listening and nodding as Captain Rollo speaks 

and Deidre 

I think we are trying hard to make GS even better than it is.... and to see it slipping hurts

 

Rollo_the_Ax 20:58:11 CST

whispers.... a weed may TRY to choke out the flowers... but it can not do so unless the flower lets it do so.... and the flower will stay a flower, unless it gives up and lets itself become just another weed......

 

Deirdre 20:58:37 CST

*nodding to Laroona* 

Yes....it hurts like hell. Sometimes it feels as if I am yelling into the wind. The very foundation that GS sits on.....those protocols that Norman created that we follow as much as possible here......are being watered down.......or ignored. My opinion.

 

roni{GS} 20:59:32 CST

*listening to segan knowing roni feels like that sometime just needs a sister to speak with before serving Any*

 

bahi{HoK} 20:59:52 CST

~ speaks quietly~ 

Is it possible that the glass is being viewed as half empty rather than half full? GS isn't such a bad place.. mostly filled with pretty decent people.. Free and slave.. but to sit here and listen tonight.. it doesn't seem that the good in the people here is being seen.. and not at all spoken of.. slaves serve.. a lot.. and never is that spoken of as much as the more rare missed serve

 

Lemuel 21:00:01 CST

~taking up Rollo's metaphor~ And flowers need a little shit now and then to help them grow.

 

amira 21:00:26 CST

~with all due respect Master Rollo~ 

tis not so much the fact that the weeds are growing. 

its more the fact...... that they are getting so big, and rather than speak or acknowledge that there are weeds... 

they are simply ignored. 

am i saying that we ignore or get rid of the perceive weeds. 

absolutely not 

all this girl is asking is that we tend the WHOLE Garden. and not just a few patches of it

 

Penny 21:00:47 CST

What an excellent analogy, just for everyday life... 

"A flower will stay a flower unless it gives up and lets itself become a weed". 

I like that. 

*nods nods*

 

whispers{GS} 21:00:59 CST

not only that Master Lemuel but they also need a hand to guide them and watch them grow into beautiful blossoms, often whispers does not see that

 

Deirdre 21:01:29 CST

*hearing Lem's comment and bursting out laughing* 

Then......well........GS should be FLOURISHING.....because.....well.........lots and lots of crap happening.

 

Penny 21:01:38 CST

*pulling out my weed whacker and making meanie faces* 

Bad weeds. Grrrrrrrr.

 

Kha 21:03:28 CST

whispers ...maybe because the flowers are all hiding away from the watering cans and hoes ...it is harder being a tavern slave than any ..because you are not privately owned ..but belong to GS ..so in that do you not belong to all that is pledged to the Homestone ?

 

Laroona 21:03:53 CST

laughing indeed Dei slaves would be blossoming 

on the point raised if ppl only want to chat about their day there are other chat formats to utilize 

as entering GS is not the purpose of self gratification but to serve others and be pleasing...

 

roni{GS} 21:04:49 CST

many times roni has offered to serve Free and she gets rejected plenty of times....this might be why some slaves are not offering to serve like they should either...just roni's opinion that is all.....roni finds it discouraging when Free do not want service

 

Rollo_the_Ax 21:05:04 CST

Okay.... I know for a FACT that one rule the Council set a LONG time ago was that for a slave, if they feel that they can NOT be * pleasing * if they enter the tavern or Piazza, that they should plainly NOT do so.... these women KNOW themselves well enough to know when they are having a BAD day .... does that mean that they can't enter a PRIVATE room and whisper to their friends for support or comfort ???? The day that GS will NOT allow such, is the day that THIS old dog will stand DOWN....

 

~segen~{All} 21:05:12 CST

Well, ~thinking~ is it possible to have maybe a rt room somewhere or a hidden rt room where if people do need to talk for a moment before getting into the right mind set that they could?? Not everyone has IM's...maybe a little real chat room?

 

Penny 21:05:30 CST

I know that I'd like to get to know the GS chain better, I enjoy talking with the ones that I see (and sharing my sugar fantasies with them... hehe... everyone should be as cookie obsessed as me.. *nods nods*). 

I'd like to see lots of happy, smiling faces in the public rooms lots and lots.

 

~segen~{All} 21:06:35 CST

~whispering to amira and pointing to Master Rollo's words~ Well it looks like we see know that a slave can go private if she needs to without being thought worse of or thought of being unattentive... 

Thank You for the clarification, Master Rollo!

 

Penny 21:07:02 CST

roni, I know I'd rather talk and joke around with slaves than have them run around doing a serve. 

OR, if a slave serves, I want the serve to be quick, so we can play with the food... heh.

 

Kha 21:07:20 CST

that might be an idea ....what about using the Forum room as that then as its only used on mondays

 

amira 21:07:41 CST

~smiles and nods~ 

that cleared that question at the very least indeed

 

whispers{GS} 21:07:51 CST

whispers has also seen it where there will be three or four girls and one is sent out to serve in the Piazza bc the Master doesnt particularly like the slave. ect

 

~segen~{All} 21:08:23 CST

oooo that's an idea Mistress Kha, mayhap if a Free sees a slave or slaves in the forum they know they are speaking rt stuff and not roleplay?

 

roni{GS} 21:09:05 CST

Yes Mistress Penny from roni's understanding a slave is serving if they are speaking in conversations 

roni is speaking of Ones that just flat out say NO or They do not have a need for it

 

Kha 21:09:28 CST

why do the slaves here seem to think the only way of serving is getting a drink .. food or on the furs ..what ever happenned to talk....play ... and fun ~

 

Ulrich 21:09:29 CST

roni there are times I come here expecting an rti, or there is a good chance of it. I'll always decline a serve then. 

Doesn't mean a slave shouldn't offer. That's not her place to decide

 

Laroona 21:10:21 CST

that would work... *S* 

or in whispers... 

I am having a crappy day.. I be Ok in a few ... I needed to settle down... so I can be a pleasing slave ..if i enter now I cannot be the best slave...

 

~segen~{All} 21:10:34 CST

i agree with You Mistress Kha...perosnally when in a room and NOT in use (after offering service) i try to play...to make people laugh, to remember that gor WAS a fun loving place where they partied damn hard too *L*

 

roni{GS} 21:10:45 CST

Yes Master Ulrich roni wasn't saying that Master 

roni was just saying it is discouraging to be turned a lot

 

Deirdre 21:10:53 CST

roni.......I say no to a serve quite often.....but I do so graciously.......and I always thank the slave for offering. Sometimes I know My time is limited....so receiving a service isn't realistic.

 

~segen~{All} 21:11:14 CST

Wonderful Mistress Laroona!! That's awesome so that people understand that a slave (or FW or FM) is getting to the roleplay place but may not be there the moment they enter

 

Kha 21:13:00 CST

Captain ..can We not have the forum for r\t stuff ? as most are friends as well as goreans ..that way all can go there not just slaves .. the them and Us syndrome ~

 

Laroona 21:13:44 CST

I usually say no thanks not at this time 

I appreciate the offer of a serve 

there are several ways to have interaction in GS

 

~segen~{All} 21:13:57 CST

Mistress Kha, i think that's a great idea too, not just slaves, ANYONE...that wants a bit rt before roleplay or after or whatever.

 

Laroona 21:14:45 CST

but there should be a limit that one sits in a rt only room not ahns on end ... IMO

 

Penny 21:14:53 CST

I'd probably never make it into any of the other rooms, then, since all I tend to talk about is r/t... heh.

 

~segen~{All} 21:15:39 CST

Also agree with that Mistrss Laroona

 

Kha 21:16:02 CST

dont forget that We get it to girls.. if We do not answer quick enough for the slaves liking .. impatience as if We are ignoring you ... sometimes My injections in My hands are running out and are killing Me and its taking Me a long time to type or take out the typos ~

 

Loki 21:16:19 CST

this is a role play site is it not?

 

Penny 21:16:45 CST

I just remember what things were like when all we had was one room... people talked about "stuff" in the context of what they were doing in a roleplay sense...

 

roni{GS} 21:17:12 CST

*wonders if roni might ask a question then without it being taken the wrong way of that is trying to be difficult because roni isn't going to try and be that way at all*

 

~segen~{All} 21:17:26 CST

What do You mean Mistress Penny?

 

orli 21:18:09 CST

*turns to Mistress Kha~ 

learning patience is the first test for a slave....at least it should be....it is not up to a slave to determine how long it takes for a Free to decide if they wish for service.........a Free could take 2 ahns to reply if they wished it....it is for the slave to know their place....to remain where they are when asking and respond accordingly

 

Deirdre 21:18:52 CST

WEll said, orli......*clapping My gloved hands at her beautiful response*

 

Kha 21:19:05 CST

that I know amira ..but sometimes that does not happen ..

 

~segen~{All} 21:19:15 CST

It is Master Loki, although there are real people behind the "characters"...(but again, that's just my opinion)

 

Laroona 21:19:31 CST

exactly orli *S*

 

Rollo_the_Ax 21:19:35 CST

Would you all like to know a little secret ??? About Rollo and how * I * see things ???? Okay, here goes.... If * I * had the power, all to myself, I would do away with drinks and food in GS..... except where a Master and a slave wanted to do so.... GS slaves are NOT waitress or cocttail girls... they should be SLAVES and not spend so much time playing car hops for FAKE drinks... perhaps the fact that * I * don't take serves shades my judgement.... perhaps the fact that I don't take even VT drinks here because I am/was an alcoholic, so to even take * play * drink is bad for me.... take your choice....

 

Penny 21:19:45 CST

Yes, Loki, it is, but I know that aside from the roleplay, many are just plain old friends. 

*smiles* 

In my case, I come in not so much to roleplay out being a FW, I just come in to be with people who have read the books, feel similarly about life ideals, that sort of thing. 

I wouldn't go into a church chat and expect to find people who think women should serve men... I like to come here because I know that some people think similarly, or they probably wouldn't be here.

 

amira 21:19:47 CST

~chuckles softly and points to orli~ 

~ although amira does agree with her completely

 

Kha 21:20:29 CST

that it is Loki ... and it is of putting for the ones that wish to roleplay .... and some one is in talking about r\t stuff ~ it does not really set the scene does it ~

 

~segen~{All} 21:20:56 CST

Well agree whole heartedly with that Master Rollo ~nodding~

 

Kha 21:21:02 CST

sorry orli ~ smiles ~ why did I get you too mixed up ~

 

whispers{GS} 21:21:31 CST

Master Rollo You could have not put it more better, at times thats EXCATLY how whispers feels. nutten more than a nakid waitress!

 

Penny 21:21:36 CST

segen, I'm just remembering the time when people with similar ideology gathered, and r/t talk was just a part of what went on in roleplay a lot of the time...

 

orli 21:21:43 CST

no worries Mistress *winks at Mistress Kha~

 

Loki 21:22:02 CST

No it doesnt Kha, r/t has no place here IMO

 

~segen~{All} 21:22:24 CST

~nodding as she hears You speak~ yes Mitress Penny, segen could see that happening

 

Laroona 21:22:34 CST

Captain Rollo 

I had slaves mouths glued together with gooy candy they other day and all who played had a ball.. and those entering too... as slaves were motioning desires to serve etc.... 

that to me and the other Free was slaves still remaining pleasing whilst in some service *S*

 

orli 21:24:23 CST

Master Rollo....orli would agree with You by about 50%.....GS is afterall a Paga Tavern.....but as much as orli loves to performs serves...they do after a time become achingly boring....but that is up tp the slaves to find other things to entertain their roleplay 

like the other day....segen drank from the fountain in the Piazza....as any good beast would do..and orli nudged her.....segen pushed back and both ended up soaking in the water...it was great fun and orli would look forward to doing a roleplay like that again...the Free present were not upset that we weren't falling all over ourselves trying to serve.....since they required nothing....yet we were still pleasing and might actually even been entertaining in out playful antics

 

Kha 21:25:03 CST

then why whispers when I ask girls for conversation ...does everyone go quiet and nothing is said ~many moons ago if a girl wished to get noticed ..she made herself seen .. by either talk .. mischief ..a little i s good ... chores ... all to colour a room ... setting the scene so to speak ~

 

orli 21:26:29 CST

exactly Mistress Kha *ws~

 

Kha 21:27:14 CST

when I ask to serve Them girl They run for cover ..or put on waterproof breeches~

 

amira 21:28:38 CST

~ a girl doesnt believe that Rp needs to be limited to serving food drinks or furring for that matter. 

it was even something brought up in slave class a long time ago. about offering different things other than just food serves... 

most slaves at least that amira sees want the challenge in RP.

 

~segen~{All} 21:28:52 CST

Mistress Kha, cause they KNOW You? ~playful laugh~

 

orli 21:29:27 CST

*smiles and nods...agreeing with amira...remembering that slave class~

 

Laroona 21:29:55 CST

I think segen has had several bathes in the fountain at various times... some voluntary some not so LOL

 

orli 21:30:36 CST

*chuckles with Mistress Laroona~

 

Kha 21:30:47 CST

laughing at segan's words perhaps or My Reputation goes before Me ~

 

~segen~{All} 21:31:08 CST

~blushing hard as she hears Mistress Laroona~ mmmmm segen's a dirty dirty girl?? ~impish grin~ 

Actually the fountain is at least something else to roleplay and interact with...when not serving or cleaning it does give segen something to "do" and most off when she heads there it's going to be playful! it's a wonderful roleplay tool that she uses! ~smiling~

 

roni{GS} 21:31:22 CST

*hearing amira's comment and remembering Master Loki request for service one day*

 

~segen~{All} 21:31:50 CST

Mistress Kha, before You, behind You, aong side You *snickering softly*

 

Laroona 21:31:57 CST

exactly segen and why 

because it pleases free... *S

 

Kha 21:32:29 CST

segan ..you just like to be wet .. what ever which way ~ lol~

 

Rollo_the_Ax 21:32:32 CST

Folks, there is not going to any * magic bullet * here that we can come up with to fix this situation .... it will require effort from EVERYBODY to make things better.... All that we can do is to ALL try that little bit harder to make things better....

 

Loki 21:32:48 CST

~chuckling~ amaze Me with your wit girl....

 

amira 21:32:50 CST

even slaves are not completely limited............ in what they offer although at times it is preconceived. 

but for a slave to offer a back or foot rub.. a dance.... 

to wash the Masters leather britches~ 

impish grin~ 

even we as slaves tend to forget that we are much more than waitresses

 

~segen~{All} 21:33:30 CST

Mistress Laroona (a personal comment inserted here)...it makes me happy to play and i find i am more pleasing to free when i'm happy. For me, it's a win win... 

Mistess Kha, well a true IS a true...*laughing*

 

Rollo_the_Ax 21:38:49 CST

It is time that we call it a night ........ We have gone overtime.... If there are more issues that y'all want to dicuss, how about we save it for next week ???

 

orli 21:39:20 CST

orli has nothing Master Rollo *ws~

 

21:39:26 CST

well done Rollo..

 

Laroona 21:39:36 CST

IMO I believe that if we of GS, all worked together 

get rid of the perceived cliques that are showing of late... then we are on the right track.... 

slaves entering to serve in any form be it drinks, food, dancing, or any other form of service..and free interacting with each other.. in say in trading with Zoran, as an example... then maybe we can move forward 

yes segen I will still dunk you LOL

 

Ulrich 21:39:36 CST

Thanks Rollo

 

orli 21:39:58 CST

orli thanks You for hosting forum Master

 

Penny 21:40:19 CST

Goodnight, Rollo, and thank you for your time in leading the forum! 

Please give galah love from me, I miss her terribly.

 

Laroona 21:40:21 CST

thank you Captain Rollo 

thank you indie *s*

 

Rollo_the_Ax 21:40:31 CST

So saying, I want to thank everybody for coming and taking part in tonights forum...... We will have it agasin next week...same time, same place....

 

~segen~{All} 21:40:40 CST

Mistress Laroona, i agree and, shockingly i'm happy to her that! something out of the ordinary is ALWAYS welcomed by me, even if i get dunked!

 

~segen~{All} 21:41:02 CST

thank You for allowing segen to attend....~smiling to all~

 

Xertog 21:41:48 CST

Don't forget the festival is next Friday and Saturday.

 

Kha 21:41:55 CST

thank You Rollo ~ smiles~

 

shadow{Ulrich} 21:42:05 CST

shadow thanks You Master Rollo.. 

she wishes all well.. ~smiles.. ~ 

~hanging tight to Master.. ~

 

roni{GS} 21:42:11 CST

Thank You Master

 

Sandman,,Builder_ 21:42:21 CST

Thank you Rollo

 

Laroona 21:43:04 CST

eeek thanks Xertog I need to prepare some pages on the site....

 

Loki 21:44:35 CST

thank You Captain Rollo..

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