O COLLARS ANY PLEDGED FREE
Xertog 19:39:20 CST
Before we start the forum there is a quick announcement about a change in the GS rules.
Rollo_the_Ax 19:39:56 CST
So, do you have a scribe ready Laroona ??? shall we begin ???
Xertog 19:41:03 CST
The Council will allow any GS pledged patron to give an GS observer collar. They will be good for two weeks from when they are posted on the main message board. A Captain may nullify these collars as they see fit.
Ramses 19:42:20 CST
nods in agreement with Xertog's announcement ...
Lemuel 19:42:35 CST
~listening to the announcement~
Loki 19:42:53 CST
Aye Captain~nodding in understanding~
Rollo_the_Ax 19:42:59 CST
shaking my bald head...... Okay, that dropped post was answering a question about me saying that I had been up to my ass in alligators....LOL...LOL... I have had too many RT problems and events to list, to explain why I have not been on-line at all in the past week or so.....
Zoran 19:43:35 CST
nods in agreement with the new rule so it is a temp Collar till the Captain have time to see the new collar slave
Laroona 19:44:03 CST
nodding as I listen to Xertog a great idea as often it is difficult for a council member to be around when some needing O collars are around *S*
Xertog 19:46:10 CST
No Zoran it's a GS Observer collar. Before just Council members could give them. Since any GS pledge can collar a slave for the tavern we saw no reason why they couldn't also do the observer collar too.
Rollo_the_Ax 19:46:32 CST
It should be noted that the Council HOPES that common sense will be used by any patron doing so.... To keep things * in hand * and not just slapping collars on at whim .... and that it is also required to post it on the message board to make it so......
Zoran 19:46:53 CST
nods
Loki 19:47:57 CST
~nods to both Captains~
Lemuel 19:49:03 CST
~nods as I listen~
Laroona 19:49:13 CST
aye Captains if one has time to collar one should have time to post LOL
Zoran 19:49:14 CST
lol so we cna just throw them up in the air and were they land is good lol
I am just kidding Captains
I understand
Zoran 19:50:14 CST
wow we get to post new slaves dam that is quick LOL
Laroona 19:51:35 CST
Zoran to post on the boards... I meant LOL
Zoran 19:52:32 CST
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh grining
Rollo_the_Ax 19:52:35 CST
Okay, now that the change has been announced, we will move on to the regular forum.... same rules as always .... does anybody have a topic or question they wish discussed ????
Xertog 19:55:39 CST
Before we start on a topic I'd like people to stop suggesting topics that are meant as veiled shots at others.
Lemuel 19:56:42 CST
An excellent suggestion Xertog.
Loki 19:56:57 CST
~nodding to Xertog~
Rollo_the_Ax 19:58:00 CST
????? Has that been done today. brother ??? or at past forums ???
SLAVES BEHAVIOR -SERVING ETC
Rollo_the_Ax 20:00:24 CST
So far today, I have one question...* when is a slave ready to go from whit silk to yellow as it seem cloudy to me...* and one * Can we bring up slave rudeness and slave entrances ? ...* ....?????
Xertog 20:01:34 CST
It was done the last week but it's been done in other weeks too.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:02:07 CST
And just now I received.... * what purpose does a slave enter GS?
and to whom does a slave owe her first duty to within a serve? ....*
Lemuel 20:02:57 CST
~listening to the topics~
Zoran 20:03:05 CST
are you think these questions are ask to hurt some one Captain
Laroona 20:04:07 CST
IMO when slaves have a firm grasp on slavery and some knowledge of some serves... and the ability to be alluring in those serves before one is given yellows
Zoran 20:05:22 CST
so the white is to protect?
Rollo_the_Ax 20:05:39 CST
Okay, brother...I understand now.... Lets just try a rather simple but effective method to deal with such actions.... Lets see ??? how to put this ??? Okay, how about ... ** If you don't have the BALLS to speak clearly, plainly, and to somebody elses FACE...... DON'T try to back stab them HERE !!!!!!! ** does that seem to cover it ????????? LOL...LOL..
Laroona 20:05:43 CST
as for slaves entering I have of late seen some poor entrances.... and slaves standing in doorways and not entering to serve...
this that raises the question on the purpose of why enter
dove{GS} 20:05:50 CST
thinks slaves first purpose is to please her Master..or Mistress...and her actions in her serve reflects upon Them...
then to the Master or Mistress being served..their pleasure in it...
Lemuel 20:05:58 CST
As I recall, there were certain requirements for "yellow silk" in the GS training manual. Knowledge of the menu, a few basic positions, etc.
Ramses 20:06:15 CST
nods in agreement with Laroona .. but then that is somewhat qualitative .. which by its natures leaves the decision open to some ... cloudiness
Loki 20:06:43 CST
isnt there a checklist so to speak that the white silk must go threw and pass before becoming a yellow? showing that she is proficient in those things being a new slave?
Lemuel 20:06:47 CST
~grins and nods at Rollo's words~
Zoran 20:07:15 CST
begins to speak
ok that covers it Rollo
sit back
Rollo_the_Ax 20:07:38 CST
No, Zoran.... todays questions are all proper and well based....
Zoran 20:08:21 CST
if a slave is not given permission they should sit and wait
for that is what I have know form the past but some seem to leave rather then wait
Kha 20:08:33 CST
I have to ask if You ask a slave a straight question ... do You expect a straight answer ..
Zoran 20:08:42 CST
nods to Rollo
Lemuel 20:09:04 CST
IMO a slave's first duty within a serve is to the One she is serving.
Zoran 20:09:29 CST
well if they don't give it they better be ready to duck Kha
Laroona 20:09:50 CST
Zoran not in the Piazza is begging to enter required by Personal slaves
only for the tavern
and all GS owned slaves need not beg entry
Kha 20:10:16 CST
nods My sentiment exactly ....
Laroona 20:11:01 CST
nodding I agree Lemuel *S*
Zoran 20:11:16 CST
so they just run in to the Piazza
that brings me should they greet
or do they wait to be given permission
Rollo_the_Ax 20:11:59 CST
white, yellow, red.... think of the silk colors much the same as stripes or degrees... a private does not know as much as a corporal... and a corporal does not know as much as a sergeant... to promote anybody BEFORE they know how to FULLY handle their past rank, is just asking for trouble....
Zoran 20:12:01 CST
very true Lemuel
if Master is not happy you not done you duty
dove{GS} 20:12:21 CST
nods agreeing with Master Lemuel...
ultimately...though..a slave is owned..and is bound by that Masters...Mistresses will...
if He or she says serve this way..or that...she must heed...it is her purpose..
though to be pleasing to those she serves as well..
Kha 20:12:28 CST
Zoran~ they should greet~
Zoran 20:12:45 CST
thinking i done that in RT
promoting before ready
Laroona 20:12:50 CST
they enter, and greet then offer to serve no mater what room they enter
whispers{GS} 20:13:34 CST
whispers also thinks that perhaps a day a month or so should be set aside so if one needed to be tested they can do so. It is difficult to get a Captain to test especially if one does dancing and the other does the verbal test. So if One can be there at the same day then everything could be taken care of.
Zoran 20:14:32 CST
but my slave is always train to ask before she greets if I am there and that is my choice as her Master
Laroona 20:15:27 CST
that is your choice Zoran... if not then the other protocols should be used IMO....
Laroona 20:17:59 CST
this is not pointed at any but is to the questions in hand
I have been observing and of late and to my disgust noticed several slaves in the kennels, training yards and YET Free entering after the slaves have established their "slave conventions" remain untended and unserved. This showing of Free of both genders in the tavern or piazza and slaves in other rooms is IMO unacceptable,
and demonstrates slaves are either lazy or selective in whom they serve,
will state that the most prominent of these slaves are personally owned slaves of pledged free.
amira 20:18:29 CST
takes a breath.
in the Piazza the proper way for a GS girl to enter is to come in take a camisk put it on go to the serving furs kneel in tower
Greet and offer serve
Gs slaves entering the Tavern do not beg they go in kneel nadu on the serving furs...... greet and offer serve
Descriptions vary . usually it has always been understood in the Piazza there is no show of Heat in Respect to the FW's that may be present
the Tavern ......... a girl shows heat .....
serves and entry are expected to be descriptive pleasing to the eye and the room
amira 20:19:16 CST
Personal slaves do not beg entry to the Piazza...
they DO beg entry to the Tavern
Laroona 20:20:43 CST
thus what is their purpose of entering if unwilling to serve
I have observed Free sitting for over a ahn on more than one occasion
whispers{GS} 20:22:29 CST
whispers does not go into the tavern or Piazza unless she A has the time to serve or B has the desire to serve. lately its been hard for her to be in the tavern to serve bc her heart hasnt been there. but she tries to make sure she greets and serves each free when she sees them
Zoran 20:24:12 CST
so in the past I have been in the yard and many come in to watch I not seen it of late Laroona but I do remember in the past what you speak of
Rollo_the_Ax 20:26:11 CST
RULES are set by the Council, to define a minimum level of acceptable behavior.... it is always a CHOICE of every free or slave to follow these set levels.... GS slaves are REQUIRED to adhere...private slaves are EXPECTED to do so also, but they must follow the wishes of their PRIVATE Master first.... and when it is all said and done, who does it right and who does it wrong is little more than proof of each persons PERSONAL commitment and honor ....
Laroona 20:26:31 CST
slaves sitting in rooms where no free is one thing'
when free are sitting in other rooms whilst free are alone with no slaves is another issue
Zoran 20:27:16 CST
well said Rollo
amira 20:27:27 CST
but isnt it in fact more than just having the time to serve that should be important?
any actions by any slaves with in GS directly reflects on GS
if a slave either personal or GS owned acts badly
doesnt that reflect on GS.
what IS the impression we are putting out to the Community of Gor . if slaves have the ability to be rude. or be displeasing. or ignore Ones they would rather Not serve.
in all honesty i believe it goes back to the question placed on the bards by jessi a few weeks ago
and by Master Rollo as well
what IS each individuals purpose for being here ?
Deirdre 20:29:17 CST
And there it is, Captain ROllo. Therein lies the problem. The Oones that either project that behavior....or allow it.....have NO Personal Commitment and Honor. They are the Oones causing the problems for Tthose of Uus who do .
~segen~{All} 20:29:30 CST
~clearing her throat to ask a question~ (no i fully preface this, with i rarely come to GS anymore, and as a slave i have no homestone so you are free to disregard the question)
Why is it, that if a Free DOES happen to be in another room and sees slaves about, that they can't whisper to a slave and ask for service? (thinking that in a tavern or a restraunt when someone is not seen they lift their head and call for service)...Now this is the premise that perhaps they are unnoticed not that a girl is unwilling to serve, but why can't they just say "HEY, i'm HERE"....
Zoran 20:31:07 CST
segen is not the place of the Master to ask to be serve
the lilone should ask if Master needs service when they see them
Kha 20:31:23 CST
I quite often send slaves to Men in the Tavern ..because I have been more diligent perhaps and seen the Man sitting there twiddling His ..hmmmm thumbs
~segen~{All} 20:32:19 CST
Master Zoran, where i understand fully what You are saying, if i were Free, i would Not sit and wait if i did see someone about. i would ask for service if i was not freely given (or actually i'd probably get up and fix myself a drink because free can do that too when there is no slaves about *smiling*)...and i wish to add, i'm not saying You're wrong at all!
Loki 20:32:44 CST
~nodding to Zoran~ well said
Laroona 20:33:01 CST
Kha I do that also I try and ensure all are served
amira 20:33:03 CST
but segen IF a slave is IN GS should she or he not be watching the rooms........ ?
it seems a two sided blade to that question
tis said that if a slave comes to GS they should be prepared to serve.
but a Free should have to PM the slave to get them to serve.
Who ultimately has the responsibility?
Penny 20:33:55 CST
*slipping in and reading back to try to catch up on the topic*
~segen~{All} 20:34:02 CST
amira, i'm not saying that a slave should stop watching...what i'm saying is, if i were free, i would not sit and wait if service had not been offered.
Zoran 20:34:04 CST
segen if I have to ask I will not be polite weg
samira{GS} 20:34:31 CST
the slaves are to be aware of Those that are coming and going and offer service in timely fashion
valmir GS}O 20:34:46 CST
well Mistress valmir will see that Your horn is always full *s*
~segen~{All} 20:34:51 CST
Master Zoran, Oh i agree with that and i do not think it SHOULD be polite at that point! I think that might be a good wake up call to be honest.
~segen~{All} 20:35:31 CST
People, i am not honestly saying it's not a slave's responsibility...
Zoran 20:35:36 CST
nods to segen
amira 20:36:08 CST
~just playing devils advocate as it were segen?~
~ impish grin~
Laroona 20:36:23 CST
Zoran I agree it is not up to free to yell for service
~segen~{All} 20:36:34 CST
Master Zoran, i think what i'm speaking of is being mmmm proactive in a sense. if You see a girl about and she's not coming in to offer serive as she should then YES, wake her up...
Kha 20:37:09 CST
so segan ..am I getting this right .. do you think slaves are behaving like this ..because they need to be put back in their place ?
~segen~{All} 20:37:10 CST
amira *grinning*..as am i to an extent...of course i am one of his advocates so it's easier *laughing*
Loki 20:37:54 CST
a slave doenst want Me to wake her up~growlin~
Reina 20:37:59 CST
Smiling gently.. I have to agree with the others that Free should not have to ask for service...
Zoran 20:38:00 CST
segen lilone we are discussing here
and if need I will wake her up lol
but I see you playin devil advocate
lol
Deirdre 20:38:05 CST
Kha.......segen is speaking of being proactive rather than reactive. And for the record.....segen is one of the first slaves that I see ALWAYS offering service.....
~segen~{All} 20:38:11 CST
Mistress Kha, that i can't answer. Until three days ago i've not stepped in GS in months. i don't know if what's spoken of is a honest problem or if it's a percieved sight by a Free. However, if it was happening and i was the Free about...yes i probably would give the wake up call (but then again, that's me)
amira 20:38:36 CST
so does that only apply to a group of slaves in the Kennels.
or a does it also apply to slaves collected in a private room as well?
samira{GS} 20:38:47 CST
~glancing over to Master Loki and nodding in agreement~
Laroona 20:38:49 CST
OK another scenario
slaves having their convention.. only time free cannot expect service is during slave class....
but why even enter if not prepared to be a slave..
slaves duty is to be pleasing at all times
to sit and not enter to serve or even PM if service is required is definitely unpleasing of any slave
Zoran 20:39:10 CST
nods to Loki
I think if I wake them up they will need the help of Deirdre and her medicine lol
Deirdre 20:39:27 CST
And just for the record.......and not addressed to ANY slave present at this forum........I think that some of the privately owned NEW slaves DO need to be put in their place. they have forgotten the definition of the word "slave"....but that is My o-pinion.
~segen~{All} 20:39:38 CST
Master Loki, i bet if you woke me up, and i was in a different room, i'd not forget to look again for Ya.....just a thought...
amira, i have no idea what the rules are for private rooms, i assume some are used for specific reasons....that i personally can't answer, mayhap someone else can?
Rollo_the_Ax 20:40:54 CST
And if that is so, lady Deirdre... HOW can we MAKE them act with honor ??? How can we force them to commit ??? Who is the greater fool ??? The one that has no honor, or the one that cries out at the others lack of it ??? Can ANYBODY change a stone into a bird by yelling at it or losing their temper ??? If the stone is shown the path, and still chooses to remain a stone, then who else should lose sleep over its choice ???? Spend your time with the BIRDS, and ignore the stones...... you will be more happy, and so will the stone......
~segen~{All} 20:41:31 CST
Is it not possible for some to want to enter to be around something familiar? Something they know, people they care about?
amira 20:42:11 CST
but yet once again ..... tis more a matter of appearances.
now im not saying that slaves dont have the right to be in private rooms talking...
but if a Free enters and there are only four or five slaves not visible and seemingly in a private room yet none come out to acknowledge or offer.
what type of reflection is this making on GS
Penny 20:42:13 CST
*listening to Rollo's very wise words*
Loki 20:42:21 CST
~chuckling~ Aye a slave would never forget the encounter, thats for sure...., but it should never happen in the first, some slaves have become lazy in there duties of serving the Free..
samira{GS} 20:42:29 CST
nicely put Master Rollo
Laroona 20:42:44 CST
slaves have choices is that what you are trying to say segen
they can be selective whom they serve???
~segen~{All} 20:43:30 CST
Mster Loki, segen NEVER EVER said it SHOULD happen, but offered an alternative if it does.
amira, your words are spoken of GS so i would guess you mean GS slaves...i will defer to them to answer that one
Deirdre 20:43:50 CST
*looking directly at Captain Rollo*
I do not feel that I am a fool to expect Oothers to act appropriately here in GS. I really don't, Captain. I get angry when I see protocol being completely ignored.......when I see slaves being smart-mouth to Free......when I get personally threatened for "flaming" a slave. I am not a fool........but I sure as hell am angry.
Lemuel 20:44:09 CST
~settling back to listen again~
~segen~{All} 20:44:49 CST
Mistress Laroona, the choice the slave makes is whether to enter or not. After that, no, i'm not saying at all that they have a choice on whom to serve. i'm answering one of Your questions however as to sometimes why slaves enter. (but i could only be speaking for myself) i have learned the hard way not to enter GS depending upon my moods...and as most have seen, i have just not been around.
Penny 20:45:08 CST
segen, I know that in general, for a long time, actually, I wouldn't even log into GS unless I saw an old friend in.
BUT, I've been trying to log in just for the purpose of making new friends, since new people deserve the chance to become old friends, of that makes any sense? hehe.
*hugs segen because I'm so happy to see her here in the forum... hughughug*
amira 20:46:35 CST
honestly amira would think it should be a question thought about for any slave entering any Gorean site..
but that is simply this girls opinion
samira{GS} 20:46:39 CST
amira, not a good one in this ones book. if there are slaves about, or even just one, they should come out of hiding, greet and offer service
samira herself has seen some that just sit in rooms
~segen~{All} 20:46:41 CST
~smiling brightly to Mistress Penny~ Yes it does completely, and i have done the same (well not coming in to make new friends but only when i see old)...
Because i do not feel i represent a Gorean slave well enough these days, most times i do not enter, because if i come in as a slave, i do know what's expected of me and if i can't do it, i shouldn't be there.
Laroona 20:46:45 CST
so when they enter their choices are null and void
dove{GS} 20:47:23 CST
of course...GS slaves should be the first ones to up..and leave whatever they are doing to serve the Free,,,
but so should personally owned slaves...they are here to serve as well...right?~
~segen~{All} 20:48:35 CST
Mistress Laroona, well i suppose that's a yes and no. i've certainly entered before when i was not acting as a slave should because i have free will in real time. But theoretically, yes. Once she enters she should adhere to the rules of the site. Actually You have the same responsibly as a FW...to act in accordance of a FW or face the consequences there in.
Penny 20:49:33 CST
*nodding to segen*
Yeah, I don't feel that I represent much of anything but a mess these days... heh. BUT, I'm having a good time coming in when I can, and that's what matters in the long run, I think.
*cheerful smiles*
It should be about fun, and interacting with new people can be lots of fun with a positive attitude.
*nods bunches*
{Ruilans_ariel} 20:49:59 CST
*sighs and steps up* as a privately owned slave, i admit to being guilty of what is being spoke of.
i rarely enter the piazza.
for a long time, i did not enter because i was restricted from entering by my Master.
now, i usually do not enter from choice.
my fault. i'll fix it.
it will not happen anymore.
Laroona 20:50:17 CST
segen this was not meant to be personal as was stated clearly earlier
I know my place and need not any slave to remind me of it
Rollo_the_Ax 20:50:41 CST
WHY is it ALWAYS taken as a * reflection * on the room or site ???? If one hundred flowers are in a field, and one or two weeds sprout, why is it always about the WEEDS and NOT the flowers ?????? Does GS have GOOD people around ???? YES !!!!! does that mean that it will never have an asshole come in ????? HELL NO !!!!! but is GS the lesser for allowing even assholes to come and TRY to learn, or should we turn it into a PRIVATE little club of ONLY those we LIKE ?????? THAT is what KILLS sites.... close the doors to ALL, and you may as well shut the place down...it is in its death throws....
~segen~{All} 20:51:13 CST
Mistress Penny, i agree with you so fully and completely we're like one tonight (which should scare the crap out of You or Master Kyoto *giggling*)...
When it stopped being any fun for me anymore, and there were more tears then smiles it was time to step back for me.
Kha 20:51:19 CST
ariel ...your honesty girl is from the heart ~
{Ruilans_ariel} 20:51:58 CST
thanks Mistress Kha.
and with that, i am creeping off to bed.
farewell all.
~segen~{All} 20:52:03 CST
Mistress Laroona, i was not reminding You of Your place Mistress.. i was saying how we all have choices and expectations wether in the role of slave, or Fw or even FM...
whispers{GS} 20:52:22 CST
perhaps its the weeds that grow deep within the earth and spreed under the flowers that cause the most damage Captain
Deirdre 20:52:23 CST
*blinking at the Captain's post*
Laroona 20:52:45 CST
nodding to ariel and her honesty
you was obeying your Master
and BTW folks I am not speaking about myself... it is from observations of how both FM and FW are treated
Kha 20:53:37 CST
nods to Rollo's words ~
Rollo_the_Ax 20:54:06 CST
ariel... WHY DO SO ????? If you know deep down in your heart that you do NOT want to go into a certain room for whatever reason, WHY do so just to placate others ????? Is it better to go where you do NOT want to be just to * save face * ???? or better to go where you KNOW that you will enjoy and be enjoyed ?????
Deirdre 20:54:53 CST
Captain Rollo.....You know that I hold great respect for You. I have for Many, Many years. But I am not speaking of homilies or platitudes here. I am speaking of the realities of coming in GS day after day and having to deal with things that should NOT be allowed. That is what I am addressing. That is what I am speaking of.
~segen~{All} 20:55:45 CST
~tilting head at Master Rollo's words~
Because in the role as slave, there are no choices....ariel cannot come in to talk to friends when she is having a bad day. to feel the comfort of her home about her and what's familure without fulfilling the "role" wether or not she wishes to go in and serve that moment or that person.
Laroona 20:56:47 CST
listening and nodding as Captain Rollo speaks
and Deidre
I think we are trying hard to make GS even better than it is.... and to see it slipping hurts
Rollo_the_Ax 20:58:11 CST
whispers.... a weed may TRY to choke out the flowers... but it can not do so unless the flower lets it do so.... and the flower will stay a flower, unless it gives up and lets itself become just another weed......
Deirdre 20:58:37 CST
*nodding to Laroona*
Yes....it hurts like hell. Sometimes it feels as if I am yelling into the wind. The very foundation that GS sits on.....those protocols that Norman created that we follow as much as possible here......are being watered down.......or ignored. My opinion.
roni{GS} 20:59:32 CST
*listening to segan knowing roni feels like that sometime just needs a sister to speak with before serving Any*
bahi{HoK} 20:59:52 CST
~ speaks quietly~
Is it possible that the glass is being viewed as half empty rather than half full? GS isn't such a bad place.. mostly filled with pretty decent people.. Free and slave.. but to sit here and listen tonight.. it doesn't seem that the good in the people here is being seen.. and not at all spoken of.. slaves serve.. a lot.. and never is that spoken of as much as the more rare missed serve
Lemuel 21:00:01 CST
~taking up Rollo's metaphor~ And flowers need a little shit now and then to help them grow.
amira 21:00:26 CST
~with all due respect Master Rollo~
tis not so much the fact that the weeds are growing.
its more the fact...... that they are getting so big, and rather than speak or acknowledge that there are weeds...
they are simply ignored.
am i saying that we ignore or get rid of the perceive weeds.
absolutely not
all this girl is asking is that we tend the WHOLE Garden. and not just a few patches of it
Penny 21:00:47 CST
What an excellent analogy, just for everyday life...
"A flower will stay a flower unless it gives up and lets itself become a weed".
I like that.
*nods nods*
whispers{GS} 21:00:59 CST
not only that Master Lemuel but they also need a hand to guide them and watch them grow into beautiful blossoms, often whispers does not see that
Deirdre 21:01:29 CST
*hearing Lem's comment and bursting out laughing*
Then......well........GS should be FLOURISHING.....because.....well.........lots and lots of crap happening.
Penny 21:01:38 CST
*pulling out my weed whacker and making meanie faces*
Bad weeds. Grrrrrrrr.
Kha 21:03:28 CST
whispers ...maybe because the flowers are all hiding away from the watering cans and hoes ...it is harder being a tavern slave than any ..because you are not privately owned ..but belong to GS ..so in that do you not belong to all that is pledged to the Homestone ?
Laroona 21:03:53 CST
laughing indeed Dei slaves would be blossoming
on the point raised if ppl only want to chat about their day there are other chat formats to utilize
as entering GS is not the purpose of self gratification but to serve others and be pleasing...
roni{GS} 21:04:49 CST
many times roni has offered to serve Free and she gets rejected plenty of times....this might be why some slaves are not offering to serve like they should either...just roni's opinion that is all.....roni finds it discouraging when Free do not want service
Rollo_the_Ax 21:05:04 CST
Okay.... I know for a FACT that one rule the Council set a LONG time ago was that for a slave, if they feel that they can NOT be * pleasing * if they enter the tavern or Piazza, that they should plainly NOT do so.... these women KNOW themselves well enough to know when they are having a BAD day .... does that mean that they can't enter a PRIVATE room and whisper to their friends for support or comfort ???? The day that GS will NOT allow such, is the day that THIS old dog will stand DOWN....
~segen~{All} 21:05:12 CST
Well, ~thinking~ is it possible to have maybe a rt room somewhere or a hidden rt room where if people do need to talk for a moment before getting into the right mind set that they could?? Not everyone has IM's...maybe a little real chat room?
Penny 21:05:30 CST
I know that I'd like to get to know the GS chain better, I enjoy talking with the ones that I see (and sharing my sugar fantasies with them... hehe... everyone should be as cookie obsessed as me.. *nods nods*).
I'd like to see lots of happy, smiling faces in the public rooms lots and lots.
~segen~{All} 21:06:35 CST
~whispering to amira and pointing to Master Rollo's words~ Well it looks like we see know that a slave can go private if she needs to without being thought worse of or thought of being unattentive...
Thank You for the clarification, Master Rollo!
Penny 21:07:02 CST
roni, I know I'd rather talk and joke around with slaves than have them run around doing a serve.
OR, if a slave serves, I want the serve to be quick, so we can play with the food... heh.
Kha 21:07:20 CST
that might be an idea ....what about using the Forum room as that then as its only used on mondays
amira 21:07:41 CST
~smiles and nods~
that cleared that question at the very least indeed
whispers{GS} 21:07:51 CST
whispers has also seen it where there will be three or four girls and one is sent out to serve in the Piazza bc the Master doesnt particularly like the slave. ect
~segen~{All} 21:08:23 CST
oooo that's an idea Mistress Kha, mayhap if a Free sees a slave or slaves in the forum they know they are speaking rt stuff and not roleplay?
roni{GS} 21:09:05 CST
Yes Mistress Penny from roni's understanding a slave is serving if they are speaking in conversations
roni is speaking of Ones that just flat out say NO or They do not have a need for it
Kha 21:09:28 CST
why do the slaves here seem to think the only way of serving is getting a drink .. food or on the furs ..what ever happenned to talk....play ... and fun ~
Ulrich 21:09:29 CST
roni there are times I come here expecting an rti, or there is a good chance of it. I'll always decline a serve then.
Doesn't mean a slave shouldn't offer. That's not her place to decide
Laroona 21:10:21 CST
that would work... *S*
or in whispers...
I am having a crappy day.. I be Ok in a few ... I needed to settle down... so I can be a pleasing slave ..if i enter now I cannot be the best slave...
~segen~{All} 21:10:34 CST
i agree with You Mistress Kha...perosnally when in a room and NOT in use (after offering service) i try to play...to make people laugh, to remember that gor WAS a fun loving place where they partied damn hard too *L*
roni{GS} 21:10:45 CST
Yes Master Ulrich roni wasn't saying that Master
roni was just saying it is discouraging to be turned a lot
Deirdre 21:10:53 CST
roni.......I say no to a serve quite often.....but I do so graciously.......and I always thank the slave for offering. Sometimes I know My time is limited....so receiving a service isn't realistic.
~segen~{All} 21:11:14 CST
Wonderful Mistress Laroona!! That's awesome so that people understand that a slave (or FW or FM) is getting to the roleplay place but may not be there the moment they enter
Kha 21:13:00 CST
Captain ..can We not have the forum for r\t stuff ? as most are friends as well as goreans ..that way all can go there not just slaves .. the them and Us syndrome ~
Laroona 21:13:44 CST
I usually say no thanks not at this time
I appreciate the offer of a serve
there are several ways to have interaction in GS
~segen~{All} 21:13:57 CST
Mistress Kha, i think that's a great idea too, not just slaves, ANYONE...that wants a bit rt before roleplay or after or whatever.
Laroona 21:14:45 CST
but there should be a limit that one sits in a rt only room not ahns on end ... IMO
Penny 21:14:53 CST
I'd probably never make it into any of the other rooms, then, since all I tend to talk about is r/t... heh.
~segen~{All} 21:15:39 CST
Also agree with that Mistrss Laroona
Kha 21:16:02 CST
dont forget that We get it to girls.. if We do not answer quick enough for the slaves liking .. impatience as if We are ignoring you ... sometimes My injections in My hands are running out and are killing Me and its taking Me a long time to type or take out the typos ~
Loki 21:16:19 CST
this is a role play site is it not?
Penny 21:16:45 CST
I just remember what things were like when all we had was one room... people talked about "stuff" in the context of what they were doing in a roleplay sense...
roni{GS} 21:17:12 CST
*wonders if roni might ask a question then without it being taken the wrong way of that is trying to be difficult because roni isn't going to try and be that way at all*
~segen~{All} 21:17:26 CST
What do You mean Mistress Penny?
orli 21:18:09 CST
*turns to Mistress Kha~
learning patience is the first test for a slave....at least it should be....it is not up to a slave to determine how long it takes for a Free to decide if they wish for service.........a Free could take 2 ahns to reply if they wished it....it is for the slave to know their place....to remain where they are when asking and respond accordingly
Deirdre 21:18:52 CST
WEll said, orli......*clapping My gloved hands at her beautiful response*
Kha 21:19:05 CST
that I know amira ..but sometimes that does not happen ..
~segen~{All} 21:19:15 CST
It is Master Loki, although there are real people behind the "characters"...(but again, that's just my opinion)
Laroona 21:19:31 CST
exactly orli *S*
Rollo_the_Ax 21:19:35 CST
Would you all like to know a little secret ??? About Rollo and how * I * see things ???? Okay, here goes.... If * I * had the power, all to myself, I would do away with drinks and food in GS..... except where a Master and a slave wanted to do so.... GS slaves are NOT waitress or cocttail girls... they should be SLAVES and not spend so much time playing car hops for FAKE drinks... perhaps the fact that * I * don't take serves shades my judgement.... perhaps the fact that I don't take even VT drinks here because I am/was an alcoholic, so to even take * play * drink is bad for me.... take your choice....
Penny 21:19:45 CST
Yes, Loki, it is, but I know that aside from the roleplay, many are just plain old friends.
*smiles*
In my case, I come in not so much to roleplay out being a FW, I just come in to be with people who have read the books, feel similarly about life ideals, that sort of thing.
I wouldn't go into a church chat and expect to find people who think women should serve men... I like to come here because I know that some people think similarly, or they probably wouldn't be here.
amira 21:19:47 CST
~chuckles softly and points to orli~
~ although amira does agree with her completely
Kha 21:20:29 CST
that it is Loki ... and it is of putting for the ones that wish to roleplay .... and some one is in talking about r\t stuff ~ it does not really set the scene does it ~
~segen~{All} 21:20:56 CST
Well agree whole heartedly with that Master Rollo ~nodding~
Kha 21:21:02 CST
sorry orli ~ smiles ~ why did I get you too mixed up ~
whispers{GS} 21:21:31 CST
Master Rollo You could have not put it more better, at times thats EXCATLY how whispers feels. nutten more than a nakid waitress!
Penny 21:21:36 CST
segen, I'm just remembering the time when people with similar ideology gathered, and r/t talk was just a part of what went on in roleplay a lot of the time...
orli 21:21:43 CST
no worries Mistress *winks at Mistress Kha~
Loki 21:22:02 CST
No it doesnt Kha, r/t has no place here IMO
~segen~{All} 21:22:24 CST
~nodding as she hears You speak~ yes Mitress Penny, segen could see that happening
Laroona 21:22:34 CST
Captain Rollo
I had slaves mouths glued together with gooy candy they other day and all who played had a ball.. and those entering too... as slaves were motioning desires to serve etc....
that to me and the other Free was slaves still remaining pleasing whilst in some service *S*
orli 21:24:23 CST
Master Rollo....orli would agree with You by about 50%.....GS is afterall a Paga Tavern.....but as much as orli loves to performs serves...they do after a time become achingly boring....but that is up tp the slaves to find other things to entertain their roleplay
like the other day....segen drank from the fountain in the Piazza....as any good beast would do..and orli nudged her.....segen pushed back and both ended up soaking in the water...it was great fun and orli would look forward to doing a roleplay like that again...the Free present were not upset that we weren't falling all over ourselves trying to serve.....since they required nothing....yet we were still pleasing and might actually even been entertaining in out playful antics
Kha 21:25:03 CST
then why whispers when I ask girls for conversation ...does everyone go quiet and nothing is said ~many moons ago if a girl wished to get noticed ..she made herself seen .. by either talk .. mischief ..a little i s good ... chores ... all to colour a room ... setting the scene so to speak ~
orli 21:26:29 CST
exactly Mistress Kha *ws~
Kha 21:27:14 CST
when I ask to serve Them girl They run for cover ..or put on waterproof breeches~
amira 21:28:38 CST
~ a girl doesnt believe that Rp needs to be limited to serving food drinks or furring for that matter.
it was even something brought up in slave class a long time ago. about offering different things other than just food serves...
most slaves at least that amira sees want the challenge in RP.
~segen~{All} 21:28:52 CST
Mistress Kha, cause they KNOW You? ~playful laugh~
orli 21:29:27 CST
*smiles and nods...agreeing with amira...remembering that slave class~
Laroona 21:29:55 CST
I think segen has had several bathes in the fountain at various times... some voluntary some not so LOL
orli 21:30:36 CST
*chuckles with Mistress Laroona~
Kha 21:30:47 CST
laughing at segan's words perhaps or My Reputation goes before Me ~
~segen~{All} 21:31:08 CST
~blushing hard as she hears Mistress Laroona~ mmmmm segen's a dirty dirty girl?? ~impish grin~
Actually the fountain is at least something else to roleplay and interact with...when not serving or cleaning it does give segen something to "do" and most off when she heads there it's going to be playful! it's a wonderful roleplay tool that she uses! ~smiling~
roni{GS} 21:31:22 CST
*hearing amira's comment and remembering Master Loki request for service one day*
~segen~{All} 21:31:50 CST
Mistress Kha, before You, behind You, aong side You *snickering softly*
Laroona 21:31:57 CST
exactly segen and why
because it pleases free... *S
Kha 21:32:29 CST
segan ..you just like to be wet .. what ever which way ~ lol~
Rollo_the_Ax 21:32:32 CST
Folks, there is not going to any * magic bullet * here that we can come up with to fix this situation .... it will require effort from EVERYBODY to make things better.... All that we can do is to ALL try that little bit harder to make things better....
Loki 21:32:48 CST
~chuckling~ amaze Me with your wit girl....
amira 21:32:50 CST
even slaves are not completely limited............ in what they offer although at times it is preconceived.
but for a slave to offer a back or foot rub.. a dance....
to wash the Masters leather britches~
impish grin~
even we as slaves tend to forget that we are much more than waitresses
~segen~{All} 21:33:30 CST
Mistress Laroona (a personal comment inserted here)...it makes me happy to play and i find i am more pleasing to free when i'm happy. For me, it's a win win...
Mistess Kha, well a true IS a true...*laughing*
Rollo_the_Ax 21:38:49 CST
It is time that we call it a night ........ We have gone overtime.... If there are more issues that y'all want to dicuss, how about we save it for next week ???
orli 21:39:20 CST
orli has nothing Master Rollo *ws~
21:39:26 CST
well done Rollo..
Laroona 21:39:36 CST
IMO I believe that if we of GS, all worked together
get rid of the perceived cliques that are showing of late... then we are on the right track....
slaves entering to serve in any form be it drinks, food, dancing, or any other form of service..and free interacting with each other.. in say in trading with Zoran, as an example... then maybe we can move forward
yes segen I will still dunk you LOL
Ulrich 21:39:36 CST
Thanks Rollo
orli 21:39:58 CST
orli thanks You for hosting forum Master
Penny 21:40:19 CST
Goodnight, Rollo, and thank you for your time in leading the forum!
Please give galah love from me, I miss her terribly.
Laroona 21:40:21 CST
thank you Captain Rollo
thank you indie *s*
Rollo_the_Ax 21:40:31 CST
So saying, I want to thank everybody for coming and taking part in tonights forum...... We will have it agasin next week...same time, same place....
~segen~{All} 21:40:40 CST
Mistress Laroona, i agree and, shockingly i'm happy to her that! something out of the ordinary is ALWAYS welcomed by me, even if i get dunked!
~segen~{All} 21:41:02 CST
thank You for allowing segen to attend....~smiling to all~
Xertog 21:41:48 CST
Don't forget the festival is next Friday and Saturday.
Kha 21:41:55 CST
thank You Rollo ~ smiles~
shadow{Ulrich} 21:42:05 CST
shadow thanks You Master Rollo..
she wishes all well.. ~smiles.. ~
~hanging tight to Master.. ~
roni{GS} 21:42:11 CST
Thank You Master
Sandman,,Builder_ 21:42:21 CST
Thank you Rollo
Laroona 21:43:04 CST
eeek thanks Xertog I need to prepare some pages on the site....
Loki 21:44:35 CST
thank You Captain Rollo..