Laroona 19:35:01 CST
I just received a message Captain Rollo will not be able to make the Forum today, and send his apologies
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:36:57 CST
returns from her convo and nods as she hears Mistress Laroona, about to announce the same thing....puts it in the minutes...
Zoran 19:39:01 CST
well do we cancel
but we have so many here
would be ashamed to waste the chance to talk
Laroona 19:40:00 CST
Zoran you can run it I am sure LOL
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:40:20 CST
don't think we should cancel…but perhaps wait a few more ehn?
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:41:06 CST
agrees that Master Zoran can run it.....just meant to wait a few to see who else pops in...LOL...seeing more arrive each ehn
Zoran 19:41:52 CST
greetings kaila
will wait a few more minutes then
Zoran 19:42:57 CST
well if any have a question for forum tonight send to me now
when a Captain comes in I gladly turn it over to them lol
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:43:50 CST
so the forum is now called to order Master Zoran?...smiles and winks at Him
Zoran 19:44:47 CST
lol yes I call the forum to order
smiles to topaz
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:47:02 CST
*scribing as she hears Master Zoran, head bent to her task*
slaves - Greeting Protocol and entering rooms
Zoran 19:47:32 CST
ok got one smiles
What is the correct greeting protocol of GS when slaves enter a room?
~es_belle~{T} 19:48:09 CST
Captains if present
down the line
FM of GS
FM
FW of GS
FW
slaves
Zoran 19:48:56 CST
agrees with belle
and as all no frees A Tal
slaves a greeting
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:49:08 CST
One waits for the slave to post her entrance and then greets...
tis the same for the Free....or Any who enter for that matter...
all greetings should wait to be sent until the one entering has posted they have entered, or beg to enter...
Zoran 19:49:59 CST
now is that in Tavern or every room of Gor
~es_belle~{T} 19:50:17 CST
every including forum
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:50:28 CST
ooopss..lol...greetings protocol...
Captains first in chair order, then Advisors, the Free men pledged, then Free men visiting, then Free Women pledged, then Free women visiting, then FG then other slaves
~es_belle~{T} 19:50:37 CST
only place a slave doesn’t beg is the kennels but if there is a free must greet
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:50:55 CST
every room in GS......Master Zoran...LOL
shi'rin{Orion}~t 19:51:01 CST
should be in every room
~es_belle~{T} 19:51:14 CST
well shows what I know
Zoran 19:52:14 CST
I have seen a few not wait to beg to get into Piazza
but I did not know lol
that is good to know
Laroona 19:52:16 CST
all rooms but the kennels
and until forum starts... greeting should be given out of respect
once it starts then Pm's are acceptable *S*
shi'rin{Orion}~t 19:53:29 CST
thought we didn't need to beg to enter the Piazza?
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:54:31 CST
slaves do not need to beg entry into the Piazza, but they must post their entrance and greet
tassa{Paedur} 19:54:36 CST
nodding in agreement with shirin.
that's what tassa thought too..
Zoran 19:54:53 CST
but if they are a gs slave they do not beg to enter the tavern isn't that correct
Laroona 19:55:14 CST
I for one will not greet a slave until the slave greets me
there is another exception of entry is when a slave is at heel and then must wait order of the Free she is at heel to, before greeting
tassa{Paedur} 19:55:18 CST
no Master, ALL slaves beg to enter the tavern..
Laroona 19:56:17 CST
The Piazza is as topaz says....
enter and greet then be greeted LOL
Dak 19:56:35 CST
unless entering from the kennels
Zoran 19:56:46 CST
ok so the kennel and Piazza but in the Piazza they must greet in re
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:57:29 CST
nay Master Zoran, GS slave or personal slave, ALL must beg to enter the tavern or other rooms, except the Piazza and kennels...and Forum of course
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:58:07 CST
a slave should always greet in respect no matter what the room Master Zoran...just that they do not need to beg to enter in those specific rooms
tassa{Paedur} 19:58:08 CST
with the exception, as Mistress Laroona stated, of a girl in heel to a Master or Mistress, all slaves beg entrance to the tavern, no matter what room they are coming from...
Laroona 19:59:01 CST
From Slave Rules:
All slaves on the Gorean shores chain and personally owned slaves or slaves without a collar must beg for permission to enter Gorean Shores upon their knees, with their foreheads to the floor. (See the positions prostrate/tile/and obeisance) and the very first words a slave should utter are a request to enter the tavern. However, if a slave asks three times to enter, at least one ehn apart, and fails to receive a response, she may enter the tavern. This rule is similar to the three post exit rule. Personally owned girls that are heeling their Master (or Mistress) into the Gorean Shores rooms do not need to beg entrance, but their Owner should mention that Their slave is heeling Them in, on a leash, on Their shoulder, etc. and the girl should post her entrance.
All slaves must beg exit from all rooms (except the Forum room and slave kennels) unless heeling their Master out. Slaves who drop off line and return within 10 minutes do not have to ask for permission to re-enter....but should type in "urted" or a gorean equivalent so people know why. Slaves requesting to leave or go afk, who are not answered after 3 posts (posted at least a minute apart) may leave as if they were given permission to do so.
Since forum protocols apply to the Forum room, it is not necessary for slaves to beg entrance or exit from this room.
Because the Piazza is open to the street, slaves entering the Piazza do not need to beg entry, but should post an entrance and must ask permission to leave.
aatira{Dak} 19:59:01 CST
then all slaves beg to enter the training yard? *thinking this is good to know since she slipped in to watch the sparring without begging entrance.... *
Zoran 19:59:09 CST
ok I can see there are a few question of the rules on this lol
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:59:11 CST
even when entering from the kennels Master dak, once a slave eters the tavern she must beg to enter
for example, when we leave Forum tonight and if any slaves go into the tavern they MUST beg to enter...even though they were here in Forum
Zoran 20:00:09 CST
thank you Lar that clears thing up smiles
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:00:10 CST
thank You for posting that Mistress Laroona, it is very clear....smiles
Dak 20:00:46 CST
theoretically, the kennels are part of the Tavern , and entered thru a hole in the floor in the servery
tassa{Paedur} 20:01:38 CST
theoretically, yes, the kennels are part of the Tavern, but the rules still state that a slave must beg entrance into the room...
Laroona 20:01:57 CST
Greeting again from the slave Rules *S*
2) Greetings
Entering A Room
Slaves are expected to greet all Free Persons after entering Gorean Shores, unless in the service of Someone, and as new Patrons enter. Do NOT greet a Free until they have posted an entrance or a greeting first. And remember, slaves should always thank the person who allowed you to enter when you greet them..
Greeting Order
You are expected to greet the Council of Captains first, if any are present. Next, you will greet any of the Advisors of Gorean Shores, finally you will greet any Pledged Male Patrons of Shores then other Masters. If any Pledged Free Women of Shores are present, they are to be greeted before you may greet any kajirae. Do not greet fellow slaves until they have been given permission to enter and are in the room.
For personally owned kajira if your Master/Mistress is in the room and They are the One that granted entry, greet Them first and ask permission to greet the others. After getting permission to greet, use the above order of greeting also. If Your Owner is in Gorean Shores but another Master/Mistress has given you permission to enter, go to your Masters/Mistresses feet, greet Them then beg your Owner to greet the others. Once permission is granted, you may then greet in the order above. If your Master/Mistress is not in the room, please follow the above order
Zoran 20:02:31 CST
I have heard that from older Masters of the Port kar
about the kennels as Dak has said
Laroona 20:03:17 CST
LOL am only posting what the rules state *S*
tassa{Paedur} 20:03:45 CST
the rules used to state that a gorean shores owned slave did not need to beg entrance into the tavern...but the rule has changed, so perhaps that is why the mix up..
Dak 20:04:25 CST
in the past , when coming up from the kennels, they just moved to serving furs, that is GS slaves only, posting doing so
Zoran 20:05:04 CST
well then this was a good thing we have talk as it seems there are a few different ideas on this but as Lar posted the rules stated as they are
Laroona 20:05:11 CST
tassa I believe you are right little one there was a change made some time back and a revision of them at times is very helpful for all Free and slaves *S*
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:05:22 CST
even when the slaves would pop up through the trap door, they would still beg to enter the tavern
Dak 20:05:52 CST
I believe there is an omission on the kennel entry
tassa{Paedur} 20:07:17 CST
it doesn't matter what room the slaves enter FROM, if they go to the tavern, they must beg entrance, unless heeling a Free
Dak 20:07:19 CST
they used to beg entrance coming into the tavern, unless coming up from the kennels
tassa{Paedur} 20:07:50 CST
aye Master Dak, they used to, but that rule has changed...some time back now..
Laroona 20:07:56 CST
aye Dak as most kennel and go offline their entry is to the Tavern, and I hardly ever see a slave go to the kennels log out then log back in the kennels LOL
so one maybe that could be visited by the Captains *S*
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:08:13 CST
not really Master Dak, no omission, as it states clearly all slaves must beg entry period...no matter where they are coming from...
only entering the Piazza and slave kennels and Forum do they not have to beg, but are still expected to greet...*smiles softly*
Dak 20:08:47 CST
oh well, I don't have any, that will be entering from there anyway
Zoran 20:09:48 CST
ok so the rules are for all rooms the must beg entrance
except for Piazza, forum, and kennels
but in all rooms they must greet
Dak 20:10:14 CST
hasn't been that long ago, they dropped begging entrance, to the Tavern, *smiles*
tassa{Paedur} 20:10:16 CST
nodding at Master Zoran
Zoran 20:11:13 CST
so I think that question has been covered
are there any other questions
Laroona 20:11:58 CST
aye Zoran *S*
It irks me when I see Free greet slaves before the slave posts their entry and greeting
Laroona 20:12:55 CST
we could cover Free greeting LOL
Zoran 20:12:57 CST
lol I done it myself
when I first came to Gor
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:13:18 CST
topaz would just like to say...LMAO..ONE MORE TIME!!
she has said this till she is blue in the face, and posted it on the boards a few times!
please read all the rules!!....there have been changes...and even the things that have not changed, it would be surprising how clear and how much is covered !!!
tassa{Paedur} 20:13:27 CST
giggling at Mistress
but, that is something the slaves are taught Mistress...not to greet till entry is posted...doesn't mean all Free will abide by that rule...
but, tassa agrees with You, to her, the P/person hasn't actually entered until they've said they've entered
Zoran 20:13:38 CST
LOL as I look to Lar
Zoran 20:14:34 CST
lol as I look to topaz
such a voice out such a little body lol
Laroona 20:15:00 CST
hey I enjoy playing "devils advocate" LOL
Zoran 20:15:51 CST
I agree with the devil part Lar LOL
any other questions
looks around the room
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:16:07 CST
giggles and winks at Master Zoran...
Laroona 20:16:34 CST
I greet Captains in order of rank; then FM, then FW then slaves
as a FW is just above slaves and in my opinion should demonstrate respect to her peers *S*
Slaves attending slave classes
Zoran 20:17:16 CST
next question:
Is a slave a bad slave if she does not go to slave class?
Laroona 20:17:17 CST
Zoran you peek at my horns under my veils again *Laughing*
aatira{Dak} 20:18:07 CST
*softly chuckling at the question*
Zoran 20:18:51 CST
lol as I looked to Lar no comment winks
tassa{Paedur} 20:19:36 CST
shrugs at Masters next question
who is tassa to judge what is a good reason for going or not going?? perhaps that slave doesn’t' feel she gets anything from the class, or feels that she can be more productive in the tavern, or has r/t issues that interfere, or her Master hasn’t' given her permission
there are tons of reasons one can't or won't go to slave class….that doesn't make that slave a bad slave...in tassas opinion anyway...
caitlin_GS 20:19:39 CST
not sure she is a bad slave but she is missing out
Laroona 20:21:21 CST
I would not say a bad slave for not attending
that is a judgement call that could be made and for wrong reasons
lara{Zor} 20:21:21 CST
raises her had...this one feels bad when she doesn’t go to class...
tassa{Paedur} 20:21:46 CST
only in your opinion though caitlin….perhaps that slave has gone, and doesn’t feel she is missing out on anything
personally, tassa loves going to slave class...but that's a choice tassa makes....
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:22:01 CST
of course that does not make a slave a bad slave if she/he does not go to slave class....but personally, topaz thinks they miss an awful lot of camaraderie...grins
and they can always read the slave notes in the kajira email if they miss a class....
but personally, topaz would like to say, would be nice if all slaves could attend, and see what they are missing out on....chuckles
caitlin_GS 20:22:04 CST
well caitlin goes because she likes all the hugggs ~grinning
sorcha{Orion} 20:22:38 CST
~listening to the question~
sorcha knows she does not attend slave class because they start at her 2am. she is usually asleep.
Zoran 20:22:50 CST
well if a slave does not thrive to learn and to better serve there Master
is that more the question
as a slaves learn in different ways
tassa{Paedur} 20:23:24 CST
laughing
if it were at tassa's 2 am, she wouldn't be going either sorcha....tassa HAS to have her beauty sleep..*nodsnodsnods*
caitlin_GS 20:23:38 CST
tassa yes that is caitlins opinion, and wasn’t talking about the material was talking about everyone getting together and enjoying being together
tassa{Paedur} 20:24:27 CST
there are other ways to learn than going to slave class...sometimes, as in sorcha's case, it's just not possible to attend...doesn't mean she isn't yearning to learn...or that she doesn't want to better serve her Master..
tassa{Paedur} 20:24:47 CST
oh yeah caitlin...tassa likes that..*grins*...
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:25:51 CST
agrees with caitlin, as when we get together in slave class, it is not a strict uptight format...
it is relaxed, and fun, the slaves learn, but also more importantly, have a chance to relax and get to know each other and themselves!!....to laugh, to cry even....smiles softly
topaz does not believe in classes that are so structured, it is like being back in high school, she tries to give classes where the slaves think, where they have input, where they can ask anything, and also is still learning something!
Laroona 20:25:54 CST
sorcha I would not attend either at 2am LOL
sorcha{Orion} 20:27:19 CST
sometimes sorcha is awake at that time, like now it is 2.30am, but by the end of a working week, at 2am on her Thursday mornings, she is beat. and not a good beat ~LOL~
Zoran 20:27:28 CST
so what i am hearing
is that as long as one is improving
it does not mater how they learn
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:28:34 CST
poor sorcha...that is late..
buttttttttttt....a question...does sorcha read the class notes posted in our email sis?
Laroona 20:29:20 CST
I think that slaves classes are a good place for all to get to know each other, and pass on hints how slaves can better serve Free in many ways, and learn about so many animals, insects and gorean life etc *S*
Zoran 20:29:29 CST
I agree with topaz it seem a good things as the slaves here are all like sister
they argue like sitsters
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:29:44 CST
exactly Master Zoran, one learns all she can through reading, her sisters, her Master, she absorbs so much from many sources...
but
slave class provides a place for the slaves to gather at once and enjoy the learning experience
sorcha{Orion} 20:29:52 CST
oh yes, sorcha always reads the notes. her first owner made sure that she established that
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:32:07 CST
smiles at sorcha...
so tell me...does sorcha enjoy them??
does she get the feel of the girls enjoying themselves and yet learning, seeking, each class?
sorcha{Orion} 20:34:31 CST
sorcha does enjoy reading the notes. she learns lots even just from that. and if there is something she is not sure of, she seeks someone out and annoys everyone with her constant questions til she understands ~lol~
Zoran 20:35:35 CST
if all agree I think we answer that question
looks to the room
Laroona 20:38:23 CST
I also think serving Free one learns and I for one am always happy to help any slave *S*
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:38:28 CST
hugs sorcha and smiles!!
that is good to hear beautiful!!
ara{Zor} 20:40:26 CST
this one loves to serve All...sorry Master, granted she loves You the most….but servin Any makes her happy and keeps her goin...
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:40:32 CST
agrees, we can teach the girls to serve, spend a lot of time on it, but once she had learnt the basics, there is nothing like actually serving to get the jitters out and start to enjoy them, feel the burn to serve, the desire to please!
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:40:59 CST
well said lara brat...winks at her sis!
Jaegers_kath 20:41:54 CST
*laughing* oh that question must be for kath! Motivated.....well for 7 years a girl's loyalty has kept her motivated. Many years kath described herself as the chorewoman of Gor, but as of late, kath has been unable to carry that load. A girl thinks the love and loyalty make it bearable and when Master is home? The joy is overwhelming ~smiles~
lara{Zor} 20:42:26 CST
gigglin….and this one wouldn’t be a brat if she didn’t strive to please All around her….gigglin...
tassa{Paedur} 20:42:43 CST
grimaces
that is a hard one Master Zoran....tassa, of course, wants to be found pleasing by All, but, the reason is, is because her Master wants her to be pleasing to All, and that is what motivates her..
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:42:59 CST
but, now this is an interesting question....does a girl serve a Master differently from another Master?....not speaking of her own Master of course....
and to carry that further, does a Master see a difference in a girl's serves ?
tassa{Paedur} 20:45:23 CST
mm, good question paz…..tassa tries to treat all the Free the same, but she knows that doesn't always happen...good or bad
sorcha{Orion} 20:46:36 CST
sorcha was always told the person she should strive to please the most is her Owner. that if she worked at pleasing Him, pleasing all other Free would fall into place.
Zoran 20:46:41 CST
I feel all slave have there fav they like to serve smiles
that is human but is right
hard for me to say
lol my lara loves to serve all lol
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:46:44 CST
nods hearing tassa's honesty
so does topaz!....and she thinks she does serve all the same, but only the Masters could answer that for topaz
Jaegers_kath 20:48:34 CST
If kath does not serve well and a girl's Master gets word of it, kath is in deep ah well you know. kath tries to serve all to please them with her best effort
tassa{Paedur} 20:48:53 CST
for instance, tassa has known Master Marius since before either of Uus came to Gor, she knows she can throw a lil sass into her serves with Him, tease Him a bit, and be silly sometimes...other Masters, she wouldn't dare to do that..
lara{Zor} 20:48:54 CST
gigglin….this one does love to serve All...but some Masters like her funny….and few have commanded a serious serve of her...so she does do differently...but she hopes None think she is not servin to her fullest...whether her Master or not...
aatira{Dak} 20:51:11 CST
this one does not serve All the same....
she does not serve Any One in particular the same each time... she has found that sometimes a Master will need something different... sometimes it seems to her He will need a smile so she may have a serve to place a smile on His lips....
sometimes He needs something undemanding.... so9metimes He seems to need some heat..... but each time she strives to be pleasing...
Zoran 20:51:34 CST
looks to the Captain
shall I give the forum over to you
Paedur-Slavemaster 20:52:29 CST
You are doing just fine Zoran do not let Me interrupt You My Friend. *S*
shi'rin{Orion}~t 20:52:50 CST
but shirin thinks you are off the real question a bit...with a girl's Master absent very often, He's not around to be pleased by her service to Others...what's to keep her belly fiery when her One desire is not here?
tassa{Paedur} 20:53:00 CST
nodding at aatira...
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:53:00 CST
smiles as she looks to the waterclock, thinking forum is near over.....
Zoran 20:53:01 CST
nods to Peadur
thank you friend
Zoran 20:54:09 CST
are there any other thoughts on how a slave keeps there sprit when left alone
Paedur-Slavemaster 20:54:19 CST
Winks to shirin, why I am girl. *wink* LOL
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:54:49 CST
well shirin, tis the slave within that must keep her going...
as topaz said, serving the Masters the same, NOT including her own Master....
topaz has been without a Master present for most of her time on Gor, and she struggles at times true, gets lonely yes, but her slave belly and heart are what keeps her going and the need and desires to please....*smiles gently at shirin*
Jaegers_kath 20:55:27 CST
this girl has been know to go to other Masters and beg use when a girl's Master has been long away
Zoran 20:56:25 CST
lol as I here kath
shi'rin{Orion}~t 20:57:32 CST
~*~smiles blushing to Master Paedur hearing Him~*~...greetings Master
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:58:19 CST
a slave is never truly alone Master Zoran, she loves her Master and desires most of all to have Him with her...but if He is not, then she is still slave, and still has Others that require her services, as well as her sisters...*smiles*
shi'rin{Orion}~t 20:59:02 CST
much easier said than done...shirin knows a she's been thru it more times than she'd like to admit and it never gets easier...just makes her start thinking bad thoughts and taking "bad" lessons from some bratty sisters ~chuckles~
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:59:16 CST
giggles as she hears kath...
topaz cannot even do that!
she has been restricted her whole time as slave!
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 21:00:00 CST
hugs shirin tight, kissing her cheek.....
Gor can be harsh sweet sis....sighs
Zoran 21:00:30 CST
lol would that be lara shirin lol
shi'rin{Orion}~t 21:01:19 CST
~nods smiling to mistress~ very harsh, think this is what it means when people speak about gor being harsh...it's the harshest!
Zoran 21:01:20 CST
topaz you always serve with fire
and drive us crazy lol
Jaegers_kath 21:01:24 CST
~looks at topaz and Thassa eyes grow huge~
shi'rin{Orion}~t 21:02:02 CST
hehehe, no Master Zoran, actually a brattier slave than sweet lara ~winks to her~
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 21:04:14 CST
smiles and blushes..
well thank You Master Zoran, that is what topaz meant, she is slave, she desires to please....but did not know her fire was strong enough to drive the master's crazy/......LOL
Zoran 21:04:56 CST
if there are no other comments I think I will call forum to and end
shi'rin{Orion}~t 21:05:32 CST
thank You for leading forum tonight, Master Zoran ~smiles~
Laroona 21:06:07 CST
thank you Zoran for moderating another informative forum *S*
aatira{Dak} 21:06:23 CST
one thanks You, Master Zoran.... *soft smile*
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 21:06:29 CST
thank You for hosting forum tonight Master Zoran, well done indeed...*grins at Him*
Jaegers_kath 21:06:30 CST
kath would like to thank Master Zoran for leading the forum and apologizes for being late
Paedur-Slavemaster 21:06:54 CST
Thank You Zoran.
You drinks are on Me this night, or next time You are about. *S*
Zoran 21:07:30 CST
nods to all and smiles
I do all to make my home a better place
Zoran 21:08:13 CST
thank you Captain
nods then hits his hand to his chest
tassa{Paedur} 21:08:45 CST
tassa thanks You Master Zoran...*smiling softly at Him*
Laroona 21:10:21 CST
thank you topaz for scribing *S*
Zoran 21:12:25 CST
yes thank you topaz