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Sandman

Thorrn

Dak

Bretval

Kazar 

Jondalar

Hunter

Lita

 

shimmer 

maddie~anne

ruby 

chocolate

snowrose

 

Bretval, Merchant 19:25:09 pm CDT

Forum - Bretval's Rules:

1) Forum will begin at 7:45 GS time. At that time if God himself walks in I expect He will be greeted only in Whispers.

2) The agenda I have laid out will probably take the next four or five Forums to be explored in detail so do not get anxious to move on.

3) This is Forum NOT role play in Tavern and anything said is valid and allowed as long as it is said with respect. No chastising of the slave girls as long as their comment is relative to the discussion. If it is not the Ignore command is right by and I will use it.

4) No "I remember when" or "When I was in FarFarAway site..." I don't care... We are trying to make this site work better for Us not them... If You think Your thoughts would help Us then than say so in Your own words...

5) I will ignore any reference to how it was in the books We are trying to improve how Gorean Shores works ... not a book written for horny teenage boys. The books are the start of the journey not the destination.

6) The term Master includes the Mistresses, in short All the Free 

 

Dak 19:47:15 pm CDT

Last I heard GS had forum rules, *smiles* 

 

Bretval, Merchant 19:50:30 pm CDT

snow go ahead 

 

Bretval, Merchant 19:51:34 pm CDT

Mine are in addition, Dak 

 

Dak 19:52:59 pm CDT

yours do not apply, last I heard this was the GS and Captains site !! 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 19:53:08 pm CDT

snowrose just wants to remind the slaves that there is a chain of command in GS. slaves bring their problems or grievances to the fg. If she cannot handle it, or the slave wants the Slave Master or Council to act on it, she will pass it on.

This includes any problems you have with snowrose. she is well aware that she is not perfect, and is not thin-skinned.

Under no circumstance, do you complain about it to the Free. They do not concern Themselves with petty issues .

snowrose doesn't bite. you all know that.

That is all she has to say Master 

 

Bretval, Merchant 19:55:18 pm CDT

The Council of Captains

 

The Council is not administering the requests of the Free. Understand this is NOT the fault of the Council of Captains it is that RT sometimes interferes and We all understand that. We simply need more advisors and Captains who are willing to be active. We currently have the problem of nothing getting done. Part of the Problem is two-fold as I see it. One is actually the lack of Captains participating in the site... that does not mean showing up for a drink and a screw but should mean taking active part and the planning of events such as festivities and game nights.

 

The second part, and in My mind the most important, is the rule that Council decisions must be unanimous. That is simply silly if not stupid. Under the current rules, one Captain could, in effect, hold the whole Council at hostage. One Captain votes No and nothing is done and nothing being done is the main problem.

 

The result is that good people are ignored and nothing gets done... to Me and many others this is unacceptable. The result is that they leave and We suffer the results. ( At this point I don't know why Tanthios denounced his pledge but I do know that he was responsible for many of the changes in the site. A hard working Gorean with the best interest of Our Home at heart. )

 

I suggest that the number of Captains be increased and that it only require a 2/3 vote of the Council to induct a new Captain. In the meantime the number of Advisors should be increased by at least 2 members and that temporarily the Advisors be given a vote on Council until the number of ACTIVE Captains be increased to at least three to five.

 

It is important to remember that We have Members from all over the world and this fact should be reflected in the in the make-up of the Council and the Advisors.

 

I believe this change cannot be left to the Council. It must be voted on by all currently active members both Masters and slaves. An individual should have at least three votes from the Members to be considered for filling empty slots as either Captain or Advisor. I would further suggest that Jarl Thorrn be made a Captain immediately. 

 

Bretval, Merchant 19:56:04 pm CDT

Much of what I have to say has been said both to Myself and amongst others but I am solely responsible for the following topics discussed and any recriminations and/or punishment , if any, should fall on My shoulders. Any Master or slave who wishes to add to the list can do so by E-mail and it will be addressed at a future time.

 

Our Home is being torn apart and nibbled away by urts. I think it is now time to fix it and make it stronger. I do not know if the suggestions I am presenting will save Our Home... but I doubt it will hurt. 

 

Bretval, Merchant 19:56:47 pm CDT

Oops Second should have been first 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 19:59:07 pm CDT

Bretval I have made few requests stating that Jarl Thorrn should be made a captain also Portus ``Add two more advisors to the council and pledge Randolph ` answer is two fold one isnt here during forum that they're in Europe~` and is taken under the advisement of the council ` never a answer 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:00:20 pm CDT

Bretval i agree thier ~~ ~r/t sometimes make sit hard for some too make the commitment ~ like Dak I have the time ~ not the knowledge of some

 

shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:02:05 pm CDT

well shimmer thinks it would be a good change things are not getting done now and it gets over whelming... whey you desire a Master he desires you but you can't get a Captain to decide if the slave can be bought from them... shimmer almost left because she got overwhelmed instead she started to play a computer game instead of coming into the home.. shimmer would love to see some changes she really would but that is shimmer. 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:02:52 pm CDT

smiles from ear to ear..hearing her Masters name 

 

Hunter{aura} 20:03:43 pm CDT

Its a delicate balance ..reading back

 

I believe chat is in decline first and foremost...its not just Gorean...its everywhere...and the reasons are manifold...so it makes sense to want those that do come around to feel useful and to spread responsibilty..more captains makes sense...it might look like a too many chiefs thing but given the circumstances I dont think so 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:04:35 pm CDT

slaves do have to serve the tavern as red silks before being sold. they are not trained to be sold off right away..It's not a slaver's house 

 

Dak 20:05:13 pm CDT

yes, it would be nice, but going over the present Captains can result in banishment, and has happened ! 

 

Hunter{aura} 20:06:48 pm CDT

The irony is that on Gor by the books democracy is hardly a philosophical tenet...Survival of the fittest most certainly is 

 

Dak 20:07:21 pm CDT

I vehemently disagree in that rule snowrose, if they prevent a slave from being sold, at yellows, they just leave! why do you think so many are not showing up !

 

Lita, Physician 20:08:18 pm CDT

Bretval, I am concerned by Your statement about ignoring the books. Yes, the books were written with horny teen-aged boys in mind, but in the course of 30 or so books, the author has created an incredible world which we are trying to create , or re-create, in role-play. And the world He created should be respected. After all, we don't go changing Shakespeare's Plays, or Stephen King's stories. We present them with adherence to them as written. Over my close to 20 years on Gor I( have seen lots of rooms fail because they DON'T adhere to the rule as established in the books. The many on-line-isms that creep in destroy them. Other than that, I agree that something needs to be done to save this site. And if I remember correctly, when It was started, One of the aims was to do Gor by the books. I knew many of the folks who began Gorean Shores. 

 

Dak 20:08:34 pm CDT

right, Gor is not a democracy, neither is GS ! 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:09:35 pm CDT

but it's a tavern Master...there has to be tavern slaves. it's not forever. 

 

Dak 20:10:12 pm CDT

some do not want to wait for reds many never make them ! 

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:10:44 pm CDT

I agree Dak about selling yellow silks and that is scheduled for another day 

 

Dak 20:12:29 pm CDT

GS in the past has always sold yellows, I know becuz I've bought 2 of them ! 

 

Lita, Physician 20:12:30 pm CDT

Dak, Gor was not built around slaves wants. They had no rights, no wants but to serve the Free. Now I realize when dealing with "real " people there has to be some give, but too many slaves think it's all about them, and it isn't. It's about what the Free want.

 

maddie~anne{GS} 20:13:27 pm CDT

~listens then gives her head a little shake as she tries to follow two topics at once~

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:13:34 pm CDT

True Lita... but they don't try to make a website of this type based on the books.... that is all I am saying 

 

Hunter{aura} 20:14:21 pm CDT

lack of patience is very common ...from both Free and slaves...and the demands on new slaves are sometimes overwhelming I fear...it just gets too hard too quick..

the problem will always be there that slaves in chat arent really slaves...they are human beings with free choice 

 

Lita, Physician 20:14:53 pm CDT

Bretval why can't they make a website of this type based on the books? I know we can't adhere to the books 100%, but I think we need to try aas hard as we can. 

 

Dak 20:15:19 pm CDT

well, that's true, Lady, but the difference is the online slaves have a choice, and that is to disappear in the books they ha no choice, and besides in the books a slave was considered red silk at first use, irregardless of training ! 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:15:29 pm CDT

Well that is their own doing Master...they can go through the lessons quickly..maybe those girl aren't really slaves, just want what they want, when they want it 

 

Lita, Physician 20:16:42 pm CDT

Agreed. snow. I have seen a whole lot of that over the years 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:17:23 pm CDT

Dak I havent seen a yellow silk autioned off since i have been coming here in a few years now 

 

shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:18:44 pm CDT

we want to be slaves and we love serving all free but it is the nature of all that when you find the one that you choose to serve your heart goes to them and it hurts when they choose to want you also but cant.. now in the books they would just take the slave.. or do a congulera for her.. but we do not have those ether... now shimmer loves all of the free here and gladly serves them all yes she had one that owned her heart at one time but with her absents she does not know if those feelings are still there and she is waiting to have a captain test her for red silks.. but again shimmer herself is to blame also since she has not been around as much. 

 

Lita, Physician 20:18:51 pm CDT

Agreed there, Dak. And a slave sometimes had first use before being trained, but even in the books the slavers gave new slaves a certain amount of training before selling them. But silk colors didn't relate to the amount of training.

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:19:14 pm CDT

Because in the books have no slave has any say in there treatment.... take some say away and they leave... they are real people and when unhappy they leave... which is why I am doing this, Lita 

 

Lita, Physician 20:19:39 pm CDT

shimmer, do you mean a canjelne? 

 

shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:20:16 pm CDT

yes Mistress shimmer did not know how to spell it and did not have her book with her to find the spelling 

 

Dak 20:21:54 pm CDT

I bought, offered to buy one, but wasn't pledged at the time, in 2010,and they ended up unkollaring for Me to kolar and I bought My first one, a yellow silk in 2001, from the GS council 

 

Lita, Physician 20:21:59 pm CDT

Bretval, I'm just concerned that we need to stick as close to the books as possible, and a bit more concerned when You made that statement about ignoring what the books say. 

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:24:26 pm CDT

Are there any comment on My thought on the make-up of the Council... this is open to Free and slave... if the site dies Our inaction will be what kills it 

 

Hunter{aura} 20:26:17 pm CDT

I think both points have merit...and howl Me down by all means....but I think most are not here to act out the books as if performing shakespeare...certainly not all the time even for the most ardent amongst us......they are here to enjoy a very basic way of exchange between Man and woman....something yearned for that we tend to see as more how life was in long forgotten history

 

Thats not saying throw the books away...not at all...but it does say dont have that absolute demand to be something impossible when every single person interprests differently 

 

shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:26:40 pm CDT

shimmer thinks we absolutely need more Captains here she also thinks that is why sometimes the Captains do not come in is they them self get overwhelmed. 

 

Dak 20:26:41 pm CDT

well, its either go along to get along, or go make your own site, *smiles* you want to remember, GS does NO own this site! 

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:27:21 pm CDT

I was referring to the way the site works ... the books are interesting as a base to form a site but cannot be the final say in running a webvsite 

 

Lita, Physician 20:27:53 pm CDT

On the make-up of the Council, I agree, Bretval 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:29:51 pm CDT

Hunter agreed there needs too be a balance between the books and what goes on here `` hard too act out somethings in the books ~~always is interaction between slaves and the free 

 

Dak 20:30:10 pm CDT

GS has never been run by committee , and never will be ! 

 

maddie~anne{GS} 20:31:28 pm CDT

~takes a deep breath, then unleashes respectful words~

 

seems to this mere one that there is truth and reality in Each's statements this night...true, Master Hunter, a girl has an option to be slave or not, and true, mistress snowrose, that work in earning silks does tend to "weed" some out...Mistress Lita, true that this site should stay close to the Gorean books, as that is the lure that brought Us All together, and true, Master Bretval, we should also have some flexibilty to the strict adherance because we are a chat room and the practicality of strict enforcement is prohibitive...this one, just sees a common goal in All's words, it's just working out the details without offense and meaningful compromise...with that being said, it is hard to the Captains, to banish all if, even just Those, in this room present a united front...although not strict adherence to the books...it does still reflect the strenght in numbers of what this one, thought, a true Gorean Master, Jarl, Mistress (and in the chat world, lovely slaves) is portrayed in the books, overall

 

~whispering...so sorry for the awful spelling~

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:33:25 pm CDT

Bretval `` we need to change the make up of the Council need ones who will spend the time in here~~~ why Portus being in England would have the time in the afternoons along with Randolph`` where is it written that Captains only come in at night ~`during the day noone here most of the time 

 

maddie~anne{GS} 20:34:23 pm CDT

~smacks her forehead~

WITH...this one meant..."with meaningful compromise"

 

Hunter{aura} 20:35:01 pm CDT

Amen ...gives maddie anne a large hug...perfectly summed up 

 

Dak 20:35:19 pm CDT

right now our Captains both have demanding rt, yes we do need some that can be here at different hours 

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:35:39 pm CDT

The problem is Dak that does not being run by anyone if it was we would not be facing the problems we have and thing if things were e getting done. they are not 

 

Dak 20:37:01 pm CDT

OS gets here when He can, not sure what is happening with Thadron 

 

Hunter{aura} 20:37:14 pm CDT

personnel is a very different thing to structure...and I think thats what Bretval began with...not a challenge to how its done..rather a way to help it work better 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 20:37:37 pm CDT

reads Dak´s statement about the committee

True, GS as Port Kar is concerned has always been ruled by the Council of Captains.

Sometimes the Captains are a bit tired . . . 

 

Dak 20:38:17 pm CDT

well, the Captains kind of depend on the patrons to keep it going , but we do need people around to make decisions ! 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:38:28 pm CDT

Dak Exactly agreed there ~~ for months now room has been dead nice too see many coming back~` now we need too take it to the next level again 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 20:43:12 pm CDT

so true Dak, a place needs to have people making decisions or it is slowly getting out of form and habits. 

 

shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:43:27 pm CDT

shimmer thinks that GS is a wonderful place it really is it calls to her.. but she does see things that could make it better.. where more captains would make life easier on everyone.. the captains and also the other Free which then will make it a more desirable place for everyone..there needs to be a way to make our home prosper and shimmer think if we know that all are wanted it is a help a big help. 

 

Hunter{aura} 20:43:49 pm CDT

I will tell you one thing thats more important than books..or captains...or taverns..or slaves...or any of it...if we can't laugh at ourselves then all is lost

good humour will keep this place alive....nought else will 

 

Dak 20:45:21 pm CDT

I have plenty of sense of humor, *smiles* 

 

shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:45:36 pm CDT

giggles hearing Master Hunter laughter is the best medicine of all! 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:45:38 pm CDT

~winks to Master Hunter~ so so true Master 

 

Hunter{aura} 20:46:09 pm CDT

Anything can be built and maintained from genuine camaraderie....anything less and this site will follow all the others into emptiness 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 20:46:47 pm CDT

Hunter, to deal with slaves needs a lot of humour - they are just women after all.

*chuckles* 

 

shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:47:31 pm CDT

shows a bit more thigh but sexy women Jarl 

 

Hunter{aura} 20:47:32 pm CDT

Laughs....Aye Thorrn 

 

maddie~anne{GS} 20:48:30 pm CDT

~smiles at Master Hunter and nods her head~ it is to be a place of joy, not headaches and heartaches, that is why We are all here, is it not? now, how can We make it better...it will take giving to get on All's parts, this one hopes will happen...

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:48:41 pm CDT

~as she writes, her elbow accidentally pokes Master's belly as she sits between His legs~ oops 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:49:34 pm CDT

Jarl Thorn grins yep needs more lol ``

needs lots of patience and sense of humor dealing with slaves 

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:49:43 pm CDT

I sense that we are all agreed that something must be done... my intent was always that We vote on the changes I suggest by placing it the corks... I will break down the Items up eg Council stay as is a as is or changes according to My ideas or Other... So It is up to all of you plus any members past or current can vote 

 

shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:52:26 pm CDT

shimmy thinks it should be put in the corks that there has been a proposal that we have more captains and advisers to the council that the current Captains are wonderful but because of real time obligations that the members feel that more Captains would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:54:24 pm CDT

I agree, Hunter is very important.. but there is also a time for serious consideration.... I would rather be having a drink and watch dancing girls...*LOL* 

 

shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:54:41 pm CDT

it was sad to see Master Tanthios leave GS he was a Master shimmy really liked 

 

Hunter{aura} 20:55:01 pm CDT

nearly always in societies...when the natives begin to promote change in number it follows very quickly that there is change...(or massacre)....it doesnt alwasy make things better however....so change needs to very carefully thought out 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:55:30 pm CDT

Perhaps the Captains should decide that...the corks are public, anyone, including people who have no love for the site, would see it.

we could vote here, proxy vote for anyone who can't attend...only Members who plan to be active in the home? Why should people who never come here, contribute nothing, get to vote?

 

Hunter{aura} 20:56:46 pm CDT

Aye Bretval...I might seem irreverant often but yes the issues are serious...sometimes just by voicing things the change of attitude thats also required has begun 

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:57:14 pm CDT

That is in My proposal shimmer

 

I suggest that the number of Captains be increased and that it only require a 2/3 vote of the Council to induct a new Captain. In the meantime the number of Advisors should be increased by at least 2 members and that temporarily the Advisors be given a vote on Council until the number of ACTIVE Captains be increased to at least three to five. 

 

Hunter{aura} 20:57:23 pm CDT

agreed snowrose 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 20:58:05 pm CDT

agrees with you mistress snowrose..dissension is not an attribute to advertise 

 

Dak 21:01:16 pm CDT

I think a vote is highly unnecesary 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:01:16 pm CDT

At the time the Captains are really slow in making decisions, as an Adivsor one gets old and grey and old enough for retirement before being promoted to Captain *l* 

 

Bretval, Merchant 21:01:38 pm CDT

A thought snowrose but being public it might encourage some of others to visit 

 

Dak 21:01:57 pm CDT

presently there is only 2 on the council 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:02:07 pm CDT

Dak The real problem is, this is all known to the Captains and they still don´t decide anything at all. 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:02:50 pm CDT

There have been proposals, emails and such and still nothing happened *shrugs* 

 

Dak 21:03:02 pm CDT

I know, but not sure OS a has been able to get a hold of Thadron 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:03:49 pm CDT

perhaps the suggestions made public, but not the vote., or just the totals...guess she believes in the privacy of ballots 

 

Dak 21:04:41 pm CDT

I would avoid it being put on the boards ! 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 21:05:13 pm CDT

all what we have said the Captains know still no resolve~~ why where here now at this juncture ~~ 

 

Dak 21:05:36 pm CDT

I would be for this meeting be sent to the Captains 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:05:51 pm CDT

walking quietly into forum so as not to disturb the flow 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:07:26 pm CDT

Better not to put this topic on the corks.

I think it is time for the Advisor to give an Advise in this and write an email.

 

Hunter{aura} 21:07:40 pm CDT

Indeed...I have offered My pledge a few times in conversation..but never get an actual yay or nay from council...I havent done so formally because clarification on whether My owning a D/s home contravenes the rules has never been decided once and for all..

 

I wait 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:08:37 pm CDT

chuckles as the Captains ears seemd to have been rung and He came in to listen to the folk of His city

Tal bro, really good to see You tonight. 

 

Bretval, Merchant 21:09:26 pm CDT

As long as all involved including those not here tonight know they can vote then I have no problem keeping it private 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:16:13 pm CDT

smiling I stand

 

Dak,, if you don't mind I would like top take a short break from Forum,, for some Important business that's possible tonight 

 

Bretval, Merchant 21:16:58 pm CDT

Well I have had My say on this... so if there is nothing else My part of the evening is done 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 21:17:13 pm CDT

Sandman aye `` looks at Jarl Thorn 

 

Dak 21:17:18 pm CDT

well, you need to be caught up on this tonight, I haven't been running this tonight 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:18:35 pm CDT

looking to Thorrn,, I motion from him to come forward 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:19:25 pm CDT

~scurries away to the side~ 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:21:12 pm CDT

Notices the wink of the Senior Captain, shoves My girl aside and walks up to the Captain 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:21:18 pm CDT

kneels up straighter..~smiling~ 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 21:22:23 pm CDT

Phoenix grins ~ 

 

maddie~anne{GS} 21:22:26 pm CDT

~cast downwards her eyes in respect to the sense of what is about to happen~

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:23:05 pm CDT

smiling as my friend and Brother approaches

Thorrn you have served long and well as an advisor to the Council of Captains and have worked to make GS a better place. By your acts of loyalty, honesty, and honor, you have proven to the Council of Captains that you have earned the right to become a full Captain of the Council. 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:23:33 pm CDT

Grabs My helmet and puts it up to stand in respect to the Senior Captain

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:24:58 pm CDT

reaching behind me, I take from the table a helmet, with sea sleen fur on the crest, and hand it to Thorrn

my friend and bother from this time on, you are a CAPTAIN of GS.....and will afforded the same rights, privileges, and expectations of one.

extending my hand to him

Welcome Thorrn, Captain of Gorean Shores! 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:25:29 pm CDT

Smiles brightly as i hear the words

I´ve done what i can and i´m glad it has been found sufficient enough to not be in disgrace.

I thank You and the Council for this big honor and hope to be of more and better service for Our cherished home. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:26:10 pm CDT

May the PK's have mercy on your soul.. for none here will grinning 

 

Dak 21:26:25 pm CDT

congrats Thorrn 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:26:29 pm CDT

~the little kajira's heart is racing, seeing her Master receive the helmet of Captain of Gorean Shores~ 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 21:27:54 pm CDT

Congrats Captain Thorrn been a long time coming 

 

Bretval, Merchant 21:28:04 pm CDT

~smiling widely~ Congratulations Thorrn... you deserve this 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:29:47 pm CDT

shaking Thorrn's hand I am glad we could both be here tonight to get this done 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:29:56 pm CDT

congratulations Jarl Thorrn...pretty smile..well deserved 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:30:05 pm CDT

*L* for having to rely on the mercy of the PK and no one else.

Good advise Bro, Gor is a tough world and not made for mercy.

 

Takes the crest of the sleen from My brother Capatain, looks down at it´s beauty with a smile of feeling so honored to wear this now and i put it up on My helmet, adjusting it well and carefully so it will not get lost.

Takes the hand of the Senior Captain and clasps it ... thank You for this moment. 

 

Jon 21:30:34 pm CDT

Well Done Thorrn!! 

 

Hunter{aura} 21:30:49 pm CDT

Fist crashes into shoulder...hail Thorrn new captain 

 

maddie~anne{GS} 21:31:41 pm CDT

~sings with happy smile~ this one offers her congratulations, Captain, Jarl Thorrn...~blows a kiss to the new Captain~

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:32:50 pm CDT

I´m glad i made it tonight to be in here, bro.

Turns around to the crowd of the forum and thanks all for the congratulations and well wishes

Then i wink at the Man Hunter to step up to the dais if it is still His wish to do a pledge. 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:33:27 pm CDT

~wide blue eyes are glistening, so happy for her handsome Master 

 

maddie~anne{GS} 21:34:09 pm CDT

~settles back in respect and silence at the new Captain's words...sensing a two for one night~

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:35:41 pm CDT

catches all the blown kisses so they don´t get wasted all in vain smiles at all the lovely slave girls 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:36:16 pm CDT

grinning to Thorrn slave girl kisses should never ever be wasted 

 

Jon 21:37:03 pm CDT

Aye Thorrn, never waste a kisses from the girls!!! 

 

Hunter{aura} 21:37:58 pm CDT

approaching the dais ....Shaking Senior Captain's hand..then Captain Thorrn's hand...well done indeed friend

I would pledge My sword....if the council will have it...

and for one simple reason

a finer group of folks with common purpose I dont believe there is anywhere 

 

Jon 21:38:07 pm CDT

nodding to The Sr. Captain, the Other Free and the girls!! 

 

Jon 21:38:55 pm CDT

Watching and listening! 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:39:04 pm CDT

so true Sandman and Jondolar, never waste kisses from the girls and good luck the stock can be refilled anytime *l*

Waits for Hunter to catch My wink to step up to the dais. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:39:16 pm CDT

shaking Hunter's hand I nod to the man 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:40:32 pm CDT

I´m very glad to hear that You are still so eager to pleadge My friend.

Do you pledge your honor, loyalty and steel to the Council of Captains of Gorean Shores, your obedience to the Decisions of the Council, and your support and defense of the tavern to the best of your ability? Do you pledge to make Gorean Shores your Home and to put no other loyalties above this tavern? 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:42:11 pm CDT

smiling as Thorrn speaks the familiar words 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:43:47 pm CDT

Smiles as i shake the Man´s hand while speaking the words of the good old pledge of Our home which He already agrees to before i finish the sentence. 

 

Hunter{aura} 21:44:18 pm CDT

Aye I do pledge so...I swear allegiance....

I have no other home on Gor 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:44:58 pm CDT

Hunter, it is a special pleasure for Me to take Your pledge as My first task in My new position. The pledge of a good Gorean Man like You are. 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:45:50 pm CDT

As Captain of Gorean Shores, and on behalf of the Council of Captains of Gorean Shores, I accept your pledge and welcome you, as a Pledged Patron. Upon your posting of your pledge to the Gorean Shores Message Board on the Homepage, your name will be added to the list of Pledged Patrons.

 

Congratulations. 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 21:46:26 pm CDT

Aye congrats my freind Hunter 

 

Jon 21:46:52 pm CDT

Well Met Hunter!! 

 

ruby~{Randolph} 21:47:52 pm CDT

congratutions Master Hunter..girls Dear Friend, for longer than we both care to remember..blows kisses 

 

Bretval, Merchant 21:48:17 pm CDT

Congratulations Hunter 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:48:42 pm CDT

May a mere slave welcome You home Master Hunter? she looks forward to serving the Master soon. 

 

Dak 21:48:54 pm CDT

Welcome to Gorean Shores as a new pledge, Hunter 

 

maddie~anne{GS} 21:49:00 pm CDT

this one offers her congratulations, Pledged, Master Hunter ~softly singing out with happiness before offering a blown kiss~

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:49:10 pm CDT

welcome to Gorean Shores Hunter 

 

Hunter{aura} 21:49:23 pm CDT

I am honoured Thorrn...especially pleased this first duty fell to You nodding also to Sandman.....

A Good Gorean Man I am working toward but I thank You....its a journey and I have much to learn..what I may lack in gorean skill I hope I make up for with respect for all here and enduring friendship 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:51:02 pm CDT

This is a good end of a forum night and so i guess no more forum topics will be discussed tonight.

Thanks Dak for leading it as so often and thanks to My lovely snowrose girl for scribing, also as so often. 

 

Dak 21:52:29 pm CDT

Thanks Thorrn, but I didn't lead this night , Bretval did , I was late getting here ! 

 

Hunter{aura} 21:53:08 pm CDT

My thanks to all for the welcome home

feels My chest tight...swallowing hard...nods and smiles around the room 

 

Dak 21:53:10 pm CDT

Thanks snowrose for scribing 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Advisor 21:53:25 pm CDT

welcome home Hunter.

It is the spirit which counts most to make someone a Gorean Man or a Gorean slave.

The skills can be trained and learned by observation and discusssion like in the forum or in taking part in nights in the tavern and in educating slaves with the help of some tools. That will also do well in this. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:54:04 pm CDT

thanks for all to their faithfulness to our home

to Bretval for running forum and pretty snowrose for scribing 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:54:14 pm CDT

Thank You for leading the topics Master Bretval And thanks to Everyone for contributions 

 

Dak 21:54:31 pm CDT

knowledge is the best tool, *smiles* 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:55:14 pm CDT

Takes off the Advisor tag and thanks the Senior Capatian with a grin for the hint .... looks like i really got used to that one but now it is time for a new tag - can´t take the pledge of Hunter as Advisor *l* 

 

Hunter{aura} 21:55:20 pm CDT

Aye Dak..I hear you 

 

maddie~anne{GS} 21:55:51 pm CDT

this one offers her thanks, Master Bretval, for leading the Forum this night...

and she offers her thanks, mistress snowrose for your scribing this night...

she also offers her happiness to The Tavern's new Captain Jarl Thorrn and Pledged Master Hunter this night ~smiles brightly~

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:56:15 pm CDT

Bretval running the forum tonight?

Thanks to You, sorry for being wrong in My former post. 

 

Dak 21:59:15 pm CDT

it's ok, Captain, it was logical to make that assumption,

*smiles* 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:00:27 pm CDT

Knowledge is the best tool to know Dak

And it is the tool which never can get sharp enough because Wwe never stop to learn and get surprised with new things.

smiles to maddie-anne and nods thank you to the girl for her well wishes *S* 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 22:00:50 pm CDT

smiling as Dak speaks,, and thank you Dak for leading forum so many nights,,

your faithfulness is appreciated 

 

Bretval, Merchant 22:01:42 pm CDT

Captain Sandman and Captain Thorrn, I had some thing to say and said them... now We will see the results over time *shrug* 

 

Dak 22:01:43 pm CDT

thanks, it is nice to be appreciated, *smiles* 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 22:04:29 pm CDT

smiling to Bretval

that is why we have forum 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:05:17 pm CDT

I heard You Bretval and will not forget. 

 

Dak 22:05:23 pm CDT

it has been a topic of discussion for sometime, now! 

 

Bretval, Merchant 22:05:59 pm CDT

Exactly true, Captain 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 22:06:45 pm CDT

the lovely shimmer has finished all her requirements for red silks...just needs to serve and dance for a Captain...~just a lil hint~ 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 22:07:35 pm CDT

grinning at snow,, perhaps its a good time to adjourn to the tavern for a drink and a dance 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 22:07:35 pm CDT

grinning at snow,, perhaps its a good time to adjourn to the tavern for a drink and a dance 

 

Jon 22:08:07 pm CDT

Dak..I also offer My thanks for All You have done for My Home!! 

 

Hunter{aura} 22:08:18 pm CDT

thirsty work ....follows 

 

shimmer{GS}~t~ 22:08:23 pm CDT

blush

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:08:43 pm CDT

What a pity now Dak. a topic good solved and forum has to look for something else to discuss *chuckles* 

 

Dak 22:08:48 pm CDT

Thank Jon 

 

Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:11:57 pm CDT

moving over to the tavern for drinks and dances ... heel your Master, My slave 

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