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Present:

 

Sandman

Thadron

Ramses

Thorrn

Kazar

Dak

Bretval

Lita

Karima

 

snowrose

karinda

shimmer

aatira

flicka

 

Dak 19:19:33 pm CDT

if any has a topic, whisper to Me, and I will open the Forum 

 

Dak 19:25:25 pm CDT

ok, I will open the forum hoping the scribe s rady, *smiles*,I have a topic, same rule, keep chit chat and greetings to whispers, for the benefit of the scribe, 

 

Here goes, first topic 

 

Newbies 

 

Quotes For This Week 

 

"I had a respect for caste honor. Honor was honor, in small things as well as great. How can one practice honor in great things, if not in small things?" -

Rogue of Gor, p.231 

"The shortest and surest way to live with honor in the world is to be in reality what we would appear to be; all human virtues increase and strengthen themselves by the practice and experience of them." (Socrates) 

"As a leader, you need courage to do what needs to be done...to do what you know is the right thing. There will always be those who tell you you’re wrong – even when you're thoroughly convinced that you’re right. There will always be some tempting you to take an easier and less resistant path. And, there will always be those who – either unintentionally or purposefully – create obstacles that will challenge your mettle. Even the very best leaders must regularly pass the courage test." "Courage is about having the guts, nerve, and heart to do things that foster and support progress. And that begins with the realization that:

1) improvement won’t be found on the path of least resistance known as conformity, and

2) status quo is the archenemy of progress. When you think about it, "doing things the way we've always done them" requires no leadership at all. What is there to lead to? How can others follow someone who's not going anywhere? That’s why "leadership" and "courage" must be viewed as synonymous concepts." - From Leadership Courage by David Cottrell and Eric Harvey "The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires."

- William Arthur Ward 

Questions 

1) What are some things you feel every newbie, Free or slave, should know about Gorean role play? 

2) What are at least 2 pieces of advice you would give to a newbie to Gor? To Gorean Shores? 

3) What have you done, personally, in the last week to make Gorean Shores a place a newbie would want to come role play? 

 

Ramses, Captain of GS 19:27:27 pm CDT

*smiles* 

interesting questions 

 

Dak 19:29:08 pm CDT

if you come to Gor be dedicated t learning what Gor is allabout ! 

 

Ramses, Captain of GS 19:30:20 pm CDT

it is probably good to know that you need to check some of your earthen emotions at the door 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:30:35 pm CDT

Most important to know about Gorean role play is . . . . having read some of the books or pay a lot of attention to the r/p going on in here till the newbie got the spirit of Gor. 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:32:24 pm CDT

The 2 least advices 

Learn, learn, ask others and get to know yourself and what you are truely ... and then look at experienced persons how they do, whether as Master or as slave. 

 

shimmer{GS} 19:32:41 pm CDT

even though girl truly was not a newbe to gorean life...she was totally judging the home when she came in that was why girl choose to come in when she saw there were slave classes... to get her feet wet in a non dangerous way and being able to get her questions answered... girl likes that your home has a dedicated night just for slave learning... 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:33:09 pm CDT

Sorry nothing done for a newbie last week, didn´t meet any non-goren who should interest in becoming a gorean. 

 

Ramses, Captain of GS 19:35:14 pm CDT

*nods to shimmer* 

 

shimmer{GS} 19:36:03 pm CDT

girl also liked that you gave a two week observation period before making a choice about taking a collar... as most homes girl checked out only gave you three visits to observe before making you choose if you want to join their homes... 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 19:36:38 pm CDT

aye shimmer 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 19:36:47 pm CDT

As shimmer said, she is not new to Gor, but snowrose hopes she and the other girls have helped her learn the ways of GS...and to know she is part of the home now 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:36:53 pm CDT

Very good point Ramses, to let some of ones earthan habits at the door when entering Gor. That was probably the hardest point for Me to undersatnd Gor and then pledge to be a Member og Port Kar. 

 

Ramses, Captain of GS 19:38:25 pm CDT

Thorrn, for Me as well 

and as issue I struggle with to this day 

 

shimmer{GS} 19:39:29 pm CDT

smiling at mistress snowrose yes you have made girl feel great and welcome here and the Free also have been very helpful and encouraging... but it was scarey truing to find a home where a girl fit in... and that the home was not just a place to be furred with just a little r/p.. 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:40:24 pm CDT

Ramses 

After reading the books and understanding that the people who come in here knew about the contents of the books and comitted just to that i lost My scrouples. They want what they get. *l* 

 

Ramses, Captain of GS 19:42:57 pm CDT

*chuckles* 

well said Thorrn 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:43:27 pm CDT

I say frankly in the times of all this rt gender battles politcal correctness and overdone women´s lib i enjoy to be just the opposite in here ... in the limits of the gorean r/p 

 

Dak 19:44:56 pm CDT

I can go long with that, Thorrn, *smiles* 

 

Lita, Physician 19:44:59 pm CDT

Karima, might I inquire if You are a slave, or a Free Woman? 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:46:01 pm CDT

Hears shimmer and smiles 

It is good to hear that the efforst the Patrons and slaves of Port Kar put in to newbies is recognized and obiously helps them to enjoy this place *S*S**S 

 

{PennyWise} His Whore 19:46:16 pm CDT

quirks a slender brow at the abruptness of the other Lady 

I'm a Free Woman in Gor, Lita. 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:46:47 pm CDT

points to karima´s tagline and whispers to Lita 

she is a whore *chuckles* 

 

{PennyWise} His Whore 19:47:13 pm CDT

bursts out laughing, realizing she didn't change her tag for the different site.....sorry everyone 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 19:47:45 pm CDT

Karmia grins 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:47:45 pm CDT

scratches my head, remembering to have met the FW Karima a little while ago as slave karima in here 

 

Dak 19:47:54 pm CDT

not often you see a Free Woman, that admits to being a whore, *laughs* 

 

shimmer{GS} 19:48:23 pm CDT

girl knows when she first was looking for something she yearned for something she could not find in the real world... she searched b/s rooms but just could not find what she was looking for... then one day a man came in and you almost could feel his power... he asked would anyone like to learn and be a gorean slave... girl then asked him in whispers what is Gor... boy did he show a girl... laughs... 

girl thinks a slave needs good leaders and Master's to show her her slavery and what she can become when she embraces it.. Master made me read merauders before he would even take me in our old home... so girl knew what she was getting into 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:51:08 pm CDT

Grins at Dak, it is indeed seldome in Gor 

So true shimmer 

A Gorean world and r/p needs obeying and willingly slaves but also true MAsters.

For both it is usually a long way to become that truely. 

 

shimmer{GS} 19:55:36 pm CDT

sorry about using the word me girl is still remembering that it is one of the hardest lesson she is learning here. 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 19:55:43 pm CDT

did I stop discussion? 

 

Lita, Physician 19:56:46 pm CDT

Forgive Me, Karima, but I was confused by Your tag line. And this is our Forum, Discussion Night, where We may all speak a bi8t more freely than We do in role-play. 

 

Dak 19:56:50 pm CDT

it maybe the discussion has about run it's course ! 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:56:58 pm CDT

Na Thadron 

Wwe are still snickering about a FW coming in with a tagline as a whore form her other chat place in Poolside 

 

Lita, Physician 19:57:27 pm CDT

*S* No at all Captain Thadron. 

 

Lita, Physician 19:58:10 pm CDT

Well, if you have other topics then, Dak... 

 

Karima~PennyWise 19:58:11 pm CDT

chuckles softly 

no worries Lita, was a slip of the mind on my part, I apologise for the confusion. 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 19:58:33 pm CDT

good, that was not my intention 

 

Karima~PennyWise 19:59:07 pm CDT

glad for the veil hiding her light blush 

Yes Yes, what I get for being a dumb blonde eh 

 

Lita, Physician 20:01:10 pm CDT

I had thought this topic might be a good one, since We have all been discussing of late what to do to bring more folks to Our HOme. 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:01:13 pm CDT

Tries to veryify Karima´s hair colour ... so a blond 

That explains all and You are forgiven by Me *grin* 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:02:29 pm CDT

when snow's free time opens up, she will try to spend time in the Inn, clean it up 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 20:03:52 pm CDT

Mistress each day flicka has gone to the Inn in Poolside, she lights a lamp within its walls, and tends to the fire. 

 

shimmer{GS} 20:04:05 pm CDT

girl would like to go with you if she may Mistress but girl is not very good at harta serves. 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:04:25 pm CDT

Is Portus not in charge of the Inn anymore? 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:04:32 pm CDT

but right now she has to beg for understanding if she is not around as much for a couple of weeks 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:04:56 pm CDT

Nods to Lita 

May be going more often to the Inn and be there for people to ask and awake interest in them is a way to drag more over to GS 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 20:04:57 pm CDT

~low chuckle~ to date none have joined her, do You think perhaps that in the fitful light of the fire and the lamplight her shadow makes her look like a monster? 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:05:11 pm CDT

snowrose r/t always comes first 

 

shimmer{GS} 20:05:44 pm CDT

giggles at flicka her eyes shining. 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:06:01 pm CDT

Jarl Torn as i have been spending time in the inn also ~ 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:06:27 pm CDT

yes shimmer...and we'll have you do a harta serve to Big Ole Hairy Master in class Wednesday night...learn by doing 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:06:57 pm CDT

giggles at snow rose 

 

Lita, Physician 20:06:58 pm CDT

Thank you, flicka. I saw the WEbMaster in poolside the other day and whispered to HIm, asking Him what was to become of the Inn now that Portus and Sophie were not running it. He merely responded that He wasn't worried about it or something, not a very responsive answer, but all I could get out of HIm. 

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:07:25 pm CDT

Doubtful, flicka... your shape would betray that error 

 

shimmer{GS} 20:07:33 pm CDT

giggles oh Jarl Thorrn will be there on Wednesday?

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:08:11 pm CDT

Lita he was suppsoed too e,ail me what answer on that `~` he said was he owns the in doesnt run it ~` 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:08:56 pm CDT

not that I want to talk about the Inn every forum... 

but we should be there more sharing Gor from time to time or others will use it for other things... Portus is a good man, but the next may not be 

 

Lita, Physician 20:09:21 pm CDT

No, Lady, Portus is not. It seems He and Sophie came to a brief parting of the ways, and decided they no longer wished to deal with the Inn. I hear They got back together, but apparently They have not come back to the Inn, and as near as I can tell do not intend to. 

 

Dak 20:10:01 pm CDT

I think the writing at the top of the room kinda says it all ! 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 20:10:11 pm CDT

~laughing~ me me me !!! mistress snowrose, can flicka be Big Ole Hairy Master? 

Mistress, hmm well hopefully it will resolve. 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:10:19 pm CDT

nods 

Thank You, Lita. A shame for that, but ah well. 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 20:10:48 pm CDT

~chuckling~ ah Master Bretval, flicka seems to recall Jarl Thorrn alikening her to an elephant the other day. 

 

Dak 20:10:49 pm CDT

they have seldom been in the Inn since the uprising over it last year ! 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:11:01 pm CDT

~blinks~ sorry flicka.. 

 

Lita, Physician 20:11:02 pm CDT

It refers issues on Gorean matters to the Council at GS, Dak, but it does not specifically say that GS is in charge of the Inn or anything. *shrugs* 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:11:02 pm CDT

I'm not that happy with bothering the Webmaster about the Inn... he has it available and if someone would come along and promise to be there daily monitoring, he would probably say okay.... 

I think it should be us, though we have enough problems keeping the GS rooms filled and active 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:11:27 pm CDT

Na shimmer, i will sent My skyBear as hairy Master to slave classes 

*grin* 

Nods to Lita 

They are tagged again but i didn´t hear yet that They also took over the Inn again. 

Last i know from Sophie is They laid the responsibility for it down. 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:12:34 pm CDT

best for GS people to just go there, use it...reclaim it... 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:15:38 pm CDT

A beautiful and temptatious elephant, flicka 

*wink* 

 

Lita, Physician 20:17:06 pm CDT

So are there any other topics then, Dak? 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:18:06 pm CDT

have taLKED TOO Portus he deosnt know if he wants it back thier not spending time thier ``~ 

bestw ay is too just reclaim it use it ~ 

 

Dak 20:18:16 pm CDT

I have no other one, does anyone have a topic? 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 20:19:36 pm CDT

~gathers up the compliment from Jarl Thorrn, that she has so shamelessly elicted~ 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:20:54 pm CDT

well, that was to make the newbie flicka feel well in GS. 

*big grin* 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:21:02 pm CDT

~looks across the Dais~ Ramses, are you still here? 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:21:37 pm CDT

not a topic, just a gentle reminder to the kajirae...sign the posts, and chores have to be done before next class 

 

Lita, Physician 20:21:53 pm CDT

would any of you slaves have anything you would like to discuss? 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:23:18 pm CDT

sends a whispered posting with a topic to Dak 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:23:20 pm CDT

we also will have a game night one week from tomorrow 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:24:06 pm CDT

will there be book club the night after game night Master Thadron? 

 

karinda {GS} 20:24:10 pm CDT

mistress girl is having trouble with her word to cut and paste and place something in the corks......if she can't post it, can she do it in front of the Free so they know it is done, or does she still need to tinker with her word to get it to work so she can post? 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:24:49 pm CDT

no, no book club the following Tuesday 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:25:34 pm CDT

have you tried notepad karinda...it's not at finicky as word, for her anyway 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:26:10 pm CDT

copy and paste? 

why not just type what you wish to post, right there in the text box on the web page? 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:26:13 pm CDT

Thank You Master Thadron 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:26:15 pm CDT

waits to see if we have a new topic 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 20:26:27 pm CDT

karinda, try doing it as an email to yourself. This girl never uses word docs and stuff, they are just too complex for her. So what she does is C&Ps it into an email and then copies that draft email across to the cork board. 

 

karinda {GS} 20:26:59 pm CDT

karinda doesn't have notepad on this laptop. she did on her last one, but not that one. she will figure out something. 

girl hushes as she patiently waits for the next topic. 

 

Dak 20:27:01 pm CDT

I have another topic ,

Can a runaway slave, ran from GS to another place. come back, be killed and then come as a new slave person come back to GS after a while? 

 

karinda {GS} 20:27:43 pm CDT

nods to flicka answering without words she would try just that. smiles 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:27:56 pm CDT

never mind, silly Me 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 20:28:21 pm CDT

~settles down to listen to the Free Person's thoughts on this question~ 

 

karinda {GS} 20:28:24 pm CDT

gasps.....um.....isn't that slave still dead? hypothetically? 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:29:56 pm CDT

I could see how she could come back, with permissions of the Council. Because the character is dead, yes. but if she has permission, why not start anew? 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:30:43 pm CDT

seems some have gone that route already ~ 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:31:32 pm CDT

anyone who has been killed and the Council has agreed that that person is indeed dead, would not be welcomed back as a member of GS again 

a runaway slave is another matter... that would be up to the Council 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:31:49 pm CDT

to run away, with no word, make people wonder and worry if something real may have happened to you, is so thoughtless, meanwhile frolicking with a new Master somewhere shows such a lack of slave character that she has doubts 

 

karinda {GS} 20:32:06 pm CDT

shutters at the thought of being killed. she got scared by Master Kuurus once.....He held a knife to girl's throat here once. frightening.......once dead......aren't they always.....DEAD? 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:32:26 pm CDT

It has been heard that this is a way for a slave to get rid of some faults and start fresh in here or as a slave coming in as a guest, in the collar of another Master. 

 

* 20:34:55 pm CDT

if the home is in need of participants in RP then it would be good to allow that slave another chance. sometimes people make ill decisions or are forced into bad situations. 

i think it sends a bad image if the Home is not willing to allow some forgiveness. should it continue to occur then no One will take that slave seriously anyway. 

furthermore...when one is speaking of a slave being killed...are we speaking of RP for the sake of RP or being killed as in being banned? 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:35:29 pm CDT

I personally see nothing wrong in giving a person a second chance...but to continue to give a chance to someone that doesn't straighten their act up is pointless and looks bad on the homestone 

 

Lita, Physician 20:35:46 pm CDT

karinda, it used to be that on on-line Gor, whether you were Free or slave, if your character was killed, you left on-line Gor forever, never to return. It was a point of Honor. Alas, on-line, it seems Honor is not as strong as it used to be. 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:37:04 pm CDT

But if you keep killing people, and those killed left online gor forever, the online world would eventually run out of goreans 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:37:24 pm CDT

Lita ~` yes if one is killed off ~`~ 

,however if one is a runaway wants a new start as in earth all is given second chance 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 20:37:30 pm CDT

~listens to the asterisk, seeing some sense in what is said.~ 

Indeed, does being killed in roleplay equate to being banned. 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:37:45 pm CDT

Thorrn, I can't speak for the entire Council, but I can say that every case would be reviewed by the council if an individual petitioned the Council.... 

it is my thought that if a slave realized their mistake at that time they through themselves at the mercy of the Council and we go from there 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:38:26 pm CDT

I don't think being killed is the same as being banned. the one dying is the role played character, not the person behind the keyboard. 

 

Lita, Physician 20:38:42 pm CDT

Nameless One, this may seem harsh, but if you cannot even take a name to come in here, why should anyone take any account of any opinion you might express? That is just My thought, and if the Men decide to allow you to speak, then so be it. 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:39:15 pm CDT

snow has not seen a slave killed in GS in 4 years...but runaways are another story...some have been give third and fourth chances...and still leave if they don't get exactly what they want, when they want it 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:39:33 pm CDT

nodding to ech one here and then smiling as I look to karima,, we have had the policy of death being final in Gorean Shores long before i was here. 

I believe the policy is in reponse to folks being able to change characters willy nilly and bad folks just being able to return under a new name 

having said that, it is rare indeed for someone to be killed,, looking around the room,, does anyone know of someome who wasnt a problem being killed,, can any name more than one or two? 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:39:59 pm CDT

Nods to Thadron 

It is understood that such things are at the mercy of the Council and each case will be handled individually. 

The question of My interest was if this is a way that can be gone in principle. 

 

* 20:40:46 pm CDT

because i thought this was a forum where all are welcome to speak as equals and what i choose to log in as shouldnt matter 

attitudes like that are exactly what makes people not want to come back Lady. 

 

karinda {GS} 20:41:05 pm CDT

karinda hasn't seen any person Free or slave be killed since being here for 2 years now Master Sandman.... 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 20:41:12 pm CDT

Aye so there be the rub, mistress snowrose, can a leopard change its spots? 

How many chances do you give a girl? Or indeed a Master or Mistress Who proves to be dishonourable? 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:41:20 pm CDT

again... I believe that it is not clearly black and white... 

when someone is killed or forced collared, the Council rules on if it's legitimate... if the person was killed by a drive by assassin.. then the Council would have to decide... was it valid... 

if someone is killed here, it could be the same as being banned... but would take a ruling of the Council 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:41:31 pm CDT

chuckles....I recall skyla/melina killing herself months ago 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:41:33 pm CDT

only name comes too mind is dew 

 

Lita, Physician 20:41:33 pm CDT

Kazar, Gor is not Earth, and on Gor there were no "Second Chances" AGain, Earthen thoughts intruding on Gor, as Jarl Thorrn said earlier. And yes in some cases a second chance could be given, depending on the offence and the cause for it. But too many treat a Gorean home as a revolving door, coming in and "playi8ng" until they get in t rouble, then leaving and coming back in a few days with a new name. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:41:51 pm CDT

at the same time the Council in its wisdom,, is the authority on the finalty of death,, so that folks dont just come in,, go ninja on someone and leave having killed off a patron or slave 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:42:16 pm CDT

karima she is still around in gd 

 

Bretval, Merchant 20:42:26 pm CDT

That is My thought on the matter, snow .... Who could trust such a slave 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:43:07 pm CDT

nods... well said Sandman... 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:43:12 pm CDT

I only rememebr the killing of two people since My time in here. 

Once a slave for reasons i don´t recall or never knew, may it has bene a dualling perosn. The other was a FW who asked to be kileld so she will be banned from here and not be abale anymore to come in, like She wnated to overcome the addiction of chat. 

 

Lita, Physician 20:44:53 pm CDT

Kazar, there was lyle, who just disappeared. As We are reasonably certain that was a case of dualling, I personally would not be in favor of allowing her to return under any name. But again, that is just My opinion, and matters not unless the Council supports it. 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:45:02 pm CDT

I think that Sandman and I have been pretty clear... 

but I keep listening and think that what we are saying isn't understood 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 20:46:43 pm CDT

Master Thadron You and Master Sandman are perfectly clear to this girl. Trust the wisdom of the Council. Not just the current Council, but all of the Councillors of the past Who have made GS strong. 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:46:48 pm CDT

Lita, as a loyal member of GS your opinion would be listened to.... 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:47:59 pm CDT

*person 

Sure this is forum and it is freer in the habits 

but one habit still applies on Gor ... stand with your known name to what you say. That is not a bad atitude which so far caused any problems for Gor. 

 

Lita, Physician 20:49:04 pm CDT

I believe that, Thadron, but I try to keep in mind that My opinion is exactly that, My opinion, and no one, particularly the Council, is bound by it. And the Council could have perfectly good reasons for disagreeing with my Opinion. 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:49:57 pm CDT

we do not tolerate duallers... but if you identify who you are and if there is still a grievance.. the Council will rule on it... 

we can't have people changing names willy nilly as was so eloquently stated earlier 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 20:50:05 pm CDT

Lita `grins yes lyl 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:52:43 pm CDT

Dak... is there any other topic? 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:52:47 pm CDT

Very good rule not to allow persons with dual names or change them willy nilly. That will cause lots of troubles in the short and the long run. 

That is why My topiuc was about doing this formally with the consent of the Council of Captains, not other way without knowdledge and agreemant of the Captains should be done in this. 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:53:56 pm CDT

and that is the right way... lay yourself at the mercy of the Council and trust the Council to make the right decision... 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:55:26 pm CDT

I don't know if it's possible, but I think anyone on the Council of Captains should be able to see IP addresses....but only here in GS, not in any of the sister sites, that would get rid of the worry of "is such and such dualing?" 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:55:46 pm CDT

perhaps something to pass by to Gary 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:56:07 pm CDT

that wouldn't include the Captains Emeritus, just the active council 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:56:51 pm CDT

hmmmm. it's part of the agreement when you pay a membership that isp won't be shown...a contract 

 

Dak 20:56:52 pm CDT

nope, that was it , smiles* 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:56:53 pm CDT

Karima... there are ways to determine duallers 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:57:37 pm CDT

shrugs...was just a thought 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:57:49 pm CDT

The Captains can do so already, Karima 

But that doesn´t solve the problem about dualling really. 

In some places like army basesALL people have the same IP. 

In other places around rthe world the IP adresses of people change with each time they turn down the internet connection/router and start it again. 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:58:13 pm CDT

but as snowrose said.. you cannot see the IP's of members 

 

Karima~PennyWise 20:58:27 pm CDT

good point, Thorrn....hadn't thought of that little issue 

 

Dak 20:59:33 pm CDT

if there is nothing else I will close the Forum 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:59:44 pm CDT

The Council has one announcement when all is finished 

 

karinda {GS} 21:00:18 pm CDT

listens to Master Thadron...... 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 21:00:38 pm CDT

~looks to Master Thadron to hear the Council's announcement~ 

 

Dak 21:00:45 pm CDT I will close the Forum, and thank all for coming and participating in th Forum, . 

thanks flicka for scribing 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 21:01:00 pm CDT

~listens~ 

 

Dak 21:01:16 pm CDT

You have the floor , Captain 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 21:01:33 pm CDT

Thank You for leading Master Dak 

thank you pretty flicka for scribing 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 21:01:41 pm CDT

I should say, the Senior Captain has an announcement... 

~motioning to Sandman as I stand to his side~ 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:02:01 pm CDT

Thanks Dak for leading and flicka for scribing 

listens to the Captains 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 21:02:14 pm CDT

Dak Thanks for leading and flicka for scrbing 

 

karinda {GS} 21:03:07 pm CDT

turns her attention to the Senior Captain. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:03:24 pm CDT

rising I stand before Patrons guests and slaves and speak 

The Council of Captains of Gorean Shores is an august body, my friends, one made up of men that have given much of themselves to see to the betterment of our home. The list of those who have served is long and among then men respected throughout Gor 

 

Bretval, Merchant 21:03:39 pm CDT

Thanks for leading Dak and thanks to you for scribing flicka 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:04:52 pm CDT

Tonight, the Council will grow stronger as another name is added to that list... 

Looking down to the Man the Council has chosen... Thorrn will you approach the dais 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:05:58 pm CDT

Looks up as i hear My name ... and walks up to the Senior Captain 

Stands before the dais and looks frankly and with a clear view at the Man. 

 

karinda {GS} 21:06:47 pm CDT

emeralds pool......with gladness watching 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 21:06:54 pm CDT

~I nod at the Senior Captain's words~ 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 21:07:57 pm CDT

~A shiver goes through her as her Master is called to the Dais 

 

Bretval, Merchant 21:08:47 pm CDT

~a smile for Thorrn~ 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:09:03 pm CDT

smiling as Thorrn stands proud before me 

Thorrn you once swore to defend Gorean Shores when you accepted the oath of your pledge. I will call upon you to do so once more to not only reaffirm that pledge, but to extend it. 

Looking down at the man I speak further 

Do you, Thorrn, pledge to uphold the laws and rules of Gorean Shores, to protect it and those that call it home from all that would seek it's downfall? 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 21:10:52 pm CDT

listens for the Free Man's response 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:11:19 pm CDT

Nods clearly and speaks 

I will renew joyfully My pledge to My home of Port Kar and will serve and protect My home and all those who call it home as i did and strive to do better according to the rules and the calls of the Council, if there will be any. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:12:03 pm CDT

And do you further swear to place no other Gorean home above this one in your heart, to seek to better this place by your words and deeds? Do you swear, as an Advisor to the Council of Gorean Shores to not only uphold out rules but to assist the Council in arbitrating any disputes, to answer any questions, to the best of your ability? 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:14:56 pm CDT

I hear the Senior Captain and understood His words clearly 

Yes I well hold My , this Gorean Home above all other places in My heart and words and in deeds. I swear that as an Advisor i will assist the Council of Captains in arbitrating any disputs, answer any questions to the best of My ability. 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 21:16:48 pm CDT

~I stomp my staff on the floor, well pleased~ 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:17:20 pm CDT

Nodding and smiling at the man 

Do you swear to keep Council Business secret from all who are outside the Council, even those of your house? 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:18:48 pm CDT

Nods, I swear that I will keep Council Business as secret outside of the Council, even of those of My house. 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:21:30 pm CDT

Well, then, as Senior Captain of Gorean Shores, I am pleased and proud to present the council's newest member, Thorrn , advisor to the Council of Gorean Shores. 

Smiling and using the words of Kyoto who welcomed me to the Council 

"May the Priest Kings have mercy on your soul." 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:22:53 pm CDT

clapping Thorrn on the shoulder Welcome to the Council Brother 

 

aatira {Dak} 21:23:15 pm CDT

Congrats! 

 

Dak 21:23:40 pm CDT

congrats, Adviser Thorrn 

 

Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 21:23:53 pm CDT ~I turn to the new advisor and grab him by the shoulders~ welcome as advisor to the Council... 

~may the Priest Kings at least give you great patience~ 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:24:08 pm CDT

Smiles in joy to be worth this honour. 

Bows a knee down to the floor, as symbol of respect to the Senior Captain and the long list of honorable predecessors mentioned earlier. 

I hope I will be found worthy to be in that list, Captain Sandman. 

Raises again. 

Thanks for the good wishes for the assistance of the Priest Kings 

 

flicka-slave of Keeper 21:24:36 pm CDT

~smiles at Jarl Thorrn, softly speaking her pleasure at His elevation~ 

Jarl Thorrn, a girl looks forwards to Your wisdom on the Council. 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:24:46 pm CDT

Stands beofre the Captain and accepts His shoulder clappings with joy 

 

Bretval, Merchant 21:24:59 pm CDT

~a Gorean salute of congratulation to the new member of the Council~ 

 

snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 21:25:08 pm CDT

~small hand clap hard~ Congratulations, my wonderful Master~ ~blows Him a lush slave kiss~ 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:25:53 pm CDT

and as i said to Kyoto's comment,,,may the PK's have mercy becuase " finishing his line...... for none others will have mercy" 

 

karinda {GS} 21:26:20 pm CDT

girl wipes a happy tear and speaks

long deserved Advisor Thorrn. girl wishes Master congratulations. 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:26:58 pm CDT

Thanks for the congrats, Thadron 

It means a lot to Me 

Smiles to the crowd and thanks A/all for the good and well wishes. 

May they help Me to be successful as advisor, successful for the flourishing and blooming of Oour beloved home. 

 

Lita, Physician 21:27:04 pm CDT

Congratulations, Jarl! 

 

karinda {GS} 21:27:29 pm CDT

girl also wishes to thank Master Dak for leading and flicka for scribing. 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:28:00 pm CDT

Chuckles at the Captain 

I know, no other will have so having the mercy of the Priest Kings will great assistance *l* 

 

Kazar~infamous pirate 21:28:12 pm CDT

Jarl Thorn `~ grins well deserved my friend 

 

karinda {GS} 21:28:44 pm CDT

may karinda whisper Advisor Thorrn? 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:28:52 pm CDT

Catches the kiiss of My slave and smiles with tenderness at her, My slave of nearly four years now and still she is her Master´s joy 

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:29:05 pm CDT

Waves to my Brother Thadron as he leaves,, I also must attend to Rt as the Tharlarion will be leaving the stables in less than 8 Hours,,,thank you Thorrn smiling to Dak,, thank you for running forum 

smiling to the scribe thank you for scribing 

 

Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:29:22 pm CDT

nods to the first whisperer demanding attention

you may, karinda *S* 

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