Conduct at and during Forums
Marius~~~ Figuring the Senior Captain has been moated, I will start this thing of ours...
The Gorean Shores Forum is open..forum rules in effect...
Marius~~~ WB Rollo...its all yours Bro
topaz{AA}p~~~ *hearing the Forum has started, simply smiles in delight at the Lady Mandi*
Rollo the Ax~~~ well, lets get down to the forum... anybody can send Me ideas for topics, but our first one is * conduct at and during forums...here or the traveling one * ??? any comment ?????
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening to Master Rollo's first topic.. ~
vika{Marius}~~~ ~vika feels that the Forum's anywhere should be held in 'order' going with the protocols of said site.....slaves should always behave accordingly. FW...should dress and act as such...and Master's...can do whatever They want...but if there is a problem...vika thinks it should be written and sent to Council...*respectfully*~
Rollo the Ax~~~ My thoughts are these.... The forums were started to try and bring folks TOGETHER, not fight and bicker... to share ideas and info, not snipe and back stab.... In other words, like in mose other things.... * If y'all can't play NICE, don't play at all...*... and if somebody does say something that * gets you going * KEEP CALM, and don't ASSUME that it was a personal attack..... Okay ????????
Kayla~~~ There has to be more freedom in a Forum there is in the normal settings... or might as well tell the slaves and FW not to come...
vika{Marius}~~~ ~vika say softly...."ok" ~
Marius~~~ One thing I want to make clear...a FORUM is for sharing thoughts and learning..its not a fucking personal gripe session..lets keep comments to the subject being discussed..
Gornt~~~ UMmmmmmmmmmm and if was a personal attack?
Kayla~~~ But also there has to mutual respect for each others ideas even when we don't agree with them...
vika{Marius}~~~ ~P/people tend to overstep bounds when given too much latitude....in vika's estimation.~
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~voice softly lifts up~..
with much respect.. each of the forums, either the Traveling one or the GS one, they both have rules set to be followed..
a girl feels that slaves, although we are permitted to speak, we should never forget to show respect..
and one feels that they shouldn't be used to turn into attack sessions..
jaz's thoughts..
Markos~~~ nodding, thinking A/all so far agree
Kayla~~~ Agreed vika but if too scared to speak then that is not a true Forum either.... fear has no place in the Forums any more than disrespect
vika{Marius}~~~ ~vika smiles at mistress jasma...agreeing with her softly spoken words....~
Kayla~~~ and that goes for FW as well jasma *ss*
desiree{Algernon}~~~ *speaking softly* this girl appreciates the fact that she is permitted to attend forums and participate....she finds it a wonderful opporutunity to learn and grow
Rollo the Ax~~~ That has always been MY understanding, Kayla... the forums are for OPEN discussion... perhaps the ONE time on Gor where slave and FW thoughts and ideas have just as much value and exceptance as Mens.... and YES, EVERYBODY should show respect for others.... So ??? DON'T be the first one to * fly off the handle * and don't fall for any little traps from those that may be looking to piss you off... let the OTHER guy/gal look like the schumck and keep your COOL !!!!!!
vika{Marius}~~~ ~*thinking* there are 'some' slaves that banter the word 'fear' about way too easily. There is nothing to fear in the atmosphere of discussion as long as a kajira is pleasing, and the banter is calm.....a discussion to better the Home....to improve it......edify before tearing down, agree to disagree....but listen and work at what is presented.~
Marius~~~ Gornt..a Gorean male does as he wishes..his sword pays the price...its said the swords of others set his limits...
If you feel personally attacked deal with it..just not at the forum...LOL..that is unless the subject is "Personal attacks"..LOL
topaz{AA}p~~~ topaz also agrees with the wonders of the Forums allowing slaves to be able to learn, and to speak, and give some input, but agrees with jaz that it should always be done with the upmost respect *smiling softly, eyes lowered
Mandi~~~ I'm sorry if I'm not up on the first topic, which appears to be "conduct at Forums", that was quite a boot for Me.
Markos~~~ *LOL* @ the Captain's words agreeing, there is a time for dialog and a time for steel
Kayla~~~ Agreed Captain as one that seems to jump first alot of times good advise for this FW ~smiling at the Senior Captain~
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening to Mistress Kayla's question to a girl.. offering respectfully~
in the instances of a Forum Mistress Kayla.. a girl feels that without a level of respect attained by any that attend leaves the idea of bringing knowledge and learning together something that is truly not happening.. she also feels that the Free is just that.. Free.. but she don't see how any can truly learn if all that's being said is coming out with a holier than thou attitude by some.. we each have our own opinions which is wonderful or how else do we share that.. and yet.. it can be respectfully done.. a girl feels..
Gornt~~~ respect has to be earned, it is not automatically conferred with being Free
Mandi~~~ ~~looking to Gornt~~ Aye, there are several levels of respect, the basic respect of A/anyone online, the respect accorded the FW, the respect accorded the Men, and that is accorded with some benefit of the doubt until it is earned.
Rollo the Ax~~~ Gornt, My idea for handling a personal attack at a forum ??? reply ONE time, say something like * Well, you have the right to YOUR idea or opinion, and I do to... if YOU have a problem with ME, lets deal with it ATFER the forum... *... sometimes all it takes is a little time for folks to cool down... and if not, the asshole will still be there later.....LOL...LOL..
Markos~~~ No Gornt, disagreeing, respect should be shown to All until the time that disrespect is shown
Marius~~~ I've found that when you show respect Gornt you earn it in return.....respect is not to be confused with fear.....respect is due everyone till they show they don't deserve it.....fear is something that one earns...
Kovak~~~ shakes my head* I've sniffed euongh shit tonight if others can't control themselves toss on the dung heep,,chuckles that where it need to be at
shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~listening, her soft eyes bouncing back and forth from the Free speaking~*~
Rollo the Ax~~~ Gornt, no truer words have ever been said.... RESPECT is a thing earned, not given or taken.... it does NOT come from rank, station, sex, or creed.... it is a thing HARD to earn, and easy to lose.....
Mandi~~~ There are some situations it is hard to respond to in a Gorean room, for instance when people start going all non-Gorean and making fun of those who take it seriously.
Markos~~~ well what can You do Mandi, ignore them and be who You are shrugs
Gornt~~~ could One repeat that Rollo for recent arrivals
Kayla~~~ It would seem to Me and this is kind of an example of when one thing is said that others take it the wrong way... sometimes it is not always about what you say but how it is recieved by the listener
vika{Marius}~~~ ~Then control should be taken back....*softly* Some 'understand' Gor...but choose to create an atmosphere of chaos.~
Mandi~~~ **looking to Markos earnestly** That is not always practical in a kill/capture zone for a Free Woman, Markos. Sometimes leaving is the wisest response, but then there is the little "ego" thing or Friends saying, "You can't let that [situation or whatever] run You out of Your home."
It depends upon the individual as to the best response.
vika{Marius}~~~ ~That is true Mistress in some instances...*um hum* effective communication is what is needed....and a lot more listening than talkin'~
Rollo the Ax~~~ Mandi.... IGNORE such ppl.... either with the button or without...
Marius~~~ Life is a matter of perception Kayla...were we all to perceive things the same way there would be no problem...but each of us has our own beliefs and prejudicies...so we perceive others differently than they may actually be..its good to first think before talking...unless you like the taste of your foot when you put it in your mouth..LOL
Kayla~~~ ~smiling at vika and listening to others~
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening to Master Marius as she scribes the notes.. nodding head in agreement~
Molly~~~ ~listens~
Rollo the Ax~~~ repeat, Gornt ?? what ?? this ??? Gornt, My idea for handling a personal attack at a forum ??? reply ONE time, say something like * Well, you have the right to YOUR idea or opinion, and I do to... if YOU have a problem with ME, lets deal with it ATFER the forum... *... sometimes all it takes is a little time for folks to cool down... and if not, the asshole will still be there later.....LOL...LOL..
Kayla~~~ Marius the truth is I should like the taste of the soles of these boots of Mine but they still taste as bad as the first time I put them in My mouth... The only thing that is better than is the taste of someones elses boots in My mouth*S*
Gornt~~~ No the respect remarks about being earned
Molly~~~ ~nods to Marius' words~
Rollo the Ax~~~ AYE, Marius..... not everybody is what they appear.... a pretty face can hide a black heart, and a strong body can house a weak coward.... and not EVERYBODY will always like everybody else.... it is LIFE .........
Rollo the Ax~~~ or Gornt, did You mean this ??? Gornt, no truer words have ever been said.... RESPECT is a thing earned, not given or taken.... it does NOT come from rank, station, sex, or creed.... it is a thing HARD to earn, and easy to lose.....
Gornt~~~ Thank You Captain
Marius~~~ "Vive le difference"..LOL
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening~
Mandi~~~ Actually, the conduct at GS Forums has generally been better than the conduct at some of the Sunday Forums. I suppose that We are more or less of the same Gorean culture here and in general would have more in common. The exceptions We have seen actually prove the rule.
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~nodding at the words spoken by Mistress Mandi~
Tavern Tattler
Rollo the Ax~~~ Well, any other topics ????
Molly~~~ ~waits for next topic~
Kovak~~~ when will the next Tattler be out ???
Gornt~~~ well?
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening to Master Kovak's question~..
a few hands back, a girl believes it was decided that the next issue wouldn't be released till around the last day of the ninth passage hand in the Ninth Month, Master Kovak (the middle of December)..
hoping that would give others enough time to submit articles for it, Master..
Kovak~~~ thanks jasma I look forward to reading it
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ You're welcome, Master Kovak.. a girl hopes You will submit an article for it.. ~smiling brightly~
Kovak~~~ chuckles,,I know lil about things well it would be the shortest article
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~softly~.. anything is appreciated, Master Kovak
No Forum Next Monday
Gornt~~~ someone offer the Captain a topic before the roof blows of
Rollo the Ax~~~ next Monday is Veteran's Day (Nov. 11).. are we going to have forum or cancel it till the week after.. (the 18th)
not a topic perse.. just a question..
Rollo the Ax~~~ If everybody wants a better chance it a 3 day weekend, I think we could cancel the forum for the Holiday... okay with everybody else ???
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~nodding~
aye, Master Rollo.. one agrees..
shirin{SholGar}~~~ fine by shirin, Master Rollo, but a girl will be here anyway that day ~smiles~
Kovak~~~ agrees
Rollo the Ax~~~ Okay, I say that next week there will be no formal forum... but if anybody wants to show up, they can have an informal one... just have somebody run it as usual and try to have FUN... Okay ???
Kayla~~~ You mean don't tear up the Tavern Captain?
Ways to show a slave she's done well
Rollo the Ax~~~ What are the best ways to give the slaves an "attagirl" without breaking character? most are doing a great job in here.
lucky{Molly}~~~ closing the door quietly..little hands swaying as she walks in fingers curling nevously..smiles at her Mistress toes curling.knees comfortably closed..beside Mistess..she listens respectfully
Molly~~~ Rollo~ how would one break character~ ~S~ could you give an example please~
Kayla~~~ Men they show it in all kind of ways... for FW it is limiting to truely show how much We can appreciate a good serve.... Sometimes I will give a scarf or ribbon... or a bell...but mostly the girls just have to know Me and know That I pay attention to the details of their serves by noticing what kind of vessel they choose the gait of their walk... their attention to detail and call attention to it..
Molly~~~ takes a deep breath and smiles~ Waits for Rollos' reply~
Rollo the Ax~~~ LOL...LOL.. Molly, Rollo IS a character, so I usually don't break it....LOL.. to let a slave know she is doing a good job or is pleasing, I usually just tell the girl... * I am happy with your work, atcions, etc. .... and like MOST, I don't do it enough.... nobody remembers every time you do something RIGHT, but screw up just ONE time, and sure as hell, EVERYBODY sees it and says something....LOL.
Rollo the Ax~~~ but Molly, the idea in ANY role play room or site is to NOT break character.... try to make EVERY action, word, or what have you IN CHARACTER !!!! or else what is the use ???
Mandi~~~ All gifts have to be approved by the girls Owners. **chuckling** but We can feed them once in a while if it isn't always chocolates.
Molly~~~ OOOOOOh okay~ I compliment all the time even the next day~ but I thought you meant over doing it~ okay I understand Thank you Rollo~
Kayla~~~ even the food has to be approved... But usually personally owned slaves and Tavern girls know what those limits are
topaz{AA}p~~~ *hearing the word CHOCOLATES, a girl sits straighter, eyes dancing, drooling!!*
Molly~~~ I guess giving gold coins instead of coppers is a good start~ smiles @ jasma lol
Lemuel~~~ ~nods to Mandi~
Yes, feeding a girl anything besides gruel is a treat they will apreciate. ~S~
Rollo the Ax~~~ after all is said and done, the kajira in MOST if not ALL Gorean sites NEVER get enough praise for their hard work and effort... like most workers in any jobfield... the good ones are taken for granted, and only the poor ones or the trouble makers get all the attention. It is NOT right, but often the way things go..... So, from at least ME, Rollo, * WELL DONE, GS kajira... I am proud to be part owner of so many lovely and well trained kajira... *
topaz{AA}p~~~ *eyes widen, and a girl's heart stops, looking to Mistress Molly, squeeks*
gold coins??
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~whispering softly~.. the payment was way too much.. but it did get deposited in the coin box.. money isn't a slaves' to have.. nothing is.. she's only allowed what her Owner has allowed..
Kayla~~~ Giving gold for a serve shows usually that the person knows nothing of the value of Gorean money... and might not have much Gorean knowledge... I learned that lesson Myself the hardway away from home and was very embarrassed... but one gold can buy many slaves so to use it for a serve is kinda nuts...
topaz{AA}p~~~ *hearing jasma speak of a slave owning nothing by that which her Master allows, nods, knowing even a simple ribbon given to topaz by Mistress Mandi has to be approved...grins*
Rollo the Ax~~~ Molly, a gold coin would be a VERY rare thing in a paga tavern.... Gorean money is mostly copper and some silver... too much gold * floating around * makes the role play look silly... or maybe said better, NON-gorean... okay ????
Molly~~~ Well I feel a job well done is worth the gold~ its a reward~ being great~ ~SS~ and thats all I'll say about that. waits for next topic~
Molly~~~ Rollo I didn't know that but I will make note of it thank you Sir
Markos~~~ being distracted, I always tell a slave if she is pleasing, sometimes give candies for excellent serves and most are good, but I won't get on her for typos or mispellings
Gornt~~~ Molly I owe One an apology
You have behaved well
overtipping is not a mortal sin, but it does devalue the currency
Markos~~~ but Gornt, so does the value of slaves for 100 gold *LOL*
shirin{SholGar}~~~ Tarn Disk, Gold...worth 10 silver tarsks, also comes in double weight. With the exception of the double tarn, a gold tarn disk is the highest value coin on Gor
Molly~~~ Smiles~ thank you
Kayla~~~ What makes one slave worth a handful of coppers and another worth many gold?.... the person paying the price... Both in the books and online... it is a buyers market...
shirin{SholGar}~~~ sorry, shirin was hunting a currency chart, but can't seem to find it at the moment....
Gornt~~~ I seem to remember it being worth a $56,000 USD
shirin{SholGar}~~~ that might be about right Master Gornt, as an average gorean can live for a year on one gold coin
Lemuel~~~ ~looking to the water-clock~
Well, since it's nearly time to end the forum, should we call it to a close?
~looking about~
Kayla~~~ ~smiling at Lemuel~ I second it Advisor... So 2 weeks next Forum....
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening as she scrawls legibly on the notes.. making sure she's not missed anything~
Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at the comments~
Alright then, I hereby call this forum to a close. Let the stampede begin! ~chuckles~
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~finishing the scrolls.. looking to her Owner.. eyes of passion flicker in the lighting as the forum comes to an end~