CHANGE IN FORUM DAYS?
Xertog 19:09:59 pm CST
Rollo can't be here today. His RT schedule is such that he won't be able to be here for the forums on Sundays in the near future.
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 19:10:45 pm CST
That is a pity. I know we all miss Him when He can't attend.
Xertog 19:13:43 pm CST
The Council once changed the day the forum was held when this happened once before and it is under consideration again. It may be changed to Mondays.
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 19:15:02 pm CST
Mondays would be okay for Me, and I know they would probably be better for Sandman. He always has family obligations on most Sundays.
Laroona 19:15:33 pm CST
greetings girls
Xertog Mondays are no good for me until I am in vacation time
so I will be unable to attend
Xertog 19:15:53 pm CST
The change would be good for some and bad for others.
mary{GS} 19:16:38 pm CST
should take a poll as to what days are good for the majority
Laroona 19:17:09 pm CST
as usual no matter what day/night forums are held
no time will suit all
Laroona 19:17:33 pm CST
Xertog has the forum commenced?
Xertog 19:18:37 pm CST
So your all stuck with me for now. lol.. with that lets start the forum. The regular rules as always apply. Please keep greetings and rp to whispers.
Send me your topic suggestions via whispers
Xertog 19:19:25 pm CST
We could put a poll up on the message board.
mary{GS} 19:19:44 pm CST
*smiles softly and nods to Slave Master*
Laroona 19:20:38 pm CST
Xertog that would be a good ideas as then all can say what suits and give Council a direction
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 19:20:39 pm CST
*nodding to the Captain* A poll would be good. That way it would give the Council the feedback that ya'll need to have before making any changes.
jessenia{Bh} 19:22:03 pm CST
there is some kind of voting thing they've used at poolside on the boards for things like this...
beats me as to what it's called though.. 'L'
Xertog 19:23:43 pm CST
Our message board is set up so that any post may also contain a poll to vote on something.
SLAVES IGNORING FREE TO SERVE
Xertog 19:27:28 pm CST
The first I was sent was this:
"slaves ignoring FW in the Piazza....that seems to be an issue"
Please note the that did not come from either of the FW here today.
Laroona 19:29:57 pm CST
LOL the age old story again
Friday night was a prime example
4 GS slaves and 2 FM in tavern... 2 GS slaves doing nothing
the numbers fluctuated but that was the average all the time
while I sat for almost a ahn without so much as a slave entering
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 19:31:31 pm CST
I haven't had those issues because I am not here often at all......but I know that this has been a problem in the past......
Laroona 19:32:10 pm CST
some may say it is a Man’s world BUT from the books
“For example, there is no higher person, nor one more respected, than the Gorean free woman." [Hunters of Gor p311]
jessenia{Bh} 19:32:45 pm CST
jesse believes part of the problem would be the fact that most of the time it's white silks that just havent grasped the concept of keeping eyes open for others in other rooms.....
Mistress of bratlings 19:33:22 pm CST
slips in and takes a seat...Tal and greetings
jessenia{Bh} 19:33:55 pm CST
and sometimes jesse has thought about dropping a gentle reminder in a whisper.. but figured she'd get labeled a busy body.. *L*
Laroona 19:35:30 pm CST
jessenia that is not correct
I understand some were even whispered that a FW was in the Piazza
and for goodness sake there is the drop down list
A FW cannot go to the tavern door and demand a slave to serve in the Piazza!
yet a FM can come to the Piazza and demand a slave to serve in the Tavern!
vina{GS} 19:35:37 pm CST
this one has whispered a white silk, asking the girl to serve, this girl being already in service, the girl was sitting in the tavern, posting nothing, she waited until Mistress Laroona had left the Piazza before whispering this girl back...saying the Mistress had left
vina{GS} 19:36:57 pm CST
this girl has noticed several white silks just coming in the tavern and not offering to serve, but perhaps that is another issue
Mistress of bratlings 19:37:24 pm CST
looks to the door...two fingers held tightly together pointing to a place at My feet
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:37:44 pm CST
although the Tavern could appear more exciting,
more stimulating for slaves, even though there may be
only 2 FM there, slaves love to watch other slaves
they learn from the activity in the Tavern
especially during the evening hours when there ARE FM around
truly they have no choice, its a girls duty to serve her home equally
and that is all Free
Maccabeus~Wandering Jew of Gor 19:37:51 pm CST
...feeling a bit under the weather this evening, he slips in quietly, nods to A/all, and takes a seat towards the back...
Laroona 19:38:33 pm CST
I do not care who is being served as long as free are being served, but if the men are all being served in the tavern, by at least one slave and only one slave at a time and the ratio is a greater ratio of slaves than FM! If a slave is not serving, they must remember there are other people who enter GS besides Free Men and slaves. Yes even FW, some who are new. Appears to me some slaves are either blind, deaf or deliberately denying they are there in GS to serve all no matter the gender of the Free.
Normally if I am aware there is a FM in the Tavern I will send slaves in to serve FM and go without myself.... should I do that?
I have messaged slaves even when there has been no FM in the tavern and ignored
so what is wrong here?
Is it laziness of slaves behalf or FM do not give a flying tarsks breath if a FW is served or not!!!!
vina{GS} 19:38:48 pm CST
perhaps, just a suggestion, not telling Masters what to think or do...but perhaps One could invite the Mistress to the Tavern under His protection?
Kristian.. speak softly, but carry a big stick 19:39:50 pm CST
Tal & greetings..
Bhoamar 19:40:50 pm CST
ask the slaves that do not respond. I have always sent slaves out to the piazza. *shruggs* regardless
Laroona 19:40:51 pm CST
please no greeting and action posts...
sighs
vina{GS} 19:41:08 pm CST
this girl doesn't think it's just the Masters, she thinks its slaves too, she for one will admit that she didn't give a thought to a Mistress in the Piazza until it was brought to her attention... slaves mostly have the mindset of pleasing Men...this one does anyway, but she is learning...
Xertog 19:41:17 pm CST
With multiple rooms as GS has been set up for the past few years this will be an on going issue. GS slaves need to know to watch the whos/where and that goes for when they are in GI too. This can be addressed in class and in the slave news letter and if some girls continue to have a problem with it it will be addressed with them.
Maccabeus~Wandering Jew of Gor 19:41:35 pm CST
...I sit back, sipping a paga. Rumors about the excellence of the tavern's girls are not, I see, unfounded. And that red-haired FW...
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 19:41:52 pm CST
I know that Sandman has directed unoccupied slaves in the tavern to attend to a FW in the Piazza.......though I do not know for a fact that other FM would bother to do that. I would hope so though. *shrugging* I personally do not want to be served by a slave who does not wish to serve FW. I would rather be left alone in that case.
Laroona 19:41:55 pm CST
LOL Bhoamar then they must have ignored you on Friday
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:42:32 pm CST
aye Master, aurora will pass that along to the fg
mary{GS} 19:44:09 pm CST
this girl always makes sure she is available to Free Women, AND FM...
Laroona 19:44:52 pm CST
I know some FM do like Sandman
and others have in the past just keep slaves in a serve to spite the FW
and like Deirdre I do not care for a slave who does not want to serve a FW..
vina{GS} 19:45:40 pm CST
it is not that slaves do not wish to serve a FW this girl thinks, but like her, pointing to herself, she just didn't think...her mind was and is on pleasing Men
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:46:35 pm CST
reading Mistress Dierdre's post and reposting part of it
* I personally do not want to be served by a slave who does not wish to serve FW. I would rather be left alone in that case*
so if a newer slave gets online once or twice a week
where do You think she wants to be? at the feet of a Master or a FW
and where does it no longer become her choice?
~just throwing that out there~
Laroona 19:46:52 pm CST
Xertog why should Free no matter what status have to chase down slaves to serve?
there are many slaves in GS collars now... so why is this occurring...
heck even some FM are being ignored
Mistress of bratlings 19:47:18 pm CST
slaves of a home who do not wish to serve the free of the home should not be slave...not only that but they dont show honor and dedication to the collars they bare
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 19:47:37 pm CST
*nodding to aurora* That's really a good point.
vina{GS} 19:48:27 pm CST
this girl thinks it is a learning process
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:48:32 pm CST
for aurora -there is no choice
she serves her Master's home period.
Laroona 19:49:09 pm CST
to answer a point earlier NO a FW cannot enter the Tavern
under the protection of a FM....
that is set in stone LOL
Bhoamar 19:49:39 pm CST
maybe. I tell them that an fw is in the piazza. past that I do not know. It is not My problem but the Owners of the slaves.
Ulrich 19:49:53 pm CST
slaves are here to serve the Free. period.
They have no choice in whom they serve. They server whoever needs service. Period.
vina{GS} 19:50:03 pm CST
sits back getting confused
mary{GS} 19:50:09 pm CST
*nodding to aurora* agreed..mary serves with all her heart ALL her Masters and Mistresses of GS
{HJ}Herrin's kitty{pbLB} 19:51:02 pm CST
that is as it should be mary
Ulrich 19:51:36 pm CST
vina what's confusing you girl?
Laroona 19:51:45 pm CST
LOL bet if a FM entered the Piazza to sit with the FM they would flock in LOL
Laroona 19:52:32 pm CST
should be sit with the FW
vina{GS} 19:52:35 pm CST
yes that is true Mistress... so slaves are not suppose to put Masters above a Mistress? this girl is getting confused
Xertog 19:52:43 pm CST
I can't answer your question Laroona because it would require me to know is going on in the heads of the girls. lol
It will be addressed in classes and in the news letter. I will do what I can to address it when I see it.
mary{GS} 19:52:45 pm CST
Mistress, whenever this girl sees You in the Piazza, she always comes to You to see if You wish anything *smiles to Mistress Laroona*
Bhoamar 19:53:11 pm CST
if you are talking rt you are true, but being trully honest there are many ways that slaves can and do get about serving those they do not wish to. Unless the slave trully wishes to be slave and not just play slave then there is nothing any can do.
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:53:55 pm CST
some slaves do not realize
that truly they learn so much in the piazza
there is often times much more Gorean talk
talk of the books, roleplay
questions, testing of girls
much more so than serving of drinks in the Tavern
Laroona 19:55:23 pm CST
mary yes and then have your mouth hang open LOl
mary{GS} 19:56:29 pm CST
*blushes hearing Mistress and bows her head low*
HJ}Herrin's kitty{pbLB} 19:56:59 pm CST
if a slave truely wants to be a slave with all her heart then she should serve without qeostion
vina{GS} 19:57:14 pm CST
agrees
Laroona 19:57:34 pm CST
I have said it often I always send slaves to tavern ...
and even if in the Piazza have them offer to serve the FM first if he enters after me.
...
vina{GS} 19:58:01 pm CST
so...say a slave walks in GS and there is a Master in the Tavern and a Mistress in the Piazza....where should she go first?
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 19:58:40 pm CST
vina.....she should always go to the Master first. No question.
Jessica 19:58:40 pm CST
vina...the Master always
vina{GS} 19:58:41 pm CST
and no other slaves about
mary{GS} 19:59:13 pm CST
the Master first, then the Mistress
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 19:59:20 pm CST
But if there is already a slave tending to the Master....and she sees this after she goes to Him first.....then she should go to the Mistress.
vina{GS} 19:59:39 pm CST
alright, agreed, however, lets say she serves the Master and He wishes to engage in conversation... or sex... will the Mistress feel ignored?
Laroona 19:59:51 pm CST
vina the Tavern as he is a Patron
maybe if unknown he could be a newbie and a slave entering would make him feel welcome
HJ}Herrin's kitty{pbLB} 19:59:59 pm CST
mayhaps it is engrained in us slaves that we make the Masters of GS happy then if there is any around then we take care of the Mistress's
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 20:00:43 pm CST
This Mistress would not feel ignored. The situation would speak for itself, in My opinion. *nodding to vina*
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:00:59 pm CST
vina, You serve the Master
until He releases you...
jessenia{Bh} 20:01:18 pm CST
but before the girl leaves.. even though another is serving Him... she should still ask if He needs her service should she not?
vina{GS} 20:01:19 pm CST
agreed
mary{GS} 20:01:25 pm CST
*agrees with Mistress Deirdre*
{HJ}Herrin's kitty{pbLB} 20:01:59 pm CST
that is very true
Laroona 20:02:11 pm CST
vina I as a FW would understand that situation
what I do not understand is when there are slaves sitting idle and Free are being ignored!
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:02:26 pm CST
jesse, aurora would beg permission to go serve the other Free
first, seeing that He is being served
vina{GS} 20:02:52 pm CST
same here Mistress... this girl was peeved when she was ignored by a whitesilk to go and serve in the piazza...
alana{GS} 20:04:07 pm CST
~kneels quiet and listens~
jessenia{Bh} 20:04:14 pm CST
okay.. jesse can see that... .but we're always told to ask even if One is being served...
so.. on the off chance we come across someone having a bad day.. and we ask to go serve a FW... instead of asking Him if He needed another slave... what happens if we get our ass hitched to the post for not asking first?
vina{GS} 20:04:46 pm CST
nods agreeing with jess
Laroona 20:05:22 pm CST
then you are posted jessenia LOl
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:06:06 pm CST
aurora would ask if He were the only Free in GS
but Another waits to be served
it is His perogative to not allow her to go
mary{GS} 20:06:08 pm CST
as slaves we are at the whim of the Free
alana{GS} 20:06:37 pm CST
so in other words if the Free is having a bad day and we get in trouble because of that for not asking we are just in trouble?
Bhoamar 20:06:39 pm CST
well girl if ya get your ass hitched to the post then it is up to the slaves Owner to determine if the Free is trully correct, in the Masters opinion or if they are just being a bitch or a pain. if the Master thinks the hitching was incorrect it is then up to the Master to speak with the Free to straighten it out
{HJ}Herrin's kitty{pbLB} 20:06:57 pm CST
true
Laroona 20:07:02 pm CST
so would the same apply to a FW and how peeved would a FM be if a FW kept a slave from serving?
jessenia{Bh} 20:07:21 pm CST
jesse would never ask that as it would likely end her smart ass mouth slapped.... or her teeth fed to her
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 20:08:09 pm CST
*chuckling at jesse*
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:08:47 pm CST
aurora would simply say
if the girl is not needed Master
or if You do not require anything of her
may she please seek permission to go serve
Mistress
mary{GS} 20:09:17 pm CST
*innocently whistles at jesse's comment*
Laroona 20:09:21 pm CST
LOL well any Free can put a girl in a cage or the post
punishment is up to the Owners...
{HJ}Herrin's kitty{pbLB} 20:10:10 pm CST
sometimes if the FM is in a bad mood that is still liable to get the slave into trouble
jessenia{Bh} 20:10:35 pm CST
aye.. the wording is there but you're still asking Him first if He needs the service....
so.. choose the wording wisely
alana{GS} 20:10:39 pm CST
may she ask a question
{HJ}Herrin's kitty{pbLB} 20:11:13 pm CST
aye very true
Ulrich 20:11:16 pm CST
Although it can depend on the mood or temperament of the Free at the moment, I've known most to be reasonable enough that if they have a slave serving and another slave is in the room, they will release the other to go serve another Free even if it is a FW in the Piazza.
It could depend a lot on the girl's approach. aurora just gave an example that 99.9% of the time will get her released to go serve the FW.
Laroona 20:11:43 pm CST
bad moods should be left at the door
not take it out on salves just because they have a capped name
geeshhhhhhhhh
Ulrich 20:12:10 pm CST
alana it's forum. you may ask
alana{GS} 20:12:36 pm CST
what is this post everyone is talking about?
{HJ}Herrin's kitty{pbLB} 20:12:49 pm CST
not all see it like that Mistress
Bhoamar 20:13:47 pm CST
ultinmately it comes down to the whim of the FM.
Personally I use none other than Mine except for the occasional paga and never ever deny a girl to go else where to serve any other.
If a slave decides to enter the tavern when it is seen that there is a slave in the tavern with an FM and none with a FW then it is the slaves decision.
jessenia{Bh} 20:14:02 pm CST
well now there is where jesse is different than most... she believes as a slave she is there to serve bad moods or not... it's best to try stay out of trouble.. but as a slave it doesnt matter if He wants to nit pick at something and post her because He's had a bad day...
it falls into the category of a slave always having the last word in any such situation.. "yes Master"
Laroona 20:14:04 pm CST
kitty IMO those have problems with anger management
gor is not a place for cruelty ...
mary{GS} 20:14:14 pm CST
post or whipping post...a pole that a slave is tied to and whipped..or perhaps to dance around
Ulrich 20:15:14 pm CST
alana they are referring to the whipping post in the Tavern
jessenia{Bh} 20:15:44 pm CST
alana.. it's in the sand pit in the Tavern and what girls are tied to in order to be whipped..
there's mention of it in the manual and website....
alana{GS} 20:15:48 pm CST
oh she sees, she has never heard of the post before, but then again she has never been whipped or danced before either
Laroona 20:15:51 pm CST
Bhoamar I disagree it is not the slave to decide
they should check all rooms first...
there is the where is they all use
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:16:19 pm CST
a slave serving her GS home
or her Master's home...has no choice
Bhoamar 20:17:04 pm CST
*LOL* I have yet to see cruelty in the tavern Laroona. I have seen and been in some really bad moods but never seen cruelty. Just FM being Bastards
Xertog 20:17:16 pm CST
alana from the GS web pages
In the center of the tavern, recessed a foot or so into the floor, is a large sand pit in the shape of a figure "8". The half of the "8" nearest the fire pit in the rear wall contains a tall wooden whipping post. The other half of the "8" nearest the entrance to the tavern is empty, so that men may fight in the pit without obstructions, or slaves may dance without the support of the post. The sand is cream coloured, flecked with tiny red and black chips of stone. The second floor, accessible only by passing through the Captains' tables, is not open to general patrons, but contains living quarters for the Captains and guest quarters for certain preferred or honoured guests. It is also rumoured to have a large vault as well, where the loot of pirates and raiders may be stored, but none have provided confirmation of such rumours. The stairwell continues to the roof of the building which provides a partially obstructed view of Thassa in the distance, which has in the past been used to give wounded combatants in the sand pit the Death of Blood and the Sea.
angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/gsinfo/descrip.html
jessenia{Bh} 20:17:36 pm CST
it may not be for them too decide on an honor to their collar basis...
but ultimately everyone operates their own keyboard....
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 20:17:51 pm CST
*chuckling at Bhoamar's comment
vina{GS} 20:17:58 pm CST
vina is struggling here... is it a bad thing to want to serve Men before Women?
Xertog 20:17:59 pm CST
alana you should have been whipped when you were collared.
Laroona 20:18:42 pm CST
OK going to toss this out
what if the ratio is such that there is 2 slaves and 1 FM in the tavern and another Free in the Tavern.. and the FM is new and does not know how to release a slave?
should the slave advise him it is normal to release girls to serve others?
mary{GS} 20:18:50 pm CST
*looks to Slave Master hearing Him*
jessenia{Bh} 20:19:00 pm CST
which means in other words.. if she goes elsewhere it's a conscious decision to do so and perhaps she should be introduced to said post..
not that jesse is telling any One what to do though
alana{GS} 20:19:05 pm CST
Thank You Master Xertog
vina{GS} 20:19:18 pm CST
getting a headache
Ulrich 20:19:45 pm CST
vina you can want all you want.
But you have to remember, you are slave so what you want is of no consequence. It's what the Free wants that matters.
mary{GS} 20:19:48 pm CST
*hands vina some advil, hehe*
PUNISHMENTS AND WHIPPING AT COLLARING
alana{GS} 20:19:57 pm CST
why should she have been whipped
~is getting worried now~
mary{GS} 20:20:27 pm CST
it's customary, alana..
vina{GS} 20:20:28 pm CST
yes Master
zoya{GS}t 20:20:33 pm CST
~*~slips out as rt calls~*~
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:20:47 pm CST
of course not vina
it is a slut's natural instinct to want to serve a sexy Master in all possible ways
but...her duty is to be beautiful, obedient and exquisite in all she does in serving her HOME ...and that means serving all Free
Laroona 20:20:59 pm CST
oops should be one FM being served
mary{GS} 20:21:07 pm CST
it's sort of like hazing, hehe
alana{GS} 20:21:21 pm CST
customary? this girl is now very confused
jessenia{Bh} 20:21:26 pm CST
some do it to make a slave realize her place and temper her attitude straight out the bag...
vina{GS} 20:21:29 pm CST
she needs to be reminded of that from time to time...
Xertog 20:22:19 pm CST
All GS girls feel the whip after they are collared so they know what they will get if they don't please their owners.
vina{GS} 20:22:23 pm CST
smiles to aurora...yes that she can understand...and she is learning to do
vina{GS} 20:22:35 pm CST
this one didn't
alana{GS} 20:22:37 pm CST
but if the girl submits on her own free will why whip for the reason to show her her place?
Ulrich 20:22:43 pm CST
alana the purpose of the whip at the collaring is to teach the girl to fear the whip
mary{GS} 20:22:57 pm CST
basically it is to show the slave that she is completely owned, and that the Master will correct the slave if ever needed...
jessenia{Bh} 20:22:58 pm CST
it's something that is hardly done anymore
alana{GS} 20:23:12 pm CST
well Master does that mean this girl will be whipped now?
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 20:23:29 pm CST
alana.....It is simply part of the ritual of the collaring.
alana{GS} 20:24:24 pm CST
this girl is already scared of the whip, and now very very confused
~falls silent and just listens
alana{GS} 20:25:04 pm CST
so if this girl had not been away she would have been whipped and branded?
Bhoamar 20:25:09 pm CST
In most cases I have found that just showing and explaining what can happen if I am displeased is enough to make a girl understand
vina{GS} 20:26:18 pm CST
agrees with Master Bhoamar...an online whip will do nothing for this girl, but give her a tone or a punishment that she can use to correct herself... does wonders...
Ulrich 20:26:37 pm CST
Aye Bhoamar That does work quite well in some cases.
Maccabeus~Wandering Jew of Gor 20:27:01 pm CST
..He leaves as quietly as he came, silently offer a prayer to the PK's for the well-being of A/all here and wishing A/all a good week to come.
Laroona 20:27:10 pm CST
when I collar I send slaves to seek out the SlaveMaster as FW do not whip
well I do not.... so that often leaves slaves not whipped at a collaring...
Bhoamar 20:27:53 pm CST
*nods* in some cases yes Ulrich.
in others You could beat enm til You are tired and make no progress which comes back to the heart and fire of the slave
alana{GS} 20:28:35 pm CST
so if a Master had collared her then she would have been whipped?
is that correct or is she confusing it more?
Laroona 20:29:28 pm CST
I have seen some very cruel things in GS
but pleased that got stamped out fast....
vina{GS} 20:29:37 pm CST
not necessarily, this girl didn't feel the whip when she was collared by a Master
Xertog 20:29:50 pm CST
It is up to the individual owner. I have owned 5 slaves and didn't whip any of them after I collared them. It is something GS has traditional done and it was often done in the books.
Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 20:29:57 pm CST
*smiling at the different comments*
I guess it is sort of like what kind of punishment is appropriate for one's own children. You have to know your children well enough to know what works for that particular child. What will make the most impact.........words......or actions.
Bhoamar 20:30:15 pm CST
that must have been some time ago Laroona. I have not
Ulrich 20:30:23 pm CST
alana It would depend on who did the collaring, and when, and how much time they had at the moment.
The slave Master just said, you have a whipping and a branding coming, so ... it's coming.
alana{GS} 20:30:46 pm CST
so sometimes yes and sometimes no? but why not just one set thing all the time?
Bhoamar 20:31:03 pm CST
aye Dierdre
mary{GS} 20:31:31 pm CST
it is the individual whim of the Master...just like different laws in different states in the USA
alana{GS} 20:31:47 pm CST
ah okies she thinks she gets it now
Xertog 20:32:28 pm CST
The whipping of GS slaves is done by the Captains and we are not always the ones that do the collarings.
jessenia{Bh} 20:32:28 pm CST
perhaps because the Free do as they wish?
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:32:31 pm CST
it was not unusual for a new slave in the books to be treated harshly
vina{GS} 20:33:02 pm CST
sits up straight
alana{GS} 20:33:04 pm CST
many things of gor confuse her, she is sorry for the trouble
mary{GS} 20:33:26 pm CST
the central government regulates the laws of the Union, but individual states can make amendments to different laws and such
Laroona 20:33:28 pm CST
a whipping is done so slaves fear it if they transgress
galah{RA} 20:34:10 pm CST
there are many worse ways to punish a slave besides the whip...**nodding in agreement with Mistress Deirdre** like most kids would rather say they would rather be spanked than to be grounded cause then its done and over with instead of dragging out over a time
alana{GS} 20:34:28 pm CST
to be honest, if she had been whipped at her collaring and she did not know then what she knows now, she would have thought she had done something displeasing
mary{GS} 20:35:02 pm CST
*agrees with Mistress Deirdre and galah*
Laroona 20:35:57 pm CST
far worse punishments that a whipping
and alana the Captain would have explained why
Ulrich 20:36:06 pm CST
alana there is much to learn. you'll get there *s*
It can be overwhelming at first.
alana{GS} 20:37:39 pm CST
either way, she knows she fears the whip not because it is supposed to hurt, given it couldn't for online, but because she knows she had done something very displeasing, i don't know that is just how this girl sees it
galah{RA} 20:37:45 pm CST
and to a slave that thinks she deserves to be punished, the worst punishment is to not be punished...that can tear her apart, if that makes sense?
mary{GS} 20:38:32 pm CST
anticipation of a punishment tears apart this girl, hehe
alana{GS} 20:38:45 pm CST
this girl just wishes that she had been taught more before, she feels like her time in gor before was a waste coming here and seeing what simple things all know that she does not makes her feel...left behind or like the odd one out
Ulrich 20:38:56 pm CST
alana depending on a girls frame of mind, an online whipping can have lasting effects.
vina{GS} 20:39:28 pm CST
it makes perfect sense galah...
alana{GS} 20:39:30 pm CST
this girl too, has been brought to tears once and it wasn't even a whipping
Xertog 20:40:40 pm CST
That makes sense to me galah.
galah{RA} 20:41:06 pm CST
a true slave will shed rt tears during a whipping, so you can't say it can't hurt you, cause it can...and in a big way
Laroona 20:41:16 pm CST
why the 2 hand O collar works well
alana{GS} 20:41:28 pm CST
so this girl will be whipped but not because she was displeasing and she will be branded, she guesses she can wrap her mind around that, but to be honest it scares her some
mary{GS} 20:41:54 pm CST
very true galah..very true..and this girl has cried during an online whipping too many times to count..
vina{GS} 20:42:24 pm CST
this girl has never been whipped so she doesn't know, but she sure as hell knows when a Master is displeased and has been brought to tears
alana{GS} 20:42:26 pm CST
she meant physically, mentally, it would eat this girl alive galah
galah{RA} 20:43:20 pm CST
personally...IF i knew i had done something wrong, i would rather BEG for punishment than to just snicker and think i had gotten away with it....only an opinion though as i have known many that snicker over misdeeds
mary{GS} 20:43:48 pm CST
feeling a Free's displeasure, mentally, emotionally, or physically, is very very powerful
Laroona 20:43:56 pm CST
the hardest punishment is when a slave is ignored....
jessenia{Bh} 20:44:47 pm CST
or when a girl isnt allowed to serve the One that owns her
vina{GS} 20:45:04 pm CST
can't be ignored, it would hurt her emotionally... why would a Free wish to hurt a slave in that manner?
mary{GS} 20:45:27 pm CST
vina...to impress upon her that HE owns her and can do as He wishes
alana{GS} 20:45:33 pm CST
this girl got away once at not being punished, she didn't snicker at it but she wondered and wondered for days straight before the Master told her that making her think about why she had not been punished when she knew she should have was punishment in itself, and the she got extra chores on top of that
galah{RA} 20:46:04 pm CST
alana....i think the whipping when collared was done to make a slave fear the whip, but even though one might already feel the fear, i think to have it done also helps to bind the chain, for all your sisters that share in that time with you, feel for you
Bhoamar 20:46:06 pm CST
vina. negative attention, ie whippings, is attention. Ignoring is lack of any attention and that is the most powerful thing
jessenia{Bh} 20:46:21 pm CST
to make her reflect back on what caused it vina.. to have her revisit her words or actions.
Laroona 20:46:54 pm CST
vina to impress upon her she is a mere beast and anything can be done to punish
~xXx~Warrior~of~Port~Kar~ 20:46:57 pm CST
vina that is my fav punishment with my girls. They like to be whipped, so I to come up with something I know they would hate and ignoring them for a while works great.
vina{GS} 20:47:06 pm CST
i don't like it
aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:47:30 pm CST
a girl is made to kiss the whip alana
to respect it
and to fear it
to know her place and to remember what the whip feels like
mary{GS} 20:47:42 pm CST
that is why it's punishment..punishments arent meant to be pleasing to the slave
jessenia{Bh} 20:47:49 pm CST
you'll like it even less if it ever happens
~xXx~Warrior~of~Port~Kar~ 20:48:12 pm CST
vina well then I am sure you would behave so you would not be ignored. ~S~
vina{GS} 20:48:21 pm CST
nods
galah{RA} 20:48:24 pm CST
ignoring is one of the worst punishments for sure, but second to that, in my case, would be told to shut up and not be allowed to speak heheheeeeeee one could just blow up holding it all back hehehehehe
mary{GS} 20:48:40 pm CST
punishment is meant to make the slave learn, and deter any bad behavior thereafter
vina{GS} 20:49:37 pm CST
if a Master were to ignore His slave, how does He know the state of mind she in then?
vina{GS} 20:49:56 pm CST
how does He check up on her?
Kringe 20:50:09 pm CST
chuckles ...hearing galah and thinks it would be so
Laroona 20:50:14 pm CST
heeee galah a gag may work LOL
xXx~Warrior~of~Port~Kar~ 20:50:26 pm CST
galah not hearing you say a word would be fun to watch. ~LOL~ I am sure you would find some other way to do it ~LOL~
jessenia{Bh} 20:50:28 pm CST
if He truely knows His slave... He knows..
*looking up to her Master*
alana{GS} 20:50:54 pm CST
being put in a room by herself is what gets to this girl the most, something about it just drive her insane, for once is she is alone, being ignored by all not just one or a few, and she has nothing to do but think and most times it is on what she has done to be there
vina{GS} 20:50:58 pm CST
smiles to jess...
Laroona 20:51:10 pm CST
vina a true Master or Free would know
mary{GS} 20:51:19 pm CST
*looks to Mistress Laroona, hoping She wont get any ideas with mary, heheheh*
xXx~Warrior~of~Port~Kar~ 20:51:48 pm CST
Well vina I do it only for a short time and it seems to work great. My slaves behave ~LOL~
Bhoamar 20:52:02 pm CST
the Master has to know His slave to know that it is or would be effective. *stroking My girl's hair slowly
mary{GS} 20:52:28 pm CST
that's reflection, alana..that is why it is punishment..
vina{GS} 20:52:46 pm CST
yes Master Blade, this girl can see how it would work she supposes...she just doesn't like it...
Laroona 20:52:52 pm CST
mary went close last night and was saved by the collar so to speak LOl
mary{GS} 20:53:38 pm CST
*innocent look to Mistress Laroona..giving Her that "who me?" expression*
galah{RA} 20:53:48 pm CST
**sparkling dark eyes full or mirth at the comments of her quietness only branishes a bright smile and she doesn't say a word**
vina{GS} 20:53:52 pm CST
or like galah said and being told to shut up...not quite sure how to do that one
Laroona 20:54:16 pm CST
vina that is why you would not like it
it gives you time to reflect
like it or not it is a punishment
xXx~Warrior~of~Port~Kar~ 20:55:13 pm CST
vina what girl does, but if they had it happen once to them. Then they really work hard to not have it happen a second time. ~S~
Laroona 20:55:31 pm CST
excellent example galah *S*
alana{GS} 20:55:53 pm CST
okies she has another question, she hasn't been here at the start of a Forum before and was just wondering is there a period of time before Forum actually starts that the we ask the Free who are here if they wished to be served or do we not ask at all?
vina{GS} 20:56:00 pm CST
smiles to Master Blade....this girl hopes to never to find out....
galah{RA} 20:56:14 pm CST
ooooooooohh sooooooooo very true Master Blade
Laroona 20:56:26 pm CST
in the Forum room there are no serves
jessenia{Bh} 20:56:42 pm CST
that is very true Master Blade....
jesse had One who owned her once walk out on her in the Tavern when she was forgetful of her place.... it killed her
alana{GS} 20:57:39 pm CST
Thank You Mistress
Laroona 20:57:59 pm CST
punishments are a training tool as opposed to a tool to harm
mary{GS} 20:59:36 pm CST
yes, very true Master Blade *nodding in agreement, smiling*
Kringe 20:59:43 pm CST
Does any remember tori and the ta wine bottle ...grins
galah{RA} 21:00:05 pm CST
hhmmmmmm **her mind ticking over** i have a question though, if slaves are to fear the whip, then why is it a tantalizing thing for a slaver to use a whip to caress a girl for a response, and that response he seeks is not for fear
jessenia{Bh} 21:00:15 pm CST
vaguely Master Kringe
Laroona 21:00:29 pm CST
Kringe she had to carry it around with her correct?
xXx~Warrior~of~Port~Kar~ 21:00:35 pm CST
I remeber tori, but not the wine bottle ~LOL~
Ulrich 21:00:47 pm CST
Exactly Laroona
vina{GS} 21:00:49 pm CST
remembers being told about the ta wine bottle...
mary{GS} 21:01:05 pm CST
carried it around? *eyes widened*
Kringe 21:01:52 pm CST
she had stolen a bottle from the Tavern with some others and after
I had her for two hands carry and mention the bottle in every post she made
Xertog 21:02:04 pm CST
I recall I walked into the tavern and found her drinking it.
mary{GS} 21:02:18 pm CST
ohhhhh...goodness...
vina{GS} 21:02:28 pm CST
omg, i was going to get into the paga with a sister a few days ago! holy crap... good thing i didn't
mary{GS} 21:03:10 pm CST
lol vina..dare i ask who?
galah{RA} 21:03:26 pm CST
that would be considered stealing from your Masters vina....not even allowed a piece of rotten fruit either heheheheheee
vina{GS} 21:03:58 pm CST
yes, it would be stealing, didn't think of it like that...
alana{GS} 21:04:02 pm CST
~hearing that brings up another question~
so slaves are not to eat or drink anything unless a Free says it is ok, beside slave gruel?
galah{RA} 21:04:39 pm CST
and the girl learned well from that lesson Master Kringe?
and no stealing slave wine either heheheheee **bursting into laughter*
Ulrich 21:04:53 pm CST
That is right alana.
slaves are nothing more than animals
mary{GS} 21:05:22 pm CST
lol gal!
Laroona 21:05:23 pm CST
LOL at galah mentioning slave wine
heeeeee that was too funny
Kringe 21:05:36 pm CST
aye thats right Xertog ...You had her come and fess up to Me that in its self was bad for her
galah{RA} 21:06:06 pm CST
thats right alana, and technically, even slave gruel was limited to some depending on the Masters like of how he preferred his girls shape to be...so even an endless supply of slave gruel is not a given
xXx~Warrior~of~Port~Kar~ 21:06:07 pm CST
Good thing vina I would not be kissing you after drinking that nasty stuff ~LOL~
Kringe 21:06:23 pm CST
aye she did and hated to even serve ta wine after that ..Laughs
vina{GS} 21:06:36 pm CST
grins to Master Blade...puckering luscious lips
galah{RA} 21:07:02 pm CST
you can have tidbits of food though alana IF given to you by the hand of a Free
sadiyah {GS} 21:09:29 pm CST
*slips in quietly kneeling next to her sisters*
galah{RA} 21:10:20 pm CST
and bits of parsit fish in the slave gruel...that must make for some bad breath too? Heheheheheeeeee
Laroona 21:10:28 pm CST
lol wondering if tori enters should I order ta-wine LOl
think she would run LOL
mary{GS} 21:11:10 pm CST
lol Mistress, You wouldnt! Lol
Laroona 21:12:05 pm CST
I have seen Free order slaves to drink paga, ale etc...
so what ever a free offers slaves usually take
larma sharing means an entirely different connection
Kringe 21:12:38 pm CST
Im sure she would at least say something like cringing at the thought
of ta wine ...laughs
Laroona 21:12:39 pm CST
**makes a note what to get mary to serve**
mary{GS} 21:13:39 pm CST
*eyes Mistress Laroona, trying to read Her notes*
Xertog 21:14:37 pm CST
Lets call the forum to a close. Thanks for coming. Thank you Laroona for scribing.
vina{GS} 21:14:50 pm CST
yes Master, thank You
Ulrich 21:15:31 pm CST
Thanks for running it tonight Xertog
And thanks for your efforts Laroona