FW DRESS IN OTHER GOREAN ROOMS
Xertog 19:40:30 CST
First topic:
FW wearing in-appropriate clothing at the Gorean Inn.....
I think it's frowned upon.. but from a slaves stand point.. should we really have to greet the "woman" as such when she's dressed as a common slut???
orli_{GS}~t 19:42:51 CST
may orli ask what is in-apporpriate clothing?
*curious as to why this is being brought up~
galah{GS} 19:43:41 CST
wouldn't that be a Mistress thats using a nude kindda icon?
Deirdre 19:43:48 CST
You know, Captain Xertog.......things like that keep happening......over and over again........and the only common denominator in all of the trouble is
that it is the same FW pulling that sort of slavelike behavior. She was reprimanded by Me for the same thing here in GS months ago.
leda{GS} 19:44:21 CST
this girl would always greet a FW where ever she is with honor and respect
...unless the FW told the girl differently ...for exmple One told the girl she is such when in Gor and other when in pool so this one respect that ...!
*smiles and waves to galah*
Xertog 19:45:14 CST
Before anything else is said on this it needs to be stated that the Inn is not part of GS and the Council has no authority in that room.
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 19:45:16 CST
orli... in appropriate clothing is an icon... such as a woman in a bikini.. or less at times...
tela thinks it could be overlooked if it was someone new to Gor... but in recent incidents it's not... it's from someone that knows how a FW should
dress.... and doesn't in the Inn..... tela for one doesn't feel she should have to greet her as a FW when she isn't acting like one.. tela knows the
Inn is Gor "lite" but it's still Gor..
emerald{Rm} 19:45:33 CST
if the FW is in the pool...that is one thing.. but isn't the Inn a doorway to GS....and won't a FW acting inapproriaptely around new People perhaps
instill the idea that FW are also sluts
Sandman_Bldr_Advisor 19:46:02 CST
pondering for a moment ,,,,, I wil have to defer to the words of a former (US ) Supreme Court Justice Stewart talking about pornography ,, " I may not be able to define it,, but I know it when I see it"
galah{GS} 19:46:52 CST
the inn is an easy going place, and as such, even FW can act inappropriately there with sexual conotations, but if a slave should speak to said FW as
such by greetings her with respect, is a good question....
leda{GS} 19:47:14 CST
oh was not thinking of the nude one, she too has double identities as do a few anyhow..as does this one too !
emerald{Rm} 19:47:23 CST
em has even seen a "FW" serve a Master..and even kneeling before Him when doing so
orli_{GS}~t 19:48:39 CST
orli shall try and play devils advocate here
a picture is just a picture....perhaps the FW liked the picture and simply wished to use it
or
the icon used portrays an image of either us or the "character" we are portraying so who is right?
if GS Council has no say in the Inn.....should it matter to us at GS?
orli thinks and feels that yes, it should matter if that FW is pledged to GS
secondly....the icon used should be fitting...for the longest time orli would never show bare breasts in the Piazza because of the FW
galah{GS} 19:49:12 CST
i think i agree with telaise on this one, i know i don't feel like being FW respectful to one that is acting just like a slave....unless they are new
and only finding out about gor, and not yet knowing there standing there
Zoran 19:50:48 CST
as most know I go by another name in Poolside
I never use it in the Inn
it is out of respect
so what I am saying it goes back to the person if they have respect for the way Gor is and how it should be seen
galah{GS} 19:51:44 CST
even though the council doesn't control the inn, its important to remember that it is a gateway though, and how we act there is going to reflect on gs,
although i am guilty of acting in a way there that i wouldn't dream of doing in the tavern cause of the "lite" atmosphere, but also to make it look fun
for those that are new
emerald{Rm} 19:52:01 CST
em can't understand why a FW would go half dressed to the Inn...when She has all of poolside to go naked if she wishes...
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 19:52:36 CST
tela too has a different name in Poolside... but she however will not use it in the Inn.. because that is a Gor based room.. and tho GS has no control
over it.. it's a gateway to here... and personally she feels she'd be dualing in some way if she used her other name.. but that's her opinion only
Zoran 19:53:10 CST
lol as I agree with em
I say someone one pushing the limit bu is only my opion
emerald{Rm} 19:53:51 CST
em uses em wherever she is...she hates using different names and always has
Zoran 19:54:43 CST
I agree with telasie
it is a respect for Gor not just GS
galah{GS} 19:55:05 CST
so if that be the case Master Zoran, it takes us back to the original question, should slaves address the FW that pushes the limits with the
respect due a FW?
leda{GS} 19:56:11 CST
this one is always leda in the Inn as she well as she was told to be by a Captain ...and has no trouble with such likes the Gor lite so to speak
...off topic a lil ...but is it not a one person issue and why is it up for a Forum discussion ?!....should it not be taken to Council and discussed
there and perhaps that person be approached about the issue if it is an issue ?
orli_{GS}~t 19:56:43 CST
unless orli was told NOT to address the FW who was pushing limitsthere is no way orli could not be respectful....either that or orli would
simply leave
Zoran 19:56:45 CST
galah then I say yes for it is not a slaves place
but a Master well that is another story
gor lite or not
a slave shall treat a free as a free it is not there place to judge a free
emerald{Rm} 19:58:07 CST
*shrugs*...sorry...em knows many FW and is Friends with them....but she has been thru this before..there are Ones who do not earn respect and em cannot give it...she will not lie and be sweet for the hell of it...even if it means a beating...
The_Skullsplitter 19:58:14 CST
Now hearing the topic having missed it before.
If the FW in question is from GS, she should be enslaved. It may not be controlled by GS Council, but it is the gateway to which most find GS for
the first time. It is the first presentation they have of Gor, yes it is lighter, but if they see FW looking like slaves, then they see FW of Gor nothing but slaves.
Should slaves treat them as Free? Yes, because they are Free, slaves cannot be given any form of power, and in this case it is the power to decide what is Gorean, and what is not, instead they should contact a Man about the incident, though the council say they have no decision making, difficult
one. The alternative is to inform the FW that they are breaching the traditional conduct expected of Gorean behaviour and should then be placed
on ignore. The Room is a Safe Room, there is little you can really do but that.
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 19:58:33 CST
it is just tela's opinion.. that someone who has been around "Gor" long enough to know the limits of a FW.. to go to a Gor based room and act or
dress as one is blatantly being rude and disrespectful....
galah{GS} 19:58:40 CST
but is a fw that dresses and acts like a slave at the inn, truly a FW to start with? is she respecting the ways of gor?
orli_{GS}~t 20:00:10 CST
thank You Jarl and Master Zoran for
saying exactly what orli meant
Zoran 20:00:24 CST
galah is not for you to say
but if a MAster on MSn you might call them lmao
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 20:00:27 CST
Jarl Skullsplitter.. what is a Man as told the FW that she isn't dressing appropriately and she continues to do so?
The_Skullsplitter 20:00:42 CST
~Hearing ems statement~
your words right there remind me of a past topic that was centered around slaves treating Men who are not "real" Masters with little respect, again,
that is power play, it is not down to the slaves to decide who is and who is not a Master, a Gorean, or a Free Person, they must simply follow the rules, and leave such decisions up to others, such as their owners, or the council.
Shadowruse 20:01:02 CST
I must pose the quesstion quickkly....having read only my first few books... were there ANY NK/NC zones in the books? I haven't seen one yet and if not, why have them here...
emerald{Rm} 20:01:45 CST
em has spoke to her Master and He will deal with both em and the matter...til then...em has placed the one she does not respect on ignore in the Inn and in GS
The_Skullsplitter 20:07:33 CST
No Shadowruse, though there were examples of activities that were such, such as The Thing of Torvaldsland, no weapons were allowed for the Peace of the Thing were upon them, but also, you have to think in realistic terms, some people come to Gor for the pure aspects of a Gorean philosophy, some are not interested in all the deeper RolePlay asepcts and in the past you used to get trouble maker groups who would shit stir for no reason, come into a near empty room, kill someone, steal some slaves, have a giggle and ruin someones online enjoyment, for that reason "Safe" zones were created, with the unsafe zones created for the more adept RolePlayer to interact in. By having a mix, you can cater for all, though of course Safe zones are seen as pathetic by many, you have to understand why they are included.
Zoran 20:11:41 CST
I think this question is like most in forum
goes back if the person respect the ways of Gor
lowers his head under the hood
Ulrich20:16:25 CST
Aye Zoran, but the way the question was worded, should a slave correct her in any way?
I say no.
As Thorfin said, she should treat her like a FW, tell her Owner about it, and He can correct the FW.
If it's an honest mistake or lack of knowledge, she will correct herself. If she continues the behavior and refuses to respect Gor, she should suffer the
consequences, be it a collar, or the ignore button.
Deirdre 20:17:58 CST
Ulrich.......You are right......but it IS continual behavior......has continued for months and months.....though now NOT in GS.........at least NOT when there are honorable FM around that would make good on the collar threat.
Shadowruse 20:18:00 CST
I say Kolar....it is the way.....
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 20:18:19 CST
tela would never try to correct a Free... no matter what... her personal main issue has been.. being there... seeing a FW pretty much flirt and act just
as us slaves do.. in icons that are not befitting a FW... and she personally has a problem greeting someone who she knows... understand what a FW should dress as in a Gor room...
Zoran 20:19:25 CST
I agree Ulrich is no place of a slave pops em
just cause she was thinking it
If it keeps going then it should be delt with as I MAster would lol
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 20:19:41 CST
and tela knows at least one Man who has told her it's inappropriate attire
FORUM TIME CHANGE?
Xertog 20:18:40 CST
New Topic:
Rollo for years has run the weekly forums. Due to a RT conflict he has not been here the last 6 weeks. I'd like to see the forums changed to Tuesdays
instead of Mondays so we can have Rollo here. What are your thoughts and feelings?
Shadowruse 20:19:44 CST
Would love to see all attend... specially Rollo... he is family and as such should be included
Ulrich20:19:57 CST
Xertog, unfortunately, Monday nights are really the only nights that r/t gives me any hope of being here at forum time
Kristian's_lil_eva 20:20:33 CST
eva would not be able to attend fourms on tuesdays due to rt
Deirdre 20:21:15 CST
Tuesday nights are bad for Me also. I wouldn't be able to attend at all.
The_Skullsplitter 20:21:37 CST
Of course Rollo is THE integral part of this site, it is worth trying to see how the numbers vary, many are unable to make Mondays, maybe Monday nights can be made into something else, a catch up night form the previous weeks forum, or an agenda discussion for the next day, or perhaps even a
"Training" or "Mentoring" night where Q&A can happen. Some people are probably too set in the ways to forget coming in on a Monday night.
~Chuckles~
Kristian 20:22:03 CST
tuesday woud be negative for Me too..
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 20:22:27 CST
perhaps alternate every other week?
Sandman_Bldr_Advisor 20:23:00 CST
Monday nights are better for me ,,, is there another night that might worl... I realise that there is no one night that works esp with some many
people from around the globe
emerald{Rm} 20:23:03 CST
most tuesdays are out for em as well...r/t comes first
galah{GS} 20:23:05 CST
or gorean jeopardy on mondays? heheheheheheeee
Sandman_Bldr_Advisor 20:23:25 CST
is there another night that Rollo could be here?
The_Skullsplitter 20:24:48 CST
Yeah, have to admit really, Monday works best for Me too, but maybe the alternate method might work, but might also confuse people. I'd personally prefer to see Rollo attending though as it is really the only night he gets a chance to have a bit of a laugh and express himself as opposed to delete stupid messages on the boards.
Shadowruse 20:25:46 CST
I say two week Mondays Two weeks Tuesdays either alternate or straight
galah{GS} 20:25:57 CST
does sunday night work for those that say tues night won't?
Deirdre 20:26:10 CST
Shadowruse.....That would be terribly confusing.......
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 20:26:41 CST
if the alternate night approach was tried tela would volunteer to post reminds on the board each week of when it would be held... perhaps that
would help.....
Kristian's_lil_eva 20:27:22 CST
what about maby a friday?
sha'reen{Xg-L} 20:27:56 CST
~raises her hand~ this girl would also volunteer to post reminders on the board, if tela forgot ~giggles~
Ulrich 20:28:19 CST
Not for Me galah. Truly, Monday is my 1 free night to have a couple of hours to sit here, relatively uninterrupted
Xertog 20:28:40 CST
Most Sundays would work well for me
galah{GS} 20:29:42 CST
friday night would be saturday morn for him, and i know that won't be good, a normal shopping day
leda{GS} 20:29:50 CST
also thinks Master Rollo should suggest a night for Forum on the Board that is suitable to Him and see what the attendence is like, and judge from there then ?!..
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 20:29:55 CST
any night pretty much works for tela as long as her hubby isn't scheduled to be home at that time....
galah{GS} 20:30:44 CST
your sunday night would be his monday morning, would be a good time for him
shauna{Grizzly's} 20:31:04 CST
shauna believes if 2 nights are chosen and listed in the corks.....have a vote....and next Forum night...tally it up and see what the majority has
said
{MDK}_~His_'laise~ 20:31:57 CST
perhaps a trial run then on alternating weeks??? that way perhaps everyone would get to attend a Forum at one point or another.. and use notes from
each to perhaps touch on subjects that peaked alot of response??
Xertog 20:37:38 CST
I'll be in touch with Rollo and a change or alternating days will be considered. Any change will be posted on the boards..
Any other topics?? Send me a whisper.
Ulrich 20:41:27 CST
Who knows, perhaps moving the forum to another night will help GS get more active. If everyone here showed up on Monday nights for r/p that could be interesting, and maybe some that can't make it on Mondays can attend the forum.