Thadron Advisor to GS 19:41:45 pm CDT
if anyone has topics to discuss, send them to Me now in whispers
Thadron Advisor to GS 19:49:38 pm CDT
again, feel free to whisper any topics for discussion
Thadron Advisor to GS 19:55:25 pm CDT
Forum is now open ~ please keep greetings and chit chat to whispers until it is over
snowrose, can you scribe tonight, girl?
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:01:11 pm CDT
I believe the first topic can be handled rather quickly..
What is the fruit that makes ka-la-na? All I've found is (It comes from the fruit of the ka-la-na tress). Is it not a fruit the ppl eat as well? If so what's it look and taste like?
A good question and I know I have seen better descriptions than that in the books... anyone?
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:02:41 pm CDT
i don´t recall to have seen the ka-la-na fruit ever mentioned in the books
But i may remember wrong, of cause
though a Master is never wrong *chuckles*
Dak 20:02:51 pm CDT
Fruit is easily picked from trees
'I'm hungry,' she said.
'I am, too,' I laughed, suddenly aware that I had not eaten anything since the night before. I was ravenous. 'Over there,' I said, 'are some Ka-la-na trees. Wait here and I'll gather some fruit.'
...
I picked some Ka-la-na fruit and opened one of the packages of rations. Talena returned and sat beside me on the grass. I shared the food with her.
Tarnsman
nasreen{TH}t 20:03:21 pm CDT
The trees are sweet-smelling
The logs had been prepared and carefully placed. There were hundreds of them, trimmed and squared, mostly of Ka-la-na wood, from the sweet-smelling wine trees of Gor.
Assassin
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:03:32 pm CDT
Ka-la-na trees are tall growing trees that are yellow in color with dark fruit and grow in many regions throughout Gor. Ka-la-na that is grown in the vicinity of Ar is often promoted as the most desireable. The fruit of this tree is eaten raw and also in the making of Ka-la-na Wine and Kal-da. At one time, it was also the primary ingredient of slave wine though it has since been replaced by a more potent recipe.
Lastly, as the culmination of Ar's Planting Feast, and of the greatest importance to the plan of the Council of Ko-ro-ba, a member of the Ubar's family goes to the roof at night, under the three full moons with which the feast is correlated, and casts grain upon the stone and drops of a red, winelike drink made from the fruit of the Ka-la-na tree. --Tarnsman of Gor
I could see the shadows of tall Ka-la-na trees bending against the darkness of the night, their leaves lifting and rustling on the long branches. -- Outlaw of Gor
Gripped in the talons of the Tarn was the dead body of an antelope, one of the one-horned, yellow antelopes called Tabuks that frequent the bright Ka-la-na thickets of Gor. --Tarnsman of Gor
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:03:41 pm CDT
fruit picked from trees makes red wine ~
nasreen{TH}t 20:03:47 pm CDT
Ka-la-na wine is made from the fruit of the Ka-la-na tree
Lastly, as the culmination of Ar's Planting Feast, and of the greatest importance to the plan of the Council of Ko-ro-ba, a member of the Ubar's family goes to the roof at night, under the three full moons with which the feast is correlated, and casts grain upon the stone and drops of a red, winelike drink made from the fruit of the Ka-la-na tree.
Tarnsman
Dak 20:04:48 pm CDT
evidently there is no description of the fruit in the books
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:06:19 pm CDT
those are the descriptions I can find.. only that it is from the trees
Tanthio§~~~ Master of sabella 20:06:33 pm CDT
I couldn't really find any. I suppose that's why it's not offered on the Menu *chuckles*
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:06:49 pm CDT
Dak ``` all it says its picked from the trees makes nice red wine ~~~` doesn't say what it looks like ~
nasreen{TH}t 20:07:23 pm CDT
Ka-la-na Tree
Besides several of the flower trees there were also some Ka-la-na trees, or the yellow wine trees of Gor;
[Nomads of Gor p217]
Ho-Hak reached down and unwrapped the leather from the yellow bow of supple Ka-la-na
[Raiders of Gor p19]
Dak 20:07:47 pm CDT
to makea red wine, I assume it would be a fruit similar to maybe a large grape, *smiles*
Lita, Physician 20:07:54 pm CDT
Here is something from Ubar Luther on it: Ka-la-na tree: The Ka-la-na tree is also known as the wine tree because the famous Ka-la-na wine is derived from its fruit. The bark and inner wood of this tree is yellow and the wood is actually very strong and supple. It is commonly used in making bows. The tree fruit that can be eaten as is or used to create wine. The tree smells sweet, likely due to its fruit and not the wood itself. The books unfortunately do not describe what Ka-la-na fruit looks like. Ka-la-na orchards are very common across Gor and many cities make their own brand of Ka-la-na wine.
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:07:54 pm CDT
i see, the description is mentioned at least once a bit
a dark fruit
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:08:27 pm CDT
If anyone finds a description of the fruit from the books, feel free to share in the future...
Lita, Physician 20:09:09 pm CDT
Ka-la-na: This is commonly an almost incandescent red wine, bright, dry and powerful, made from the fruit of the Ka-la-na tree. The fruit can also be used to make dry, sweet and light wines. There are actually quite a variety of types of this wine. Many cities make their own brands and most people have their personal preferences. Boleto's Nectar of the Public Slave Gardens is a major brand of Ka-la-na served in Ar's public slave gardens. Boleto is a well-known winegrower from the vicinity of Ar. He is famous for the production of a large number of reasonably good, medium-grade Ka-la-nas. Ka-la-na is normally sold and served in bottles. It is said that this wine makes any woman a slave if but for an hour. An unnamed white wine exists on Gor and there are inferences in the books that lead one to conclude that white, or other color, ka-la-na may exist. There is no passage in the books that states ka-la-na is only red.
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:10:26 pm CDT
so you are an expert on ka-la-na, Lita? ~grins wondering if she gets the joke~
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:10:50 pm CDT
anything else?
nasreen{TH}t 20:11:19 pm CDT
Ka~la~na is on the Menu of GS and this one has served it many times..
PAGA or SUL-PAGA served either hot or cold
1 copper tarsk
N/A
KA-LA-NA served chilled or room temp red wine
1 copper tarsk
3 copper tarsk
KALDA a hot wine & sweet fruit juices with spice
1 copper tarsk
N/A
ALE served chilled or room temp in tankard or horn
1 copper tarsk
N/A
MEAD usually chilled or room temp in tankard or horn
1 copper tarsk
N/A
RENCE BEER acquired by the Rencers in large gourds
1 copper tarsk
3 copper per gourd
TA-WINE usually chilled or room temp light wine
2 copper tarsk
6 copper tarsk
BLACK WINE a hot, aromic brew-first slave or second slave
2 copper tarsk
N/A
BAZI TEA a hot-only specialty serve for the experienced taste
2 copper tarsk
N/A
TURIAN WINE a room temp thick and sweet
2 copper tarsk
6 copper tarsk
TURIAN LIQUEUR a thicker and sweeter room temp liqueur
Lita, Physician 20:13:08 pm CDT
Oh I get it all right, Thadron! *snicker* And because I know a lot about it doesn't mean that I have drunk it! But, it's one of the many things I have to know as Physician, as I have had patients who do drink it. Sometimes more than is good for them~ *winks*
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:13:22 pm CDT
nods... I think I will move on to the next topic....
nasreen{TH}t 20:13:37 pm CDT
ahh she apologizes for misunderstanding
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:14:19 pm CDT
~laughs~ as you say, Lita
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:15:04 pm CDT
next topic:
Free Companionship is the Gorean equivalent of marriage and it is common to most of the cities of Gor except for Port Kar. Free Companionship lasts for a single year at a time when it either must be renewed with the wines of love or it will dissolve. The renewal must be performed by the twentieth Ahn, midnight, of the anniversary date. If either party dies or is enslaved, the Free Companionship will also dissolve. It is unknown whether the parties can voluntarily choose to dissolve, like a divorce, the Free Companionship prior to the year's end. As it is a contractual matter, the possibility exists, but the books do not speak on this matter. But, Free Companionship is a very serious matter to Goreans. It is not entered into lightly and seems unlikely that Goreans would see a need to end it earlier than the year's end. There are others who feel differently about Free Companionship. "Some Goreans think of the Free Companionship as being a form of contract slavery." (Blood Brothers of Gor, p.246)
So if Free Companionship is not accepted in Port Kar, how are such things handled?
Tanthio§~~~ Master of sabella 20:18:37 pm CDT
They have to Move!
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:19:45 pm CDT
In Hunters of Gor Bosk has extented thoughts about a FC with Talena after He will have freed her from the panther girls
so i assume FC are not unknown in Port Kar
Dak 20:19:56 pm CDT
there is little mention in Raiders of Free Women, but one wpould have to assume there were some, if not only the Ubars had them
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:21:23 pm CDT
but he was slave, so Bosk cannot engage in a FC, Thorrn....
Dak 20:24:07 pm CDT
also, I'm not sure He planned to bring her back to Port Kar as a Free Woman since she had been enslaved
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:24:09 pm CDT
However, Thorrn, I believe your point is, if Bosk is of Port Kar and would consider a FC, then it must be allowed.. a good point...
and I am interested in if the books mean that it is common in other cities and not common in Port Kar, or not found in Port Kar...
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:24:12 pm CDT
Thadron
But Bosk does so in Hunters of Gor, long and expressively
He dreams about having Talena an Ubar´s daughter as FC of high status and become the most powerful house in all of Gor
i just read those parts of Hunters of Gor these days
The slavery of Bosk is gone already, otherwise He couldn´t be a Captain and Admiral of Port Kar, i think
Lita, Physician 20:25:35 pm CDT
But, Jarl Thorrn, the books say that Port Kar does not RECOGNIZE Free Companionships, So even though They wouldn have heard about them, they didn't exist there. So hown didn they handle relationships between the Free?
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:26:08 pm CDT
Dak
He did dream of that and didn´t consider of Talena being a slave
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:26:13 pm CDT
Lita, is that the case, Port Kar doesn't recognize Free Companionships
Dak 20:26:49 pm CDT
maybe a letter of protection , for a Free Woman
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:27:12 pm CDT
~nods~ good timing to discuss this...
if someone can remember... were Xertog and Laroona in a FC? I remember they were anyone?
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:27:23 pm CDT
The Free Companion seeks for her companion, and the slave girl seeks her master. " ... For instance, the city of Port Kar does not recognize the free companionship. ... There is never a mention of 'wedding' rings being exchanged. .
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:27:23 pm CDT
Lita
i have no idea how they handle this in Port Kar i only know what Bosk planned to do
sabella{T§} 20:27:50 pm CDT
yes Master Thadron they were...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~t~ 20:28:24 pm CDT
yes girl remembers that They FCed, though she was not present at a ceremony
{Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:28:36 pm CDT
*slips in with a smile on her face and sinks to her knees*
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:28:37 pm CDT
and Laroona, I haven't found a ruling on the webpage yet regarding FC in GS... have you looked at the archived forum pages? I think that is the last place for me to look
nasreen{TH}t 20:28:54 pm CDT
There is no marriage, as we know it, on Gor, but there is the institute of the Free Companionship, which is its nearest correspondent.
Outlaw
One may have, at a given time, an indefinite number of slaves, but only one Free Companion.
However, among the tribes in the jungles near Schendi, we find that a man having hundreds of companions is acceptable.
“Do you truly think that Bila Huruma,” I asked, “who owns or is companion to perhaps hundreds of women would pursue you into the jungle at great risk to himself and his empire to get back one girl, a girl whom he doubtless realizes has by now been reduced to slavery, and has thus been rendered politically worthless, and a girl who was never more to him to begin with than a convenience in a minor political situation on the Ngao coast?”
Explorers
“Lady Tende, daughter of Aibu, high chief of Ukungu,” said Mwoga, “is being conveyed in honor to the ceremony of companionship, to be mated to his majesty, Bila Huruma.”
“She is being sold to seal a bargain,” said Kisu. “How could she be more a slave?”
Tende’s face remained expressionless.
“Of her own free will,” said Mwoga, “the Lady Tende hastens to become Ubara to Bila Huruma.”
“One of more than two hundred Ubaras!” scoffed Kisu.
Explorers
Additionally, this restriction on only one FC is perhaps why the Free Companionship is not recognized in Port Kar. We see mention of "His women" and "My women" throughout scenes in Port Kar which refer to both free women and slaves.
Port Kar does not recognize the Free Companionship, but there are free women in the city, who are known simply as the women of their men.
Raiders
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:30:15 pm CDT
Xertog and Laroona are in a FC
Also Portus and Sophie celebrated there FC and both are pledged to Port Kar
the more i wonder that they now run the Gorean Inn with first girls and such and the Board of Captains doesn´t react to that
I mentioned my astonishment about the running the Gorean Inn as something like a competition to GS though both pledged to the Homestone of Port Kar in an email to Portus, He never answered to this
Dak 20:30:20 pm CDT
I remember it being discussed years ago, but don't remember the outcome other than Captains could not have a Free Comapnion
nasreen{TH}t 20:31:14 pm CDT
Mistress Laroona is Master Xertog's Woman not a FC
Dak 20:30:20 pm CDT
I remember it being discussed years ago, but don't remember the outcome other than Captains could not have a Free Comapnion
nasreen{TH}t 20:31:14 pm CDT
Mistress Laroona is Master Xertog's Woman not a FC
Dak 20:31:45 pm CDT
She Was His woman, but I don't remember hearing they were Free Companions
Lita, Physician 20:31:59 pm CDT
That is wht the books say, Thadron. In several different places.
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:32:56 pm CDT
Thorrn, you should also email the Council about the matter of the Gorean Inn and the way it is organized.. but that is another topic, and one I cannot go very far in discussing without the Council present
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:33:21 pm CDT
Laroona was Xertog´s woman?
Never heard of something like a marriage in Gor
nasreen{TH}t 20:34:11 pm CDT
it wasn't a marriage Jarl Thorrn...
it's like this quote from Raiders
Port Kar does not recognize the Free Companionship, but there are free women in the city, who are known simply as the women of their men.
Raiders
sabella{T§} 20:34:44 pm CDT
Mistress Laroona IS Master Xertogs Companion...
inara{Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:34:52 pm CDT
*Hears Jarl Thorrn, glad Someone has brought up the issue with the Inn.*
Lita, Physician 20:34:59 pm CDT
Jarl Thorrn, as nasreen has posted:: There is no marriage, as we know it, on Gor, but there is the institute of the Free Companionship, which is its nearest correspondent.
Outlaw
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:35:26 pm CDT
~nods~ The answer then is Free Men can have Free Women, but it is not recognized as FreeCompanionship in Port Kar, thus not recognized in Gorean Shores... though I will be emailing Xertog to find out for sure how He handled this in the past
Dak 20:35:27 pm CDT
I don't believe GS has any control over the Inn, only the activities of GS slaves
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:36:18 pm CDT
Lita
that is what i understand too, there is FC
Of what kind is the relationship of Free Women as the Women of their Men?
Which has been mentioned by nasreen
Lita, Physician 20:36:24 pm CDT
You may be correct there, Dak
Dak 20:37:19 pm CDT
it was discussed in Forum just last year
inara{Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:37:31 pm CDT
*Hears Master Dak* This one was always of the notion that the Inn is simply an entrance to Port Kar, but still part of it? There are rules as to how slaves are to serve there. *Brow furrows*
nasreen{TH}t 20:37:36 pm CDT
no Mistress Laroona is His Woman..both of them will tell You that...
as Port Kar does not have Free companions...at least that is what they both told this girl when she first entered many moons ago
Lita, Physician 20:38:20 pm CDT
"Of what kind is the relationship of Free Women as the Women of their Men?" That is more or less My question, Jarl Thorn. And not only because of Port Kar. If I understand correctly, Tghe Free Women of Torvaldsland were alos the "Women" of Their Men, and not Free Companions.
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:39:14 pm CDT
Master Thadron said: "The answer then is Free Men can have Free Women, but it is not recognized as FreeCompanionship in Port Kar, thus not recognized in Gorean Shores." This one thinks that is a very adequate discription.
sabella{T§} 20:39:16 pm CDT
thinking that was once Owned by the Master and Mistress would know..
nasreen{TH}t 20:39:50 pm CDT
this one kinda of thought of it as on earth where a couple would live together without being married...or Friends with Benefits..
Dak 20:40:02 pm CDT
aye, that is true, inara, but it is only GS slaves that are under those rules , as GS has no control over persnal slaves unless they are in GS without their Master, but still can't supercede personal restrictions
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:40:16 pm CDT
~nods~ inara, that is correct, and I will be contacting Xertog to make sure there aren't any Council Decisions that I am not aware of regarding FC...
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:41:03 pm CDT
This one's guess is "His woman", means they are Free women, but have not entered into a contractual oblication of a Free Companionship.
Dak 20:42:21 pm CDT
if I remember correctly , it is only Captains in GS that are not allowed Free Companions
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:42:26 pm CDT
Master Dak: This one guesses that she just has always considered the Inn to be part of GS and Port Kar.......
Thadron Advisor to GS 20:43:10 pm CDT
Thanks Dak, I will ask if that is how Xertog remembers it too
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:43:30 pm CDT
*looks to Master Dak curiously.* Why would the Captains not be allowed Free Companions, but others are?
Dak 20:45:06 pm CDT
it's been 10 year ago this came up becuz of one of the new Captains having a Free Companion
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:46:30 pm CDT
Master Dak: *nods* But what is the reason behind it? or do You remember?
Lita, Physician 20:47:57 pm CDT
WEll, I would think if it is prohibited to the Captains, it would be prohibited by definition to All, would it not?
Dak 20:48:51 pm CDT
well, in the books none of the Captains had FW's in any state of Companionship, to My knowledge it seemed to be frowned on
Dak 20:49:32 pm CDT
evidently not necessarily, Lita
Lita, Physician 20:49:41 pm CDT
There is an old saying tht "Rank hath its privileges", and I cannot see allowing a "privilege to the "rank and file" that is denied to Those holding Office or Power. Especially on Gor
hadron Advisor to GS 20:50:17 pm CDT
as Sandman tells Me, I am Advisor, so I need to advise... if anyone finds any council decision or documented forum discussion on FC please bring it to My attention.... then I can bring it to a future Forum
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:50:29 pm CDT
Master Dak: Interesting.....
Dak 20:53:22 pm CDT
well, maybe that was a privilege of being a Captain to not have a FW, *smiles*
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:54:16 pm CDT
*bites her lips together trying not to grin at Master Dak's response.*
Lita, Physician 20:54:25 pm CDT
*laughs* yes, and I can just about see Gorean Men thinking it a privilege not to have to be burdened with a Companion! *LOL*
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:56:29 pm CDT
grins @ Lita and agrees with Dak
may be that is the idea behind that rule
don´t bother the Captains with FW and keep them from Their duties for GS *L*
Dak 20:57:40 pm CDT
as I have noticed after Tarnsmen, Tarl never considered having another FC and returned Talena to He Father after she had been a slave. of which He kept her locked away for many years
sabella{T§} 20:58:31 pm CDT
if bel is correct Master Sandman had a Companion also..
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:01:25 pm CDT
any other discussion on FC?
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:03:37 pm CDT
sorry Dak
Tarl considers having Talena as FC very intensivley in Hunters of Gor
You will see when it comes to those chapters during the book club
he only will change this plan after Marlenus will have Talena back and explitely denie that she is still His daughter, because she begged like a slave to be bought from the panther girls, As Talena is now officially an Ubar´s faughter anymore the plan of Tarl got crushed, Talena is of no value anymore beyond being a slave
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:04:35 pm CDT
The other topic that was slightly discussed was that of the Gorean Inn
We don't have the time to finish that discussion tonight... but if you would like to take a few minutes and voice concerns that haven't been raised already, I can take them to the Council..
Dak 21:05:22 pm CDT
aye, He does until He sees how slave she is when I finally aquires her, and she has no desire to be returned to being an FW
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:06:12 pm CDT
Jarl Thadron for reference point is gorean in an extension of gs and if so doesn;t the same rules apply there also yes ??
Tanthio§~~~ Master of sabella 21:06:27 pm CDT
Nothing from Me. Never been there...
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:06:41 pm CDT
now you have ruined it for all of us who like to read book club topics as we go, Thorrn ~laughs~
nasreen{TH}t 21:06:54 pm CDT
this one stopped going there long ago
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~t~ 21:06:57 pm CDT
girl understood that GI was established to be a place to acquaint interested parties about Gor and encourage them to come to GS...not to be the personal Home of two pledged Free...and run as a regular Gorean room,
nasreen{TH}t 21:07:29 pm CDT
that is what this one thought too snowrose
Dak 21:08:23 pm CDT
Portus, told Me He got permission from GaryM, to run the INN
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:08:55 pm CDT
Thadron
I think there is one point about the Gorean Inn at poolsuide that should be cleared exactly
Is the GI a part of GS, only put to Poolside as a showview, a kind of Grean Light or is it an indepent room in Poolside
At the bottom of the GI it says ...
Needing a little more Gor?
And then there is the Button with the link to GS
A little while ago, as i got informed, Master Portus was officially instituted by the Webmaster as Innkeeper of the Gorean Inn.
So what are the relationships between GS and GI?
sabella{T§} 21:08:57 pm CDT
if a collared GS slave enters the Inn they are suposed to serve and offer service is this correct?
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 21:09:02 pm CDT
Well, this one has always considered the Inn part of GS, though these days it is usually only used as gateway to GS. This one has served in the Inn a few times to muster interest in Gor, but does not feel it should be viewed seperately from GS with different people in charge and a different FG.
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:09:11 pm CDT
more of a portal than an extension, Kazar... there is a link there to GS and all GS pledged and slave should follow the GS rules while there...
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:09:57 pm CDT
sorry Thadron for ruining this
But the questions have been so stubborn *l*
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:10:19 pm CDT
Thadron ok
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~t~ 21:10:22 pm CDT
yes, but should He have done that without Council approval
Dak 21:10:57 pm CDT
it might be Good if one of the Captains spoke with GaryM to get confimation on this, but I think GaryM has maintained control of the under Poolsidechat
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:11:01 pm CDT
I think this is a question which should be put to the Webmaster
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 21:11:06 pm CDT
It seems to this one, that slaves not doing full serves, and showing completely what Gor is, seems to not attract many new people in GS. People seem more interested when they get the full effect, but that is just this girl's view on it.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~t~ 21:11:13 pm CDT
no sabella...we do not have to offer service...and if asked only do a brief harta serve...
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:12:21 pm CDT
~nods~ thanks, what everyone is bringing up about the Inn is what I know also, and I will take this matter to the Council... please post any other questions and opinions you have quickly before we close Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:11:58 pm CDT
snowrose
the Webmaster is the owner of both places, GS and Poolside
He is the Master and can do what ever He sees fit to Him
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:12:26 pm CDT
inara i agree thier only one captain yes Sandman and his rules should apply well GS rules should apply
inara{Kyoto of Port Kar} 21:12:54 pm CDT
Ah, did not know if the Webmaster was owner of GS.......
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:13:18 pm CDT
inara
it was the policy of the Board of Capatains that in the Gorean Inn are only done harta services and no sexual services and actions at all
that should be done in GS
The Inn was only a showcase to lure people to GS for more
nasreen{TH}t 21:13:23 pm CDT
Master Ulrich is still a Captain isn't He? Even though He has been gone due to rt
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:14:15 pm CDT
Thorrn, no, please bring up all of your concerns, I have the same ones believe me.... I just don't have authority to provide the answers... but I can "advise" the Council
Dak 21:14:26 pm CDT
that is Correct Thorrn
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:14:28 pm CDT
nasreen have never seen Ulrich here yet ~~~
Lita, Physician 21:14:45 pm CDT
It is My undertanding that the Couple Who have kind of taken over Gorean Inn have done so with full permission of the WebMaster, and after discussing it with Him
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~t~ 21:14:53 pm CDT
The idea has been to invite them to GS to see the beauty and passion of the slaves
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:15:06 pm CDT
what astonished Me a lot is that i saw slaves with a tag ... fg of Gorean Inn
That shows Me that Master Portus runs the place as a competition to GS though He is pledged to the Homestone of Port Kar
very strange to Me
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:15:09 pm CDT
Ulrich is still Senior Captain... Sandman is the other active member of the Council
nasreen{TH}t 21:15:49 pm CDT
perhaps He should be banned from GS then?
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~t~ 21:15:57 pm CDT
yes girl knows Gary can do it, but Master Portus is pledged to GS...should He have done it?
nasreen{TH}t 21:16:21 pm CDT
or at least made to redraw His pledge??
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:16:30 pm CDT
Jarl Thorn aye that was my concern competition with G/S
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 21:16:51 pm CDT
It is possible that the Webmaster is just not aware of how GS is run, and there are Captains who make decisions and such. Thus, what seemed an agreable compromise, was made without knowledge of what really goes on in here.
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:17:02 pm CDT
the first thing I will advise is the council learn the intent of Gary with the approval he gave to Portus... I am not going to assume anything until then
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:17:31 pm CDT
nods to Lita
Sophie and Portus run the Inn with the consent of the Webmaster
But both are pledged to Port Kar
so they should run it as addition and not as competition, that is My understanding
Lita, Physician 21:18:02 pm CDT
I agree that it is strange, Jarl Thorrn. However, if it is any comfort, the few times I have checked, I have not seen any activities going on in there. Gorean or otherwise. No people either. And, as I said, this was done with the full consent of the WEb Master. so we are kinda stuck there. Though I don't know that Portus intends on running the Gorean Inn as exactly "Competition" to GS
Dak 21:18:05 pm CDT
good plan , Thadron, I'm only relaying what I have heard
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:18:20 pm CDT
inara maybe so Thadron is it possible have the council email gary too specify his intentions ??
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 21:18:35 pm CDT
Perhaps things should be talked out first with everyone, to make sure there were no misunderstandings, before we start banning people. That action never looks good to others who may be interested in Gor.
sabella{T§} 21:18:49 pm CDT
~soft laugh~ not sure when the two "running" GI have gotten
a hold of Webby because he usually doesnt get out rights like
that... not to mention he knows that the Council set the rules
for GI WHEN Gorean Shores was broke off and made a separate site
from the pool...
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:18:52 pm CDT
inara
Webmaster runs both places since maaaaany years
i don´t think there is anything of this kind He is not aware off
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:19:38 pm CDT
thank you everyone, I do hear all of your concerns...
the one thing I can say is that the Council has not decided regarding these matters and nothing said here tonight can be rendered as the Voice of the Council of Captains of Gorean Shores until the Council speaks on the matter
Lita, Physician 21:19:54 pm CDT
inara, I have the WebMaster on Facebook, I don't see Him beng active there, but, if necessary, I could try to contact Him there. I had left it to the Council as it is Their business, and not Mine as a Free Woman, nor do I see it as then business of slaves either.
Dak 21:20:47 pm CDT
I have His phone number want Me to call and ask?
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 21:21:25 pm CDT
*nods to Jarl Thornn and her sister sabella* This one had no idea what the Webmaster may or may not know. *laughs*
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:22:11 pm CDT
Lita
at certain times i saw a crowd in the place
many slaves are collared {HoP}, (House of Portus), hardly any othr slaves besides those of Tiberias are in there and what made Me think there is a fg of Gorean Inn
there should be no other fg besides those of the Board of Captains - or those of private owned slaves in the chain of a Master
Lita, Physician 21:22:13 pm CDT
sabella, trust Me. The WebMaster is well aware and gave permission for the running of the Gorean Inn.
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 21:23:04 pm CDT
*nods to Mistress Lita* Agreed, only voicing one's opinion because it was brought up in forums. A girl is only try to be the voice of reason before things get out of control, which this one has seen before. This one has not intention of getting involved. *smiles*
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:23:50 pm CDT
That is well understood Thadron
this is only an expression of the thoughts of the Masters, FW, and slave sin here
Nothing iis official, just some thoughts and concerns
Dak 21:23:53 pm CDT
well, Portus Himself told Me He had GaryM's permission, until I hear other wise I believe it to be so
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:23:56 pm CDT
If you contact the webmaster it is on your own accord. I will let the Council know that Dak and Lita have offered to contact. But I am not asking anybody to until it is discussed by the Council.
Tanthio§~~~ Master of sabella 21:24:50 pm CDT
Ahhh so that's where the {HOP} collared are from. *pardon the noob to this site*
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:25:37 pm CDT
Thadron
According to the rules no one of Uus can speak for GS to anyone
That is only for the Captains
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 21:25:39 pm CDT
*grins to Master Tanthios* It took this one a minute to figure that one out too.
Lita, Physician 21:25:43 pm CDT
I agree Dak. I was told the same. Again, thisis all the Council's business, though of course We should all express any concerns that we may have. And I'm reasonably certain the Council has contact info for the WebMaster should They wish to do so.
Thadron Advisor to GS 21:25:58 pm CDT
I call this forum closed
snowrose thank you..
everyone, thank you for your discussion
Tanthio§~~~ Master of sabella 21:28:24 pm CDT
Thank You for leading Thadron
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:28:29 pm CDT
Thank you Thadron for leading the forum
and thank you My girl for scribing
*kisses her neck lovingly*
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~t~ 21:28:35 pm CDT
Thank You for leading another interesting discussion Master Thadron...notice girl has been spelling it correctly tonight? ~laughs~
Lita, Physician 21:29:32 pm CDT
awww snow! I rather liked the spelling the other way! *chuckle*
Dak 21:29:40 pm CDT
Thanks Thadron and snowrose
aatira 21:29:45 pm CDT
the girl thanks You, Master Thadron for Your leadership in facilitating this forum.... *soft smile*
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~t~ 21:30:17 pm CDT
girl likes it too Mistress...~winks to the Master