Rollo_the_Ax 19:11:18 CST
Well, ladies..... it is time to begin the forum, so let us start and any others can just play * catch up * when they show.....LOL... Welcome once again to the GS forum....same rules as always..... etc., etc., ........
Rollo_the_Ax 19:16:29 CST
LOL...LOL.. well.....where should we begin ??? Does anybody have a topic they feel should be discussed ??? any questions ???? need information on a subject ??? want to trade recipes ???? LOL...LOL.. LMAO.....
Rollo_the_Ax 19:20:44 CST
LOL..LOL.. If nobody else has a topic, I guess that I can come up with one.....but very often folks wish they had come up with one of there own.....LOL...
Rollo_the_Ax 19:21:46 CST
Okay... I think I have one coming in now...... topic that is.....
Laroona_Scribe 19:21:50 CST
A news flash from the scribes**
I am in process of setting up a page for 2006 notes and making life easier for any uploading later on.... *S*
there will be a new link which I will post on the boards in the next day or so *S*
SLAVES UNCOMFORTABLE in certain POSITIONS / SITUATIONS
Rollo_the_Ax 19:23:22 CST
Okay.....here we go... " what can a slave do if she gets in an uncomfortable position with a Master either public or private? "
~Mariposa~ 19:24:15 CST
is that an uncomfortable physical position, upside down with her nose pushed up in the corner, or an emotionally difficult position that tries her "morals" and beliefs as a slave and belonging to someone?
alyena{GS} 19:25:14 CST
perhaps an uncomfortable situation in which He threatens to harm her physically... for His own pleasure..
Laroona_Scribe 19:25:27 CST
C& P the incident.... as well as write what occurred if no C&P made... and leave the situation... then report the event to her Owner(s)
Rollo_the_Ax 19:25:31 CST
I can only assume that we are talking about problems here, and not really positions, right ???? LOL.. Like the Kama Sutra has LOTS of * positions * and quite a few would not be * comfortable * ...... LOL...LOL..
topaz{Rast's_girl} 19:25:58 CST
she can explain if the uncomfort is because of her restrictions, what they are respectfully, and make sure no matter what the issue is, C&P it all!
always be polite and respectful, and a girl can always beg to be released due to RT, and then send the C&P to her Master(s)
amira{GS} 19:26:18 CST
but can a girl actually leave the situation without fear of reprisal Mistress?
lara{Zor} 19:26:40 CST
if this ones Master is online, she tells Him what is going on, if not, she does her best to get through it and let her Master know by C&P to Him
~Mariposa~ 19:26:59 CST
I wouldn't have a clue to what You might be referring Rollo.
but I agree with Laroona, ultimately it is the girls owners who best can protect her, hopefully and clarify the situation with the evil one.
Laroona_Scribe 19:27:24 CST
amira I would assume that it would be up to a girls owner(s) to decide that *S*
galah{GS~FG} 19:28:43 CST
i remember wayyyyyyyyyyyy back there was a slave class that covered possible uncomfortable situations, okay...for an example, if a girl was really NOT comfortable with anal sex (either vt or rt), should she just deal with it anyway, or does she have another option? remember, this is only an example...but really, what options does a slave have in such situations?
amira{GS} 19:28:45 CST
there is a fine line
~hearing many suggestions~
does a girl just blink and ~fake it~ to get through it, or does she leave the situation and have to worry about being disrespectful and being punished for that?
Rollo_the_Ax 19:29:01 CST
Okay to stop making jokes about this and answer it as best as I can..... Thereis and always has been the 2 sides of this ....or any question like it in on-line Gor..... 1. The * Gorean * concept would be that whatever a Master wants, he takes if not offered freely..... that is all well and good in theory..... but in practice, it depends on MANY different factors......
galah{GS~FG} 19:30:22 CST
but that is where the problem lies, is the girl suppose to deal with such discomfort or should she leave? the girls Masters are not there at the moment to protect her, and yet a slave isn't to make decisions on her own
Xertog 19:31:49 CST
I know it has been said but I will repeat it to emphasize it. C&P it!! C&P anything you think may be wrong.
Laroona_Scribe 19:32:04 CST
even though it is online as Captain Rollo has stated there is that fine line of what is acceptable and what is not.... such as actual damage.... if I understand correctly NO GS slave can be damaged by another... and if this is correct then she would be able to flee the situation *S*
Rollo_the_Ax 19:32:57 CST
If the girl is NOT owned by the master trying to make her do * things * she doesn’t want to, or if he is harming her in any way .....then she has the duty to look out for her owners property by saving herself..... kind of a * loop hole * in practice in MY opinion.....
galah{GS~FG} 19:33:06 CST
the answer is always going to be to let the girls Master deal with it, but the girl might already have gone through this bad physical, mental and emotional abuse by that time, it could leave a girl wrecked for life
Laroona_Scribe 19:33:30 CST
Xertog wise words
even if the C&P is not needed... slaves do have it *S*
amira{GS} 19:34:34 CST
~nods and listens~
ok so say if for instance a girl is in the Tavern a Master perhaps Patron perhaps not comes in and decides for what ever reason He
wishes to spank said slave. she on the to her had finds this distasteful. and especially in public
does she plead a R/T?
galah{GS~FG} 19:34:50 CST
in all situations, CYA!!!!!
galah{GS~FG} 19:36:22 CST
tooo often, gor is mistaken as being bdsm, and its just not the case.....bdsm enjoy the whip, gorean slaves fear it
amira{GS} 19:37:44 CST
exactly gal , and as in this girls prior example, even something as simple as a spanking, while appropriate in BDSM, may be perceived as punishment in Gor
Rollo_the_Ax 19:38:02 CST
amira...to answer your question..... EVERY animal has a natural * fight or flight* instinct..... in this type of case, the girl would have to make her own judgment call as to if she would rather feel the violation of whatever * act * she is being forced to do or suffer, or if she thinks she can plead her case to her owner and hope that he understands... I guess she could be whipped if the master thought she had done wrong...but the question remains... what is worse, a POSSIBLE whipping or a certain violation ???
Laroona_Scribe 19:38:12 CST
amira each situation must be judged on it's merits (so to speak)
personally if I was uncomfortable (and some do have RT hang-ups on actual physical violence) I would pull a RT ... but again that is me *S*
amira{GS} 19:39:24 CST
~laughs softly~
and sometimes those situations can be just downright embarrassing for the girl
galah{GS~FG} 19:39:47 CST
**claps for Master Rollos answer** that’s right, in such an awful situation that a girl don't feel like she could deal with mentally or emotionally, even being put to the post is a better option
topaz{Rast's_girl} 19:40:18 CST
agrees with Master Rollo!
as for GS slaves, none are allowed to harm them, so depends on if a girl feels she is being harmed, why we all say C&P everything!
and for other slaves, it may simply be her Master's restrictions not allowinganything physical, again, explain, C&P, and if necessary, LEAVE
Laroona_Scribe 19:40:35 CST
well said Captain Rollo *S*
amira{GS} 19:40:55 CST
~nods softly and agrees totally with Master Rollo and gal~
there are just times when a slave has to decide what is the worse of two evils, sometimes the post is the lesser of the two
galah{GS~FG} 19:42:15 CST
while on this subject, as this is kindda related....as the gs chain are to fully serve pledged patrons, and yet a very gorean Master comes out of the woodwork, he should be entitled to full service as that just might bring along more Masters, but then an HNG comes along and he wishes to cyber or whatever, how can a slave, being a slave, differentiate between without it coming out like she is making a decision about whom she will or whom she won't serve?
Laroona_Scribe 19:43:11 CST
what some cannot tell is there is a difference between Gor and BDSM
BDSM is consensual
Gor it is not...
but whippings in the alcoves for instance is not Gorean not is it consensual IMO
Rollo_the_Ax 19:43:46 CST
Lets speak frankly here folks... you ladies( slaves AND Free ) do NOT come here to Gor to be abused.... no own in their right mind does/would..... Too often * some * folks take it WAY too far, or are unstable to begin with..... THEY arethe aberrations...NOT the slave that is here for FUN, but NOT for abuse......
galah{GS~FG} 19:45:03 CST
but Mistress, even that is a grey area, for if a girl was not being pleasing in an alcove, then a Master would have the right to whip her into the proper submission, but there again, its for punishment, not for pleasure
Laroona_Scribe 19:45:42 CST
Claps for Captain Rollo well said Captain
we are here for gor and FUN ... *S*
amira{GS} 19:46:25 CST
and yet on the other hand Master Rollo
there are those that would argue, it is VT not real so no real harm can come, what some fail to realize that while perhaps there is no actual physical harm there are very real persons and very real emotions and hearts sitting at each keyboard, things can be said or done that can and will perhaps cause a reaction unforeseen
Laroona_Scribe 19:46:44 CST
oops galah what I meant to say thanks you said it…. it is for punishment not for his or her pleasure *S*
Grizzly 19:48:05 CST
Sooner or later,,, you turn into what you pretend to be.
So you had better be something you can live with,,,, On or off Line.
Rollo_the_Ax 19:48:43 CST
Too often, many men have * warped * concepts of what is enjoyable..... and for them to allow themselves to try and abuse not only a submissive woman, but their own common sense and do shit that is just plain screwed up, is NOT !!!!! being or showing that they are MASTERS.....it shows only that they can NOT control themselves.....
topaz{Rast's_girl} 19:48:55 CST
well put amira! *soft hugs*
as indeed there is a real person with real feelings sitting there, and to some who care deeply, and feel things deeply, it can be horrible!
galah{GS~FG} 19:49:19 CST
this will sound very funny, but it has happened....say a slave is in the alcove and the Master becomes suddenly submissive, then what’s a slave to do?
Rollo_the_Ax 19:50:31 CST
Grizzly is RIGHT !!!!! if you try to be a sick puppy in VT, them odds are you are one in RT.....
Laroona_Scribe 19:50:39 CST
I am sure every slave here when she was branded and whipped on entering GS as that is the Port Kar way .... fears a repeat of the whip.... in any form or situation
why? it is because even in VT one feels that whip and iron
amira{GS} 19:51:34 CST
~nods softly~
once again a very very touchy situation gal amira would have to say that she would definitely extricate her self as soon as possible
that Master would find little pleasure in this girl she has not one single Dominant bone in her lil body
alyena{GS} 19:53:04 CST
~listens to gal... and just.. well.. listens... not sure she can say what she'd say to that~
galah{GS~FG} 19:51:40 CST
hey alyena, i swear, it has happened....one was so bad that the Master curled into fetal position heheheheheee heheheheheheheeee wanting to be the slaves baby
Xertog 19:52:24 CST
Well galah you could call in a FW and tell Her you have boy for them.. LOL
Grizzly 19:52:57 CST
I would go off on anybody being abusive to a woman on or off Line.
amira{GS} 19:53:10 CST
~falls over laughing at Master Xertog~
wondering if Mistress Laroona would offer to stand in for the slaves in that situation
galah{GS~FG} 19:53:19 CST
and mind you, we are not talking about a HNG, this Master was a well known and strong Master in public heheheheheee
Rollo_the_Ax 19:53:59 CST
amira.....harm a body and it can heal...... harm a MIND and how long can it take to heal ?????? play slave/Master all you want.... as far as YOU want.....after that do what is right for YOU, and screw the rest of the world......
Laroona_Scribe 19:54:09 CST
Xertog you would allow me free reign on him? *laughing*
and it would not break any couching laws ?
amira{GS} 19:54:38 CST
~that would definitely shut amira up sis right after she picked her jaw up off the tiles~
wow..
Grizzly 19:54:50 CST
Some say mental abuse is worse then physical abuse,, ,because you can't see were you are Hurt at.
amira{GS} 19:55:45 CST
~listens to Master Rollo~ thank You Master for the wise words
she agrees completely the mind can be a fragile thing.
Rollo_the_Ax 19:56:00 CST
galah... if ANY * man * did so, I would question his mental state...... and the usefulness of the things hanging between his legs.....
galah{GS~FG} 19:56:05 CST
so true Master Grizzly....that is so very very true
Xertog 19:56:23 CST
I said a FW Laroona.. .. I didn't say 'you'. .LOL .. Aren't couching laws just in Ar?
Laroona_Scribe 19:57:30 CST
geesh Xertog you "spoil" any potential fun *pouts*
galah{GS~FG} 19:58:00 CST
**popping this one back in again to see if it also can be dealt with**
while on this subject, as this is kindda related....as the gs chain are to fully serve pledged patrons, and yet a very gorean Master comes out of the woodwork, he should be entitled to full service as that just might bring along more Masters, but then an HNG comes along and he wishes to cyber or whatever, how can a slave, being a slave, differentiate between without it coming out like she is making a decision about whom she will or whom she won't serve?
Laroona_Scribe 19:58:01 CST
Grizzly I agree 100% with you *S*
amira{GS} 19:58:18 CST
ok so this seems to be a god follow up question
say if a girl has had a violent encounter with a Master or ... one as gal has offered can a slave in all good conscious avoid that Master?
Grizzly 19:58:27 CST
galah,,,one of My ex's was mentaly abusive.
I had to take it for a short time, because I would'nt hit her,,,,But I had to wait for some money to come in before I could get the hell Outta there.Winter time in xxxxxxxx is'nt a good time to be Homeless.
(note from scribe xxxx removed the RT information)
Rollo_the_Ax 19:59:24 CST
There is a VAST difference between showing or being soft and kind when being intimate, and being weak and submissive... if you don't know where to draw the line, then you have problems.....in MY opinion.....
amira{GS} 20:00:20 CST
~her question kind of tying in with gals as well~
Grizzly 20:00:43 CST
Rollo,,,I think Most the slaves here that Know me would tell anyone I was soft & Kind wheather being intimate, or not.
galah{GS~FG} 20:00:56 CST
and gal is sure all that mental abuse was much worse than a bar fight? for you might end up with bruises and scrapes, but its over quickly and done with, mental abuse goes on and on and on
seafora~{EMERALD_FOREST} 20:01:34 CST
this slave would be beaten for purposely avoiding any Master
Grizzly 20:02:14 CST
galah,,,,I was screwed in their head for about 6 months after that. Would have been Much Nicer if I could have just smacked her upside the head & drove off. No car at the time though.
amira{GS} 20:02:35 CST
~tilts her head to seafora~
but surely you Master would not wish you to place yourself in a position that could be harmful sis?
Laroona_Scribe 20:02:48 CST
IN my years on Gor I have seen slaves being selective at whom they serve ..... so what would be new?
Grizzly 20:02:53 CST
sea,,,if the master was a serious asshole,,, you can always hide behind me.
seafora~{EMERALD_FOREST} 20:03:52 CST
my Master ...would only accept a C&P if she were in a bad situation
Laroona_Scribe 20:04:33 CST
seafora surely if you was in danger or damage (online) then I would assume he would expect you to avoid that Free until He sorted the Free or the issue out
alyena{GS} 20:04:53 CST
alyena thinks we're meaning after the initial bad situation has occurred... can a girl avoid Him in the future?
galah{GS~FG} 20:05:52 CST
but think about it Mistress....it does seem that slaves select whom they will serve and whom they won't, but its such a narrow rope to walk, for there are pledged Masters that are like HNG's, and there are unknown quantity of Masters that show up that are VERY gorean...its a big dilemma
Grizzly 20:05:59 CST
Or I could always hit him in the head with an axe.*EG*
amira{GS} 20:06:25 CST
nods softly~
exactly aly.
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Rollo_the_Ax 20:31:34 CST
LOL...LOL.. Oh SURE.... Rank should have power over order of alcoving ??? if the girl is already with another guy ???? What HORSE SHIT !!! "" Stop cyber screwing that guy and come cyber screw ME cause I am higher up the food chain ????? Sorry folks, but to THIS old dog, any guy that would pull THAT crap ain't worth has salt nor deserving of the position of authority entrusted to him......
seafora~{EMERALD_FOREST} 20:31:59 CST
it would seem to sea that if she had a make believe RTi then that would in essence be lying...and would go back to the emotions of the one behind the screen...is that right?
amira{GS} 20:32:02 CST
and of course there are ways of presenting ones self amira will absolutely admit to not giving a full description during a serve to an HNG as she would say to a Captain or a Pledged Patron of the Tavern
galah{GS~FG} 20:33:17 CST
you will defiantly find this a problem more at the Inn at poolside amira than you will here in gs....when gs was at poolside, it was a big problem
Laroona_Scribe 20:33:23 CST
LOL they could always wander into the Piazza and hope that the old FW will get them a drink LOL or serve themselves as how often do we see when one person is in others soon enter *S*
amira{GS} 20:33:44 CST
Master Rollo amira didnt mean it that way at all she meant from the initial serve.... if there were a Captain a Pledged and an HNG in the room.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:34:35 CST
Yes they do, Grizzly....in fact, when a man pledges to GS, he swears to defend GS and all those who call it Home from both outside and inside attack..... So protecting a slave from a visitor is really a part of the job......LOL..
Laroona_Scribe 20:36:15 CST
maybe have tickets and slave calls out
NEXT
*joking*
amira{GS} 20:36:48 CST
~giggling at Mistress Laroona~
aye Mistresss perhaps Council could attach them to the girls silks
Laroona_Scribe 20:37:33 CST
amira you saying there would be room for tickets on those scraps LOL
Grizzly 20:37:50 CST
Rollo,,,,Good. Course I'd have had a hard time keeping my mouth shut as a visitor too.*LOL*
amira{GS} 20:38:07 CST
~perhaps attach them to the girls ko~lars Mistress~
chuckling softly
Rollo_the_Ax 20:38:13 CST
okay, amira... in THAT case then yes, the order would make a big difference.....
galah{GS~FG} 20:38:17 CST
sticky tickets like post it notes stuck on our nipples heheheheheee that could be fun hehehehehee
amira{GS} 20:38:52 CST
~looks down ~
hm gal now that could be. ~fun~
Grizzly 20:39:47 CST
galah,,,,rule Number 1.
No Postets are to obscure the Nipple from View.*LOL*
amira{GS} 20:40:43 CST
~laughs softly~
how about long pieces of paper hanging from a girls backside gal ... they could just grab one as the girl passed by
Rollo_the_Ax 20:41:18 CST
LOL...LOL.. Got MY ass in hot water more than once for * stepping in * to help others being hassled only to have BOTH sides turn on Me, Grizzly..... also the worst fights I have ever had were for OTHER ppl and not myself.....LOL...LOL.. shit do happen, don't it ??? LOL...LOL
galah{GS~FG} 20:41:34 CST
heheheheheheee hehehehehee yes Master Grizzly then perhaps on the shaven snatch? heheheheheeeee that would be a fun place to put 'next'heheheheheheeheheheee
Laroona_Scribe 20:41:39 CST
makes a sign "GS production line"
Enter here
*laughing*
Grizzly 20:41:45 CST
amira,,,I Like that better,,,,,Im a tit & Leg man,,,not an ass man.*S*
Grizzly 20:43:19 CST
Rollo,,,,I think I'll ask the slave first before stepping in.*S* But ya,,,people can be funny.
amira{GS} 20:43:28 CST
~laughs softly~
careful gal next thing the girls know the newest brand a girl will wear will be on their arses
~next~
Grizzly 20:45:00 CST
Rollo,,,95% of the fights I have ever been in were for someone else.& I think they all Involved a woman some how.*LOL*
galah{GS~FG} 20:45:21 CST
heheheheheheee now there ya go, brilliant idea amira heheheheheheheee hehehehehehee
Laroona_Scribe 20:46:01 CST
why not have all the kajira called "next" LOl
Rollo_the_Ax 20:46:21 CST
LOL...LOL... You folks trying to turn GS into a sexual Mcdonalds ???? want a big ole sign out from... " 2 million served " with a counter hooked up ????? every time the alcove gets used the number goes up ??? LOL...I don't think so......LOL..LOL..
amira{GS} 20:46:40 CST
~shakes her head softly~
Aye Mistress Laroona
amira{GS} 20:47:16 CST
yep Master Rollo
and a Tarn Drive or fly through as well
Laroona_Scribe 20:48:49 CST
galah if ppl go to "chats" on the drop down we are #5 *S*
Rollo_the_Ax 20:52:33 CST
safaa...... we are holding our weekly * forum * where everybody gets to speak their minds and ask questions, openly..... you are welcome to stay and take part.....
Rollo_the_Ax 20:59:16 CST
LOL...LOL... well, folks... shall we call it a night/day ???? That will at least make it easier for the scribes.....