FW IN TAVERN?
Rollo_the_Ax 19:41:24 CST
Okay.. our first topic seems to deal with something that happened a couple
of days ago.... ** we could talk about FW being allowed in the Tavern at any
time.. ** ??? I guess that we may as well try to cover this issue in at
least GENERAL terms ... okay ???
Ramses 19:44:29 CST
I'm not sure what happened the other night as I had left just after she
entered
Laroona 19:46:52 CST
I thought the rules were clear
and there has been several discussion on this topic
and Council relaxed the rules somewhat..
I also understand GS is a Paga Tavern and FW did not enter unless courting a
collar...
Ramses 19:47:07 CST
I am guessing the issue the issue then is ... should FW be allowed?
Elektra_Free_Woman 19:47:09 CST
I thought that FW weren't allowed in the tavern unless specifically invited
and granted "protection" for the duration of her protector's presence?
Zoran 19:47:10 CST
I have no problem with FW
I think all should own one
jk
no I have no problem and in most case I protect but when there mouth get
them out of line
well
it like I aklways say
you can do as you will but be ready for the reaction
Rollo_the_Ax 19:48:03 CST
I do not know all the details about this latest * problem * The rules do
make very clear that certain things must be done in set ways... and if not,
the FW is just hanging her rear end out there and to get it kicked... so to
speak......
Marie 19:48:38 CST
that was My understanding as well Laroona...no FW in the tavern..*shaking my
head*..
ebi{HoK} 19:48:50 CST
~worries her lower lip gently remembering the events~
agreeing with Mistress Laroona, there is a right and a wrong way to go about
things
Laroona 19:49:02 CST
Elektra only by invite of a Current Captain and or certain events, such as
Festivals etc...
not a protector persay *S*
jessenia{Rm} 19:49:44 CST
if i may...
i think the reason she came was because she had been in the Piazza..and all
the girls were in the Tavern.... as a dance had been taking place... but no
one had gone to serve in the Piazza
Zoran 19:50:17 CST
and I ask the Fw in this room to mouth off to Master what would you think
would happen next?
and if any one has figure out I was involed in this incedent
Elektra_Free_Woman 19:50:20 CST
~*nods quietly*~
I understand, Laroona. ~*smiles*~ I don't feel very comfortable in the
tavern and can't imagine why any FW would go there unless it was to witness
a particular event.
Kentucky 19:50:22 CST
I thought We could only enter during festivals, forum days...
~akeria~ 19:50:34 CST
is that not why the Piazza was constructed? a place for FW
Marie 19:50:40 CST
I don't think the reason really matters jessenia...if a Captain didn't
invite her in, and offer protection, she shouldn't be in there, period!
Laroona 19:50:49 CST
Zoran what no teasing you any more (joshing)
LadySissy 19:51:04 CST
that is still No excuse to invite herself to the Tavern jessenia
Zoran 19:51:26 CST
I have no problem with that jess but when one try to get smart with a Master
well then that is diffrent
Laroona 19:52:26 CST
akeria my understanding is it was not only for FW
but for newly collared slaves,,, aka white silks
and or observing
and or those who want a safe place to r/p
felidae{GS} 19:52:31 CST
isn't a FW supposed to whisper to a slave and ask her availability...??? if
she is serving...then ask another to come to the Piazza to serve...???
her finely arced brow rising further in query
ebi{HoK} 19:52:36 CST
~i believe much of the happenings could have been avoided however in ebi's
observation She seemed to be hell bent on creating a scene,
and
got one
Zoran 19:52:37 CST
lol Laroona teasing is one thing but disrespect is another
Xertog 19:53:15 CST
These are the rules are they are now:
11. All FW will be allowed in the tavern on the day of a forum, and to
witness certain events.
These events are: kolarings, fights (not spars), special announcements by
any Captain, special holiday events, or by invitation of any
Current GS Captain;
http://www.angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/gsinfo/short-rules.html
jessenia{Rm} 19:53:23 CST
please understand.. jesse isn't trying to give it reason.. just stating that
was her reason... just trying to more explain what happened..... she's well
aware that she shouldn't have entered no matter what
Zoran 19:53:44 CST
I agree with ebi she wanted something to happen and it did
Zoran 19:54:50 CST
and like I said she entered then mouthed off
jessenia{Rm} 19:55:01 CST
and i most definately agree with You Master Zoran.. her behavoir and
attitude to You was most rude.....
Ramses 19:55:08 CST
She did come in with chip on her shoulder
I have no idea if she tried to whisper Sandman who was there ..to get some
attention drawn to the Piazza ...or to ask to come in
Rollo_the_Ax 19:55:31 CST
Okay.... a * personal * observation here... and let me say right up front
that this is my * PERSONAL * opinion..... It doesn't matter if it is a FW
trying to * push * the envelope a bit, or a slave acting * bitchey * or some
guy puffing his chest out that bit too far..... We could ALL get along
better and a funner time, if everybody remembered to act with RESPECT to
others and remember to GIVE as much as they expect to recieve.... and if
they do not, then they deserve NO respect themselves....
Laroona 19:56:06 CST
well I know I will not enter unless invited by a Captain or for special
occasions
and heck there are times I sat alone in Piazza
so I either whisper slaves if they are busy... or I leave..
after all we get told often Gor is a Man's World
Zoran 19:56:21 CST
and most would say I am easing going but there is a point it can not be
tolerated
MA_s_gemm 19:56:35 CST 75.40.15.246
jag is filled with problems because of FW in the Taverns and other such
places where they don't belong ... mouthing off and trying (and succeeding)
in running the show...
this one commends the Masters of GS for taking a stand on this growing
problem ...
** goes back to nibbling on her finger **
caitlin 19:56:47 CST
it was beyond disrespect She was Taunting a FM to try to do something to Her
and laughing at the FM present
Laroona 19:57:03 CST
Respect is earnt and is not a given
ebi{HoK} 19:57:48 CST
~listens to Master Rollo and nods her head in agreement~
Respect is a two way street,
The_Skullsplitter 19:59:52 CST
To Me....
This sounds like a problem that should be addressed by the Council, and any
punishment deemed, to be handed out by the Council.
This being dicussed in a forum is simply leading to a Bitch Fest. If there
has been a complaint made, that should be sufficient grounds enough for the
Council to act. If no complaint has been made, then that is the fault of
those present, and should not be a knife in the back topic.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:00:30 CST
As far as I can see from what has been said about how things happened... the
FW in question did NOT act in a proper way nor follow the set rules.... if
invited into to any place, it is okay to enter... but you do NOT walk in the
front door and THEN try to get somebody to validate your presence... be it a
Gorean tavern, or any RT place that restricts enterence for whatever
reason......
Ramses 20:00:56 CST
I was about to say the same thing as Skullspliter
She screwed up
deserves punishment
so what is the issue here?
Kentucky 20:01:13 CST
I think the problem the other night would not have been prevented even if
the rules stated FW were not allowed in at all.What I am seeing is an
Individual Who wanted to start something and rules would not have stopped
Her
jessenia{Rm} 20:01:33 CST
if jesse may offer just one thing..
if FW were to be allowed to enter the Tavern whenever they wish... i think
they should be expected to deal with whatever they see there.... i dont
think the slaves should change their behavior in the Tavern if they do come
in.. of course.. a girl shouldn't serve a Mistress in nadu.. but... in
regards to the Men.. it's business as usual
Laroona 20:01:49 CST
I do not see or hear any name mentioned
it was not me
Laroona 20:03:31 CST
jesenia we expect and accept that when invited...
and heck if we do not want to read we ignore it LOL
Zoran 20:03:51 CST
I agree with Ramses and thorfin and I will say no more as I have talk with a
few of the captian already
sit back
leda{Ak} 20:04:13 CST
in leda's opinion, some slaves and maybe some FW in listenieng to the
conversation here, turn r/p into a r/t issue and will outright hurt people
hurt other real time because they do not understand role play !!!
Xertog 20:04:38 CST
JT the Council is discussing it. We have plenty of emails to sort through on
the subject.
felidae{GS} 20:06:03 CST
leda...smiling sardonically...so do Masters....she drawls slowly and with a
husky tone
Laroona 20:06:15 CST
and that goes for some FM too leda *smiles*
caitlin 20:06:35 CST
leda im sure your not talking about here but the INN in Poolside which is
also a OOC room .. this forum is for Gorean Shores
LadySissy 20:06:59 CST
leda don't think that all FW are bad because of the actions of a few
Rollo_the_Ax 20:07:02 CST
The only issue here is that the question was raised about FW being allowed
in the tavern.... if it is enough to say that when the rules that are set
are NOT followed, they FW in question is subject to whatever punishment is
found needing.... agreed ??????
Laroona 20:08:46 CST
I think the current situation although some do not like it suits GS
given it is a paga tavern
and FW do know their place *S*
well we try to LOL
akeria~ 20:07:21 CST
agreed
The_Skullsplitter 20:07:24 CST
AGREED.
Ramses 20:07:47 CST
Agreed
Zoran 20:09:17 CST
agreed
Laroona 20:09:36 CST
agreed
Rollo_the_Ax 20:11:15 CST
Basically, be it the actions of a FW in the GS tavern... or the actions of a
FW, a slave, or free Man in any room.... be it GS or the Inn in Poolside, or
ANYWHERE else..... if you do NOT show others RESPECT, you have NO RIGHT to
expect such in return.... okay ????
felidae{GS} 20:11:49 CST
agreed...she purrs with a nod upon akeria's shoulder
Wwe are in Port Kar...a den of Pirates and Thieves amongst others...of
course the Taverns are circumspect for FW...that is the idea...
A FC & Power?
Rollo_the_Ax 20:13:27 CST
This is the next topic that has been asked.... **
I have a question. It is said in the books that, "In the north, a Jarl's
woman has much power."
Do you think this is true, or is the Jarl's woman's power only a reflection
of the respect the Jarl's men have for the Jarl?
While it is true that a Jarl's woman has many duties and responsibilities, I
do not personally think that any man is going to obey a woman on Gor unless
it is out of respect for her man. ** ????????????
~akeria~ 20:14:45 CST
akeria believes that tis only a reflection of the respect that the Woman has
for her Jarl..
Rollo_the_Ax 20:15:27 CST
In answer to this question, I think that it must be understood that even in
John Normans books, when he used Earth cultures as models for Gorean ones,
that he tried to stay very close to how they worked on Earth...
Kentucky 20:16:45 CST
*nods* I would think any power She has directly reflects upon Her Man,if He
were not respected, What Man is gonna listen to Her?
Laroona 20:17:06 CST
Please for the sake of the scribes keep greetings and action posts to
whispers
thanks
Rollo_the_Ax 20:17:27 CST
In old Viking or Nordic culture, the role of women was seen quite
differently than in other cultures... women could own property... they could
own or run busnesses... in many other cultures this was not the case......
Ramses 20:17:55 CST
please keep the non-topical conversation to a miniumum as the scribes have a
difficult enough job as it is
kelsey_HoT_ 20:18:02 CST 66.21.139.146
I think it has alot to do with the respect the men have for both the Jarl,
and the Woman that he claims, you can respect the woman and not the man at
times, no offense meant by that. It is not saying she has power over the
land, only that she is in charge of a few things. She invites company to her
Man's home, she is in charge of the proceedings in His home, and she is
given some leway in the rules that are enforced on his land. *tosses in two
cents if it's alright*
~segen~{Sg}_pierced_pet 20:18:15 CST
i would think they have respect for her as a FW (as it's well known that FM
of Gor tolerate more from a FW)...but i do not belive they would necessarily
"Obey" Her...i think she'd still have to remember that it is a Man's world,
although most FW (even in the books) sort of forgot that they were free by
Man's mercy until they wound up enslaved.
Laroona 20:18:28 CST
What Gorean Man listens to any FW?
And power would only go as far as running the houshold as I see it...
Elektra_Free_Woman 20:19:06 CST
I agree with Kentucky. I have been in a couple of arguments over this exact
topic. Why would a man choose to obey a FW, even if she is a Jarl's woman?
My feeling is that the only reason would be because the men respected her
man and deferred to her only because of that respect.
felidae{GS} 20:19:45 CST
whispering....
well said segen...well said indeed...
nodding...having tried to form the same idea
Orion 20:20:05 CST
In the North, the Jarl's women is giving power with his home and as such she
is over the slaves and the men of his home. Over the Free Men, NEVER. She is
over the thralls and bonds that hehas there. But it must also be remembered
that in the North, YOU are a guest within a Jarl's Lodge and as such are
ecpected to act in accordence. By this, you would not just walk into
someones house and kick their dog, beat their kids, and rape their wife. You
would show their home respect and that means even his wife (or in this case
his woman) as she has been given rein and power over his home if he is not
there at the time.
The_Skullsplitter 20:21:19 CST
~Chuckles hearing the Topic~
A woman was only as powerful as her Jarl permitted. Out of the respect the
Jarl had from his Men, the Woman indeed had a voice. However, unlike how the
perception online is given, many Men can simply view this as "nagging" and
often a "yes yes" response is easier because the woman is not a threat.
Tolerance, and patience, are two elements a Man needs to Master a slave, so
why can he not give it to a woman also? Only when a Man is so insecure and
considers a woman a threat does he then go threat and collar happy. In My
opinion, Free Women of Gor should be given a degree of respect, it is just
IF and WHEN they cross the line where respect is lost, should that
permittance of freedom be reminded upon her, and should that reminder be
ignored... well, we all know what happened to Jarl Svein Bluetooth's woman
when she went too far... no doubt she is still chained to his Chair.
Xertog 20:22:05 CST
The culture of Torvladsland has some differences from the other areas of Gor
as does Port Kar. I don't think there way of doing things should be an issue
for us.
felidae{GS} 20:22:06 CST
please excuse fel for the interruption...but Wwe are in Port Kar...a totally
different set of rules going on here...a completely different region with
it's own guidelines....????
Rollo_the_Ax 20:22:30 CST
But I feel that it is also valid to say that in THIS case or in responce to
this question about the quote shown... that YES... the wife or woman of a
Jarl would ONLY have as much power or station as was demanded for her by the
Jarl, or was given her by others in an attempt to honor their Jarl.... she
would still be subject to the will and whim of her man...... HE would set
her limits as HE saw fit....
ebi{HoK} 20:25:23 CST
~it has always been ebi's understanding that she as slave gives respect to
FM and FW, and acts accordingly,
but say if her Master had an FC
~knowing her Masters penchant for kolaring Free Women and the likelihood of
that ever happening~
in His abscence would She then not be seen as the ~Head~ of the House in His
abscence?
Elektra_Free_Woman 20:26:13 CST
I have heard the same argument said in defense of the way some wagon FW act.
To me, MAN trumps woman each and every time on Gor.
~*said quietly*~
Elektra_Free_Woman 20:27:40 CST
~*laughing*~
((And seriously folks, I know as a Panther Girl I am not supposed to accord
men respect but I really was stumped that anybody could think that women
have power over men on Gor.))
Rollo_the_Ax 20:28:41 CST
felidae... nobody has said that this is how things work in GS or Port
Kar.... the question was asked about * how does it work, or should it work *
in Torvaldsland.... the GS forum is open for ALL and does not only have to
deal with GS issues....okay ??
Laroona 20:29:03 CST
ebi I agree, I thought slaves should respect show respect Free no matter who
they are when in a proper gorean enviornment *S*
ebi{HoK} 20:29:55 CST
~chuckles softly~
SOme make it harder than Others Mistress Laroona although out of respect for
her Master ebi tries hard to act in a proper manner
felidae{GS} 20:30:17 CST
nodding to the Mistress Elektra...as an ex Panther she accords the Masters
with the utmost respect and obedience above Any...her attitude adjusted to
the Masters trumping All...
felidae{GS} 20:31:37 CST
tipping Him a respectful nod...yes Master...straightening her stance...
Elektra_Free_Woman 20:32:06 CST
~*says softly*~
I have not always been a Panther Girl and I admit that after I became a FC,
then a bond maid to a Torvie, I didn't always accord men of Gor respect. I
learned...and that understanding does affect the way I rp my character.
kelsey_HoT_ 20:34:01 CST 66.21.139.146
I think given the general culture of Gor, all inclusive, Torvalslanders more
perhaps, even free men on their own accord, alot a certain amount due to
free woman because she has earned enough to keep her station
Kentucky 20:35:20 CST
*nods to kelsey* yes, if She earns the respect
Rollo_the_Ax 20:35:23 CST
folks.... the books have many, many examples of women * getting away * with
many things... the wagon people, the Alars, the Tatrix and her followers....
hell, even the daughter of Ubars got * mouthy * at times and where not
instantly enslaved...... each case and each instance had to be taken at its
face value...... but yes, in almost every case in the end, the women ended
up in chains.... LOL...LOL... Such is LIFE on Gor.. right ???
Elektra_Free_Woman 20:36:36 CST
~*Nods quietly*~
Yes, Captain Rollo. You speak the truth.
kelsey_HoT_ 20:37:01 CST 66.21.139.146
*Smiles to Mistress Kentucky* Exactly, free women are their own person.
LadySissy 20:38:06 CST
again I think it all falls back on Respect
Elektra_Free_Woman 20:38:27 CST
Free Women are their own person, it is true. It is also true that unless we
toe the line and watch our behavior, we can be collared quicker than one can
blink an eye.
leda{Ak} 20:39:00 CST
leda enjoys Master Rollo's and Jarl Thorfinn interpretations ...*smiles
warmly to Them both*
Laroona 20:39:23 CST
I think it is also how she carries herself and acts among the Gorean
Males...
LadySissy 20:40:44 CST
meaning Laroona?
kelsey_HoT_ 20:41:19 CST 66.21.139.146
*Nods to Mistress Elektra*
Aye indeed, it is a fine line that you must walk. I am glad that there are
some men that do not jump to that as the first resort
Laroona 20:42:05 CST
Sissy meaning how she speaks, acts etc..
if she is mouthy it is up to the Males..if she acts slave like it is up to
the males
bottom line is how ever a FW or FC acts it is up to the males
leda{Ak} 20:42:17 CST
*thinking She might look the part and dress the part but if Her mouth does
not speak the part just like a slave well enough said ...giggles*
Rollo_the_Ax 20:42:28 CST
It seems to ME that many of you are missing a point that I learned long ago
in the military.... there are levels of RESPECT, and they do NOT always need
to be nor should they ALWAYS be equal.... to explain... every Officer, by
the fact that he IS an officer must be called SIR ..... it may make your
mouth taste bad to say it, but by right of rank, he is due it...... now as
for REAL officers...ones that a man is willing to follow and serve... the
title SIR falls off the tongue with no effort and comes as natural as
breathing.... * TRUE * RESPECT is given where it is due
Kentucky 20:43:52 CST
well put Captian
MA_s_gemm 20:43:57 CST 75.40.15.246
Master Rollo -
it's one thing if the incidence happens occasionally .. it can be chalked up
to a "bad day" or "whatever" .. but if it's continual, then it can't be
ignored ... is that what You mean too?
caitlin 20:45:17 CST
exactly the same thing could be said about some Masters to couldnt it leda
Elektra_Free_Woman 20:45:22 CST
Well said, Captain Rollo! ~*smiles*~
felidae{GS} 20:45:35 CST
leda fel knows from experience the same could be said for a slave in a
relative way...
kelsey_HoT_ 20:45:48 CST 66.21.139.146
nods again hearing Master Rollo*
Aye Master, very true. If I may be so bold, I don't think that's the
intention of some comments. Personally, I mean that a woman earns hers on
her own, her own actions dictate how a man will treat her, or refuse to
treat her as the case may be. The question posed made it seem as if a woman
was only given the 'control' and respect that her significant other deemed
to allow her. And while on a most basic of level this is VERY true, the
culter surrounding the station alotted to men and women alike allowed for
each to earn their own place and their own respect, with of course the men
being the last say in all things. I dare to assume a man has better things
to do than babysit his slaves and woman, if I may. Each case in it's own for
it's value like you said...if that was you...
leda{Ak} 20:47:50 CST
never the less it seems to leda either true or not there should be much
RESPECT being shown in r/p and in leda's opinion it would carry over to and
even more importanltly in real time too !!
Laroona 20:49:31 CST
leda get it 'respect is earnt and not a given and one cannot force respect
onto any even in r/p the person behind the screen does not have to respect
the person
RT does NOT enter into VT
Laroona 20:50:52 CST
If I see the local cop walking down the street I do not need respect the man
but I respect his job
felidae{GS} 20:51:31 CST
yes Mistress Laroona...eyes of darkness cast to leda...
respect is given to a certain point to Masters...that is the way...but He
earns far more...
as for RT...fel has no clue how that enters into the picture...
ebi{HoK} 20:52:05 CST
~speaks up quietly~
for many it seems as if respect is gauged by who carries the biger stick or
who gets in the last word
RT should have no bearing on VT as far as the respect shown in a Gorean Role
Play rule although ebi has had the good fortune and at times the not so good
fortune to get to know a few RT as well~
however,
it seems that One simply throwing His or Her weight around does not
automatically garner Him or Her respect. it is more the way they handle
their RP and their personalities that matters
kelsey_HoT_ 20:53:12 CST 66.21.139.146
slaves in vt, while in rp, owe all respect to a free man, r/t and his
actions aside. It is not up to her to decide what or how much respect he is
given, free women have a little more say and can simply not interact with
him if he is found lacking to a social standard.
leda{Ak} 20:53:19 CST
Mistress Laroona, with all due respect, leda is allowed her opinion here she
thinks is that not right ?
kelsey_HoT_ 20:53:43 CST 66.21.139.146
*whispers...you just don't have to like it r/t lol*
Rollo_the_Ax 20:54:29 CST
gemm... in answer to your question... yes, everybody makes a mistake now and
then... some of us more often than others.... the level of those mistakes
and how they came about sets the limits of how we are each seen...... in
essence, even the greatest warrior or most honored political figure is ONLY
as good as his last battle or his latest effort to HELP the people....... a
LIFETIME of good, can be undone with one cowardly act or one under the table
deal...... Okay ??????
Elektra_Free_Woman 20:54:30 CST
Well said, ebi.
~*smiles*~
Often times, I think, it's the people who try to throw their weight around
that don't get the respect they think they deserve.
~*grins*~
felidae{GS} 20:54:50 CST
chuckling at kelsey...
true sweetling...so true....
Laroona 20:55:28 CST
as we all are leda as we all are *S*
I think you deviate a tad from the topic mixing RT into VT *smiles*'
ebi{HoK} 20:58:03 CST
~facts are facts~
we may not necessarily LIKE all the people we interact with in RP but as
soon as any one of Us sign in under our characters role we assume that role
and the rules of said role,
RT not withstanding a slave should act as slave. ZFree WOmen should act as
Free WOmen and Free Men will act as Free Men, and accept the consequences of
our virtual behavior, or at times the benefits
~sultry lil grin~
WHO DECIDES WHO IS A GOREAN MALE?
{KUURUS}'silks~RESTRICTED 20:56:51 CST
maybe a silly question but
'WHO' decides who is Gorean Male....?
Deirdre 20:58:16 CST
*looking questioningly at silks*
Uhmmm.......maybe I am naive.....or old-fashioned, sweetie.....but if a Man
says that He is a Gorean Male, I just assume that He is a Gorean Male.
*shrugging
{KUURUS}'silks~RESTRICTED 20:58:43 CST
when One decides to enter the realm of gor n take on a character are they
then a gorean male....and deserving of respect?
or do others around need to approve of behavior before 'one' is concidered
gorean?
Laroona 21:00:11 CST
I thought a Gorean's mans was judged by his peers as to how gorean he was
Like a newbie is not going to be as gorean say as one who has been around
for years *S*
Zoran 21:00:15 CST
I agree with Deidre
If Male is Gor Man
now is he good at it that another question lol
TARNSMAN_CAPTAIN_SLAVE_MASTER 21:00:29 CST
*every gorean male is due respect silks,whether they have been here for a
day or ten years?*
kassiˆslaveˆ 21:00:45 CST
~tilts her head slightly as she speaks softly~
One is Gorean through One's behavior, often actions speak louder than words
and its through a combination of both that makes One Gorean. I've always
allowed Free the benifit of the doubt, as to who they are/say they are,
until they prove otherwise...so if He says He is Man..then I must trust that
He is not lying and is Man.
kelsey_HoT_ 21:01:56 CST 66.21.139.146
ilks, it depends upon the station of those he interacts with. In my humble
opinion, slaves defer all respect, whether or not he is deserving, is
irrelevant. Free woman are alotted enough via social rules to ignore
politely and thus limit the man's interaction to that degree. As far as free
men, they will see to it how the man survives or lack there of. Then again,
you get into the whole, what is Gorean debate. If he is acting per the
books, but rude and obnoxious, he's still Gorean, the
level of how good of a Gorean he is, is left undecided for each to make up
according to their given position
TARNSMAN_CAPTAIN_SLAVE_MASTER 21:02:12 CST
*yep akeria,but if you do have doubts on the person,you can always log out
and contact the council on said person so then We can look into Him?*
Rollo_the_Ax 21:03:46 CST
LOL.. LOL... My answer may seem simplistic, silks... but each and every
person * decides * or sets their OWN limits here in on-line Gor...... any
man can call himself a Master or warrior, or assassin.... in the end, their
OWN actions and how they act and react with others will in the end set just
how they are accepted or seen.......
kassiˆslaveˆ 21:03:53 CST
For an example: When a Man is banned from Gorean Shores for different
reasons?
Is this what you mean, silks?
The_Skullsplitter 21:04:28 CST
If there is a dick, chances are, you got a male.
If there is no dick, chances are, you got a female.
But seriously, it is up to yourself really, by what you consider to be
Gorean and what is not Gorean.
This does not mean you can go around as a slave and treat some people like
shit just because you do not believe them Gorean. slaves on Gor had their
place, most of them had to do a lot of shitty things I would imagine, and
serving men that REPULSED them was one of them, and that happens a lot on
Gor, when a slave has to serve someone whom to them, is weak, but as a slave
should, they do so without question or hesitation, despite their innermost
feelings.
What is Gorean depends entirely on your own Gorean knowledge and experience.
What you deem Gorean, might not be accurate according to another persons
view however, so take that also into consideration.
Deirdre 21:05:33 CST
silks.....*smiling at her*........honey........As a FW in Gor, I try very
hard to be polite and respectful to any Gorean Man that I meet even if I
feel in My heart that He is a HNG. Though, if He is openly rude to Me.....as
has been the case in a very few incidents, I have the option of either
ignoring Him (as I should) or speaking to Him sharply (as I have been known
to in the past). But truly it is not My "call" as to whether He is Gorean or
not. If He is in GS, to Me He is Gorean.
TARNSMAN_CAPTAIN_SLAVE_MASTER 21:05:46 CST
*I thought you meant here akeria,no we have no control over at the inn,but
it is easy enough to log out without an explanation to the person*
kelsey_HoT_ 21:06:36 CST 66.21.139.146
*Chuckles at her Jarl*
Ahh, and that about sums it up with the 'dick' thing? Care to show me
exactly if that there is true Jarl?
Though, that last part about the application to each individual's
interpretation of Gorean, is all to correct.
{KUURUS}'silks~RESTRICTED 21:06:39 CST
no kassi...silks has no agenda behind her question...it was just a
thought....if silks decided one day to become a FW does that mean i suddenly
deserve all the respect of others
kassiˆslaveˆ 21:07:37 CST
Ohhh, no I didn't mean that you had an agenda..I thought that was what you
meant by your question
{KUURUS}'silks~RESTRICTED 21:08:03 CST
if a Man walks in one day n say i am a ????? merchant....and He treats all
like a miserable sot....does He deserve respect?
ebi{HoK} 21:08:28 CST
ebi as a slave on GOR will show respect to the Gorean Males and Females that
play that role
now
what happens on MSN
is
classified~
Laroona 21:08:36 CST
not if he abuses me or any of mine silks nup
LadySissy 21:09:08 CST
you will still have to earn the respect silks...
{KUURUS}'silks~RESTRICTED 21:09:32 CST
yes Mistress Deirdre....understood....
silks to think she understands now
*quietly kneels beside Lady Sissy*
kelsey_HoT_ 21:09:55 CST 66.21.139.146
silks, in my eyes, he might not deserve it, and if that is how he is acting
the free men of Gor will make his stay short and not so sweet, but it is
still the place of a slave girl to give it to him, regardless.
caitlin 21:10:09 CST
do believe that all these latest questions are regarding anything to do with
GS but the INN in poolside .... the INN is not strictly Goren it is more a
Gorean OOC room ..there are BDSM DOmmes and subs ...people that just want to
visit.... it is not a strictly Gorean room
Rollo_the_Ax 21:10:31 CST
just as any woman can call themselves a FW or slave.... how well they are
able to cary off the role is up to themselves.... My personal opinion is
that one can ONLY truly carry off their role play in a proper way, if they
stay TRUE to their real personality.... to * play * the part of a master if
you are truly a slave... or a FW if you are truly a slave.... or slave if
you are truly a FW... is to do just that.... PLAY at it.... make it a
game... one may as well go and play diddly winks instead of wasting your own
time, ot that of others ....
alika 21:10:51 CST
and should i respect a Man who kicks hot paga onto me because i didnt serve
Him slutty enough ?
TARNSMAN_CAPTAIN_SLAVE_MASTER 21:11:07 CST
*thats true caitlin,it is more of a stepping stone to the real gor,but it
seems some think it is the real gor S*
caitlin 21:12:08 CST
yes Master Forest they do and they abuse others for just wanting to visit OOC
alika 21:12:19 CST
over in the inn now not in GS
Zoran 21:12:28 CST
alika if he found it not pleaseing that is his choice
Rollo_the_Ax 21:12:40 CST
Okay folks.... we have run out of time again... I want to thank everybody
that came and took part ..... we will do it again next week... same place,
same time... okay ??????? LOL..