WHITE SILKS POSTING OOC ON BOARDS?
Rollo_the_Ax 19:19:15 CST
Okay.. how about this for our first topic ?? ** white silks can't travel, but some have been wondering if that included other gorean message boards as well? ** As many or most of them are OOC ( out of character )and as such are NOT direct role play issues, does that preclude even white silk slaves from posting there ???
Loki 19:20:18 CST
~pondering the question~
tayla{GS-w} 19:22:03 CST
being a white silk, tayla can't see how it could hurt anything as long as what the slave said wasn't disrespectful where it might fall on the ears of the Council by a angry person
Rollo_the_Ax 19:23:03 CST
As for my own * personal * opinion * ..... I see nothing wrong with anybody..slave or free voicing their opinion or having their say on any message board... as long as they keep it civil and respectful... free or slave ....
Loki 19:23:46 CST
I think it might be ok, as long as it is positive, Im a little confused as to the OOC, if they are still useing the GS name, the posts would most definitly need to be postive, as it is a reflection on Our home
galah{GS} 19:23:53 CST
but keep in mind tayla, that most white silks are very new to gor, and as such, do they always know what is appropriate to say and what not to say?
Laroona 19:23:57 CST
mmm ponders if one is not in character I cannot see an issue.... but then that is just my thoughts
tayla{GS-w} 19:26:01 CST
galah no they probably don't if they are new new
Rollo_the_Ax 19:26:12 CST
The * letter * of the law.. GS rules, that is, says that white silk slaves will not * travel *.... but to MY thinking, that means not entering any active * room * where they would have to use their * slave personna * ... to just read other boards, or even post on them, is NOT * traveling, in the true sense of the word or deed...
arianna19:26:18 CST
one would question how a white silk slave would know they existed. Initially you have to visit a site to get to the corks (then you can bookmark the site). However, if a post is respectful ari doesn't see why there would be a problem.
Deirdre 19:26:43 CST
I don't see any down side to a white silk posting on the boards. If comments are appropriate, what's the problem?
tayla{GS-w} 19:27:33 CST
Master Loki this one uses her rt name stephy on OOC boards but others at the sites know who she is in gor and who her Owners are.. so even in her rt name she'd have to be careful what she said
Loki 19:29:22 CST
Aye talya, twas My point~grin~
galah{GS} 19:31:03 CST
guess i have just seen to many say inappropriate stuff on boards, i trust you completely tayla, but i can't say that for everyone else
Rollo_the_Ax 19:31:15 CST
I see the point about how new slaves may not know yet what is okay and what is not.... So how about using the issue as just one more * training * aid ??? they will know that EVERYTHING they do will be watched and that they are responcible ... so why not what they might say in other places ??? if any issue is taken with what they say on a message board, they will LEARN from being punished for screwing up ???? No ????
arianna 19:32:34 CST
~*nodding in agreement with Master Rollo*~
Loki 19:33:54 CST
Aye~firm nod~ and the punishment?~chuckle~ j/k
tayla{GS-w} 19:33:58 CST
galah that is true , guess tayla has learned by being punished severely for her mouth to watch what she says even on a board when she's owned
arianna 19:34:37 CST
a white silk slave could add at the bottom of her post, that if any Free Person has an issue with what she has posted it can be directed to the Gorean Shores Council and leave the web address???
arianna 19:35:15 CST
that way the Free know where she is from and she can be delt with accordingly.
tayla{GS-w} 19:36:19 CST
maybe tayla is just dumb but she really doesn't see why the Council should be responsible for anything said on a OOC board but she knows some folks get cobs up their butts and look for any reason to complain
paris{GS} 19:36:41 CST
Good idea arianna....that way they can learn if there is any issue.
Rollo_the_Ax 19:37:15 CST
That is life, galah... you can't automatically punish everybody for the misconduct of a few.... the idea of * Free will * can't be suppressed.... it can only be HOPED that folks wil use their free will to be POSITVIE... but as you say.. far too often they let the dark side sway them...
galah{GS} 19:37:26 CST
thats a good idea arrianna, for its far to hard for the captains to go to all the boards to see what the slaves of GS might be saying
Laroona 19:37:39 CST
I still see no issue if one is OOC and uses his/her alternate name
as some are say members of poolside under one name and Gor under another ......
and the posts are non gorean specific
but if gorean specific then one should be IC .. just a thought *S*
Loki 19:38:13 CST
GS owned slaves shouldn't run amoke~nodding~
arianna 19:38:50 CST
~*nodding with Mistress Laroona*~
Laroona 19:39:04 CST
heck no slave should be permitted to run amok...
and same goes for Free IMO *S*
Loki 19:40:28 CST
Aye, Laroona, but We cant speak for personal slaves, twas the reason for My post..~grin~ you are most definitly correct though
Deirdre 19:42:16 CST
I think that the Free who own slaves that are running "amok" be made accountable for what Their slaves do. Personally, I think that's how it should be in the r/t world also.........in context of Parent/child.
galah{GS} 19:42:35 CST
also, not all use their real name on boards, some only go by one name regardless of where they go...so if they are using their slave name? is it a different rule then?
arianna 19:42:45 CST
if she is collered under a {GS} tag or a personal tag what she says reflects on her home and her Masters.
Loki 19:43:40 CST
Aye Dierdre~firm nod~ would be a great thing...
tayla{GS-w} 19:44:34 CST
why should it be a diffrent rule if the board is meant for non gorean topics and more rt topics, jokes, poems, ect?
Laroona 19:44:49 CST
hmmm good question galah.... *S*
I would consider if they are then at all times respectful posts as anything said does reflect back even stuff on GS boards *S*
Rollo_the_Ax 19:45:02 CST
LOL...LOL.. that idea has a double benefit .. if any girl says something wrong, we will find out about it, but it may also get others... from other sites wondering about GS, and so may bring a few to * visit * .... LOL...LOL... bums on seats, more ppl here, and maybe a few memberships for Gary M.... a win win situation.. LOL.
Loki 19:45:36 CST
id say Non'Gorean do as you please, Gorean, watch your tongue.....
arianna 19:45:51 CST
the slave name would reflect on the girls home and her Master/Mistress. if using an OOC name a girl may not necessarily put her tag or her gorean name there. How would anyone know where she was from or what slave she was. ari is sure there are many slave throughout the Gorean world who have the same rt name.
arianna 19:48:00 CST
~*laffin softly*~ see ari does have some good ideas at times, you cant ALWAYS see through her ears.
Rollo_the_Ax 19:51:54 CST
LOL...LOL.. a very correct, but not * politically correct * idea, Deirdre.... master/slave... parent/child... the actions of one have always been a reflection on the other.... If I remember correctly, Aristole once saw some children misbehaving, and instead of scoulding them, went to their fathers instead... the idea of * spare the rod and spoil the child * needs a rethink in todays society....
Deirdre 19:53:44 CST
*grinning at Rollo*
I've never been accused of being politically correct, Captain. Being a teacher, I deal with those kind of parents every day. But You know what........for some reason I don't have a problem with their children in My classroom. Strange phenomonen, huh? *chuckling*
Sandman_Bldr_Advisor 19:55:59 CST
in my humble opinnion I think the threat of punishment should be enough for the slaves ,, perhaps the SlaveMaster or trainers can make it clear in slave class that "misbehavior on other boards under the GS name = punishment when you are at GS"
Rollo_the_Ax 19:57:20 CST
Okay.. as for the question of this topic... it is generally accepted that there is no rule or such at this time, that prevents slaves...even white silks, from posting on message boards... even one in other sites... the ONLY condition is that they remain respectful at all times... if they mess up, they can expect to be punished...
We can only HOPE that any slave doing so will do so.... and hope for the best.... if they screw up, they can excpet the worst... nuff said ???
tayla{GS-w} 19:58:32 CST
~nodding softly at Jarl Rollo's words~
yes Jarl
Rollo_the_Ax 20:00:43 CST
LOL...LOL.. you are better than I, Deirdre... I would not make it as a teacher... I would either slap the shit out of some kid for playing up, or slap the shit out of the parent for NOT controling their child.... lose my job and end up in jail... LOL...LOL... in some cases though, it might almost be worth it....LOL..
Loki 20:00:46 CST
Aye Captain~firm nod~
Deirdre 20:02:53 CST
Rollo.........I have faced that temptation before.....*laughing hard*. I just keep telling Myself that sooner or later the parent will have to "reap what they have sewn"......and that I only have to get the child through that one year. I have to teach them. I have to try to love them......and hope that somehow along the year I will make a difference.
GS REPUTATION
Rollo_the_Ax 20:05:33 CST
Okay folks... are we done with that topic ??? if so, I would like to have a few words about the * problem * that happened a few day ago when Gorean issues were taken into a non gorean room......
Sandman_Bldr_Advisor 20:05:54 CST
listenning
paris{GS} 20:07:10 CST
Listens intently
KentuckyFW 20:07:08 CST 24.252.148.77
~nods,listening to everything being said
Rollo_the_Ax 20:08:28 CST
Now please understand that I am NOT here to point any fingers.. or use ANY names.... the time for that is done and gone.... what I would like to do here is to TRY and remind folks that no matter WHERE... in ANY site or room on-line.... the reputation or opinion of ALL goreans is often seen by others by the actions of only a FEW....
tayla{GS-w} 20:12:54 CST
~listening quietly~
Rollo_the_Ax 20:13:06 CST
We are * profiled * or associated every day... in RT and in VT... by what we do or how we look... skin color, clothes, hair style... is it wrong ??? HELL YES !!!! but it happens none the less... so the ONLY way we can combat this, or TRY to make things better, is to always strive to make OURSELVES the BEST example of whatever we are... the BEST Gorean.... the BEST person... the BEST bald guy, or bearded guy, or fat guy, or biker looking tee shirt and jeans guy... or slave, or Master, or candle stick maker...... understand ???????
The_Skullsplitter 20:14:43 CST
Aye Rollo, indeed.
tayla{GS-w} 20:16:11 CST
~nodding~
yes Jarl
Rollo_the_Ax 20:17:32 CST
We EACH choose to be where ever we are... be it in a gor room, or Poolside, or D+D room, or enchanted Forest, or what the hell ever.... RESPECT the rights of others, and DON'T take personal shit or non related shit to other places.... if it is Gorean, then BY GOD, keep it in GOR.... if it is pump house business, then keep it there...... it is so bloody simple that it is beyond Me WHY folks can't do so a simple thing ????????
The_Skullsplitter 20:21:49 CST
I do not think it will happen again, not involving any of our own, I think the realisation of what could be perceived by it happened after.
It does however put a few questions out for airing. shedding a new light so to speak, but given the circumstances I think that can wait for another week.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:22:29 CST
Everybody makes mistakes.... but every person here is an ADULT, and as such should have LEARNED from their mistakes by now...... Our lives are just like history... those that do NOT learn from their mistakes are cursed to repeat them...
Rollo_the_Ax 20:26:37 CST
Like I said, Thorfinn... I am not here now to point fingers or use names.... those that did wrong know it... it is the job of any Master/Mistress to deal with his/her slave if they make mistakes... I offered a blanket personal apology to Poolside for what happened.... what we MUST do now is see that it NEVER happens again....
Rollo_the_Ax 20:30:31 CST
The silence is deafening....LOL....LOL... anybody else have anything to say about this issue ???? if not, does anybody have another topic they want to discuss ???
The_Skullsplitter 20:30:44 CST
I saw that you did on their Boards Rollo, you beat Me to it.
~Grins~
And yes, I agree whole heartedly.
~Nods~
Sandman_Bldr_Advisor 20:31:51 CST
I think what you have said Rollo is clear tho some many not be here that need to hear it ,, hopefully any not present will read the info page
Phen 20:32:14 CST
Captain firstly if the Master is not of this Home the Council has no control over Him or His slaves Secondly does the Council have any juristriction over the Inn..
Rollo_the_Ax 20:34:04 CST
LOL...LOL... When it is all said and done, brother.... the guy at the top is the one that has to answer for what goes on.... My name is known in Poolside by many.. even those that do NOT know about Gor, as the * quote/unquote * Leader here in GS... The buck stops HERE......
The_Skullsplitter 20:34:45 CST
~Grunts as Phen brings up the start of the questions, having personally hoped to have avoided this tonight, but listens~
The_Skullsplitter 20:35:42 CST
Aye Rollo, true, but just know you have support here for you, I got your back brother.
tayla{GS-w} 20:37:20 CST
~whimpers thinking she'd like to have his front~
paris{GS} 20:40:06 CST
Pinches tayla....shooosh girl....grins you a ws
Rollo_the_Ax 20:41:00 CST
No.. the Council has no say over what happens in the Inn in Poolside.... and also, NO we have no real recourse over those who are NOT of GS... that none the less makes us any LESS guilty in the eyes of NON-Goreans... like I said before.. * Guilt by association *... is the watch word... not all that follow Isalm are terrorists.... not all that call themselves Christians act as such... not all people of different skin color than our own should be feared....
tayla{GS-w} 20:41:13 CST
~jumps at the pinch a bit startled~
ok girl will shoosh, but really he's got a great front
~haha
arianna 20:42:00 CST
~*grinning and thinking tayla needs a dose of cold water*~
Phen 20:44:40 CST
I understand that Captain but is there some way we can distance ourselves before the shit hits the fan so to speak*SS*
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 20:45:07 CST
*but We as the council can still have a few words in Their ear if need be Phen,if They take it fine if not then We can't do anything about it S*
~mira~{Ty} 20:45:33 CST
Mistress Phen...i don't think we even have "control" over those that have been banned. Unless i misunderstand, as long as they are paying members best we can do is ignore...
Rollo_the_Ax 20:45:48 CST
I guess that in a nut shell what I am TRYING to say is ** Worry about what YOU do and be willing to answer for your OWN actions... and DON'T be so preoccupied with what the other guy/gal does or doesn't do... SET the EXAMPLE, don't piss and whinge about how * the other guy * didn't.... YOU didn't hold a gun on them to MAKE them be assholes... they chose to do so...... MOVE ON ,and try to TEACH them the errors of their ways...... SOMETIMES it works...
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 20:45:59 CST
*the best way Phen is not reply or do anything to make it worse S*
arianna 20:46:34 CST
Gary is the only one who has the complete control, but there is only so much he can do. Damned if you do and damned if you dont.
~mira~{Ty} 20:48:02 CST
As this is Gary's dollar if you will...i can understand Him not wishing to take permanet actions to banned, but paid members..
Rollo_the_Ax 20:49:07 CST
LOL...LOL... Phen.... My * footwork * has never been all that great... in my whole life, I have never been able to duck quick enough to miss getting hit by at least * some * of the shit when it hits the fan...ANY fan.... so I have just learned to wear whatever hits me, try to wipe it off, and MOVE ON......
arianna 20:49:16 CST
yup, ari agrees with you mira.
Phen 20:50:10 CST
*LOL* Aye Captain Im not good at ducking and weaving either*SS*
arianna 20:50:51 CST
the only thing is when Gary does ban members even more shit hits the fan. friends of those banned kick up a stink ... like ari said, damned if you do, damned if you dont.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:52:03 CST
What EF and the others say is TRUE... the very BEST way to piss off troublemakers it to IGNORE THEM !!!!!! sooner or later they get sick and tired of doing it and they leave... the TFRICK is learning how to OUTLAST the bastards.... LOL..
~mira~{Ty} 20:53:53 CST
No one can make everyone happy. Not Gary and not Rollo, not the council...etc. i guess in the end it alwyas ends up to one's actions being of personal responsbility and integrity..
Phen 20:55:37 CST
*Smiling* That is what I told the slaves to do place them on ignore if I over stepped so be it only common sence to Me*SS*
Martigan 20:55:42 CST
Happiness comes from within, the actions of others can be limited if one chooses to limit them ~G~
Deirdre 20:55:46 CST
Well said, mira.......and so very true.
arianna 20:56:14 CST
AMEN to that mira!!!
Rollo_the_Ax 20:56:53 CST
Folks... Gary M can't be blamed for this shit... Come on... think about it... Poolside is his BUSINESS !!!!! He does the BEST he can to keep everybody HAPPY... but when push comes to shove, how willing would ANY of YOU be to get told... " Hey, turn done MONEY from this or that person ??? " Any of YOU want Me or others to decide just who YOU can do business with in RT ??? I am willing to bet dollars against dog turds that NONE of Y'all, or Myself would do so... so HOW can we ask Gary to do it instead ?????
Sandman_Bldr_Advisor 20:57:40 CST
nodding to mira well said girl
arianna 20:59:32 CST
ari thinks You took her wrong Master Rollo. she wasn't suggesting that, she was just stating that he was the one with total control (referring to the Inn and Poolside rooms) he is in a no win situation when it comes to this. The only people who can be held responsible are those people who cause the trouble and we can only hope that it stops.
Rollo_the_Ax 21:00:36 CST
BTW.. sorry for using the word * bastard * like I did.... I have been in Oz so long that I forget that HERE it is not an insult like it is in the USA... here in Oz even friends call each other * you silly bastard * and such.. I do remember that in the USA being called such is one of the ultimate insults.... Sorry folks....
~mira~{Ty} 21:02:13 CST
~whispers playfully to the Jarl~ mmm Master Rollo, it probably stopped being the "ulitmate of insults" about mmmmm 20 or so years ago? You're RIGHT on top of things here ~impish grin~
Rollo_the_Ax 21:02:28 CST
My words were not aimed at you, arianna.... as always, my thoughts were intended as a general statement...
Martigan 21:02:46 CST
~L~ same here in UK Rollo, can be used in friendship, probably best not to mention dome of the other ones ~L~
arianna 21:03:05 CST
*nodding* thank You Master Rollo.
Rollo_the_Ax 21:04:18 CST
LOL.. mira, it was 20 yrs ago that I moved from America to Oz... LOL.. LOL.. Old habits die hard... and old dogs such as Myself are hard to teach new tricks to.... LOL...
Laroona 21:04:42 CST
LOL Captain Rollo I can edit it out to xxxxxxx if you desire ,,,though IMO the term was fitting in the context of your statement ... as another ozzie LOL
~mira~{Ty} 21:05:41 CST
~playful grin~ Some of us like Your old tricks Jarl...
arianna 21:06:00 CST
*laffin* as an Aussie ari agrees with Mistress Laroona
Rollo_the_Ax 21:12:32 CST
Well folks... it looks like our time for todays/tonights forum has come to an end... I would like to thank everybody that has come and taken part... and I look forward to seeing y'all again next week....