Rollo_the_Ax 19:02:09 CST
Tal, greetings, and Hi there y'all...... LOL... Welcome to yet another GS forum.... It is time to start, so I will do so and be done with any more greetings....Okay ???? LOL...
Rollo_the_Ax 19:04:14 CST
I want to welcome everybody to this weeks forum..... the rules will be the same as always...... No more open greetings or * chit chat * so that it will be more easy for the scribes to keep the records.... so if ANYBODY wants to greet or just shoot the shit with somebody else ..... PLEASE do so in WHISPERS !!!!!
Rollo_the_Ax 19:09:53 CST
Okay, first off, I have been asked to remind EVERYBODY to VOTE for GS on the * Gorean Top 100 * place....LOL...we keep going back and forth between #1 and #2 .... so if you ain't voted yet...... just DO IT !!! Okay......LOL...LOL..
Rollo_the_Ax 19:11:54 CST
Anybody have a topic they feel needs discussed, or question answered ??? You know, easy stuff...like * why is there air *... * why is the sky blue * ... * how many grains of sand are there on all the beaches of the world * ????
Ostraka- Winner
Kyoto-GS_Slave_Master 19:36:49 CST
A quick announcement, if I may, before the forum get's back to speed, Rollo?
Rollo_the_Ax 19:37:18 CST
The floor is YOURS, brother...... go for it....
Kyoto-GS_Slave_Master 19:41:02 CST
Thank you, Rollo.
I stood and looked at the gathering crowd with a smile before motioning for fidget to rise.
Some may remember that prior to the board trouble, I posted the sale of ostraka to determine who will be the man lucky enough to open our fair, fidget.
In the confusion, I had fidget draw the tile and the number matches that held by...
I let the silence hold for an ehn before continuing...
Loki. After the forum, you will have the right to the girl's first use. Enjoy her.
fidget_{GS} 19:42:24 CST
~rising, keeping her lips held shut tightly so her heart doesn't leap out, hearing Master Loki's name, she raises her eyes, looking at him, a small crooked smile tilts her lips~
Loki 19:43:05 CST
~rising to My feet~
Tal Captain!
thank You, I will do My best~sly grin fills My face~
~sitting back down~
Rollo_the_Ax 19:43:11 CST
Tal, Webmaster.... that was quite some ride we had there....LOL...LOL...
Kyoto-GS_Slave_Master 19:43:45 CST
Grinning at the newly arrived man as I take a seat.
Tal Webmaster, you are well?
Loki 19:45:20 CST
Thank You all Free and beast~wide grin~
fidget ~eyeing the girl~ I will see you later
Webmaster: 19:49:14 CST
Tal Loki
Well all, I'm glad to see my clumsiness didnt clear the room any longer than it
did. My apologies.. .and assurance I'm done fiddling for the moment.
galah{GS~fg} 19:51:15 CST
have you seen that we have stayed number 1 for many many weeks now Master
Webbie? on that top 100
Rollo_the_Ax 19:51:18 CST
LOL..LOL.... Like I say all the time, Webmaster.... * SHIT Happens * ....LOL.. No harm, NO foul, nobody got hurt, so lets just move on and forget it......LOL...LOL...
galah{GS~fg} 19:53:01 CST
http://www.goreanforum.com/top/ heres the site, but you can't vote from here, you gotta go to the button
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA still number 1
Webmaster: 19:54:27 CST
*really*
galah I've been so preoccupied with RT lately.. I hadn't looked at the rankings in awhile. Last I saw we were #6 I think.
Great news *S*
galah{GS~fg} 19:56:05 CST
they reset those numbers every now and then Master Webbie, and we took the lead, havn't lost it yet, every once in a while, that gorean information site takes us to number 2, but they are a different classification than our chat site
Free Women Collaring Slaves
Rollo_the_Ax 20:00:07 CST
Okay as a first and fairly short topic... * Where or how does a Free Woman collar someone? *
Deirdre 20:01:10 CST
*looking over at Captain Rollo and grinning*
THIS FW just says no........and doesn't.
Kyoto-GS_Slave_Master 20:01:59 CST
Very carefully, Rollo, lest in their haste they leave themselves vulnerable and they become collar bait themselves.
Or, they can just purchase the slave outright.
Laroona 20:03:02 CST
would the Piazza and a submission be appropriate place to collar one? be it to GS and or personal collar
Phen(R) 20:03:47 CST
Well we are in the Piazza no kill no capture zone so we cant collar any slave that enters what if they ask?
Laroona 20:06:02 CST
and what if on Forum days and FW are permitted in the tavern... and no FM are present would capture be legal there?
not that I would try LOL
Grizzly 20:07:51 CST
Laroona,,I dont know,,,,,Im sure I'd welcome a wrestling Match with you.*EG*
Rollo_the_Ax 20:09:22 CST
If the fact that the Piazza is a NO K/C room is making some possible slaves *get away * the Council can take it under advisement and see what sort of answer we can come up with......
Jondalar: 20:10:26 CST
Rollo, I believe the Piazza should remain a NO K/C room!
Drusus: Black_Caste 20:11:27 CST
If they want to be kolared in the Piazza then I don't see why thats a problem. Not like they're being force kolared
Xertog 20:12:18 CST
I don't think there is a need to change the NO K/C status in the Piazza. I don't think we are losing slaves because of it.
telaise_{MDK}~c 20:12:21 CST
the Piazza is the one of the only places barenecks can feel safe enough to come and observe.. to see it this lifestyle is for them.. if it's made a Capture zone.. this one thinks it would drive even more away
~*steph*~ 20:12:25 CST
i have a question.. kind of on topic
could one FW ever face strip another? not sure why that popped into my head
Loki 20:12:45 CST
Aye~nodding with Drusus statment~
maybe just make it a no kill zone
Rollo_the_Ax 20:13:21 CST
That FW are permitted in the Tavern on this one day a week is a possible * window of opportunity * I guess... a FW could arrange to do a * collaring * then.... if she wanted to do so....
Akfishman 20:13:25 CST
it would seem, that a slave, the same as a fw, would want a safe place to visit, where others are present, not an empty room, and not be kolared..
eleve_LK_ 20:13:53 CST
but perhaps it could remain no kill, no FORCED capture...however, if a slave wished to be ko-larred and begged and submitted....then they could be ko-larred
Phen(R) 20:14:05 CST
No but what if a FW finds a slave somewhere and brings them here and they like it but wish to be collared by her then they have to drag them over to the inn to do it?
Deirdre 20:14:07 CST
steph........I have always understood that the act of "face-stripping" is Mens' Business. I think it should be.....though......I have been sorely tempted to take that action Myself.
Drusus Black_Caste 20:15:01 CST
would it not be posible to make it for FW to ko-lar when asked? No-one else allowed to do so though.
Laroona 20:15:06 CST
I can see no reason to alter the status of the Piazza it is or was serving its purpose as telaise said for people both Free and slaves to learn of Gor is for them *S* to force collar then we lose that ideology and more likely potential people for GS
Kha 20:16:54 CST
~now that sounds good Drusus ~
Laroona 20:17:29 CST
submitting to anyone in the Piazza is I consider a legit collaring.... why the need to go to any other site to collar?
~*steph*~ 20:17:39 CST
~smiling at the lovely Mistress Deidre~
thank you. i've never heard of it being done but wasn't sure
Xertog 20:17:56 CST
The Piazza has been used for collarings.. I have collared two slaves in there. It just can't be a forced collar.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:18:21 CST
The Council will have to see about doing something just like that, Drusus.... Rules are only there to make things WORK... if they need added or changed, it can always be done so........
Jondalar 20:18:32 CST
I also would agree with Drusus!
Phen(R) 20:18:32 CST
*Nodding to Laroonas words* So if they submit a FW can collar them then in the Piazza?
Drusus_of_the_Black_Caste 20:19:52 CST
If it works that way now then all well and good. If FW want to force kolar, then I don't see why they shoudn't have to run the gauntlet that goes with it. It's all part of Gor.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:20:22 CST
A valid point...as long as the collaring is NOT forced... that the one being collared submits...there should NOT be any need to change the standing rules...
Laroona 20:20:29 CST
why change what works
if it aint broke
Kha 20:21:38 CST
I for One prefer The Piazza as a safe zone ..much more freedom ~
Phen(R) 20:22:33 CST
*Looking to Drusus* Force collaring*L* Nope slaves are hard enough to deal with when they submit *wink*
PIAZZA - PROBLEMS
Rollo_the_Ax 20:24:25 CST
Okay.... while we are on the subject of the Piazza.... It has come to * MY * attention that things are not running all that smoothly in that room.... to put to fine a point on the subject, it seems that with the Piazza being the main room that FW are allowed to be in and fully protected, that the idea or concept has come about that the FW can just about do as they please in the room.... that
there was been * problems * between FW amd FM.. in the Piazza....
Akfishman20:25:30 CST
I run My hands through My girls hairs she kneels beside Me
Laroona 20:27:47 CST
Captain Rollo with respect
the Piazza is the only "safe room" per-say for FW there is a lot of confusion over what is acceptable behaviour and what is not?
would it be possible that Council in their wisdom set hard and fast rules so all know exactly where they stand?
Phen(R) 20:29:26 CST
*Looking innocently at the Captain* Well cant we.... Well I really dont understand that I can go to the Inn and see a Man furring but
they come to the Piazza and a mouthy FWs drives em off?
Xertog 20:29:28 CST
If something occurs in the Piazza that anyone feels is questionable they should cut and paste it and send it to the Council e mail addy. Goreanshores@hotmail.com
Laroona 20:30:51 CST
Phen that is what the Tavern is for LOL
eleve_LK_ 20:31:02 CST
as a visiting slave, is there a place on the homepage that outlines the limitations? there was a bit of an incident the other night that unfortunately, was not cut and pasted....and this one does not wish to make any uncomfortable in their home....
Akfishman 20:31:46 CST
and as I look around, since when can a FW take a slave out of serve from a FM.. is this not a Mans world, in ALL rooms..
Rollo_the_Ax 20:32:30 CST
I want to say THIS about such actions...... IF, everybody can't * play NICE * or get along WITHOUT active COUNCIL intervention... it may well become NECESSARY for the Council to * re-think * our rules for the room.... Oh rest assured that the Piazza will remain..... but if FW, FM, and slaves CAN'T interact in a CIVIL manner.... like ADULTS...... then maybe the Piazza will be the GIRLS room, and the TAVERN will be the BOYS room.... and should it come down to that, be VERY sure of the fact that as for the slaves.... the MAJORITY of them WILL be required to serve in the TAVERN first, and only when enough are around, will
other than PRIVATE slave have leave to serve in the Piazza ........Gor is a MANS world, after all....
Phen(R) 20:33:10 CST
*Looking to Laroona* I have no idea*L* all these rooms and rules...
Akfishman 20:33:51 CST
I pound My chest at Captains Rollos words of wisdom...
telaise_{MDK}~c 20:34:43 CST
http://www.gorean-shores.com/gorhome/homepage.html
everything everyone needs should be on this link girl thinks
Drusus_of_the_Black_Caste 20:36:16 CST
*speaking quietly from the back*
FW should watch their behaviour. The first sign of slavelike behaviour then I will slap a kolar on them and sell them to the first passing Slaver.
Phen(R) 20:36:41 CST
*Looking to the Captain* slaves serving me dont really worry Me ive got healthy arms and legs and can always get myself a drink not to mention I always offer to serve a Man when He enters and there are no slaves here...
So the point is some Masters are complaining about the behaviour of some FWs in the Piazza?
galah{GS~fg} 20:36:53 CST
well...in galahs opinion, not that it means alot, but there is no clearly drawn line, is lapping alright in the Piazza, gal would think yes...kissing? yes...the Piazza is not for open sexual sceneing, but it is the instinct of a slave to be openly sensual and sexual for her belly burns no matter where she is, room doesn't tell her how she feels and one can certainly deal with rules, it would be up to the Master to remove her to an alcove once it got to that point
Zoran 20:37:23 CST
weg I've turn my share of FW lol
but they usely beg it LMAo
eleve_LK_ 20:37:41 CST
so would massaging a Free Mans legs and arms be ok?
Laroona 20:38:13 CST
exactly galah there is limits
Kha 20:38:15 CST
I think We all watch Our behaviour Drusus We are only too aware of the consequences~ smiles~
Rollo_the_Ax 20:38:19 CST
Laroona... the MORE detailed the rules or laws, the LESS Freedom EVERYBODY has.... Too bloody often the PROBLEM is semantics.... a pinch on the ass to a kajira is what ??? okay in the tavern, but NOT in the Piazza ??? is it sex, or
is it * role play *..... the present rules say * NO OPEN sex *... so WHAT is SEX...???? a kiss ?? a lap ?? a pinch ?? or throwing the slave on the table and screwing her brains out while everybody watches ???? YOU say PO TAY TOE,,,, and say PO TAH TOE ???????
Akfishman 20:38:47 CST
I'm curious, is removing Ones boots, a sexual act? or having a slave brush them?
Zoran 20:39:02 CST
agreeing with galah
yes forplay is naturel
but since this is the Piazza
lol we get a room(alcove)
Phen(R) 20:39:13 CST
*Looking to Drusus* But thats the problem what do you call slave like behaviour or just flirting?
Kha 20:39:28 CST
I too Offer to serve if slaves are not present as We are supposed too~S~
eleve_LK_ 20:40:02 CST
by "no open sex" eleve would think that that would mean fingering, nudity, sex scening.... so flirting is ok?
amira{GS~sg} 20:40:16 CST
~cleaing her throat a bit. ~
amira will say something on this subject if she may
there are times that the atmosphere in the Piazza gets quite charged with intensity and at times even anger on behalf of the slaves.. she will say that this tension creeps onto the girls as well it makes then nervous and more prone to mistakes. it makes then jittery as heck.... several of the girls have even stated they at times hesitate going to the Piazza for fear something may get started. so perhaps there needs to be some sort of resolution that ALL can agree and abide with.
Laroona 20:40:40 CST
Captain Rollo I agree
we have rules for slaves etc..
galah{GS~fg} 20:40:53 CST
galah would think a massage would be alright, as long as she didn't unfasten a Masters breeches and massage whats in there heheheheheheheee hehehehee she would also think pinching would be alright, but then its to each persons interpretation what constitutes open sexual scening
Rollo_the_Ax 20:41:01 CST
Phen.... MEN are * complaining * about FW and how THEY act..... FW are complaining about how some MEN act.... the slaves are being used in a * tug of WAR * between the two...... and NOBODY is having any FUN anymore it seems....
Zoran 20:41:06 CST
lol sex is pentration
forplay lol that diffrent
vika {AK}GS~t~ 20:41:45 CST
~There are ways a slave can conduct herself being sensual and overtly sexual. a slave should just remember discretion within the Piazza...all things in moderation. To vika, it is fairly cut and dry....with the knowledge of the food chain. MEN first....Woman/woman.....~
Zoran 20:43:09 CST
lol rember the old saying me here holding hand hide you here holding hand low LOl
Laroona 20:43:13 CST
Kha we have both 'served" when there is a shortage of slaves or served ourselves *S*
Rollo_the_Ax 20:43:35 CST
Is it such an abstract concept for EVERYBODY to TRY and * GIVE the other guy/gal a FAIR chance * ??? Are we MORE worried about * I * think I am right and he/she is WRONG and EVERYBODY needs to see and say so ????
vika AK}GS~t~ 20:43:42 CST
~To vika.....a Woman/slave when the rubber hits the road has no right to question the Man, being it is a Man's world on Gor. Meaning not with a haughty or disrespectful attitude.~
Phen(R) 20:43:56 CST
*Shaking my head* This is Gor I walk down the street and see slaves being screwed I go to slave markets to buy them what is a bit of tickle and heat when in the Piazza...You know whats getting to Me seems now you slaves want to have it all in all the rooms...you can all go where a FW cant and complain that you have to watch yourself when in the Piazza?
Grizzly 20:44:04 CST
Damn,,,,am I the Only one behaving Myself?
galah{GS~fg} 20:44:57 CST
galah agrees with eleve, fingering, nudity and doin it heheheheheheee heheheheee would be a no go in the Piazza...alil fondling, kissing, lapping, massaging, shouldn't be considered open sexual sceneing in gals humble opinion, foreplay or flirting is soooooooo natural to a slave, that to hold that back, she may as well be a waitress for she has nuthing left to burn with
Akfishman 20:45:02 CST
I think some free women just sit in the piazza and wait for mistakes so they can correct them.. They upset the girls, then demand perfect service from them.. I see no reason for a fw to be yanking a slaves around by her hair..
Phen(R) 20:45:44 CST
Captain well I wish ppl who had a complaint would state it out in the open right there and then and deal with it then move on...
Zoran 20:46:00 CST
well Phen you can have that freedom to LOL
just cost you your P
Rollo_the_Ax 20:46:37 CST
Worry about your OWN ASS more.... and let the other person either stand or fall on their OWN !!!!! In GS, the COUNCIL sets the limits and rules...if y'all see somebody BREAK a rule or THINK you see them break one... then tell them PRIVATELY....and if they say thanks, FINE....if they say * Tough shit * then C+P it and send it to the COUNCIL to DEAL WITH...... BACK OFF and let everybody else have some FUN !!!!!!!!!
amira{GS~sg} 20:47:53 CST
Mistress Phen
with all due respect. that seems to be the issue. the air in the Piazza burns hotter than a she beast in serve... ~ darn near competes with the slaves for heat.
amira was always taught keep the stuff turned down....... there are many ways to BE sensual without being sexual... and besides its kind of a challenge to turn it up a notch without being blatant
Phen(R) 20:47:55 CST
*Looking to Zoran and winking* I dont want that freedom*L*
Kha 20:49:24 CST
Rollo if I may ..that when I am in The Piazza most times it is full ...with a great feeling~ for all ...apart from One time when a slave disrespected a FM not of this Homestone and kept on in the end she was dealt with by Laroona ~ just tied to a post awaiting punishment ~ I have not felt this animosity~
Phen(R) 20:51:22 CST
amira so there are FWs acting like slaves on heat?
Laroona 20:52:02 CST
I would like to think that the Piazza be a place that is relaxed and for ppl to learn in, especially the white silks.... I would lose count how many times I PM to help girls would have been made..... that makes them far better slaves to serve all of GS *S*
dove_GS_ 20:52:03 CST
nods listening to amira's words...
*she speaks...softly...*
and...slave cannot go wherever they want and do whatever they want...there are so many rules that a slave can barely form words of her own...she is bound by restraint yet...her belly burns to please..to serve...to be used..and half the time...it is very difficult.. especially for a new slave to speak without fearing displeasure....slaves are not free to do...anything....
Rollo_the_Ax 20:52:34 CST
The SIMPLE FACT that so often escapes many... and FW more so than others....is that on GOR, MEN Rule and do as THEY see fit...... kajira are here to serve MEN !!! first and foremost...... no slave * burns * to serve a FW...( if she does, she is in the WRONG bloody site....) they may be happy to do so IF no MEN are about...but when a MAN shows up, the slave wants to and SHOULD serve HIM first !!!!!
amira{GS~sg} 20:52:40 CST
~chuckling softly~
no Mistress Phen that is not what a girl meant
she was merely stating that sometimes the tension in the room is so heated it FEELS like a slave in a sexual seerve...... she has never seen an FW act any other way that as an FW should.
Phen(R) 20:52:54 CST
*Listening to Kha and thinking the same* Man have I been blindsided by this one *L*
Akfishman 20:54:27 CST
that's sound advice to be taken Rollo.. thank you...
Phen(R) 20:54:37 CST
OK Captain what happens if a girl is already serving a FW and a Master enters and they start whispering dont release me to that One?????
Drusus_of_the_Black_Caste 20:54:47 CST
*listens to Rollos words*
Too true.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:55:25 CST
in GS, we have a LONG history of accepting FW that ACT the part of GOREAN FW.... the Council supports this action...... but at the risk of upsetting any FW present or not.... MEN will do as WE see fit...and ANY FW has ONLY as much freedom OR protection as the MEN deem fit to ALLOW her......
Drusus_of_the_Black_Caste 20:55:42 CST
*hearing Phens words*
It is not up to the slave who she serves. The fact is she WILL serve.
Laroona 20:55:51 CST
sighs*
I defer to the men for service to release slaves it is proper....
Kha that I did do at DS's request yes
galah{GS~fg} 20:56:01 CST
the Piazza a place to relax Mistress? and a FM holding a slave in his lap, or having a slave massage his aching muscles in not relaxing Mistress? its also good for those new slaves, and new ppl to have a taste of what gor is like before jumping with both feet into the rough and ready tavern...we describe the piazza like a sidewalk cafe, but not like a sidewalk cafe of earth, its still
GOR
Zoran 20:56:06 CST
think A slave that would whisper that should be punished looking to mine knowing she never not serve a FM she knows I do not stand for any such bull shit
Kha 20:56:18 CST
Rollo and they do in the piazza ,but if they are midst serve they finish ...and serve the Man ...and mostly I have seen FW dismissing girls to serve The Men ~as Phen said We are able to serve Ourselves ~We will not starve ~ s~
amira{GS~sg} 20:57:34 CST
~raises a brow~
no slave at anytime has the right to chose WHO she serves,
vika {AK}GS~t~ 20:57:42 CST
~her lot is to serve the Free Men.....not just One's they like. *laughs*~
whispers{GS} 20:57:58 CST
if a slave does pm a Free begging not to serve then should that slave not be punished? for we do not have a choice like vika mentioned
Kha 20:58:37 CST
Laroona.... yes it was on the Request of a Very VERY ANGRY Daemon Storm that You intervened~
Drusus_of_the_Black_Caste 20:59:05 CST
If a Fm is in need of service and you have finished then you let her do her job.
If she is not willing to serve, then she may as well have her throat slit.
If she will not do her job, then she has no purpose.
dove_GS_ 21:00:40 CST
the girl parts her lips to utter the question~
the words soft and tender.... then a girl..even if she is serving a Mistress and is called by a Master should STOP
Phen(R) 21:00:54 CST
Well there in itself is a problem Drusus you cant just slit a slaves thoat in the Piazza...
You know what why do we need slaves in the Piazza anyway?
dove_GS_ 21:01:06 CST
and go to Him as He commaned...aye?
Xertog 21:01:20 CST
What rules are you referring to AKfishman?
sen{HoK} 21:02:08 CST
If a slave is commanded to scrub the floor of a room, but doesn't....because she doesn't want to. Would you say...okay you don't?
Would this not be the same, she is whispering to beg not to be released to do something that is her..life? Is it not her life to be pleasing to -all- Free?
vika {AK}GS~t~ 21:02:22 CST
~If it were vika...and most Master's have done this....she completes the serve of the Mistress and moves immediately to the Master to serve. Unless you were restricted from serving that Mistress and are being disobedient.....~
Drusus_of_the_Black_Caste 21:02:46 CST
Never said I would do it in the Piazza. Besides, if she is a GS slave it is up to the Slave Master to deal with her. A private slave has a Master to answer too and an unkolared slave ... well, they take their own chances.
Akfishman 21:02:48 CST
the Ones We are talking about Captain Xertog.. *s
Zoran 21:04:03 CST
sit back as I here the old wars begin
thinking all shoull know this
shaking my head
Rollo_the_Ax 21:04:13 CST
a FW can order her PRIVATE slave to do whatever she sees fit....and if a slave is already serving a FW then the FW has the control of the situation... but for a FW to DEMAND that a slave STOP serving a Man ??? unless the slave is her own PRIVATE slave, the FW has overstepped her bounds.... we have neither the time here and now, nor I the energy to try and cover EVERY possible * what if *.... you are ALL adults...and all Goreans....you should KNOW in your minds and in your HEARTS... what is RIGHT, and what is NOT...... DO WHAT IS RIGHT !!!!!! YOURSELF...... and don't worry so much about what the * other guy/gal * is doing so wrong........
vika {AK}GS~t~ 21:04:25 CST
~You probably would not need slaves in the Piazza if it were just a Free Women's lounge area. But Men visit there and Most would prefer a slave serve than a Free Woman.~
Laroona 21:04:56 CST
Drusus as what occured with the slave I was asked to deal with as the FM had to depart.... it was carried out by GS rules and dealt with appropriately *S*
Drusus_of_the_Black_Caste 21:04:57 CST
*rising to leave*
I have to go .. it's 3am here. I will catch up with the rest on the boards at a later date.
galah{GS~fg} 21:05:15 CST
dove, there should still be a thing called courtesy, a FM should wait till a slave is done serving before calling a girl to him...its never right to call a slave out in the middle of a serve, even if its a personal slave and their owner comes in....there should still be curtsey and patience for a girl to finish the task at hand
Xertog 21:05:46 CST
AKfishman do you think you can list the rules for everyone then so that it is clear?
Lady_Sissy 21:05:59 CST
nodding hearing his words
agreeing totally
(R)~ahava~{LA} 21:06:26 CST
do not ask how to live, but, instead, proceed to do so."
Phen(R) 21:06:48 CST
Well all I can say to You Men is that for Me anyway all I have is My sense of Humor wit and sarcasm not to mention my flirtious ways to make friends or to interact with a Male if any of You have a problem with that please tell Me pull me up whatever...And I will refrain as You have all said so clearly not to mention I know its a MANS world...
Ulrich 21:07:14 CST
I've spent quite a bit of time in the Piazza.
I've never had a problem with anyone, be it FM, FW or slave.
The FW have always deferred to FM if they were present.
Rollo_the_Ax 21:07:26 CST
You know...... a while back, I put a big ole bag of rocks in the Tavern and message board...... they are still there...... so as the * book * says.... " Let they who are without fault, cast the first stone * ...... the other way of saying the same thing is to look at your hand as you * point the finger * at somebody....while ONE finger is aimed at them, THREE more are aimed right back at YOURSELF......
dove_GS_ 21:07:50 CST
yes Mistress galah...but on the chance that a Master should call for a slave and she has not been released...not call but command...(as it has happened) one thinks she should go to Him and serve Him as He is Master...that is what her heart tells her...
Kha 21:09:26 CST
and I second that Phen ~ smiles~
Akfishman 21:07:58 CST
possibly Xertog.. I do have most all of them, but not may on the actual online behaviour for FW... this seems to be covered here and now..
galah{GS~fg} 21:11:15 CST
no dove, you are not to leave the one your serving until released to do so....the FM can take it up with the FW if there is a problem
Xertog 21:12:25 CST
LOL.. OK AK .. I'll take that as a no. I know you like Luthers web site and post from it here and in the other rooms.. Here is one from there you might like that is on the current subject:
"Those who share Home Stones generally respect and protect each other. Men do not willingly let men of other Home Stones enslave their women. They do not let their women come to harm if they can intervene and protect them. A third key is simply tolerance for the actions of free women. I think Tarl Cabot said it best, "It is not difficult, of course, to take insolence from a woman." (Mercenaries of Gor, p.7) Many Gorean men will just laugh off a woman's insults.
http://www.geocities.com/delphius2002/id26.htm
galah{GS~fg} 21:12:53 CST
its okay if you beg released so you can serve the Master dove, but that is all you can do in that situation....and don't cap the M on mistress pleasssssssssssssse
Rollo_the_Ax 21:14:03 CST
dove...if a slave is in service to ANY free...and gets a request from a different free Or and order to stop and come to them instead.... the slave does NOT have any choice...they are already in service... only the OWNER of a slave would be able to order such a thing...
Akfishman 21:14:39 CST
okay, lets see..
A Free Woman who volunteers "couches" with a slave, may be taken as slave by the Master of said slave She couched with. (Mag. p. 7 and 303)
Akfishman 21:15:31 CST
Free Women and Free Companionship Laws
In a Free Companionship, the woman can take the Caste of the
man. Otherwise
to change caste, the High Council of the city must approve
the change, based
on your qualifications for the new caste and the willingness
of the new
caste to accept you.
Akfishman 21:15:46 CST
A Free Companionship lasts for a single year. If it is not
renewed at the
end of that time, it dissolves. Slavery and death of one of
the parties will
serve to dissolve the Companionship early than that. A woman
does not change
her name in a Free Companionship. The books do not say if
the contract can
be willingly dissolved prior to the year end if the parties
so agree.
Akfishman 21:16:09 CST
Xertog, shall I post them all here as you requested?
Phen(R) 21:16:37 CST
AK with all due respect there is no such thing ad a FC in Port Kar*SS*
dove_GS_ 21:16:50 CST
yes Master Rollo...
dove will know what to do from now on~ her tresses follow the movement of her nod and come to rest near her heels as she towers
(R)~ahava~{LA} 21:17:24 CST
where did couching a slave come into the picture?
Rollo_the_Ax 21:18:04 CST
LOL...LOL... That is true to a great degree, brother Xertog.... it works as well for MEN also.... basically, if you do NOT give a happy shit just what the other person thinks or says, to laugh in there face and then IGNORE them very often does more good and less harm than fighting or arguing....
Akfishman 21:18:18 CST
Phen, I know but they do allow a woman and man to be together.. She is just reffered to as His woman.. *s
Phen(R) 21:18:44 CST
"She looked at me. "Must I wear it?" she asked.
"Yes," I said. I did not want her slain, if possible, when the men came. If they
thought her a free woman, and mine, she might be swiftly killed, or tortured and
impaled.
She found the collar.
"Put it on," I told her.
"Is there so little hope?" she asked.
"Put it on," I said to her. "Put it on."
"No," she said. "If you die, I am willing to die beside you, as your woman."
Port Kar does not recognize the Free Companionship, but there are free women in
the city, who are known simply as the women of their men.
"Are you my woman?"- I asked.
"Yes," she said.
"Then," I said, "obey me."
She smiled. "If I must be collared," she said, "let it be at the hand of my
Ubar."
I placed the collar on her throat, and kissed her. In her tunic I saw,
concealed, a small dagger.
"Would you fight with this?" I asked, taking it from her.
"I do not wish to live without you!" she cried.
I threw the dagger to one side. She wept in my arms. "No," I said, "life is what
is important. It is life that is important. Life."
Collared, she wept in my arms.
Weary, I fell asleep. "
(Raiders 295 )
Xertog 21:18:56 CST
From what I recall of reading Magicians of Gor couching laws were only in the city of Ar.
Has ka been a busy boy in GS that I don't know about? LOL.. Looking about at the Freewomen present
Kha 21:19:24 CST
I for One have never wished or would wish to couch a slave ~ shudders at the thought~
Phen(R) 21:20:11 CST
I really love that quote seems really easy to just place a collar on her no veils no robes*wink*
Laroona 21:20:18 CST
uggg no way Xertog I value my neck *S*
Akfishman 21:20:33 CST
Any free woman who couches with another's slave or even
prepares to do so,
becomes a slave herself and becomes the slave of the male
slave's master.
This is known as the "couching law."
Kha 21:21:49 CST
AK ....I think We have covered that none of Us are going that route ~ shudders~
Akfishman 21:22:06 CST
The principle of "conduct indicating suitability for the
collar" deals with
conduct by a free woman sufficient to warrant her reduction
to slavery. It
is commonly applied to fraud, theft, indigency, vagrancy,
prostitution, and
indulgence in sensuous dance. Other behavior which might
trigger the
principles includes attempting to spy on masters and slaves,
disguising
oneself as a slave, garbing oneself as a slave even in the
supposed secrecy
of one's own compartment, baring too much flesh, lingering
about slave
shelves and markets, and even exhibiting an interest in or
fascination with
bondage.
Xertog 21:22:21 CST
Aye Rollo very true brother! Akfishman I was referring to what was said at the forum in context to your remarks of such.
Akfishman 21:22:43 CST
oh, I'm sorry Kha, I thought ahava asked about it..
vika {AK}GS~t~ 21:23:49 CST
~It seems to vika, that if All of GS just remained respectful, serving, integrity in the Piazza.....a slave not attempting to manipulate or be a princess......that ALL women Free or slave held respect to the Man...it should be fine. *shakes head*~
Rollo_the_Ax 21:23:58 CST
If this is going to digress into a * quote * fight... then two things will happen....First, I will remind everybody that ANY quote is only as valid as it relates to the topic at hand, but also it must be remembered that EVERY quote is BIASED by the person using it and the person that said it first...... Second...if that is all we have left to say, it is time for me to call this forum to an end...the allotted time has past, we will call it a night......
Phen(R) 21:24:36 CST
AK where do you get these from*SS* In Port Kar there are she urts FW who sell themselves and more there is also a Penal prison and a Caste of Thieves that has women in it too*SS*
Akfishman 21:25:25 CST
be well Rollo. the problems have been solved.. thak you for a great forum this night..
Akfishman 21:26:19 CST
I actually have alot, several sites I use, but I do like Luthers best..
Kha 21:26:58 CST
Captain Rollo .....May I ask how do I make GS MY Home ..I have wandered many a
moon Free ..and if GS could take another Fw into its midst I would be most
honoured
R)~ahava~{LA} 21:27:22 CST
well Master AK remember the copy right laws of His site as He is a very respected Gorean.....smiles
Akfishman 21:28:11 CST
what ahava? what did you tall Me to do?
Rollo_the_Ax 21:28:17 CST
AK.... the * couching law * was ONLY official or spoken of in the city of Ar in the books.... GS does NOT have such a law or rule on the books for GS....LOL...LOL... we don't need it .... FW may own their OWN male slave, but to My knowledge, no man of GS even owns a male salve to TRY and use in such a way...... valid law in Ar, useless in GS
Akfishman 21:31:16 CST
I'm finding alot of Goreans around here are just sending Me puter copies Xertog,
soon will have them all to read.. *s
Kha 21:32:07 CST 82.45.74.38
AK the computer copies are illegal I believe~
vika {AK}GS~t~ 21:33:18 CST
~Then vika will send Him the complete set. *smiles* Since she has three.~
Akfishman 21:34:21 CST
I look to My girl, you will? I'll send them back in perfect condition...*smiling*
Laroona 21:33:40 CST
John Norman has had several sites pulled for having copies of his books on the sites