Rollo_the_Ax 19:12:34 CST
Well folks...... we may as well get this show on the road, so to speak......WELCOME one and all to this weeks GS Forum....same rules as always...... keep greetings and private cross talk in whispers from now until we finish please...... etc., etc., etc,........
Rollo_the_Ax 19:13:17 CST
anybody with a topic they wish discussed, PM me and we will add it to the list and see how far we get......okay ???/
Rollo_the_Ax 19:20:41 CST
before we start, I guess we can throw open the floor for any questions or comments about the festival next weekend????
alyena{Ra} 19:21:28 CST
~hearing Master Rollo.. aly thinks~
aly knows vulo's are horrible to pluck... ~laughs~
amira{GS} 19:24:30 CST
~laughs softly ~
amira has found out that she has TONS of oysters~
and NO ideas ~.
Rollo_the_Ax 19:25:18 CST
LOL..LOL... vulo, alyena ???? Wait until I bring in that tumit in for you girl to deal with......LOL...LOL.. if you are REAL nice, i will even kill it BEFORE I turn it loose on you.......LOL...LOL...LMAO....
alyena{Ra} 19:25:44 CST
oyster shooters?? ~giggles~
Keene 19:26:49 CST
oysters get the blood flowing....to all the right places. Like we need that around here.
alyena{Ra} 19:26:51 CST
ohhhh Master Rollo.. aly begs You to please do so... ~laughs... then suddenly goes quiet~ girl will be dreaming of it chasing her now for a hand... ~laughs~
galah{RA}t 19:27:21 CST
anyone know what all these oysters are gonna do for the Masters? heheheheheeee heheheee but perhaps that is rumor? heheheheee
amira{GS} 19:27:52 CST
winks at galah~.
and maybe serve the with larmas~
laughing~
galah{RA}t 19:28:16 CST
ooooohhh aly, those things are carnivorous tooo heheheheheee
galah{RA}t 19:28:51 CST
heheheeee good plan amira....that goes together heheheheheee
galah{RA}t 19:29:21 CST
besides, both those things is kinda slimy hehehehehee heheheheeee
alyena{Ra} 19:29:32 CST
gee thanks for that thought gal... ~giggles~
Rollo_the_Ax 19:30:38 CST
alyena....what kind of dreams ??? I mean, what is the difference between being chased by a bird or a Master if they both have eating you on their minds ??????? LOL...LOL...
galah{RA}t 19:30:58 CST
wonder if swallowing an oyster straight down or chewing on it says anything about the Master eating them? heheheheheeee
Keene 19:31:22 CST
*looks at Rollo, shocked then falls back laughing*
galah{RA}t 19:31:43 CST
your welcome aly heheheheheee heheheheee next time gal will wait till its dark and quiet and your all alone before telling you horror stories hehehehehe
Rollo_the_Ax 19:32:18 CST
LOL...LOL... okay, if there are no specific questions, we will move on to forum topics.....our first one is...* In a situation where a Master is being served by a slave and another Free comes in the room, maybe one of higher "rank". Should the one being served finish with the serve and send the slave to take care of the other Master? Is that just polite or is it customary
alyena{Ra} 19:32:43 CST
~thinks for a minute~
well Master Rollo... aly thinks she might not let the Master chase her too long... ~giggles
amira{GS} 19:34:01 CST
if there is only one girl in the Tavern or Piazza at the time.
girl would think it would only be right to allow the girl to serve. regardless of ~Rank~
galah{RA}t 19:34:15 CST
oooooohhh aly, do the oops, she slipped trick? heheheheheee hehehehehee
amira{GS} 19:35:41 CST
~thinks ~ the oysters may end up on the floor if we let aly serve them~.
she may do a LOT of slipping~
Rollo_the_Ax 19:36:13 CST
In a case such as this, there are no set rules of what must or should be done..... Once a slave is in the service of a Free, they are there until released...... so it comes down to a personal choice or decision.... really......
amira{GS} 19:38:04 CST
m no set rules
but a matter of courtesy too Master Rollo
Deirdre 19:39:17 CST
As a Free, I would NEVER expect a slave to stop serving Someone else just because I walked in. That is lame.......and very egocentric.....
galah{RA}t 19:40:07 CST
definantly a show of courtesy if a Master has more than one slave at his service, then he should release others to serve those coming in....but that one on one is a tuff question
alyena{Ra} 19:40:52 CST
what if a girl is simply at a Masters side.. after she's served.. but hasn't been released.. and a Free comes in and orders that girl to get them something from the servery when there are other girls in the room not doing anything?? how is a girl to explain herself without getting in trouble or making the Free upset?
Keene 19:42:08 CST
Deidre what if she has served drink and food but is kneeling at the Free's feet? Still in service but not actually performing any service other than company possibly. Seems like it would come down to personal courtesy.
Keene 19:43:11 CST
aly, I dont think it would be your place to explain, but the Free that you are serving. My opinion.
Rollo_the_Ax 19:43:23 CST
LOL...LOL.. YES, it may well be the proper or best course to allow the slave to go and serve another.... but remember...... Gor is a place where MEN set thet limits and decide what they WILL and WON'T do...... besides, many men are more like boys in the fact that they HATE to * share their toys * .......LOL...LOL..
Torvaldslander 19:43:47 CST
A frown at alyena's words...
"If a girl has not been released she is NOT to leave that Man's service for any reason... even if commanded by another to give service... any Gorean man knows this and would not hold a girl to fault for being unable to respond to his demand if in service to another... though if he chooses to do so, that is his right...
Sucks to be a slave sometimes..."
Grin
Sandman,,Builder_ 19:43:52 CST
In my case my personal choice is: if another Free enters I will usually release the slave after she is done .. to my annoyance once or twice the other master hasnt released the slave,,, but I would rather be true to my principals and occasionally annoyed than to be known as a slave hog
Keene 19:45:05 CST
That was well put Sandman and I agree with You.
Better to hold My own honor and to POSSIBLY be annoyed
Deirdre 19:47:33 CST
Keene.....I'm not going to question why a slave is still at the feet of a Free Man. That is not My place. I'm not entitled to be served PERIOD if a slave is in the service of a Free Man. Courtesy on His part is not in question. This is Gor
Rollo_the_Ax 19:47:37 CST
Okay. lets try to cover a few * what ifs * ..... IF there are other slaves NOT in service, but the new free tries to require the slave in service to the first free to come serve him, he can blow it out his ......butt .... , but if there is only the one slave and multipul Free then the proper thing would be to allow her to serve them food or drink, and if you wany her back to YOU, say so when you tell her to serve the others......
Torvaldslander 19:49:24 CST
"Could adopt a Northern position for the period of the festival where the girls just shove the mead and meat into the Jarl's hands when he walks in the door...
That way everyone gets served as soon as they enter and the girls will not be tied to one particular man unless he demands service..."
Torvaldslander 19:56:28 CST
Laughing at Rollo's words and grinning...
"Never had much time for ceremonies myself... 'give me mead and give me plenty' is my motto..."
Rollo_the_Ax 20:03:26 CST
I am told that a case in point about this happened recently.... that a FW told a slave to serve her while the slave was at the feet of a Master....and when the master had the slave heel him out of the room, the slave caught hell from the FW....... unless the salve in question was the private;y owned slave of the FW, the slave did NOTHING WRONG, and * in MY Opinion * the FW is lucky to still have her neck bare of a collar....... but hey, I am only going by what I ma told so far......LOL...Okay ??????
galah{RA}t 20:03:32 CST
there will indeed be a different type of serving for the festival Jarl Harkon....trays of food and drink brought around instead of individual serving
Deirdre 20:04:36 CST
*grinning at Rollo*
Just for the record, Cap......that FW was NOT....NOT.....NOT....Me.....*chuckling*
Torvaldslander 20:05:31 CST
Nodding...
"Sounds fair to me Rollo..."
Keene 20:05:40 CST 24.0.55.158
*Listening to Deirdre, chuckling*
Kyoto 20:05:53 CST
That happened? Here?
Given recent events, you'd think free women might know better.
~*elektra_{Harkon}*~ 20:06:23 CST
A Free Man's wishes always come first on Gor. The FW in question was mistaken, in ele's opinion. When ele was Free, she would always defer to men...
Torvaldslander 20:06:51 CST
Laughing softly...
"I don't care where the food comes from... just as long as there's food... remember though little galah... it is Jarl Heartripper..."
Thinking I should change my av...
Deirdre 20:07:03 CST
*grinning at Kyoto*
THIS Free Woman does.........that's a headache waiting to happen........a collar at the very least.......
~segen~{Sg} 20:07:27 CST
Does a FW need a "Valid" reason to give a slave hell???
Does any Free need a "Valid" reason to give a slave hell???
topaz{Rast's_girl} 20:08:21 CST
Jarl Heartripper, simply Put it on Your tag perhaps..
*speaks softly*
~*elektra_{Harkon}*~ 20:08:41 CST
No Free person needs a reason to give a slave hell, segen. It is their perogative. They may act as they wish to.
~segen~{Sg} 20:09:23 CST
~hearing ele, nodding~
galah{RA}t 20:09:41 CST
yes Jarl Heartripper, gal will remember that **whimpers softly**
Deirdre 20:10:09 CST
segen.....Good point. I can only answer for Myself. I have to feel in My heart that a slave has done something serious enough to cause My ire before I give 'em hell. PMS.....or just plain being a Bitch is really not a good enough reason for Me......*shrugging
~segen~{Sg} 20:11:53 CST
Mistess Deirdre, do not get segen wrong, she does not disagree with You but that is a personal choice of Yours. (one that segen respects as there are real people behind these screens) but "Gor" wise...~shrugs a bit
Kyoto 20:12:28 CST
You are correct, segen. She may do as she pleases and has that luxury at the forbearance of the men of her home.
As long as their good humor holds out, that is.
Deirdre 20:13:24 CST
*nodding to segen* you are absolutely right, babe.......Gor-wise a slave catches what she catches....right or wrong...valid or invalid.
~segen~{Sg} 20:13:33 CST
~hears Master Kyoto and nods once more~
Rollo_the_Ax 20:23:44 CST
Okay......anything more to be said about this issue ??????
Keene 20:23:54 CST
*looks over to Sandman, then grins, reaching into My pocket and pulling a coin from it and tossing it in the air, watching it fall and listening to the sweet sound on the hard floor break the silence*
galah{RA}t 20:24:12 CST
yes Master, amen heheheheheheee hehehee
Rollo_the_Ax 20:24:25 CST
Anybody have another topic ??
Kyoto 20:24:43 CST
Ummm... no, nothing more.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:29:14 CST
Next topic.......* Does anyone have a concern over the recent capture of a free woman that had entered the tavern of her own free will?
Given the rules, should there still be leniency?*
Torvaldslander 20:30:11 CST
Knowing nothing about this topic and remaining silent...
Keene 20:30:30 CST
I dont know the situation. Can I ask Rollo? Was she aware of the rules?
Orion 20:31:13 CST
There should NEVER be leniancy for a Free Woman that enters the Tavern and is even WARNED that she is in a capure zone and faces face stripping and a ko-lar... You play with fire then you get burned and deserve it..
~segen~{Sg} 20:31:28 CST
It might have been simpler to avoid any "retrubution" if she had been ransomed....
but ~shrugging~ she is slave now so it matters little any longer...
Keene 20:32:31 CST
Well obviously she was warned..she knew. Leniency? To serve what purpose?
~segen~{Sg} 20:33:13 CST
It would also have been easier to answer this question if she was just any FW....however she was the Ubara of Ar...
Rollo_the_Ax 20:34:21 CST
I do not have ALL the details, myself......but as I understand, the woman KNEW that she could be captured.... accepted her capture .... so to MY thinking it is a done deal....I think the question comes from the fact that she was a * big wig * at another site......so some of her home stone got their knickers in a twist....
Torvaldslander 20:35:38 CST
Knowing of the incident in question now... and having no opinion on it... wondering who called for leniency and why... it was a done deal...
Keene 20:35:38 CST
No offense intended because I dont know them, but it would seem they have a new slave that can untwist their knickers for them.
Xertog 20:39:23 CST
They don't have a new slave Keene, Kyoto does. Well done Bro! ..LOL
Rollo_the_Ax 20:40:02 CST
The man that colared her has the final say on what happenes to her......he can keep her, ransom her, release her, or feed her to the dock eels for all I care...... as long as he followed GS rules, he has the support of the Council...... end of story.......if others don't like it ??? My heart bleeds for them.... or wait, was that heart or hemmoroids ?????? who cares ?????
Kyoto 20:40:09 CST
Thank you, Xertog.
Keene 20:40:11 CST
oh, *chuckles* Well Kyoto can send her back to untwist the knickers if He so desires.
Shadowglade-First_Sword 20:40:38 CST
*steps in silently steel blue eyes glancing about as he moves to his curule chair and takes his seat at the right hand of the hulking Torvaldslander. He nods his greetings silently so as not to interrupt the discussion*
Orion 20:40:43 CST
Well Rollo, as with ANY women in Gor she has to know that shit happens and those of her home site should get over it as she was warned and seemed to not care. She is a slave now and if not, needs to be stripped down and branded as such... If they wish her back so bad after that, then sell her for a handsome price as a paga slave...
shiva_lyn_GS_ 20:42:24 CST
Masters ...may shiva ask a question please?
Rollo_the_Ax 20:45:08 CST
That is what we are here for, shiva......ask away....
Kyoto 20:45:16 CST
Of course, shiva.
shiva_lyn_GS_ 20:46:28 CST
~smiles softly~
thank-You Masters...
shiva just wonders...if she is owned by many..then who decides whether to sell her?? Is it a Council decision?
Kyoto 20:47:19 CST
It is up to the whole council.
Grinning at her
You have some place you'd like to be?
Shadowglade-First_Sword 20:47:27 CST
Aye shiva, if one offers to you by sending an e-mail to the council e-mail address, we your Masters discuss whether to sell you, or not to sell you, and then let it be known to the man who wishes to purchase you of our decision.....
Xertog 20:47:55 CST
The Council votes on the sale of all GS slaves
galah{RA}t 20:48:53 CST
and doesn't a slave normally have to be a yellow silk before they are sold Masters?
Shadowglade-First_Sword 20:50:04 CST
Nay galah, there is no skill requirement, though we generally like to know a girl is trained before we sell her....but what it all comes down to is whether we wish to sell the girl, or don't.
shiva_lyn_GS_ 20:50:05 CST
~grins then lowers her eyes thinking her brown orbs reveal WAY too much..this girl an open book~....
well Master...shiva can think of where she does not wish to go to !!!
~shivers a lil at the thought~
shiva_lyn_GS_ 20:52:40 CST
as for where she would like to be?
~just smiles a thoughtfully quiet smile~
does shiva have a choice??
~lil laugh~
~segen~{Sg} 20:53:09 CST
~tilts her head a bit~
does shiva have a choice at where she'd NOT wish to go???
Shadowglade-First_Sword 20:53:24 CST
Nay slut, you don't. No slave has any choice online....RT is another matter.....
shiva_lyn_GS_ 20:55:55 CST
~makes her fingers look like a certain letter for only segen to read...~
begins with this letter..
~s~
shiva_lyn_GS_ 20:58:33 CST
~acknowledges Master Shadowglade's words and nods~
yes Master
shiva_lyn_GS_ 21:01:46 CST
~respectful tone as she nods gently at the Masters~
thank-You Masters ...for Your answers...
Rollo_the_Ax 21:02:12 CST
To a large degree, My brother Shadowglade is correct, shiva, and segen...... but more times than NOT, the Captains will speak with the girl, and ask her if she wishes to be sold to the person or NOT.... but it does NOT always mean that we will listen or ask in that way......
shiva_lyn_GS_ 21:03:27 CST
and what if....
~stopping herself for a brief moment~
what if a girl feels drawn..to a certain One...she must serve all the Masters ..surely it will show if she favours One...and then what?..if noticed will she be admonished?
Shadowglade-First_Sword 21:05:32 CST
A girl should be pleasing to all, shiva, but *I* Have never admonished a girl for showing that she burns most for One, as long as she does not forget that there are other men.....she should burn for them all, to some degree....
shiva_lyn_GS_ 21:07:13 CST
but then...Some just arent around...as much..
~stifling a giggle as he eyes look around the room, not pointing anyone out~
Rollo_the_Ax 21:08:06 CST
many have * favorites *.. it is only human nature......as long as the girl serves ALL when called on, it will not matter that she may try to serve ONE a little bit better......unless another master sees that he is being snubbed....then the girl had best worry......
shiva_lyn_GS_ 21:08:42 CST
hard to show that you burn for all..when as a white...this girl is feeling like she has to fight hard at times ...to ..
~pausing, biting her lip~
hold back the fire she feels at times
~dark orbs lowered to the floor, face flushing a lil~
Orion 21:14:39 CST
-chuckles at shiva- Well IT will come out and accross when you are togther shiva.. -lol- it is VERY hard for a girl to not show she burns for the one that has captured her heart for her actions and looks give her away.. -nods and grins
~segen~{Sg} 21:14:54 CST
~hearing siva's comment~
That fire that you are having to push back should be propelling you to excelle so you can attain your yellow silks...~soft smile~
Rollo_the_Ax 21:16:48 CST
LOL...LOL... the answer to THAT dilemma, shiva, is to work EXTRA hard to learn what is needed to get your yellow silks, and then you can * show * all the fire you want....LOL...
shiva_lyn_GS_ 21:18:37 CST
~noding at segen~
shiva is doing so segen....as much as her r/t allows time for...shiva even attempted a Bazi tea serve the other day..
~s~
and she means..."attempt"..although the Master was pleased
~lil grin~
Orion 21:20:16 CST
-nods as he listens- you remind me of a certain girl that is precious to me shiva.. She had the fires and it took a long time for her to let them show, and NOW she is on track to scorch any man with the fires she has burning right now... -wide grin- so listen to the trainers and remember the adivice you were given and let nature flame those fires in your belly girl till they engulf you and EVERYONE around you...
Rollo_the_Ax 21:23:51 CST
Well, folks......it seems that we have spent our time for today/tonight.... I want to thank everyone for coming and taking part in our Forum.... same time, same place next week....... and I hope that what has been talked about has helped somebody...anybody..... to learn and enjoy On-line Gor a bit more..........