Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 12:50:53 CST Well that seems to work every time ~LOL~
Ok here is our first topic:
Travelling from city to city or region to region in Gor. Should this be realistic and not the “magical” appearing in one site within a few minutes of leaving that site in another?
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 12:52:45 CST Blade.. meaning.. go from say for instance.. PortKar and all sudden appear in Ar?.. moments later?.. or how Oone arrives?.. just not sure what the question entails
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 12:55:38 CST *well We all know that to go from one site to another is just a push of a button, it is just the way of gor in VT,I don't think people are going to wait before they enter another gor site after leaving one other S*
Laroona 12:55:59 CST I has been said so often lately about there is not enough realistic role play! As tarns, ships etc do not just appear, is it too much to say that one has landed their tarn and landed, got out of the basket, paid the tarnsmen and then enter, and how long it took for the flight.
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 12:57:03 CST Well if you show up on the back of an animal you should at least do a post or 2 when you show up and do the same when you leave. I mean if your going to ride something you may as well roleplay it to the fullest. As for travelling from city to city or region to region is a lil harder to do since we are on line. I mean I am not going to leave say another site and log off for so many hours before I show up here in GS.
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 12:57:34 CST hearing the question, and then Mistress Laroona's response, topaz grins understanding know what She means...
aye...role play!! to enter and announce how one got there, rather than simply "being there"....chuckles
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 12:58:30 CST *unless you want to leave it behind for some work done on it LOL, but that is just RP Blade, has nothing to do with the topic at hand S*
Rollo_the_Ax 12:59:46 CST ????? Did I screw up the start time ??????? DAMN!!!!!!!!!! well, no use crying over spilled ale I guess......LOL..... Tal, and greetings all.... what is the topic????
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 13:00:56 CST but now.. I post about either walking the streets of PortKar or coming from My place.. usually leaving tassa there to tend to things or in keeping furs warm
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 13:01:29 CST Rollo the topic is this.
Ok here is our first topic:
Travelling from city to city or region to region in Gor. Should this be realistic and not the “magical” appearing in one site within a few minutes of leaving that site in another?
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:01:44 CST *You must live close to the tavern then Shadowhawk as I still ride My tarn from time to time S*
lil_trouble_H_K_ 13:01:50 CST ~*Speaking quietly*~
trouble agrees with what was said earlier...post the tarn landing...getting out of the basket, paying the tarnsman...and walking to wherever Yyou are going. OR if it's an owned tarn...flying it in..landing, getting off it...and whatever else needs to be done. Then post an entry to where Yyou are.
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 13:02:08 CST well said Mistress...and so true...though topaz has noticed that many Master do enter here posting something at least other than a simple Tal and greetings....like Master Forest, Master Blade, Master Hawk...to name a couple
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 13:02:25 CST Forest now as member.. I come from My place.. as stated a moment ago.. instead of from afar.. before I had once also flew to Ar to visit One.. even gave topaz a ride back on My tarn coming back to Tavern..
Laroona 13:03:38 CST Also lets look at slaves travelling alone, it is not done in the books.
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:04:34 CST *that would be up the their owners Laroona S*
Laroona 13:05:53 CST alone Captain Forest?
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 13:05:57 CST true Mistress Laroona, and topaz has only travelled 3 maybe 4 times...she has no desire to travel as this is home...one of the times was for a dance contest, the other was she was beckoned to Ar...grins to master Hawk again in thanks...and can't remember the other time or two
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:06:19 CST *no way topaz, to hard, I will just miss some things or come in late for them LOL*
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:06:51 CST *well if their owners aren't worried about their slaves to much, then yes alone S*
Laroona 13:08:02 CST When I enter the Piazza, I may have walked down the streets, looked at the rogue vendors etc etc... it is what I consider role playing an entry ... and it is only my thoughts
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:08:10 CST *but of course on gor, a slave travelling alone is easy picking for slavers and such Laroona, but it still comes down to their owner's S*
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 13:08:42 CST I think if there are no issues between the sites, and both sites have agreed to the rules and the honor of the kolar's.
Then the slaves should feel comfortable in being there.
Now the traveling to get there may be another story.
Knowing if I was lonesome on the road and a naked slave wandered by, well I would not necessarily listen to her claim of no sex. *WEG*
Thinking hmmmmm a new type of role play going through My mind. *S*
Rollo_the_Ax 13:09:59 CST Lets try and find some * middle ground * here folks.... I mean, YES, we are trying to make the RP aspects of our Gorean actions as real as we can........ BUT, the very nature of the internet and being * on-line * will ALWAYS make it necessary to * bend * the ways things will happen.... As has been said, y'all really want to have to wait a few hours/days/weeks....between going to sites because in the books they were hundreds/thousands of miles apart ????? NOPE !!!!!!
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 13:10:26 CST nods as she hears the Mistress....
aye, topaz has always heard You speak of something or other like that...chuckles... tis like topaz, she also tries to post something about racing down the street, grabbing her now fixed camisk...etc...
*grins at the Lady Laroona*
Laroona 13:10:41 CST Captain Forest indeed as Owners wishes always come before others LOl I just find it unrealistic myself, considering the distances travelled LOL
galah{RA} 13:10:51 CST hheheeee yes Master Paedur, a slave in the book could be running an errand for her Master and someone decides to take the girl and use her right then and there....when the girl returns to her Master, she gets beat for being late heheheeee
lil_trouble_H_K_ 13:11:14 CST When trouble travels...she always posts about the tarn ride she was given. The landing...getting out of the basket...etc.
~*Smiling.*~
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:12:27 CST *on RT gor it would be unrealistic Laroona, but this is VT gor and travelling long distances is just a push of a button S*
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 13:14:05 CST Hmmmm thinking if that slave was My Own, then I could use and abuse her. *WEG*
Damn I am beginning to like this place more and more. *VBS*
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 13:14:33 CST ahh but Rollo.. it had also been brought up.. it is proper to still be in another Gor room while popping into another?
Laroona 13:15:14 CST so travelling alone is a risk all slaves take, and Owners who let same occur should have no issues if slave was raped or worse LOL
Rollo_the_Ax 13:16:06 CST Let us remember that with ALL aspects of on-line Gor, there always HAS been and always WILL be the need to * make exceptions or bend the way things happen * simply because even though we ALL * play * the parts of whatever character we choose......be it slave, Master, FW, or whatever..... there is ALWAYS the fact that the person BEHIND the keyboard... is a REAL human.... and subject to RT whims and desires....
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 13:16:32 CST ShadowHawk.
For slaves it is inappropriate and against Our rules.
a salve shall only have THIS site open when she is here in GS in Gor.
she will not have other chat sites open, be it Gor BDSM, chit chat, or what ever.
her focus will be shall be always here when she is here, without question.
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:17:00 CST *If the owners let their slaves travel alone they have to take the risk it involves as well Laroona S*
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:19:22 CST *if You are talking about a FP in another gor room while in GS Shadowhawk, it would depend on the FP, it depends on what they are doing in each room?*
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 13:19:45 CST Master Hawk, tis wrong and against the rules for a slave to be in more than one place at a time as for the Free, topaz personally thinks it shows disrespect to others to do so....*smiles softly*
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 13:20:25 CST Forest and Paedur.. I am not saying one way or other.. I was telling Rollo what was originally brought up.. if You two missed that.. then read what is said.. not as thoughts but updating Rollo.. understood??
galah{RA} 13:20:26 CST for slaves that is a rule, for the free it would be courteous and the right thing to do.....to many times i have seen free at many sites at the same time, and they are being served and of course they can't watch the serve for they are to busy elsewhere....so why have a slave serve? i never can understand that, if a free is going to be sooo uncurtious as to be multi-tasking, then they should not ask one to work...imo
Rollo_the_Ax 13:21:21 CST Travelling is one thing, Hawk...... but * being * in two or more rooms at the same time ?????? THAT reeks of * playing games * and NOT showing the proper RESPECT for the actions or attentions you are doing in EITHER.... at least to MY way of thinking...... almost into * dualing * in My book....( but everybody also knows that Rollo can't multitask for SHIT !! so the action is not a thing that I could do even if a really wanted to,,,,,which I DON'T )
Laroona 13:21:40 CST well said galah *s* I have a hard time keeping up in one room let alone try another LOL
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:22:10 CST *little bit hard to read what was said if I wasn't here Shadowhawk and next time say what you mean, understood*
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 13:22:15 CST Nods to Shadowhawk.
Well it is a good reminder to the slaves.
I have to post that anyways on the slave boards.
Thanks for the reminder.
Penny 13:22:17 CST *agreeing with galah*
The girls put so much effort into what they do, it would be exceptionally rude to be in two places at once (for Free), especially if being served.
galah{RA} 13:22:26 CST really.....reality can only go so far online, but no one can be in Port Kar and in another city at the exact same time....well, no one could even be in one tavern of Port kar and another tavern of port kar at the same time
Zoran 13:23:44 CST to give all your attention is the only way in any room
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 13:24:33 CST grins as she hears the understanding and support for being in one place at a time...chuckles as she hears master Rollo speak of multi tasking!!!
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 13:24:37 CST but as far as the thoughts of the FP..
I disagree.. rules should apply for everybody.. not certain select.. as
I see it.. WHY would anybody want to be in two rooms at once?.. can't get enough cyber or something??
Rollo_the_Ax 13:24:46 CST In the long run, I think it boils down to the simple facts that 1. the FREE can do as they wish as long as they are willing to answer for their actions ANYWHERE 2. slaves often wish to travel also, and as long as they are NOT restricted and their collars are acknowledged in other sites, what is the harm ??? who wants to sit in an empty room
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 13:27:27 CST I did Forest.. I said to Rollo.. not Forest or thrown out for anybody.. SAVE Rollo.. enough be said.. *firm nod*
Rollo.. I agree.. in My book constitutes as dualing as well.. and I also agree with galah.. enough slaves complain about not being watched.. tho they are s'posed to come up with elaborate slaves.. kind of catch 22.. you have to.. but I don't have to watch.. which in RP is complete.. bs
Zoran 13:27:42 CST it seems simple to me it goes back to respect of what Gor is , when a button push away there are folks to be with ???? NOBODY ......
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:28:29 CST *most rules are for the slaves Shadowhawk, a FP can do whatever they wish within limits of course,and there would be certain reasons for a FP to be in two rooms at once if need be, for one, I as a Captain come into GS and stay in here even if no one is here to make an appearance and be here if need be, but I also go into poolside while I am in there when no one is there? S*
Kayla 13:28:47 CST But it is not dualing .. not polite but not dualing ~smiles softly as I listen~
Rollo_the_Ax 13:29:21 CST As many here have seemed to indicate in their thoughts..... The act of being in more than one place at the same time seems to Me to be a serious indication of lack of respect for either place, or of anybody in either place.... and if we don't respect others, how can we respect OURSELVES ??????
Laroona 13:30:41 CST I always try and comment during a serve!!
Yes I multi task as I am often reading up on my RT but that is NOT being rude just practical, and left while I am being served
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 13:30:55 CST How would you define dualing lady kayla?
Zoran 13:31:39 CST well said Rollo
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 13:32:07 CST aye Master Rollo...respect is the keyword...smiles
galah{RA} 13:32:49 CST many slaves are restricted from travels, and even more slaves are restricted from sexually serving in an alcove and such....but where is the RESPECT on gor when the Free restrict their slaves from serving a simple drink?
Rollo_the_Ax 13:32:50 CST that may well be a matter of semantics kalya.... if not polite, is it not then a sign of disrespect also ????? we have so many rules and laws about this and that action and such...... WHY ????? the need for laws of ANY kind is NOT to restrict the honest or honorable....but to police those that do NOT act so........
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 13:33:19 CST smiles at Mistress Laroona...exactly...and the comments show a girl her efforts are indeed being watched, and is soooo appreciated...as her very heart goes into each and every serve, dance, whatever she is doing for the Free
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 13:34:38 CST claps...well said galah!!! restricted from sexual use is one thing...to be restricted from serving a simple drink is another!!
squishy{Sg}fg 13:34:57 CST snuggles close to her lil sis.... smiling and nodding as to agree with Master Rollo... but not saying a word
es_belle~{T} 13:35:32 CST if she may say what if the girl is restricted from serving only One Master/Mistress? and yes ok its a Respect thing but what if that Master/Mistress was disrespectful to them first?
squishy{Sg}fg 13:35:37 CST ~nodding and givin' galah the thumbs up~
Kayla 13:35:54 CST ~smiles at Paedur~
Oh I would say by using a different name.. in the same place or another Gorean place. being a slave and a Free also at the same time in same or different places.
But sometimes if something is happening somewhere .. A person.. a FP may jump to another site to take care of something... without logging out knowing they will be gone a short time..
sev/rain{Sg} 13:36:10 CST *smiles as she glances over at her sister, snuggling close to her but remains quiet listening*
~es_belle~{T} 13:36:30 CST how can one show respect when no respect is given to begin with?
Laroona 13:36:34 CST I have difficuly in understanding why any one of any Homestone restricts a slave from serving any of that Home
IMO...
galah{RA} 13:36:41 CST thank you mistress paz....its just not right so thought this be the place to say so
Rollo_the_Ax 13:37:09 CST In any society, it is the will of the MANY that dictates what is right or wrong.... but there will always be those that thumb their noses at the rules simply because they feel that * they * are above them or SHOULD be...
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 13:37:38 CST Listens.
SO to be more than one role is dualing, but is that at the same time or in one place a Free, and in another place a slave?
But I do see the point of dealing with something in another site, but then I think They still should leave one site before going to the other.
Even if they post a rti or something and then returns.
galah{RA} 13:37:58 CST respect to you belle?
lara{Zor} 13:38:09 CST lara respects all and expects no respect in turn...just the right to live another moment
halima_GS 13:39:02 CST how can a Master disrespect a slave?.. she is property.. cattle.. He has every right to expect her to BE a slave...to act like one *quiet nod*
galah{RA} 13:39:19 CST good lara....very good....a slave has NO right to demand or expect respect....its not our place, we are slaves
Laroona 13:39:26 CST A Free is a Free no matter!!! some Free are less tolerant than others and others are just plain weak and coddle slaves
~es_belle~{T} 13:39:32 CST well no Oone gives a rats ass if this slave is respected but to insult their Master/Mistress, that upsets Them then They restrict.. *waving hand* oh never mind im just getting things all jumbled now *l*
Penny 13:39:48 CST Isn't it just being somewhat of a busybody to feel a need to jump with rapidity from one site to another anyway? Why not worry about the concerns of one place rather than be watching ten places at once in the first place?
lara{Zor} 13:40:03 CST smiles to galah, see a brat did learn something from ya sis...gigglin...she did listen in class way back when
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:40:05 CST *a Master does not need to respect a slave but a slave must respect the Free, it is the way of gor belle*
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 13:40:06 CST belle, regardless of whether or not respect is given.
you are slave, and so you owe at least publicly and in posts be it spoken or thought.
Respect must be garnered to ALL Free with in that room, no matter what.
and I mean no matter what, even if you absolutely hate this Free, you will treat them publicly with respect that befits your Master and His home.
~es_belle~{T} 13:41:05 CST i never said i disrespected Any nor will i ever, simply because in RT my father taught me "treat others the way that you want to be treated" so that’s how i live life in RT and CT and VT i was just making a comment. *sits quietly now*
galah{RA} 13:41:06 CST its not your place belle...simple as that...you do your job to the best of your ability, to any and all free....if there is a problem, the free solve that among themselves, and not by restricting a slave from serving a drink
Laroona 13:36:34 CST I have difficulty in understanding why any one of any Homestone restricts a slave from serving any of that Home
IMO...
Laroona 13:42:52 CST I repeat my earlier post that sort of got lost *S*
~es_belle~{T} 13:43:02 CST nor is it my place to tell my Master "Nope sorry i have to do this not what You tell me" because them im disrespecting HIS wishes
galah{RA} 13:43:10 CST that comment of your father is a good one belle, and for our urthen lives, it befits all to live by that....but sis, not on gor!!!!! you could use that saying among sisters, treat your sisters like you wish to be treated, but not use it among the free to a slave
Rollo_the_Ax 13:43:43 CST Aye, Kayla.... that may well be one accepted definition of * dualing * using two or more names or being more than one type of persons.... but doesn't it also seem within the same scope of actions to BE in more that one * place or room * to show the same level of contempt or lack of respect to BOTH places ????????
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:43:57 CST *that comes down to the owner once again Laroona, it might be petty but it is their chose to restrict a slave at whatever they want to*
galah{RA} 13:44:44 CST i never said it was your fault belle, its a free not showing respect to his home or to his fellow free, its simply NOT gorean to restrict in that way
Kayla 13:45:24 CST respect is deserved by all.. even to slaves.. that they are humans and real people behind the keyboard
Laroona 13:45:37 CST Captain Forest when it is directed to One particular person it could be seen as vindictive against One *S*
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 13:46:42 CST *true Laroona, but another Free cannot tell another Free what they can and cannot do with their own slave*
lil_trouble_H_K_ 13:47:17 CST Aye Mistress.
trouble knows full well when speaking to Free of any sort she is to be respectful...of course she hasn't always practiced what she preaches...she learned. But when it comes to thinking about the people behind the keyboard...when trouble doesn't receive respect either...even as the measly slave flesh she is...it still hurts
Laroona 13:47:30 CST Kayla I beg to differ
Respect is not deserved by all it is earnt and more so by Free, In Gor slaves serve irrespective of respect they feel in their hearts or head
Kayla 13:48:23 CST I disagree but then Rollo You knew I would ~grins~
I restrict Mine from serving one of My home because the Man has proven to have no honor in My opinion and it is My right as a Free Person
squishy{Sg}fg 13:49:14 CST just raises an eyebrow...
Rollo_the_Ax 13:49:19 CST As for the need to rush off to somewhere and help for whatever reason.... ???? Like I said, kayla...... to My way of thinking, if you are going to be somewhere, you should be TOTALLY there and not some form of fractured entity... ghostly giving limited attention to 2 or more places....
Zoran 13:49:20 CST I may be confuse but a slave is property and if there master is a asshole to his slave it his to do the respect thing I thought was a BDSM thing?
galah{RA} 13:49:20 CST slaves might be loved, cherished, cared for, beaten, starved, and much more, deciding what a Master wants, and she might even earn a lil respect, but respect is not a given to a slave, respect need not be shown to a slave
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 13:49:26 CST and it is thoughts like that Emerald.. that will kill GS..
if that Free has an issue with Me.. have then approach..
are they cowards?.. since Takuk has no email to write if someOne has an issue with His.. I took it up with Paedur a whisper was dropped.. that is what started it with belle.
she has been coddled her entire time under Kayla..
do as she wishes.. now she has to own up to those problems..
I have been told to calm down.. give her time..
but when she repeatedly treats Me as second class..
I WILL NOT stand for it.. used rag to clean My tankard..
or her openly expressing thoughts of disrespect for others to read.. completely flagrant
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 13:50:02 CST *sighs softly and simply shifts slightly, getting more comfortable*
Laroona 13:51:18 CST Kayla you openly saying one of your home has not honour wowwwwwwwwwwww that is one huge statement from a FW
~es_belle~{T} 13:51:39 CST with all due respect Master Hawk, i never disrespected You and Mistress Laroona is a testament that i serve You like i serve all else, if You have a problem with me then beat me put a knife to my throat and kill me honestly Master i try my best to make You happy but it seems that every time i try You still are not satisfied. So be it, my Master dealt with it the best way He could so many times He has told me to try again and serve again and keep respecting You and i will, and calling my Master a Coward behind His back seems more cowardly then anything else
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 13:51:42 CST BOL... there is only One here with no honor.. and Wwe all know who that is.. *nods firmly*
Kayla 13:51:47 CST I think a level of respect is due all... even those I don't agree with or like.. even those I hate with a passion... But again that is My opinion and I think slaves mean more than a title.. and have great worth
squishy{Sg}fg 13:52:36 CST Goes to open her mouth... then shuts up... biting her tongue HARD
tassa{Hawk} 13:53:12 CST her eyes going wide as she listens to the conversation around her
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 13:53:24 CST reaching out to grab squishy's hair jerking a bit as I I see her take a breath.
knowing.......
galah{RA} 13:53:34 CST okay....lets take an urthn look here....how long would a barmaid keep her job, or a pub owner his pub if he didn't serve everyone? respect is shown even to the drunkards and the bums, and the loudmouths....for that is the way life is
Laroona 13:54:40 CST if respect in your opinion is deserved by all Kayla then you are not giving it
Penny 13:54:55 CST you know what, guys? I can't believe I'm even reading some of the baloney I'm reading here. People saying "My slave can't serve so and so", or "I don't like so and so, and I'm going to be ugly and say things in *thoughts*, so it doesn't count.
Do you guys know how ridiculous and petty that sounds? I can't even believe this is coming from adults. If you don't like someone, so what? Not everyone likes everyone in this world. This nonsense sounds like elementary kids saying "Don't talk to so and so or you won't be my friend anymore". It's stupid coming from children, and even stupider coming from adults.
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 13:54:56 CST *hearing belle*
I did not call Takuk coward.. but all the Frees that have issues.. save One. that did approach Me.. We talked it over and it was decided by both.. restrictions were best for Us both.. but He was the only One to approach..
Zoran 13:55:37 CST think this seem to be a personal problem and wonder if the Forum is the right place for such discussions
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 13:55:40 CST simply lowers her head and shakes it softly as she hears what is being said, thinking it a sad thing indeed to be happening in GS, our beloved Home, but like squishy, bites her tongue as she is but slave
Rollo_the_Ax 13:55:52 CST LOL... "I restrict Mine from serving one of My home because the Man has proven to have no honor in My opinion and it is My right as a Free Person " and YET, kalya....should the SAME person do so to YOU, it would be seen as a slap in the face and an insult....right ???? The simple fact remains that NO PERSON should expect to receive that which they are NOT willing to give others...... Rank, position, status.... are NOT things that ANY person is OWED !!!! they are rewards or acknowledgements for actions done and EARNED !!!! and once lost by misdeed are all the harder to get back....
lil_trouble_H_K_ 13:56:05 CST trouble agrees Master Zoran
*-A small nod-*
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 13:56:13 CST Listening to that word Honor being bantered around.
Being a Bastard, a hard ass, a pain in the ass does not make One without Honor.
Saying Your opinion respectfully, even is disagreeing also does not make One without Honor.
What makes One with out Honor, is Not holing up what You gave Your word to do.
Every Pledged here gave their word to defend this Home, to honor the Council’s decisions, and to protect this home with their lives.
So when any ONE does not honor that pledge, then they have NO honor.
halima_GS 13:56:36 CST *totally agrees with Mistress Penny.. clamping down hard on an imminent explosion*
Laroona 13:58:08 CST Zoran nothing personal at all it generalisations and I always name people I am responding to *S8 unless I make a statement for all *S*
galah{RA} 13:58:13 CST i can even see a gorean Master restrict his slave from some new HNG that comes in and doesn't know our ways....but to deny service to a pledged? if a Master doesn't like the service he gets from a slave, then its for him to decide not to have that slave serve him again, not for others of the same home to deny a free the service of a drink
Laroona 13:58:38 CST *claps* well said Penny *nodding*
Zoran 13:58:52 CST lol I was not saying of you Lar
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 14:00:25 CST *that’s true galah, but a Free can still, do whatever they wish with their slave, whether it is restrictions or other things*
shirin{Orion} 14:00:32 CST ~*~remains quiet, listening~*~
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:00:43 CST *nodding in agreement with Rollo* and Captain.. I shall never restrict tassa nor any other slave I believe worthy to be Mine.. from Any here.. it is between Me.. and Them.. not what is Mine..
Kayla 14:00:47 CST No I don't care if a slave is restricted from serving Me Rollo... and in some cases it is best for all.. it is life.. some personalities rub the wrong way.. as a matter of a fact I have seen a Man restrict His slave from having RT contact with Me.... and if she carried it to RT then I would have to accept that as well...
Zoran 14:01:17 CST but like Rollo said if you do so know it may be thrown back on you
Laroona 14:02:20 CST RT contact NO slave is under any obligation to give out any RT information so that is a moot point
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:02:21 CST There are other sides of not having Honor, by lying, cheating, being deceitful, to hurt One or one.
To play games with in One’s home or other homes.
To try to work Mutiny against the Captains or Council here.
I can go on with such a long list but I know ALL here know what honor is, in every aspect, as defined by the role play and by Gor. *S*
galah{RA} 14:02:26 CST just how far will these restrictions go? purdy soon we will see some tell there slaves not even to come into the tavern if one certain person is in? this is NO way to show respect and loyalty to ones home, its only a drink for heavens sake
halima_GS 14:02:46 CST so You would not be upset then Master Forest if there are two of You in the Tavern and a girl serves the other Master and ignores You totally?.. You'd be fine with that? *blinks*.. *shakes her head*..
Rollo_the_Ax 14:03:01 CST Finally something I can agree with, Kayla.... slaves having worth...... I have said it bebore, and I will say it again I am sure...... in * MY * opinion, it is 10 times as hard for slaves to come here and be proper slaves, than it is for 90% of many FREE to come here and do the same...... slaves are held to STRICT rules and actions.... many Free think it just some silly game to play at when they are bored ...... RESPECT is a two edged sword....it cuts BOTH ways...... if you are NOT willing to GIVE it, you damned sure better not EXPECT it !!!!!!!
squishy{Sg}fg 14:03:30 CST Gives Mistress Penny the thumbs up!
Kayla 14:03:37 CST ~just shaking My head as I listen~... seems to Me if several people are doing the same thing then the problem is with the Free they are being restricted from.. not the owners that are doing the restrictions.. this is not about clicks or a club this is in response to issues that have transpired and are being dealt with
galah{RA} 14:04:59 CST well, i think its wrong....and perhaps the council will have to make a rule that ALL slaves will serve...ooooohhh wait, i think there was already a rule that says that
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 14:06:11 CST *if they was two of Me in the tavern hali,I would be a bit worried, but if they was two masters in the room and you served the other and not me because of your restrictions then I would be fine with it as I would honour the restriction S*
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:07:03 CST seems to Me.. that you have many followers Kayla.. since Aall know it is tween Me and You.. but your bois are joining right on in
squishy{Sg}fg 14:07:12 CST smiles and nods agreeing with Master Rollo's words
Zoran 14:07:23 CST stands UP
ok I am confused I thought Forum was here to learn all I have heard is the same horse beaten again and again I am new to Gor and use to Love the Forum but of late I have learn little of Gor sit back down
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 14:07:34 CST *there is galah, all slaves must serve the Free unless they have restrictions placed upon them by their owners*
galah{RA} 14:07:58 CST slaves are to beg entrance, come in and greet, then offer serve.....but not to you Master, for girl ain't allowed to serve you.....now that’s gorean? NOT!!!
Kayla 14:08:15 CST if it was one person that man be Laroona but since it is more than one Free restricting slaves then I think it is a matter of a problem with the way that Free acts with Others property
squishy{Sg}fg 14:08:19 CST winks to galah and just smiles*
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:08:33 CST I am sorry listening to the diatribe about Shadowhawk.
He is a Bastard at times yes.
and an Impatient One at times. LOL
and HE is hard at times Yes.
But HE is also holding to His Own personality and His role play.
He doesn't deviate from that often.
Even privately He is this way.
From what I have seen and I do not see it all, but He has been with in His rights as a Gorean Warrior and a pledged Here to take issue.
My only problem with Him is His impatience with postings, but then I have also seen some slaves purposely post slowly.
and that has been addressed. *S*
Dak 14:08:58 CST well, after reading some 20 books, I find restrictions to be unGorean except as punishment for the slave other wise it is petty on the part of the Free doing the restricting from what I've read Gorean Males were not the jealous types
lara{Zor} 14:09:03 CST she looks at her Master then back...
a girl could not understand no serving a Certain Free...no matter what...she has served those she is scared of and those she hates...and silly her actually opened up and found that she liked Them and They weren’t scary...what is the purpose of being here if you aren’t able to serve those that need it?
Rollo_the_Ax 14:09:20 CST When Gorean RP becomes only a game to anybody, is it any surprise that they would be more than willing to use others as simple pawns ????? restrict a slave NOT to protect her, but to piss off somebody ???? Use bad manners to ignore or insult another FREE person, but expect or demand that others don't do the same to you ?????
Kayla 14:10:27 CST neither would be sex restrictions in a paga Tavern galah... but it is done because it is the wish of the Free.. when is any One going to dictate to a Free Person what they can and can not do with what is theirs?
Laroona 14:10:29 CST Bahhhhhh
Zoran 14:11:12 CST that is why you are not restricted lara as thou as I agree it is not right lilone
galah{RA} 14:11:16 CST **claps for her Masters statement**
Jaeger_s_kath 14:11:30 CST Master Zoran, a girl is sorry that little has been learned of Gor this night. However, to put it simply...Gor is a man's world. All women are subject to the honor and will of Freemen. Freewoman are just a collar away from a slave, and slaves are to be pleasing at all times. kath sincerely hopes that helps
Laroona 14:11:45 CST Well said Captain Rollo *S*
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 14:11:46 CST agrees with gaah....that ALL slaves will serve!!!...then grins as she knows it is a rule.... but still, perhaps an additional response from the Council about the serving of a drink to a Free is NOT to be denied...like she said, a drink....shakes my head
galah{RA} 14:12:14 CST never....NEVER in all the years of GS, did we have such petty free persons to restrict a slave from serving a drink
Penny 14:12:27 CST *listening to Rollo and nodding absolute agreement*
halima_GS 14:12:43 CST forgive me Master Forest.. but.. i think it's bullshit.. this whole.. thing.. it's stupid and childish.. and reeks of D/s and not of Gor.. *firm nod*.. and frankly.. i think if a slave is restricted as like.. she should NOT be in the Tavern serving.. period.. let them stay in the Piazza where they can't get their little feelings hurt.. or better yet.. at the Thassa Inn.. where they are more than welcome..
and if Any find that disrespectful, so be it..
i've been on Gor enough to know that petty ploys to oust One from a homestone will only grow. i came to GS to learn and grow and lately.. the only growth i've seen in and around this site has been children with their "My daddy can beat up Your daddy" crap.
i respect and admire Master Hawk.. He brought me here with tales of how great this place was.. how wonderful.. and since i've been here all i've seen are VERY few kajira, a lot of slaves.. and far too many princesses.. *eyes narrowing*.. as for the Free.. You set the standard here.. it is up to YOU to make or break this place.. not the slaves.. if You don't expect us to BE slaves.. then we are useless.. and if You don't act like Free Men and Free Woman.. with honor, loyalty and respect.. then this place…is nothing more than a Cyber hotel..
*leans over.. brushes a kiss over Master Shadowhawk's cheek and walks out*
Laroona 14:12:49 CST Zoran it is learning and I believe the topic has moved some *S*
Zoran 14:13:08 CST nodds to kath
thank you
Rollo_the_Ax 14:13:14 CST " Shaking My bald head and sighing deeply...." What can be said, Zoran ???? we can only play the cards we are dealt.... the forum is here to either discuss ideas, or to try and fix stuff that happened during the week......
squishy{Sg}fg 14:13:33 CST looking towards galah and Mouthing "Right On!"
halima_GS 14:14:49 CST *pauses and turns to Mistress Kayla.. grinds out*.. and isn't it amazing that those Frees restricting their slaves are YOUR cronies?.. gee.. color me surprised..
*leaves*
Zoran 14:14:54 CST I see little learning in it but I do see hidden swords behind each word on both sides is all I am saying LAr
Kayla 14:15:24 CST well I don't know what others are doing but My restrictions are in place to protect My slaves... and that is My right.. as it is the others that have done the same. I am not going down My list here of issues I have with the Man in a Forum.. as others have said it is not a place for here. I have talked to Him before and He agreed to the restrictions... if He is changing His tune now then that is His problem... But I will not allow an issue that He has with Me to be the cause of danger to those I own..
It is bad enough that He says things about people when they are not here like calling them cowards or bois... But That too will come back to bite Him I am sure
galah{RA} 14:15:29 CST yeah halima!!!!! well said!!!!
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:15:46 CST *grabbing hold of hali's hair.. pulling her down to My feet* you ARE going no where hali.. here you can speak your piece.. if not.. then Wwe shall both leave
lara{Zor} 14:15:55 CST she smiles as she hears her sis...agreein with her
Zoran 14:16:10 CST nodds to Rollo I understand that Captain but I see little can be change but I do understand
Jaeger_s_kath 14:16:34 CST Oh Master Zoran ~ another thing ~ Thassa eyes turn to look directly to Mistress Kayla~ if one cannot play by the rules and intent of a site, then that person should take their balls and go to their own home...now looking directly at Master Haplo and sighing...i believe they are sitting right next to You, Mistress Kayla. A girl has every expectation of being punished by the Captains for what a girl has just said.
lara{Zor} 14:17:13 CST what do You need to protect a slave from? Master ShadowHawk as never killed a slave…He may be tough and at times strict on us...but never known one to die...and lara knows that different Master like different types of serves...and its always a learnin thing
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:17:22 CST and I still agree with it.. Kayla if you noted in My post.. I said only ONe approached.. We believed it the best for Us both.. or can you not read?
Laroona 14:17:23 CST Kayla you have a Man to protect your slaves I understand are now co-owned by both!!! you are a FW and cannot enter the tavern and after all you and he would rule on any issues *shrugs*
squishy{Sg}fg 14:17:31 CST ~applauds halima then gives her the thumbs up and winks~
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:17:38 CST Hearing Kayla.
and thinks I would like to see Shadowhawk in a good fight.
So maybe soon Whomever is gonna bite His ass would do so. *WEG*
Then I can see what His weakness’ are in battle and maybe teach Him a bit when I get Him in the Pits. LOL
lil_trouble_H_K_ 14:17:44 CST ~*Eyes wide just listening to the mouths of the slaves here...fingers still roaming in the fur of Mistress' slippers.*~
Kayla 14:18:13 CST well insults are free this night even from slaves ~chuckling~
tavelia{MDK}/{Paedur} 14:18:44 CST agrees totally with halima
well said....
beats off the urts from her feet again and she settles back again
Haplo 14:18:51 CST ahhh, I am the cause of am I kath???
because of me Kayla suddenly changed, even though others says she is the one controlling me? *chuckles*
Y'all need to get together and keep the petty insults straight
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:18:52 CST Shadowhawk,
and I shall pas this on to halima when I see her next.
she as Any can speak their minds here with no reproach.
with the exception of course of calling One out for battle.
Then well.... *WEG*
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 14:19:20 CST well said halima!!
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:19:52 CST grabs squishy's hair and arches her head back to simply look her in the eyes. Knowing she knows what need not be said. *S*
Rollo_the_Ax 14:19:57 CST Like any time you get many ppl together to try and do the same thing or interact...... you will get * clicks * or little clubs of folks that think/act/ or do the same stuff.... so is ANYBODY really surprised when those of the * WE hate so and so * club ALL do something like restrict their slaves???????? LOL...LOL.... Nope.... it only goes to show y'all that if you piss off the head snake, expect to get fanged by the whole pack...or gaggle... I forget what a group of snakes is called ????? a Click ???? LOL..
Laroona 14:20:02 CST You insulted GS Kayla all over the Gor by your very words and you very actions and even here you call on some saying they have no honour you appear to have no concept of honour you say all deserve respect... yet you do not give it
Zoran 14:20:04 CST looks to lara and laita making sure they both bite there tongues
Haplo 14:20:17 CST anytime Paedur, but we do it at a neutral place
galah{RA} 14:20:27 CST Mistress Kayla, if you are sooo worried about protection for your slaves, and for you....then why do you stay at GS? there is no one in danger here and you know that...but the one you don't like didn't get banned as you wanted to happen, so you do the next best thing....and its a childish thing to do, its not done on gor....its a drink for heavens sake....you have admitted openly that you stir the pot cause of boredom, so you come to the weekly forum to have such a good time?
Kayla 14:21:07 CST how the slaves are controlled by US is My concern.. Mine and Haplo's and none other.. and AS Hawk just said .. He agreed to the restrictions because of Our mutual issues... so why should any one else here bitch about it????
lara{Zor} 14:21:41 CST but Master, she looks up at Him...that is crazy not to be able to serve a drink...lara has learned, she has had herself yanked by the hair and tied up before, she has been whipped for servin badly...and she will still run to that person and beg to serve them for she knows she is learnin
squishy{Sg}fg 14:21:46 CST whimpers as dark eyes meet Master Paedurs... biting her tongue ... knowing full well what he is talking about
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:21:50 CST Smiles to haplo.
Hell WE can do it in Ar.
Seems that Renegade and Ashe seem to respect Me there.
and it is your old stomping ground.
and I would trust Duncan to be the third.
Hell I will be there on Saturday, perhaps You can throw your head in the pot and see what luck brings you. *S*
Jaeger_s_kath 14:22:02 CST Oh no, Master Haplo, indeed You are not. Mistress Kayla has been this way a long long time. It is just that Master offers support.
Zoran 14:22:58 CST lara and your Master knows this looks to her again
Haplo 14:23:29 CST *chuckles* and the other 2 Paedur?
death matches require 5
you choose one, I will, the judges can choose the others
tassa{Hawk} 14:24:20 CST *shaking her head as she listens to the talk of death matches, wondering what exactly is to be proved from that*
Laroona 14:24:24 CST then if you and Hawk have sorted it out Kayla well and good, but it still does not exclude others of your ex-slaves *shrugs* or to Dak
Haplo 14:24:32 CST I am my own person kath, I do what I do because of what I see, irregardless of Kayla, and I always will.
Kayla 14:24:47 CST I am not going to continue this argument.. I have done what I think is best.. with the approval of the Man I live with. I have never asked another Free of GS to follow suit in the action. they have done that of their own accord.
and Laroona.. I am tired of your words about saying what I have done in other places. I have been more than loyal to GS.. Your opinion carries no weight with Me..
galah{RA} 14:24:53 CST because it makes GS look bad Mistress Kayla....to have slaves not serving certain free, agreement or not, GS has strived to be as gorean as possible, and your doing your best to disneyfy it...its not right!!!
Laroona 14:25:04 CST eeeeer this is a Forum or am I mistaken that challenges be issued here LOL
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 14:25:05 CST *looks up at Master Paedur, her amber eyes begging Him not to do this...as it will accomplish nothing....*
Haplo 14:25:07 CST and then Hawk, as you think I am such a boi, after I have healed from Paedurs, you can step up next
lil_trouble_H_K_ 14:25:27 CST ~*Raising an eyebrow to the one known as kath... biting my tongue near blood to keep words down mouth has got me in trouble before*~
Rollo_the_Ax 14:25:41 CST Changed Haplo ???????? in what ways ????? the only noticeable change is with partners....
Haplo 14:26:00 CST go for it trouble, as they like to say, anything said or done here is without consequence
Kayla 14:26:29 CST That is none of Your concern Lar.. That is My business..
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:26:39 CST galah.. can you honestly say one time that She has not done such?..
Haplo 14:26:40 CST thats kinda my point Rollo *chuckles*
keep having people telling me how Kayla is my mistress now *chuckles* all thats changed, is who I am with, and where I am
Laroona 14:26:45 CST Kayla then it is for you to judge me, but wash my words away if you wish your harsh words going against the wishes and orders of GS recently are lasting forever .. so I do and will question your loyalty
lara{Zor} 14:27:04 CST looks at her Master...but Master...its crazy, every week its Who shot john crap and nothin ever changes about it...
tavelia{MDK}/{Paedur} 14:27:56 CST just listens....shaking her head...wondering how a forum....got into death challenges
galah{RA} 14:28:00 CST you still consider yourself loyal to GS Mistress Kayla? i don't think so, you was once upon a time, but that got lost somewhere in your rt battles....now why try to keep causing harm to a home you once loved? can't you just go about your way and a new home and leave well enough alone here?
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:28:07 CST *leaning forward wide smile* agreed Haplo.. and after .. I shall deface that "woman" you have there.. *winks, smiling*
Kayla 14:28:21 CST sighs as this disintegrates..
Laroona 14:29:26 CST LOL sigh away Kayla
Haplo she wears your kollar wowwwwwww good make her a proper slave then
*sniggers*
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:29:50 CST how is it honorable or loving a home..
when you sit and conspire.. having slaves to boycott GS.. so it can die.. or show it does not need your support..
or you come in and badger certain Frees in whispers..
where is that love of home and loyalty?
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 14:30:06 CST *ok then folks I think this discussion has carried on enough, it is only going around circles now and getting more heated with each turn, the council will look into it further and maybe come up with a rule that will be good for most and if the time difference has changed then I think this forum is finished for this week*
Zoran 14:30:10 CST grabing lara hair I said stop lilone now throwing her head down to the ground
Haplo 14:30:19 CST Laroona, pray you never find yourself in a capture zone, otherwise I will put a collar back on your neck, and this time, it will not come off
tassa{Hawk} 14:30:24 CST anytime someone doesn't like the rules here, and can run off to a new home they had created because they don't like the rules here, shows disloyalty!! You don't like the rules here?? then go away!! but, don't try to break this place down...just mind your own, and we will ours!!
lara{Zor} 14:30:27 CST she turns around as her Master wishes and shuts up, layin her head on His chest knowin nothing will get solved...
halima_GS 14:30:31 CST *quiet nod*..
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:30:36 CST Laughs at the death match.
Do You truly want THAT Haplo?
What will Kayla do with a head in a jar? LOL
~es_belle~{T} 14:30:42 CST with all do respect Master Halpo *sigh* everything said here has its consequences... because Wwe all hear it as Master Rollo stated in the post of the boards... i have said my peace, and now knowing that my Master and Master Hawk agreed to such terms rests easy in my heart because i know it wasn’t just Master wanting to do what He wanted but an agreement between both men. I can honestly believe that every word said tonight will affect the "role play" that happens in Gor in one way or another, i know it has affected mine already, tonight alone i have learned a few things i knew nothing of. If a Free is not happy with something their slave is doing then do something about it before drastic measures are taken. All should listen to each other instead of hearing what they want to hear or fear to hear "people believe what they want to believe because the either fear it to be true or want it to be true"
Rollo_the_Ax 14:30:49 CST Haplo.... in a few simple words....... SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!! Y'all are so willing to insult others and bad mouth GS, yet think that all you need do is challenge somebody to a fight to fix things ????? LOL...LOL... HERE... * pulling open My shirt to bare My chest....*.... Strike here, in plain sight of all....LOL... with your cyber sword .... what a fucking joke.... Oh. I forgot... you ARE pledged to GS.... but that don't keep you from seeking a position in other sites ????? HONOR ???? LOYALTY ???? you might spell them, but try looking up the MEANINGS.!!!!!!!!!
Kayla 14:31:24 CST galah I am sorry you feel that way about Me... I have done nothing to hurt GS....
Haplo 14:31:26 CST so be it Hawk, remember to bring the deeds to all of your property with you so it makes it easier for me to get them afterwards
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 14:31:40 CST thinking this is Forum...and NO place for death matches ot be issued or accepted....
Master Zoran had a very good point earlier in saying forum was to learn of Gor, GS, and keep up on things happening in our home this has gone from stupid to ridiculous
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:31:44 CST I was simply offering to You the opportunity to spar with Me in Ar. *S* there is a tourney this Saturday. *S*
galah{RA} 14:31:45 CST Master Hawk, the Mistress was a good person in the early days, she helped alot and she was honorable and loyal **deep sigh** those was the days, gs was sooo happy and it was like a big family here
Laroona 14:31:50 CST LMAO Haplo last time you had your opportunity to enter and attempt to collar me at that time, but you did not have the gonads to do so, instead you wanted everyone else to do it for you, you both want realistic role play there was your perfect opportunity.
But no you Kayla decided to attack one persons RT integrity by PMing those present, and by pm’ing me slanderous remarks about another, was an attack on my personal integrity, that was uncalled for and malicious, but then that is how you play the game from behind the back attacks.
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:32:34 CST belle.. Takuk and I had agreed bout nothing.. nor had We talked.. I was speaking bout Kayla was the only one that had not approached Me.. and irony has it.. She has no balls.. but did approach
Jaeger_s_kath 14:33:15 CST Oh aye, galah, AYE!
Haplo 14:33:29 CST Rollo, I have hawk calling me a boi, I have Paedur commenting on jumping after I fight hawk, you expect me not to respond in kind??
have I sought a position anywhere??? I have people willing to give me rooms in sites *LOL* and no, not SOI *chuckles*
wheat I say, is here in the forum, I do not go around badmouthing GS, other than to comment that there is a load of BS going on here at the moment
Rollo_the_Ax 14:34:08 CST Hawk, Paedur...... I am asking you BOTH to ignore haplo........ his challenge here in the forum is out of place and so null and void...... the forum is where EVERYBODY gets to speak their minds.... if somebody don't like what they hear ?????? it sounds like a PERSONAL problem to ME ........
squishy{Sg}fg 14:34:17 CST looks over to Mistress Laroona and just smiles*
Haplo 14:34:23 CST Paedur, if that previous comment was not aimed at me, I take back my response to it
tavelia{MDK}/{Paedur} 14:35:04 CST Master Haplo.....with all due respect....instead of running around saying about all the BS here....why not try to be around and help make GS better...instead of running off to the Inn at Poolside....or to JAG to that training camp??....if GS is Your home....You wouldn't have such a need for those places...of Your own....NO????
Laroona 14:35:18 CST No Haplo but your woman does and you know it you even go in to clean up her mess
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:35:55 CST Haplo, then You misread what I posted.
I said and I quote.
I look forward to seeing Shadowhawk being bitten in the ass.
then I will get to observe HIS weaknesses and then teach HIM something in the Pits. I do not know WHO would bite Him in the ass over it all.
But I too will not back down in kind to any offer of a spar or match.
Be it one with 3 judges or 5. *S*
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:36:06 CST *hearing Rollo*.. but Rollo..haplo is not pledged to GS.. He gave that up.. on a saturday morning.. enough seen it for it to be so.. to all of sudden say.. its not there now.. so it had not happened??.. I agree with Your words Rollo.. in haplo's cyber world.. honor means nothing.. so long as it comes from his mouth.. which to Me includes his threats and such.. in MY OWN thoughts.. I believe the ban is only answer.. and not one of honor for they will return.. but to Gary.. banned from site.. cuz nothing will change.. so long as they are allowed in.. regardless what hopes and dreams Yyou their old friends have for them..
Jaeger_s_kath 14:36:20 CST *just watching all this*....okay okay. This girl wants to know why, in light of all this evidence of disloyalty and deceit and lies, why Mistress Kayla cannot be banned from the forum and GS.....there...said it....what is it going to take?
EMERALD_FOREST-CAPTAIN 14:36:21 CST *it seems that people in here don't honour Captains either, I stand and throw pepper over My shoulder and heads out, be well all*
~es_belle~{T} 14:36:23 CST i think this "subject" has gone on long enough, next please.
galah{RA} 14:36:32 CST **deep sigh as dark eyes well up with tears** if only that was true Mistress Kayla, you have done heaps, to the point that even galah left her home for new grounds for a time to get away from the problems you was causing here....you can't see what your doing? or you just don't care anymore? you hurt GS simply by being here Mistress, many will not come when you’re here
Haplo 14:36:55 CST I tend not to do either if you've noticed tav *smiles* the only times I've been in the camp, was in response to something else, I haven't been at the inn at all recently.
and I have tried time and time again, and every time, it seems more like it's a personal attack against Kayla, and because she stands with me, against me also
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:37:30 CST Nods to My Captain.
Aye. *S*
My Apologies to You Rollo, for forgetting this is Forum and not the Tavern. Removes My left hand from the hilt of My sword and settles back, remembering this is Forum. *S*
Zoran 14:37:45 CST sigh I have been asked of late why I have not been in as much
well I would rather work in my shop then to be here of late
I once like coming in here and having fun
but any action I make of late is taken as a ploy
I am sick of it
Haplo 14:38:14 CST then, as I said Peadur, ignore my responses to it *smiles*
I am a tad touchy at the moment, is my only excuse for jumping you like that
Kayla 14:38:30 CST tavi the days we have been in JAG were the same days that you and Paedur were there.. and in the Inn?.. both of us have not been in there much at all after the Forum tearing it down...
And I thought the Forums rules were to post with some respect? is that just if You are posting what the Council wants said? or have we gone so far that insults and name calling is ok here by free and slave alike?
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:38:35 CST *hears the Captain.. turning to He.. nodding.. biting tongue*.. done .. Captain..
tavelia{MDK}/{Paedur} 14:38:41 CST head cants
You are Her Man....don't You think that perhaps there is a reason behind the personal attacks....did You stop and actually talk to someone to see why??....instead of throwing threats around about everything.....and trying to bring GS down....act adult.....and talk....communication is the answer to make GS work....
Penny 14:38:55 CST *gives galah a hug, because it sounds like she needs it*
lara{Zor} 14:39:03 CST lara just has to open her mouth agreein with belle...new subject….please
Rollo_the_Ax 14:39:07 CST Then Haplo....you are getting a bad rap simply from * guilt by association * .... you seem to pride yourself on charging in to defend one that is dear to you ????? is it also a pride to you that said person revels in discord ??? that they relish the chance to stir things up simply to fight away boredom ?????
squishy{Sg}fg 14:39:17 CST nodding softly to galah... as she smiles to her... as if agreeing
Haplo 14:39:20 CST Laroona, she is a FW, not a slave, I do not control her movements, or her mouth
Laroona 14:39:32 CST hugggs little galah
odd too that I returned after Kayla asked me to come back, now I am persona non-gratta in her eyes
Yes I did and to be a FW and help GS grow, why because I love my first and in my heart ONLY Home in Gor
tavelia{MDK}/{Paedur} 14:40:35 CST Mistress Kayla....yes...BUT the difference with that is...Master Paedur and i....have spent time in GS too....nods....not just in JAG....since all this has happened....i have seen You in the Piazza....once...when i was on....how is that....being devoted to GS??
Kayla 14:40:37 CST ~looking to Haplo~ It is time ~tears forming in My eyes~
Laroona 14:41:07 CST Haplo if she is then you appear to have little or no control over her a mere FW
Jaeger_s_kath 14:41:14 CST ~crawling over to galah, hugging her, tears pool with hers in frustration and pain~
~es_belle~{T} 14:41:21 CST i have a question, do we/should we role play weathers in GS? the piazza in my eyes is half open half closed, when we enter the Tavern we come from the outside, the training yards are open to the air... in any world there is not perfect weather at all times, who should decide what the weather will do? and if one starts something about it should /could/would the rest go along with it?
Haplo 14:41:37 CST there is always reason tav, I can find someone that hates any single person here and has plenty of reasons for that hate. I don't care, keep it between yourselves, don't drag others into it
Laroona 14:42:31 CST Haplo tell it to your Woman then she is the one badmouthing those of her home in other sites
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 14:42:31 CST belle, it is always sunny when there are folks in the Piazza.
and it rains when there are none. *wink* LOL
Magic girl. LMAO
galah{RA} 14:42:45 CST Wed Apr 06 21:59:07 . Inn at Trails End
Haplo's Kayla said:
LOL:... Ohhh I know that problem.. that is why I stir the problems that I do.. to keep the boredom at bay
~es_belle~{T} 14:43:10 CST *soft laugh Hearing Master Paedur* ah ok.. cause id like to sit in the piazza one day and watch the rain hitting the glass wall, it would look so pretty
tavelia{MDK}/{Paedur} 14:43:22 CST Master Haplo....with all due respect.....but perhaps You should turn Your head and say that to the right person...
nods and says no more
Rollo_the_Ax 14:43:30 CST These are words from long ago......the Viking Elder Edda... they have always been a source of wisdom to Me, perhaps others can find some also....
Many a girl when one gets to know her
Proves to be fickle and false:
That treacherous maiden taught me a lesson,
The crafty woman covered me with shame";
That was all I got from her.
and also......
saw a warrior wounded fatally
By the words of an evil woman
Her cunning tongue caused his death,
Though what she alleged was a lie.
Kayla 14:43:36 CST That is out of context galah..
Haplo 14:43:37 CST Rollo, I know she does, and until recently, it was me against all the men of GS as I was going to collar or kill her *chuckles*
Laroona, I have all the control I wish over her *shrugs* and can extend it any time "I" please
squishy{Sg}fg 14:44:08 CST ~cupping her hands over her mouth as dark sorrel eyes grow WIDE~ looking to galah.... dark eyes shining brightly*
Haplo 14:44:41 CST you leave to our home woman, I am not yet done
Laroona 14:45:25 CST Kalya it was not you spoke ill of the Men of GS that day
only 2 males make you scared and shudder with fear LMAO
Dak 14:45:36 CST no truer words have I heard spoken, Captain Rollo
Kayla 14:46:09 CST ~rising and looking at so many here that I have known for so long and now they treat Me in this way and I just slide out the door head very low indeed~
Haplo 14:46:43 CST ok, I will put this offer up for all
I will listen, and respond to any and all complaints about Kayla if they are valid, I will calmly talk about it to whomever.
I am not interested in hearing things she has done in the past, and I am not interested in hearing personal hatreds.
all I ask in return, is all this, from all involved, they keep personal disagreements personal
Laroona 14:47:14 CST don't let the door hit your arse too hard Kayla
as it is you who has turned you back on those you call home to
your words cannot be undone lady
Rollo_the_Ax 14:47:56 CST LOL...LOL... Laughling so hard a almost fall from my chair...... LOL.... OUT OF CONTEXT ??????? LOL... and what context is it that makes one admit that cause problems simply to nor be BORED ????? kayla, you area past master at using words out of context to try and make a point or stir the pot...... LOL.. shaking my head yet again... now THAT is rich...... THE pot trying to call the kettle black....LOL...
Laroona 14:48:22 CST so Haplo you only want from now LMFAO
that gets nothing achieved
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:48:43 CST well said Rollo.. well said indeed..
and kath.. *shrugs*.. not sure why that not be done either girl.. seems to Me would clear lots of issues up..
Haplo 14:49:37 CST I want current problems in the RP arena Laroona. what is dragging up past things that are dead and over with?
Jaeger_s_kath 14:50:07 CST ~tearful eyes swing to Master ShadowHawk at His words, slave bleeding for her new home, a home a girl has known for a long long time.
tassa{Hawk} 14:50:13 CST thinking
you know, the last few forums tassa has been to, seems there is a common problem in all of them, and that common problem revolves around one certain Free Woman..*shaking her head*
Laroona 14:50:22 CST Haplo current as from when today, yesterday, last month be specific and not confuse your issues or us
Rollo_the_Ax 14:50:59 CST Haplo...... that is a reasonable course of action....and it might work to some level or degree...... but it could ONLY work IF you woman did the SAME...... and I don't personally like the odds of that happening ....not trying to insuly you or her, but in all the years I have know Kayla, she has never been one to let ANYTHING slide or go away......
Laroona 14:51:06 CST *leans over and hugs kath*
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 14:51:31 CST *chuckles.. hugging tassa to My chest..
hali to My thigh.. laughing harder now at Rollos words.. agreeing*
aye.. indeed kettle calling the pot black
galah{RA} 14:52:32 CST the prime example Master Haplo would be what has been talked about through this whole forum, the free denying service of their slave for a simple drink....you want a home that is gorean, but that lil point sure is not gorean....how can we make a more gorean home when ppl want to ignore all the rules?
Haplo 14:53:36 CST current as in currently an issue Laroona
Rollo, I will whisper my response to that
Laroona 14:54:30 CST exactly galah *winks*
Halpo when Kayla goes to other sites saying she wants action and GS can not give it to her
GS is ungorean in her opinion
well I for one am disgusted she is saying that in other sites
Rollo_the_Ax 14:55:25 CST Also...... does this offer of reasonable discussion mean that any past transgressions FROM others to Kayla or yourself will also be * forgotten and forgiven * ????? the CLEAN SLATE concept rarely works...and NEVER when it is expected from one, but not from the other.... I really don't give the effort much chance of working....but at least it is an effort.... maybe....
galah{RA} 14:56:45 CST how can you say that past issues can not be used Master Haplo? for thats all we have is past issues, we don't yet know what she has up her sleeves for the future Master, we try to take one day at a time, and each day is a new blowup, either something in GS, or something elsewhere, just to keep the Mistress from her boredom?
Laroona 14:57:37 CST how current haplo... this week she has bitched and whined about GS or does that not bother you
as It was said you pulled your pledge from here, then ooopsy change the post,,, then you want your old job back In Ar, and oops you are still there as a Wolf Brother... heck how confusing is that
Haplo 14:57:46 CST so long as it is a clean slate on all sides, yes Rollo
Orion 14:58:22 CST -sits and listens and has heard enough and has to speak- WHAT the hell are you all doing and thinking.. I have SEEN what sort of thing can happen when a site has this much damn INFIGHTNG going on.. I USED to call GoreanChat my home and it got the point at the end that ALL that was going on was INFIGHTING and pointing of fingures and people saying that this person said this and THAT person said that. SLAVES never being in the rooms unless certain Master's and Jarl's were on and all it has done has been cause NOTHING but problems in that site and has driven a GREAT many away from it. We ALL seem to worry about what is BEST for our site and yet we are DOOMED to fall as GC has as of late.. Is THAT what you all want for WebMaster??? To see all his hard work flushed into the crapper???
Haplo 14:59:35 CST Laroona, you are nitpicking at a single thing, if you have a currant problem with Kayla, that doe not stem from any personal animosities, I will listen and talk to you about it, calmly.
I have never given up been a wolf brother, I am who I am
Laroona 14:59:42 CST Orion then wake up and smell the daisys as you do not see what was said or done, I did and I believe I can say it how I see it as you can
Orion 15:00:41 CST -looks to Laroona- As FAR as being a WOLF BROTHER goes, I still call a GREAT many in GC "Brother" just as I always have here.. It ONLY matters WHAT HomeStone you are PLEDGED to in the end..
Laroona 15:00:42 CST Haplo no it is not once single thing I saw but several *nods*
Haplo 15:01:31 CST I agree with you Orion, I saw that in GC years ago, and it's what killed the site back then. then it regrew, but from what I saw, never to it's former numbers, and now it is dead completely, same can be said for gorean crossroads, or any number of other sites that are now dead.
I put the offer out to put a stop to all the infighting, and as far as I am concerned, it is a sincere offer
Laroona 15:01:44 CST OHH enlighten me please whose loyalty comes first a brother wolf or one of ones home?
Orion 15:01:55 CST I AM calling as I seem them Laroona, I KNOW where the site will go if the fighting does not STOP..
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 15:02:15 CST Orion, I do not think there is a lot of infighting this night.
only a voicing of some issues that have been boiling over.
Our Home is doing very well even with the issues of late.
and a Brother is A brother no matter what Homestone is Pledged. *S*
Haplo 15:02:16 CST I meant nitpicking at one single thing in my post
Laroona 15:03:22 CST Orion and why am I fighting to get things better, so you and others can enjoy it No more no less
Orion 15:03:40 CST Haplo, I AGREE with you.. I was there from the beginning of GC and I have seen how it has fallen and what has caused it.. ANd I can SAY that we are doomed to repeat HISTORY if we do not change it NOW..
Jaeger_s_kath 15:04:01 CST 207.69.139.139 Master Haplo ~whispering hoarsely~ please...then. There is not a problem until Mistress Kayla shows up. Here, kath saw Mistress enter to listen, but it could not just be that. Please...would You both not be happy in Thassa Inn to make Your own site thrive and leave GS alone?
Haplo 15:04:22 CST you think I can suddenly stop been a blood brother Laroona??
people have called on my honour here a lot tonight and I have not responded. you now think I can just lay aside a blood oath like that I made with renegade???
Laroona 15:05:05 CST LOL I also saw CG go down, and SD odd they went after I left, so cannnot blame me
*sniggers* Orion 15:05:27 CST -nods as he listens to Paedur- I agree.. JUST as I have ALWAYS felt that you are as close to me as ANY Brother and I am still close with others from GC the same way. It should NOT matter where you are pledged to if they are ones that you call brother or such..
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 15:06:21 CST GS is not dead or going that way right now.
More so, due to the hard work of the Council and the slaves it is growing by leaps and bounds.
I am quite proud of the way the room is going. even with this tonight, as long as it is addressed, then it will continue to grow.
Laroona 15:06:40 CST Halpo you will fight those of GS and have challenged those here of GS earlier and will kill them and not take on your wolf brothers
thank your for the clarification
tavelia{MDK}/{Paedur} 15:07:05 CST Master Orion....with all due respect....Mistress Laroona is not just speaking about "Brothers"....but the Wolf Brothers....
and Mistress Laroona....i can answer that for You....no matter what homestone a Wolf Brother is in....the Pack of Bothers....comes first and foremost....i was the slave of a Wolf Brother for a very long time.....and was part of Ar and HoRW
galah{RA} 15:07:07 CST why stay in GS if your not happy with the ways of GS, and if your not happy with those pledged to GS? i just don't understand? you don't wanna let your slaves serve everyone, you badmouth GS elsewhere....then why Masters?
Laroona 15:08:35 CST thank you tave *smiling*
I apologised early as I am under extreme duress in RT with my typing ...
Paedur-Advisor-Slavemaster 15:08:56 CST Orion, I have only a few Brothers so far.
But Swift Wolf is One, and I will honor that for all My time.
But then My loyalty is to GS.
and I would battle My Brother to protect it.
But I also have deep faith that it would not ever come to that.
We must as Pledged here defend Our home fully.
But htat does not preclude the friendships that have been Ours for so long.
I know it can be done, I have seen it and seem to be doing it. *S*
tavelia{MDK}/{Paedur} 15:09:30 CST Mistress Laroona....You are most welcome...smiles
galah{RA} 15:11:05 CST GS was coming back like the old days, was fun again while the Mistress was on her break time away....it was busy and everything was coming along with the multi room setup, but then the Mistress came back from her break and its been hell ever since....doesn't that say something?
~es_belle~{T} 15:11:51 CST can i be so bold as to ask one thing, if we all love our home then cant we all just learn from past mistakes and make things better? i know i will try, if Master Hawk permits i would like for Him, my Master and myself to talk about Oour issues privately to get them straighten. If He agrees then i suggest Wwe all do this, between Free, and slave alike, Wwe are all adults and as such we have played our games, and yeah some of us still play but come on people, we all agree to disagree but we all also agree we are ADULTS not children anymore
Laroona 15:11:54 CST Paedur I agree GS had developed over the past few weeks and I am so happy to see my Home grow and the loyalty shown by the newcomers is pleasing *S*
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:12:38 CST Brotherhood.. pack of Brothers over Ones Homestone?
then why join another homestone?.. cuz there is nothing more than the importance of defending ones homestone on Gor...
Rollo_the_Ax 15:13:49 CST On this track or line of thought, I can't say much...... I have always been sworn to Gorean Shores.... even before it was GS, it was PK at Fantasycastle.... Xern and I were captains there before Jason Marshal burned the tavern down.... we then gathered any that wished to go and came here...... so I can't speak on what it is to owe an oath to another site...... to a brother ???? YES.... VT or RT..
Orion 15:13:57 CST I have ALWAYS defended my homestone to the ninth degree and I will continue to do so.. BUT, doesn't that mean we should also defend our Site BROTHERS and SISTERS as we would our very HOME?? I would LOVE to think that the homestone and those that call it their HOME would defend each OTHER as they would any that call FAMILY in RT for in VT, THIS is as close to a FAMILY as it gets.. I MAY disagree with say Hap, Paedur, Forest, or ANY other that calls GS their home, BUT it does NOT mean I will NOT defend THEM and do so unto my death for THEY are my BROTHERS here JUST as YOU, Laroona and Kayla would be my SISTERS and the girls would ALSO fall under that PROTECTION.. So how IS it that we can not come to some agreement on what needs to be done without DRIVING our BROTHERS or SISTERS away???
galah{RA} 15:14:26 CST Master Haplo, i have been told....that time heals all....perhaps some time and space would clear the air?
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:16:03 CST that is all I ever said should had been done belle.. as I said before.. He does not give an email to write to, and this is where I brought up His name.. He does not give an email to write to should someone have discreptency with you.. nor is He around much.. or Our times differ greatly so I cannot approach He... I do have an email to write.. .setting up such.. if it were Me.. I would had written He.. saying hey.. You are constantly harrassing Mine.. I want to know why and want to meet talk this over.. there could be some mistaken issue or such..
all I ever wanted belle.. but with that said.. I do not as FM have to explain to you..
Laroona 15:16:30 CST Orion I am not a sister when there is no respect given and Kayla bad mouths my and your home I cannot accept her as a sister still she starts to act like Gs is her HOME... If she wants to think other sites are better then so be it GS did well while she was away
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:18:23 CST exactly Orion.. and that is the part You had Missed, Friend.. how things were being done at other sites to dishonor GS.. yet that same person expects to be treated with honor and respect
~es_belle~{T} 15:19:36 CST Master Hawk if You wished His address then simply ask, He has not restricted me from not giving it to Any, and yeah that reminds me the Email directory has to be updated *soft laugh*
*soft sigh* yes He is not around much and for that i hurt too but as You said Master, i am a slave and You dont have to explain anything to me, i will email Master tonight and see if Wwe or just You two if You think it would be best, can sit and talk, because a blade might cut, and leave scars, but a word will ring clearly forever in one's mind
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:20:11 CST once again belle.. I am a FM.. I do not go thru a slave to talk to another Free..
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 15:22:50 CST looks to the waterclock and wonders if Forum is over so she can stop scribing
galah{RA} 15:23:49 CST poor mistress paz...what do you get when you work your fingers to the bone?
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 15:25:28 CST winks to galah....you girls being happy and fun in the air...winks
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:26:50 CST *standing.. seeing once again the Brotherhood had taken precedent over GS.. only ones seen are of the Brotherhood.. then it is perhaps right.. I do not belong to GS.. only ones that do are of the Wolf Brothers.. My beliefs are for GS.. not Ar.. not Wolves.. not SOI.. I must be very old fashioned... nodding with a wave* winds....
galah{RA} 15:27:57 CST thats not the answer missy sis...its boney fingers....thats what you get when you work your fingers to the bone heheheheheheee
Laroona 15:28:24 CST Hawk what is wrong now?
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 15:28:39 CST chuckles as she hears galah...then says softly...
topaz like her answer better beauty....winks
Rollo_the_Ax 15:28:54 CST It does happen to us all at times...... RT health issues..... RT responsibilities..... simple bullshit burnout......LOL.... all we can do is what we can do, and hope that everything works out for others sooner or later...... LOL..LOL.... We Goreans are a strange lot at times...LOL.... if we leave, the place has its hooks into use too deeply and we most often have to return sooner or later........ LOL..
Laroona 15:30:06 CST Orion I said you know best I said GS concerns me and what is happening to IT... and I am disturbed that there is disharmony caused by one
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:30:16 CST Haplo.. You can let Yours know.. She and all Her Men reps have won.. I shall leave..
Jaeger_s_kath 15:30:49 CST This discussion diverts from the subject ~ and kath would like to see some resolution so that forums may be learning and helpful, so that there not be this unseen tension, or in some cases, witnessed tension within the site.
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 15:30:51 CST Master Rollo, as it appears nothing is being spoken of Forum, may topaz stop scribing and head off to bed?...begs softly
Haplo 15:30:55 CST I have no idea what you are talking about Hawk, you do realise that right??
Laroona 15:31:29 CST Hawk leave and they will win my Friend
Kayla is Not GS.... as much as likes to think it is... it is run by a Council
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:32:31 CST Haplo.. the speaks of all that had theirs restricted gainst Me.. side with Kayla.. Her Men.. as will Orion here .. He will restrict sorcha from Me as well..
Orion 15:33:45 CST -looks to Hawk- PLEASE do not ASSUME to speak for me.. I have posted sorcha's restriction already and she and I are working on getting her into rooms..
Rollo_the_Ax 15:33:48 CST yes, topaz...... and Thanks you again fro your hard work as scribe........ just another thankless job that you and others never get recognized for doing........ you may go. be well, girl....
Laroona 15:33:51 CST Captain Rollo with all respect, is this old folks week or is this a Forum still?
Jaeger_s_kath 15:33:55 CST Master Haplo, Master Orion........please, this is not the place for old home week. Much emotional and energy have been expressed in this forum to deal with a real problem
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 15:34:51 CST nods, and her smiles shy...
thank You Master Rollo, was wonderful to see You here this night/day...chuckles...she wishes You welll!!
Haplo 15:35:15 CST Hawk, what others do, is their business, not mine. I am not going to tell any man how he should or should not restrict his slaves.
I have heard enough stories myself about you, and I have yet to act on any single one of them. those slaves are Kayla's, and to a degree, I allow Kayla to do as she pleases with them. personally, regardless of you, I would have banned them from the tavern entirely, thats due to a personal opinion about the rule more than anything else
shirin{Orion} 15:35:32 CST sweet dreams mistress, thank you for scribing tonight ~blows her a kiss~
Laroona 15:35:35 CST Orion a question on that is she only permitted in rooms when Kayla is around?
Laroona 15:37:31 CST smiles at topaz thank you little one you and liata did well *S*
Orion 15:37:31 CST sorcha is USUALLY working with MYSELF or another and requests to speak with Kayla.. If you have a problem with that Laroona, to BAD.. You have NO idea is she is working with myself or shi'rin in IM or not so do not assume that you know what she is doing..
Haplo 15:38:07 CST to clear this up once and for all, publicly, as you are the captain present Rollo, and so all can see do you wish My pledge to GS to be annulled?
galah{RA} 15:38:17 CST Master Haplo, why stay at a place when you don't agree with their rules? you just stated that....why stay? if you had a place of your own, then you can make any rules YOU like, that suit YOU completely....so why do you feel the need to stay at GS?
Laroona 15:39:07 CST Orion I ask as then I will ignore her Pm's and will not ask her to serve then despite the Councils ruling slaves should serve *nods* odd she is so often alone but that is your prerogative
Jaeger_s_kath 15:39:18 CST ~looks about~ There is an age old strategy called diversion and kath thinks that is what is at work right now.
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:39:22 CST which btw.. I am not depledging from GS.. let that be known..
Haplo 15:40:07 CST galah, I stated I didn't agree with one rule, and not in the way you think, I personally think the rule is to lenienent and should be made stricter
Laroona 15:40:40 CST more than once Haplo you have stated you do not agree and will not abide by GS rules yet you wanted them enforced for the Party *odd*
galah{RA} 15:41:52 CST Master Haplo, if some free here denied you service of a simple drink just cause they didn't like you or your FW, wouldn't that make you mad?
Haplo 15:43:22 CST have I Laroona?? please, show me when I said I would not abide by them, and then also, show me when I have NOT abided by them.
I have said, and will state again, there are a few rules here that could do with been changed, the raiding rules, the ones about assassination, the tavern rule. those are issues to be taken up either at the forum, which I have done, or in private with the council.
Laroona 15:44:30 CST previous Forums Haplo sighs as I have been asked to cease
Jaeger_s_kath 15:44:37 CST ~waiting to hear Master Rollo's response to Master Haplo~
Haplo 15:44:47 CST galah, A Master has ultimate right over what his slaves does, or does not do, even to disallowing me serves. I will take that issue up with the owner, not the slave though, and that would be between him and I
Haplo 15:45:17 CST yes, previous forums Laroona
Rollo_the_Ax 15:46:32 CST Haplo...... the MAIN tenent that started GS was that ANYBODY that was willing to come in, show respect to ALL others, and follow the rules set out by the Council were welcome...... In My mind, nothing has changed.... there are some that would be happy to see such a thing happen.. to you and yours..... but if YOU are willing to stand by the pledge you made...and follow said rules...... until such time as I have proof otherwise, I have no reason to ask you to leave.... the burden of proof falls squarely on YOUR shoulders....
Laroona 15:46:39 CST so it has been said Haplo indeed I recalled correctly.. thank you
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:47:26 CST Haplo.. I will.. not pointing fingers.. but explain to You when that had been done.. and how long ago as well as what topic was.. when You said.. You would not abide by the Captains decisions.. once that was said.. Paedur was about take sword up gainst You.. since he asked if you openly denied you would not adhere to Captains decisions.. do You recall now?
Laroona 15:48:07 CST *sits on my hands...so I say no more*
Haplo 15:48:29 CST thank you Rollo, I know I made a rash division posting that at the time, which was why it was removed shortly afterwards, but as it keeps been brought up, I thought I would check with the Captains about it and close the matter entirely thank you for doing so
Haplo 15:50:35 CST ohh that, yes I recall that perfectly well Hawk, I also remember stating that I had already had that discussion with one of the captains prior to that event, and that he and I had reached an agreement about it.
Rollo_the_Ax 15:52:08 CST I can't hazzard a guess at how many times I have told ppl...... NOBODY can make you stay where you DON'T want to be........ every person chooses their own path..... if anybody does NOT like the way things are done here, or elsewhere, then they have only to go elsewhere and find something better suited to them...... no hate involved....... STAY or GO as ANY person wishes...... but if ANYBODY stays, they in effect agree to follow the rules set down for the place they stay in........ here, SOI, JAG, or where ever.......
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:52:27 CST *nods*.. aye.. that be the nite.. and that is the nite Laroona brings up.. but since Rollo has stated You are member and it seems tho never said.. much is forgiven tonite.. then I will say no more on it..
Haplo 15:54:23 CST Hawk, I will listen, publicly or privatly to any concerns you have about Kayla or I, so long as they are RP based, and current. and then, after an accord is reached, it will be clean slate time
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:55:53 CST and that Rollo is My issue.. GS is My home.. I do not make the rules.. but I enforce them.. as I had done in My time in the military.. I do not make rules but enforce them.. I stand by what is said.. and that Captain is why I firmly believe You and council need rewrite.. edit or whatever.. then put those rules out.. to be followed.. adhere to.. not have it where Wwe have to dig them up.. there is not even a link to get to the rules.. I had to get it from topaz.. when I first came.. should not be that way..
Rollo_the_Ax 15:56:07 CST I have to get going ....RT has been put on hold for way to long........ Be Well, all........
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:58:28 CST that is all I have of Kayla.. RP based..
and it can be done this nite.. I have no qualms.. nor looking for stance from another. I stand on My two feet.. always have.. always will..
*looking to Rollo*.. perhaps this nite.. the rules of no drinks in forum.. can be dropped?.. would rather the talks be here in public then private.. so can be no finger pointing.. he said.. she said type thing
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 15:59:51 CST BOL.. *shaking My head, watching He leave* winds Rollo
Haplo 16:00:23 CST your issue is she doesn't follow the rules Hawk??
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 16:02:39 CST My issue Haplo.. is she uses rules according to her gains.. nothing more.. just as her quotes.. to her gain..
I had seen where One came in.. not wanting to create a stir in public.. talked to her in private.. something that happened in SOI that need not be brought up.. but since she did not like where it was going.. she pulled Orion in.. or was it Takuk.. one or the other.. telling the One.. whispers are not allowed unless granted... I then told her that to Me.. when she called Me a fucking liar.. I told her the same thing.. whispers are not granted unless allowed.. and that nite it was Orion.. told Me to talk to Him and left snickering
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 16:04:16 CST that is everybody's issue.. if they do not fall in her gain.. she uses it.. but does not abide to them.. ever
Haplo 16:04:24 CST that one is easily solved Hawk, is that the only problem? or are there others I need to deal with aswell?
Haplo 16:07:03 CST easy, no one will whisper to her, nor will she whisper to anyone without a public post requesting such.
I will police her on that, as I can see her whispers
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 16:08:56 CST lol.. then the issue not solved at all.. but so be it.. for the whisper was not the issue Haplo.. I stated the issue..
Haplo 16:10:28 CST that other issue Hawk is impossible, as that is something that is an act of perception as much as anything else. everyone does it from time to time, and most times, like my earlier issue with Paedur, it was perception
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 16:13:20 CST then the problem will always be there.. anyways.. I am thirsty..
winds.. *nodding.. heading to the tavern*
Haplo 16:16:09 CST watches the place empty and shrugs, turning to head out back into the wilderness