.punishment & speech
Rollo the Ax~~~ Well, folks..... shall we get the forum going ???? anybody have a topic they wish to bring up ???? the floor is open....
Kyoto~~~ Well, many come to mind, but none that I wish to present as I don't want to open those particular cans of worms...
Rollo the Ax~~~ LOL..LOL.. come on, folks.... lets have a topic... and get this show on the road.....LOL...
Kyoto~~~ Ok, this has probably been addressed, but I haven't been around much lately due to r/t crap... what about those posts on the boards regarding people who constantly seem to be getting under the skins of other people when it comes to matters of their property?
Gornt~~~ ~chuckling~
well last week we talked about slaves speaking in 3rd person, and whether they should be punished immediately by any Free present or if it should only be by Captains, or if it should be reported to Master or Mistress
But I don't know if any decision was reached
Rollo the Ax~~~ Folks.... as for the message board, I can tell everyone that there IS some sort of problem... Gary M made the board for GS, and made Me the only Captain that could delete or remove postings....but there must have been some sort of problem a while back, because the log in and pass word that used to work does NOT still work....I have tried to contact Him repeatedly, but up till now He has not gotten back to Me..... My only answer whould seem to be to just make a NEW GS message board, and forget the old one....that way I can once again gain control of it and be able remove CRAP from it......
Lemuel~~~ ~nodding at the Captain's words~
sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ ~nods softly to Master Rollo's words~
Gornt~~~ ~smiling as I hear Rollo's words as to the quality of the Posts on the Board~
calia{GS}~~~ enlightened eyes...~ calia smiles as she listens.....
jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~listening intently~
Emerald Forest~~~ *walking in and finding My table and sits down and listens in*
Lemuel~~~ ~giving the first girl a squeeze as I go back to nuzzling her ear~
Rollo the Ax~~~ What where those other matters ??? slaves speaking in third person ??? who can or should punish Tavern slaves ??? ??? any others ????
jasma{GS~FG}~~~ ~a shiver runs through spine feeling His nuzzling.. listening to the conversations~
Kyoto~~~ Yes, who can and should punish a tavern slave?
Gornt~~~ well that was all we discussed last week Captain, and we never did come to a resolution
Lemuel~~~ ~nods~ Aye Captain, last week we were discussing if it would be permissible for any Free to cuff a slave that was visiting the tavern if she was found displeasing.
sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ ~listens quietly~
cheela{HoWS}sg~~~ *speaking up quietly, still not lifting her head*
it has always been che's experience that if she were found displeasing, she would by cuffed even if her Master was not in attendance. A few smacks up side the head helps you remember not to be stupid sometimes
en~tarna~~~ warm smiles sweep to the entering pretty Mistress Asellus ~ then lower to play upon the big black boots present ~ attentively listening to the agenda from last forum again discussed ~
Gornt~~~ some Master's may resent just any Free cuffing Their property
Rollo the Ax~~~ punishing a slave has always been an * iffy * matter depending on the room, owner, etc. .... But as far as GS is concerned, a cuff or a push with the toe of a boot, is not a hard core punishment.... a whipping or such is different.... caging or putting to the post is OKAY, etc. ...also.... just don't do any damage or scar a slave and you should be okay....But always be prepared to defend your actions if the slave is owned by somebody that is * defensive or over-protective *....
Gornt~~~ I suggested caging, and Kayla pointed out we would only be depriving Ourselves of service
Asellus~~~ *Nods and takes in Rollo's words, glad to see Him again in the tavern*
Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ We also mentioned the importance of c&p any such encounter to cover One's *ss.
cheela{HoWS}sg~~~ *looking to Master Gornt and nodding *
then chain them to a post and leave them to be found. otherwise there will be snotty girls with can't touch me attitudes running around knowing that they cannot be punished except by thier owner. If che screws up, she gets smacked, not whipped, beaten or killed, just a usual firm cuff up the side of her head
*shrugs*
Rollo the Ax~~~ If the first person matter was about posting on the message board... that might be open to a bit of latitude....MAYBE, as long as it is still done in a respectful manner, in My opinion, anyway... but the rule in the room, or tavern, is third person.... No debate, No exceptions, ( except for new slaves still learning making mistakes...)...
jasma{GS~FG}~~~ *softly*.. the part about chaining them to a post leaving the girls for their Owners.. she believes what was said was what happens if it's girls that their Owners aren't around very often.. instead of waiting.. to be done *then* taken care of..
*lowering eyes in respect*
Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Asellus~ That is pretty much the sentiment that was voiced in the last forum. That it is better to give some kind of light discipline than just chain her to the post.
calia{GS}~~~ nodding and smiling to Mistress Asellus...
aye ,slave should learn from the given punishment,not taking it lightly ...like a headsmack ..
calia craves praises just as she needs punishment should she lose sight of her place..as slave....
Kyoto~~~ Or a firm smack on your backside, che... it is after all a tempting target. *mischievious grin*
Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to the Captain~
cheela{HoWS}~~~ Yes Master, or che's backside
Asellus~~~ Yes, Lemuel. And, calia. Too true. In any case, I think a stricter no-nonsense atmosphere here would do well to drive away those whose fires burn lesser to please the Free. One can only hope, at least. *She shrugs Her shoulders lightly*
Rollo the Ax~~~ And Lady Asellus.... there always has been that problem...and always will be.... Our only answer to such actions is and has been for any Free that sees such actions to contact the Council with such information about misdeeds, and let the Captains decide if the slave will be banned or not.... Okay ?????
Asellus~~~ Sure thing, Captain. *Nods* I'm not about to let a measly slave ruin My visit and time in the tavern.
Rollo the Ax~~~ LOL...LOL... Kyoto, * smacks * on backsides are often wanted actions and not punsihments..... LOL...LOL..
Lemuel~~~ ~grins at the Captain's word's~
cheela{HoWS}~~~ *a grin to the Mistress*
then perhaps a concensus of the Captains, Masters and Mistress's on a single point.
if a girl enters the tavern without her Owner, and if that girl is found displeasing, then she is to be punished in some small way, even it it means each person putting her on ignore
would that work?
Asellus~~~ *She chuckles softly and smiles at cheela* I really don't think I need permission from someone's Owner to put a disrespectful slave on ignore.
Lemuel~~~ ~nods to cheela~ Sounds good to Me.
cheela{HoWS}sg~~~ *blushing at Master Rollo's words*
depends on how it is given and Umm how firm Master.
If Master Kyoto were angry with che and cuffed her it would break her heart and remind her to be better, but He often cuffs her in play and that is a different thing entirely
Lemuel~~~ ~smiles~ True Lady Asellus, but to cuff or kick the slave first and then ignore her. And don't forget to c&p it!
Gornt~~~ But what of the Master or Mistress Who might not want Their slave cuffed up along side the head by any but Themselves?
Doesn't that delay give the slave the wrong message?
Asellus~~~ Of course, Lemuel. *smiles and winks*
Kyoto~~~ *grin* True, a smack on the backside can often be quite stimulating...
cheela{HoWS}sg~~~ chee never said You did Mistress
*smiling and dropping her eyes again*
it was just her small offering on the way to handle a few snarky girls that may disrupt things and not take punishments to heart
Gornt~~~ ~whispering to calia~
so far girl punishment hasn't been required
Asellus~~~ The slave's message should be "Be pleasing always" and I suppose any other alternative means of punishment by the slave's Owner better be firmly engraved in the girl's mind, otherwise, she is to have a rough time "getting along" in the tavern....and likeweise the Free will really have His or Her hands full, I suspect and better be prepared to deal with whatever the consequences.
calia{GS}~~~ her bare ass wiggles on Masters thighs as she nuzzles close...nay Master,calia is a really good girl *coy smile*
Asellus~~~ *shrugs lightly and smiles*
calia{GS}~~~ noddding in agreement with Mistress Asellus..~*
slaves belly burn to grow...to learn ..and to be always pleasing to Free..should she not ~ she pays with ...punishment....or even perhaps , her life...
Gornt~~~ ~chuckling~ and when you are bad you are even better
What has been resolved, Kyoto? I must have missed it during My RT
Asellus~~~ Yes, true, girl. *smiles to calia*
Kyoto~~~ Good question Gornt, most are apparantly in favor of a light punishment for an errant slave if their owner is not about.
Gornt~~~ alright, does that include all Free? even the Pledges?
Kyoto~~~ Hmmm, perhaps a basic guide might be designed that would delineate what might be acceptable levels of punishment for another's slave...
Dak~~~ I think for most slaves, a verbal reminder is sufficient !
Lemuel~~~ Last week We seemed pretty much in agreement that a cuff or light kick would be appropriate.
Gornt~~~ That would be best I think, so there can be no dispute later, as Lemuel said a c&p is required as well, so the Owner doesn't think One abused His or Her property on a whim
Kyoto~~~ Not always, Dak, the unfortunate thing is, a lot of girls who decide to mouth off or get uppity, don't take the first warning...
sevda{SabreWolf}~~~ ~listening~
Lemuel~~~ ~nodding~ Yes, always c&p. And the Free should probably send it to the Owner right away if They have the Owner's address.
Gornt~~~ ~smiling~ I think some slaves seek attention negative or otherwise
Kyoto~~~ Where would those blows be placed? A blow to the head might be more damaging to an unwanted smack to the ass...
calia{GS}~~~ she listens as her pearly teeth sink into full scarlet lips...~ listening with low roaming eyes
Dak~~~ then it take stronger measures, a c&p to the council !
Gornt~~~ ahhh, that brings up another issue, is there a directory of e-mails addys for GS?
Lemuel~~~ Well, a backhanded strike to the slave's cheek was popular in the books...
Kyoto~~~ Not everyone listens when the threat is a c&p to the council, Dak... *Looking him square in the eye*
Gornt~~~ a blow to the head is less sexual however ~smiling~
Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Good question Gornt, I don't think there is anything official.
Dak~~~ there is an e-mail addy for the council !
Kyoto~~~ True, so we are agreed then that if a slave is acting up, first give a verbal warning, and if that is not sufficient, a cuff to the head, not overly hard, followed by a c&p to the council covering the incident to cya...
Gornt~~~ but if sends to the Council, it uses the IP addy One is on at the time of the post
Gornt~~~ very well, I can do that
Lemuel~~~ I think the slave's Master should be notified before going to the council Dak. Give the Owner a chance to discipline the slave first.
Dak~~~ sounds good to Me !
Lemuel~~~ ~nodding thinking it wouldn't hurt to cc the council when emailing the Owner~
Dak~~~ aye, that's fair, if they are around often enough !
Gornt~~~ ~nodding in aggreement with Lemuel~
slaves ignoring their sister slaves
calia{GS}~~~ can slave ask .....is it wrong for slaves to ignore sisters ,name changers? ...~
Kyoto~~~ Can you clarify, calia?
Gornt~~~ hmmmmmmmmmm, for instance?
calia{GS}~~~ hmm , searching a nice way to put her words..
truly , we are here to please Free ~ not a pajama party of sisters ,right? ....should calia get along with all in her chain ,she is blessed...but another, who annoys her..
can calia rightfully ignire her...???
is this ever in the books ..
one knows of jealously...calia is NOT jealous*L* , just angry...her Sswitching and name changing annoys calia
Kyoto~~~ calia, in my opinion, since you are not responsible for the pleasuring of a slave, you are not obligated to acknowledge her...
calia{GS}~~~ she blushes as her words flow from lips ~ thinking calia has been hanging out with jadain far to much *giglging*
Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to calia~ slaves argued, fought, and ignored each other all the time in the books.
calia{GS}~~~ nodding ~ aye Master Kyoto ,calia believed the same..
this slave causes no disruption in Captains home, in regard to her emotions of that slave....calia just ignores her,completely
calia{GS}~~~ beaming smiles as she hears Master Lemuels words...~ calia likes being by the books ...and promises no Free will see calia cat fighting in the sands...*soft giggles*
Gornt~~~ in My opinion a slave has no rights, but a slave is human and may have anamosity towards another slave, because they are human, and as they say on Urth, "Stuff happens"
so I say yes a girl can ignore a sister
FM Forums
Lemuel~~~ O.K. - How about the Free Men's forum? The turn out was not very good, should We still have them?
Gornt~~~ the FM Forum is on Thursday, correct Builder?
Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to Gornt~
The first one was last Thursday, but only SholGar showed up.
Dak~~~ I was gonna come, but had company show up at that time unexpectedly , will try to be here this thursday.
Gornt~~~ I will try to make it, I need the discussion to broaden My knowledge, but I will be usually later than now
probably more like 9 PM Tavern time
Lemuel~~~ ~S~ O.K. I guess We'll give it another shot.
Gornt~~ Thank You Lemuel
Lemuel~~~ Gornt, would Tuesday nights be any better for You? I had a suggestion that We hold the FM's forum the same night as the Women's to keep attendance in the tavern up.
Kyoto~~~ So who would like to present the next topic? Or is there more to be discussed?
Lemuel~~~ ~looking to Kyoto~ Just a general question if Tuesdays would be better for the FM's forum.
Kyoto~~~ Before we go, Lem, any response to the FM forum question?
Lemuel~~~ ~shaking My head~ Nope. So, last time...would Tuesday be better for Any?
Gornt~~~ Wednesday would be good, very good
Kyoto~~~ Tuesday sounds good to me... I may not make it, but hopefully there will be support for it...
Lemuel~~~ ~wincing~ Sorry Gornt, Wednesday is the only day I can't do them.
Kyoto~~~ Wednesday is a good day also... how about we get a concensus, all in favor of tuesday, say so, those that prefer wednesday, chime in...
Dak~~~ I'm open for any day !
Gornt~~~ Tuesday and Thursday I will be attending late, like 9 PM Tavern Time
Lemuel~~~ ~nods at Gornt~ O.K. We can do them later, say 8:00-10:00 Tavern time? Sholgar said later would be better for Him too.
Gornt~~~ ~smiling~ fantastic
Lemuel~~~ O.K. later it is then. I'll post detail as to the next Forum date and time on the board. Topic will be sparring.
Kyoto~~~ Sounds good, Lem, I might make time for that one...