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What Gor means to you?

 

Xertog 19:20:34 pm CDT 

First topic: 

 

what brought you to Gor...what keeps You in Gor...what have You found in Gor and what do you hope to find in Gor. 

 

Jake_musician 19:24:28 pm CDT 

The idea of expanding My self expression in ways not known to Me before discovering the world..being allowed to delve to slavery in depth and not cause harm mentally to others..well mostly not harm. what keeps Me here? the people..the learning of new terms..ideas...the role play chances had to be free within Oneself 

 

desiree 19:24:52 pm CDT 

~smiling~ thinking that des came to Gor just to feast upon all the Sexy Masters...~sweetly smiling~ 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 19:24:57 pm CDT 

what brought you to Gor 

the challenge....having been in BDSM for about 8 yrs....the need to delve deeper into my own submission 

what keeps You in Gor 

many things....the sense of family......Master...how i feel when fires are raging....the rp 

what have You found in Gor? 

that it easily burns you out from chat....but never really dies within you 

what do you hope to find in Gor. 

hmmm...i hope to continue exploring and finding out more about Gor and myself as a slave 

 

Laroona 19:25:17 pm CDT 

to answer the topic 

it was many years ago I ventured into GS at poolside and observed for a while, then decided that there was beauty and harshness all in one, but more deeper eas the intricacies of the writings of John Norman ... 

To find in gor is a deeper question and one I enjoy being in ... 

 

desiree 19:26:52 pm CDT 

seriously though - des came to Gor to find something that was missing...much like jale...BDSM left this girl searching for something deeper... 

what she hopes to find? to find herself and all that she can be! 

 

nassy 19:27:46 pm CDT 

Master Errand Knight instructed this girl here many moons ago... 

she came found it interesting.. 

she left found she missed it has started returning.. 

 

Jake_musician 19:28:29 pm CDT 

(sounds like an Army add..a slave of one?) 

 

LadySissy 19:28:37 pm CDT 

what brought you to Gor 

curiosity 

what keeps You in Gor 

The challenge of being the best FW I can be... 

what have You found in Gor? 

Good Friends & r/p when possible 

 

Xertog 19:28:39 pm CDT 

I wondered into GS about 8 years ago. I had not read any of the books and had no idea what Gor was. It was very interesting to me but I figured I'd get killed in my first month. I was lucky that I had a few good people that stepped up to help guide me. 

 

{KUURUS}'silks-RESTRICTEED 19:29:07 pm CDT 

silks found the post beautifully descriptive in JAG....she stays in gor because of Master Kuurus 

 

Cavy 19:29:28 pm CDT 

I came to Gor a few years ago. but sadly didnt get to learn that much....I came to learn more and express Myself. I found that P/people was only to willing to explain and guide Me...which sadly Y/you dont see more often elsewhere 

 

Laroona 19:29:28 pm CDT 

I had good assistance from Rollo and galah 

so many names have passed under the moons of gor since those early days 

 

desiree 19:30:14 pm CDT 

~laughing~ @ Master Jake...not to dwell upon this too much..des thinks that in order to be the very best slave...she must first know herself and be confident in her ability to serve 

 

Jake_musician 19:31:00 pm CDT 

Cavy..this is true...you can't get directions on the street rt without holding down your wallet or purse most places 

 

Laroona 19:31:52 pm CDT 

I also consider that being a FW is challenging and even more challenging than being a slave.. 

many may argue this, but a FW lives on the edge, yet she should be according to the books be revered LOL 

 

desiree 19:32:04 pm CDT 

~softly smiles~ remembering those first few times des wandered into GS..she was so scared...afraid of screwing up and being killed 

 

Cavy 19:32:19 pm CDT 

very true Jake like O/others Errand Knight had a big part in Me exploring Gor 

 

Jake_musician 19:32:36 pm CDT 

but des..not to beat this point and get off the topic..what keeps a girl here while learning to serve and develop that confide 

 

Laroona 19:33:28 pm CDT 

dessy and that was challenging as many Free often imposed themselves on slaves without knowing much except they were free and could do as they pleased.... without even learning anything... and sadly it still occurs 

 

Jake_musician 19:33:59 pm CDT 

A good Man there Cavy..nods 

 

desiree 19:34:21 pm CDT 

hmmmm...Master Jake...without a doubt...the people... 

~looking around the room at so many familiar faces...the support and encouragement in this room is incredible... 

des would not be here today without some of the people in this room! 

 

desiree 19:34:51 pm CDT 

yes Mistress Laroona...the all too many HNG's! 

 

nassy 19:35:21 pm CDT 

nods yep what desiree said... 

 

Laroona 19:35:29 pm CDT 

I would venture to say many of us here today have learnt more about gor the longer we are here 

 

Jake_musician 19:35:32 pm CDT 

winks to des..and shoos away the kur outside keeping her here 

 

Laroona 19:36:28 pm CDT 

LOL HNG's are those who have no desire to learn 

no matter how hard we try they consider they do not need to 

 

Jake_musician 19:37:08 pm CDT 

I'd agree with that Laroona..each day something new comes up. even if watching how Folks describe a serve..each person sees their own beauty a different way..some not at all..but learns to see what others have captured from her/him 

 

LadySissy 19:38:27 pm CDT 

nodding in agreement with Jake 

 

desiree 19:38:32 pm CDT 

~thinking that the day that we stop learning is the day that we take our last breath! 

No one knows all there is to know...but...there are so many people in GS that are just kicking butt when it comes to knowing so much about Gor! 

 

Laroona 19:38:46 pm CDT 

Jake so true 

even a Free noting a serve gives each girl the desire 

ignoring during a serve is a major peeve I have..... 

 

Laroona 19:40:19 pm CDT 

even with the serious nature of gor we al forget that we are here to enjoy and have fun 

that there are real people behind the monitors and those people do have emotions 

 

Jake_musician 19:41:04 pm CDT 

Indeed Laroona..if One ignores the serve then you end up insulting the server in My opinion..or get a cookie cutter serve..the fun is catching one daring try that and have her/him stop and need react to things you posted...grins...just finding the banter between both more exciting..leading one down a path and the other gladly following 

 

Xertog 19:42:11 pm CDT 

I know I am still learning stuff. We started the book discussion on Tuesdays not that long ago. This will be a second time for me reading through the series and I am seeing it with new eyes and a different perspective. 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 19:42:16 pm CDT 

*smiles up at Master knowing full well how He prefers a serve and has learned patience in serving Him~ 

gives one something to feed off of thats for sure 

*licks her lips yet again~ 

 

Jake_musician 19:43:29 pm CDT 

I do wish I could find the time to join You Xertog... 

 

Laroona 19:43:48 pm CDT 

Jake I think it goes deeper than that 

slaves put a lot of effort into learning and to be ignored is deeper than insulting 

a Free learns nothing is not forced to learn and IMO should learn as mcuh as slaves 

I bet half would not know the difference between a bosk steak and a piece of sa-tarna bread 

 

desiree 19:44:49 pm CDT 

will there be notes posted from the book discussions? 

~thinking of a fun contest....posting a quote from a book and see who can find out which book it is from~ 

 

Jake_musician 19:45:02 pm CDT 

That was My meaning behind the insult Laroona...one took the time tgo learn it..the Other should know as well the time spent getting the item..items correct... 

 

Laroona 19:45:53 pm CDT 

nodding to Jake 

**hee as I step off my soapbox** 

 

Laroona 19:49:33 pm CDT 

Reposting the topic for newcomers 

Xertog 19:20:34 pm CDT 

First topic: 

what brought you to Gor...what keeps You in Gor...what have You found in Gor and what do you hope to find in Gor. 

 

Xertog 19:51:40 pm CDT 

Any other topic suggestions??? Send me a whisper. 

 

Jake_musician 19:51:43 pm CDT 

looks outside..that damn kur keeps Me here 

 

Cavy 19:52:58 pm CDT 

I remember when I first came to gor I spent hours writing the menu down and basic language because of two reasons. one I didnt want to look a fool and two out of respect 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 19:53:42 pm CDT 

jale did the same Master Cavy 

*blushing smile~ 

kept notes on the desk in front of me 

 

desiree 19:54:40 pm CDT 

~raising her hand also~ des did the same thing...just wish she still had them! 

 

nassy 19:54:41 pm CDT 

nassy kept the serving suggestions open in another window from the slave manual... 

 

Cavy 19:54:58 pm CDT 

jale I was the same..LOL looks like I will have to repeat the task as well 

 

Jake_musician 19:55:17 pm CDT 

I think some do study the dictionary and terms..others like Myself..enjoy learning from doing..not beyond asking one what a term means..at least it shows the slave I don't know everything and would hope some respect earned in that way..He is fallible after all..honest and not letting "my" work just be words 

 

Laroona 19:56:14 pm CDT 

the GS site and manual is available for all to read and I personally have no problems with slaves having it open as the more they serve and learn the better they become *S* 

 

blckrose{Zor} 19:56:34 pm CDT 

this one agrees with Master Jake, this one learns by watching and doing, but also has a window open just in case need to look up something quick 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 19:57:28 pm CDT 

*loves her Gorean dictionary~ 

 

Cavy 19:57:30 pm CDT 

nodding" Jake very good point 

 

desiree 19:57:56 pm CDT 

this sounds so silly...but des purchased a thesaurus so she could learn to say sensual in many different ways - she kept this in her notebook also 

 

Laroona 19:58:23 pm CDT 

anyone using fadu and rask in front of me will soon get told LOL 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 19:58:41 pm CDT 

how many ways can one say sensual, huh des???? 

*grins...dark orbes sparkling~ 

 

aurora{Ulrich}-t 19:58:59 pm CDT 

aurora thinks eventually people come to examine their lives, their society…to question things as they are and determine what is correct after reading and learning Gor…does it change us internally? …aurora would like to think so…it has made her much more subservient and has many times brought peace and contentment to her life…...for now she loves to give back to her home what she has learnt and taken from it...and of course...her Master and chain are here...that is first and foremost for this girl to be here 

 

Cavy 19:59:37 pm CDT 

but on the other hand being a kill zone if y/you say the wrong thing even by mistake it could cost Y/you. couldnt it? 

desiree 20:00:44 pm CDT 

lol....well now jale...let's see 

fleshly....carnal....pleasure...lusty...hedonistic....lascivious...wanton 

VT Gor and RL?

 

Xertog 20:00:09 pm CDT 

New topic: 

 

Does v/t Gor help you to be more in r/t? 

 

Jake_musician 20:01:55 pm CDT 

Cavy..most here are understanding..but to watch the perverbial p's and q's a good idea..might depend on how far the implied insult was taken or carried...follow the rules you should be ok or adult enough to ask? 

 

desiree 20:02:14 pm CDT 

~shivers~ thinking there is nothing sexier than a Dominant Man in r/t!!! 

 

Jake_musician 20:02:34 pm CDT 

refrains from the next topic 

 

Laroona 20:02:38 pm CDT 

asking is not a crime and I consider it better to ask than be made look like a fool 

 

Laroona 20:03:20 pm CDT 

to answer the next topic in one word... no 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 20:03:29 pm CDT 

jale agree's with you des *grins and nods~ 

but without c/t, jale may never have found her deeper submission so...in answer to the question.....jale would have to say yes, initially 

 

Cavy 20:04:18 pm CDT 

nods at Laroona and Jake"...Very true words 

 

Ulrich 20:06:04 pm CDT 

Yes I think so. It has helped me with the more imaginative part of my thinking. 

It's helped me find parts of me I never knew existed as well. 

 

desiree 20:06:56 pm CDT 

~this may sound silly but wonders how many folks found their sex life stronger because of their time in v/t~ 

 

nassy 20:07:39 pm CDT 

thinking hard about it..yes in some ways it has helped..this one real time 

 

Thom_Slick 20:08:19 pm CDT 

~laughs~ 

desiree, I know I did and my pregnant wife can attest to that. 

 

Sandman 20:08:36 pm CDT 

I am probably a little more Doninant R/T but otherwise I am me 

 

Jake_musician 20:08:38 pm CDT 

another topic refrained from..thanks des 

 

Grizzly 20:10:28 pm CDT 

desiree,,,you atually have to have a sex life to Knowtice a diference.*LOL* 

 

desiree 20:10:42 pm CDT 

~laughing~ @ Master Jake...sorry about that! 

 

desiree 20:11:27 pm CDT 

oooh...Master Grizzly...You DO have a good point there! 

 

Laroona 20:11:32 pm CDTI consider that the topic re sex life is personal and refrain from answering 

 

desiree 20:12:39 pm CDT 

~des sincerely apologizes for her question~ 

 

Jake_musician 20:13:20 pm CDT 

I thought it brought up a valid idea des..just I'm not to respond in certain ways here. 

 

Protection collars

Xertog 20:13:29 pm CDT 

New topic: 

 

A Free offering protection from force collaring un-collared slaves while one is in the site? 

How far does this protection go as opposed to an O collar? 

 

nassy 20:14:45 pm CDT 

listens to answers on this topic with keen interest 

 

Ulrich 20:15:45 pm CDT 

That protection is complete as long as she is in his presence isn't it? 

 

OriginalSandman Builder/Captain of GS 20:15:50 pm CDT 

I have always told slaves that My Protection only goes as far as I am present .. after that I tell them they are on their own 

 

Jake_musician 20:15:56 pm CDT 

along the lines of the new topic: 

as We are trying to get old members back..some of whom might not any longer have a collar...how will Council address that issue? Meaning..some of Us know the persons involved and they "know" Gor..so really not allowed an "O" collar..so then what? They sit in a pvt room? rather dull 

 

desiree 20:16:42 pm CDT 

~gulp~ 

 

Deirdre of the Green Caste 20:16:52 pm CDT 

How far does that protection go? *puzzled* That is at the discretion of the Free Person offering, isn't it? I mean.....if I offered My protection to someone....and I give them a temporary collar of Mine.....who has the right to tell Me I can't do it? 

 

Laroona 20:17:40 pm CDT 

I think it is a bit difficult for a FW to offer protection other than being a pledged FW one can offer the standard GS collar 

 

Jake_musician 20:17:49 pm CDT 

make that how will Council address it please? 

 

nassy 20:17:57 pm CDT 

inhales deeply 

 

Laroona 20:18:26 pm CDT 

Deirdre a valid point 

who would and could challenge you as collars are honoured 

 

Xertog 20:19:36 pm CDT 

Deirdre some times men tell a free neck that they can enter the tavern and offer their protection from a forced collaring. 

 

Laroona 20:20:26 pm CDT 

when a newbie or a returning slave enters I advise on safe rooms 

(yes the Entry rules are old and need addressing) 

and the GS O collar 

or the other option go where you want but be advised you could be force collared 

 

Jake_musician 20:20:39 pm CDT 

sorta like taking a Yuppie to a Biker Bar...shrugs..and shuts up 

 

Xertog 20:22:10 pm CDT 

A girl with a GS observer collar has the protection that a GS slave would have from the Council. But if some Master offers a girl 'their' protection it is only as good as the man that is offering it. 

 

Laroona 20:22:32 pm CDT 

and Xertog then they end up collaring the slave some FM are not to be trusted 

thankfully most of those have now left GS 

 

Zoran 20:22:52 pm CDT 

I have always given those that are new or un decide my protection from force collaring 

 

Grizzly 20:22:55 pm CDT 

Jake,,,,Thats acually a Valid Point.I have gotten More then one yuppy,or preppy in & Out of a Biker bar in One peice.*LOL* 

 

Deirdre of the Green Caste 20:22:56 pm CDT 

*laughing beneath the veil at Jake's musings* 

 

Jake_musician 20:24:09 pm CDT 

so then an old pledged or collared slave enters and might be forced a collar by Anyone? 

a nice way to have folks stay away..should there be a time so the returning slave may get accustomed to the New Masters/Mistress' about... I mean a slave wishes to serve yet not wear just Anyones collar and the Ones to serve are in the Tavern..a Kill/Capture zone..she can't serve without putting her neck at risk? I know Gor is a harsh world but it seems too Harsh just now on the semi member drive We seem to want and need? 

 

Laroona 20:24:33 pm CDT 

why the GS O collar is 100% controlled by Council and any breaking that collar rules are held accountable to Council 

 

Ulrich 20:24:59 pm CDT 

I've often wondered that Xertog. I once offered protection to a girl. I had no interest in collaring her, and of course I am true to my word. 

But she was cautious, and didn't know me very well, so she politely declined and just stayed out of the tavern. 

 

Zoran 20:25:38 pm CDT 

I think it comes down to the trust that they have 

in the Master and most here are honorable 

 

Grizzly 20:25:48 pm CDT 

I agree with Jake. 

New Members & Old alike need to feel safe,or they wont stay. 

 

shadow{Ulrich} 20:26:15 pm CDT

Master Jake, most of us have been free necks at some point.. 

there are options.. stay in the piazza or ask a trusted 

Master for temporary protection.. *s* 

 

Laroona 20:26:26 pm CDT 

some are not Zoran 

 

Ulrich 20:27:09 pm CDT 

Jake part of Gor is the risk of being captured is it not? 

There are safe rooms where they can have interaction. I see more people in the Piazza than I do the Tavern anyway. 

Every week people talk about r/p in the forum, and how there is no action, well if there's no threat of a forced collar, that is closing one avenue of potential role play IMO 

 

Laroona 20:27:43 pm CDT 

temporary protection is just that 

question is temporary for how long? 

 

shadow{Ulrich} 20:28:32 pm CDT 

shadow would think while the Master is present? 

 

jessenia{Rm} 20:28:37 pm CDT 

~thinks she agrees with Master Ulrich.. laughs~ ((headache makes it hard to think clearly)) 

i personally think the Tavern should be an enter at Your own risk... if You know there's the chance.. then it's the chance You take.. that's Gor... just my opinion.... 

 

Ulrich 20:29:01 pm CDT 

As long as that Master is present Laroona. 

If I were to offer protection, if I had to go, I would tell her to heel me out, or she would be at risk. 

Plain and simple 

 

Laroona 20:30:14 pm CDT 

Ulrich that is true 

but what say if the FM was urted and could not get back LOL 

 

Jake_musician 20:30:23 pm CDT 

My point being this...a girl enters...having been awhile since she was here..new names..new Masters..wishes to serve..so she stays in the empty Piazza and sits alone while Folks...might..just might be in the Tavern..how does this action get the slave to return to do more then sit alone? if a Master is what is desired..how does she learn who They are from the Piazza? can you learn the trust mentioned from whispers? or words here if they speak up? or might it be better to allow a grace period during the membership drive to be a bit more leanient (sp) on ones wishing to venture to the Tavern and gather her fire back? 

 

OriginalSandman Builder/Captain of GS 20:30:43 pm CDT 

I never fail to offer a slave Protection if I am present.. I am not much on force collarings on Principal.. but I know for some ,, the slave may to R/p a forced collar,, for them ,, they always have that option 

 

Zoran 20:30:54 pm CDT 

well Laroona that is part of the allure of Gor the risk and the want 

you have to take risk sometime 

LOL I delt with Kalya to get lara 

that risk work out for me lol 

 

desiree 20:30:57 pm CDT 

~sighing~ des is getting confused here...but she is blonde.... 

so for those of us that are bare necked...would it be wise to wear an O or a collar of protection during that time? 

 

OriginalSandman Builder/Captain of GS 20:31:57 pm CDT 

and I will usually PM a new face in the piazza to check if they desire protection to enter the Tavern 

 

nassy 20:31:59 pm CDT 

desiree hun this one thinks 'cause we are returning after an absence the O collar is not an opition for us... 

 

Xertog 20:32:54 pm CDT 

Jake if that girl asked me for an observer collar I'd give her one. As could anybody pledged to GS. They are good for 2 weeks. 

 

Deirdre of the Green Caste 20:33:00 pm CDT 

*grinning at Zoran*You deserve a medal of Honor for that one isolated event, My Friend.......and You definitely won that one. *winking warmly to the golden girl in question* 

 

Jake_musician 20:33:12 pm CDT 

shrugs...let's get members but FORCE antiquated ideals down the throat from the get go..used to be this place was about the Tavern..hottest paga slaves on Gor...now what..the best mead girls in any Piazza on Gor? I give up 

 

Zoran 20:33:19 pm CDT 

the other night we were sparing and I told nassy to join she knows me and trusted me 

in most case the old slave know the Master they can trust 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 20:33:37 pm CDT 

what are the restrictions of an Observer collar? 

 

Laroona 20:33:47 pm CDT 

nassy the O collar is also available for returning slaves *S* 

 

Ulrich 20:34:09 pm CDT 

des, an o collar can be issued, but it is only good for a limited amount of time. 

Or you can enter the Tavern by requesting someone's protection, if you trust them, but if they are not honorable, they could turn on you. 

Or you could take a GS collar, or a personal collar. 

OR, you can enter as a free neck, and you may or may not leave as one. lol 

 

Grizzly 20:34:33 pm CDT 

Why Don't we just cut out the middle man during the membership drive. 

& temporarily make the tavern a No Capture/No Kill zone? 

 

Xertog 20:35:24 pm CDT 

nassy I don't have a problem with either of you being granted an O collar. 

 

Jake_musician 20:35:25 pm CDT 

and the first topic is what does Gor mean..so in the scenario just mentioned..it has become Observer tags..collars and protection..I dispise "velcro" with a fricking passion and just became to passionate...sorry all 

 

Zoran 20:35:40 pm CDT 

that be confusing Grissly and it is good to see you 

as when it was made a capture kill zone afterwards 

 

nassy 20:36:08 pm CDT 

thank You for clearing that up Master Xertog and Mistress Laroona.. 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 20:36:28 pm CDT 

*tucks her roll of velcro under her arse...blushes~ 

 

Laroona 20:36:31 pm CDT 

Jake velcro to me means hopping from one collar to another ie one Free to another 

O collars give breathing space not so velcro ish 

 

Zoran 20:37:40 pm CDT 

yes velcro collar not a good thing 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 20:38:04 pm CDT 

*just likes playing with it........................velcro that is~ 

 

Laroona 20:38:31 pm CDT 

I also think it would be nice if the pledges of GS gave some slack to those returning slaves.... 

give them a bit of time without the fear of a force collar..,. 

that way we keep them returning and they end up staying *S* 

 

Zoran 20:39:23 pm CDT 

I can say for a fact your talking to the choir here Laroona and the ones that do offend are not here 

 

Ulrich 20:39:25 pm CDT 

Grizzly I'm glad to see you haven't seen you in a while. 

To address your question, I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard (to paraphrase about 3 months of forums) There's no r/p, there's no excitement, there's no danger in GS. 

For some that danger of a forced collar could be the appeal that gets them here. There are safe rooms, and there are dangerous rooms. 

Gor is harsh, and they can choose which room they enter. 

 

Grizzly 20:39:39 pm CDT 

Im all for Giving those who return some slack.*S* 

 

Laroona 20:39:50 pm CDT 

Zoran true but heee it is in the notes when they read them LOL 

 

Jake_musician 20:39:57 pm CDT 

velcro means a collar with no meaning period. a desire to eb a Tavern slave one thing..to be captured by a Man another..assuming her wiles were sent to the One that captured her..but this is insane..and I for one am sorry I asked others to come back as asked at the last meeting here to be subject to forced rules...so much for My looking like a fool! 

 

Grizzly 20:40:49 pm CDT 

Ulrick,,,I'll buy that.*S* 

Ya,,,Im working to much Nowadays,& when im Not working,I dont see anyone in here. 

 

Ulrich 20:41:03 pm CDT 

I agree with you Laroona, and I think most of us already work like that. 

I've got no desire to force a collar 

 

Jake_musician 20:41:18 pm CDT 

allows all from Poolside to wander back to reading forum notes on Mondays and slave class on Thursday..and We ask why none are here. 

 

Laroona 20:42:06 pm CDT 

Jake is that not where trust comes into it? 

the rules are clear 

protection can be given by one *how long is a question? 

and there is the O collar that is site wide controlled by council 

 

Zoran 20:42:11 pm CDT 

lol and I have 3 

and they are a hand full lol 

 

Laroona 20:43:03 pm CDT 

so Jake you prefer that no notes were kept? 

is that what you are asking? 

 

desiree 20:43:34 pm CDT 

~knowing that this may not be the correct answer it is how des feels~ 

when des serves...she always wants to do it with the best of her ability and she always hopes that the Master and Mistress will be of belief that des has served just for them...however, when she serves the One that owns her...the One that she loves...the passion..the desire...her love oozes from every word of her serve... 

 

Laroona 20:43:42 pm CDT 

IMO I have see too many force collarings and girls are lost as they are gone...... 

 

Deirdre of the Green Caste 20:43:56 pm CDT 

*looking at Laroona incredulously*That is NOT what Jake said....or even implied. What's the deal, Laroona? 

 

Jake_musician 20:44:05 pm CDT 

Laroona..that is why I asked the Council and at last look you were not on it..so I am still waiting an answer to any suggestions THEY may have as to what might be done to draw folks back? 

force them to collars or protection...or allow a grace period to see if they wish remain and mayhaps take a collar from a Master/Mistress? 

 

Laroona 20:44:25 pm CDT 

Deirdre not how I read his last post 

 

Ulrich 20:44:39 pm CDT 

Jake can they not go to the Piazza? I've had many a good time in the Piazza. 

Depending on who's around on any given night, I doubt they would get a forced collar, but again that depends on who is there, and whether they beg and are granted protection. 

It's part of this world. They need to understand the risks and the rewards 

 

aurora{Ulrich}-t 20:45:18 pm CDT 

not quite understanding where the problem lies 

if Masters present are more than willing to offer protection 

or O collars are available 

why do the rules that are the foundation of what Gor is have to be rescinded for anyone returning to GS? 

 

Deirdre of the Green Caste 20:46:38 pm CDT 

Laroona....Well....maybe You should re-read it. That's not how I read it at all. He is trying to make a point. Period. *shaking My head* 

 

Laroona 20:46:45 pm CDT 

aurora I agree with you 

I am lost as to why the keffufle over rules that are clear cut 

 

shadow{Ulrich} 20:46:45 pm CDT 

O collars for returning slaves? 

*is confused* 

shadow thought an O collar was for a new person 

to Gor to see if real interest lies there? 

 

desiree 20:46:58 pm CDT 

a girl wishes all a very good night... 

 

Jake_musician 20:47:01 pm CDT 

Laroona..You and I just spoke on the very same subject in DM the other day!!! about how easy it is to read the notes and not come here..look at the room..new faces..well older ones to most but they came...and once out of here..force their neck to something not wanted..great..if this place wishes to FORCE capture girls..then raid another site..do the DAMN RP and get folks here..see where that gets Us all 

 

nassy 20:47:12 pm CDT 

aurora girl thinks part of this came up from when she was hear the other night..Master Ramses had given His protection for her to join Him jessenia in the tavern another Master entered and was trying to get Master Ramses to turn the girl over... 

 

Jake_musician 20:47:56 pm CDT 

be well des and I am sorry I asked you to come back..this is embarrassing 

 

jessenia{Rm} 20:48:08 pm CDT 

not that this one's opinion counts for much.. but she's going to toss it in anyway 

O collars are fine and dandy.. for new... and maybe returning slaves... but.. stick to the limits of them.. if it's a time frame on them.. stick to it for whoever is wearing it no matter who they are.. whether they're new or not.. when the time frame is up.. they either take a GS collar.. a personal collar if they wish.. or simply go back to free neck... 

 

Ulrich 20:48:21 pm CDT 

*re-reading my last post* On the forced collar paragraph, I should have specified in the Tavern, as the Piazza is a no capture zone 

 

Jake_musician 20:49:25 pm CDT 

The Tavern...the place known in Gor as the hottest place around is now the Piazza? makes sense... 

 

nassy 20:49:37 pm CDT 

jessenia girl has no problem with sticking to a two week period of an O collar, she was until tonight under the impression it was only for new girls... 

 

Laroona 20:50:03 pm CDT 

I believe I was answering this and until Council say otherwise I believe notes will be maintained otherwise why should I or other scribes waste our time and effort 

Jake_musician 20:41:18 pm CDT 

allows all from Poolside to wander back to reading forum notes on Mondays and slave class on Thursday..and We ask why none are here. 

Laroona 20:43:03 pm CDT 

so Jake you prefer that no notes were kept? 

is that what you are asking? 

 

aurora{Ulrich}-t 20:50:10 pm CDT 

capture zones exist all over Gor 

many free necks return to GS and walk the walk 

or are risk for being collared 

ask Jarl Skullsplitter that question... 

 

jessenia{Rm} 20:50:17 pm CDT 

~smiles @ nassy~ good.. jesse is glad to hear that... 

 

Ulrich 20:50:45 pm CDT 

well nassy, if I offered protection, the girl is protected by my sword. 

It's cut and dried 

 

Xertog 20:51:59 pm CDT 

Notes from slave class have been kept and available for girls going back many years. This isn't something new. 

 

Khaled 20:52:02 pm CDT 

I think the O collor should be for only new girls ....seems like returning girls should know what they want in here 

 

Ulrich 20:52:36 pm CDT 

The Tavern is a hot place. There is a lot of heat, but along with it comes a degree of danger. 

 

Laroona 20:52:44 pm CDT 

Jake yes we did discuss it and my suggestion was then and still is 

take it to Council 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 20:52:50 pm CDT 

kept notes was never the issue Master Xertog 

Mistress Laroona misread Master Jake's post 

 

Jake_musician 20:53:16 pm CDT 

they are attending here Laroona...seeing first hand what goes on..and NOT waiting till Monday to read the notes....real easy to find better things to do on a Sunday night and not show up here and learn what goes on in GS from the boards...notes should be kept yes..but if more people know about what went on in here tonight then I do if I was not here..why bother showing up to find out? I can read and shall tomorrow..back to the Final Sopranos 

 

nassy 20:55:05 pm CDT 

Master Ulrich and the girl understands about that also should she choose to continue coming in as a bare neck...*smiles*... 

she does not take kolars lightly they should never be given or taken unless it's going to stay put for a long while.... 

many here know how long she waited and waited for one of her Master's to return...before another took her...then He left Gor she has only ever worn two collars, one removed by another Master after One's real time took Him away...and the other until the Master left.. 

 

Laroona 20:55:23 pm CDT 

LOL well then saves the scribes a lot of work offline and for all of GS there are some who like to go back and read... some come, some cannot 

if they have an real interest in GS then they would appear in the site on other days IMO 

 

Ulrich 20:55:23 pm CDT 

If everyone waits for the notes, then there are no notes to be read Jake 

 

Laroona 20:57:19 pm CDT 

nassy so true in your instance and I for one am pleased to see you here ** 

 

shadow{Ulrich} 20:58:06 pm CDT 

shadow reads old notes to forums she has been too, goofy she guesses 

but she does.. *smiles* or there has been times Master and shadow have searched through notes in reference to something we knew was talked about at a forum.. *s* 

 

Jake_musician 20:58:34 pm CDT 

Ulrich...My point..one last time....nobody shows here..as asked last weekend..an idea as to maybe why? 2...used to be if bored here many could chat with buddies in the pool...as We are now alone..not gonna happen unless MSN or another venue used... second..why should I come here when anyone can simply read the notes the next day? maybe We should make forum and slave notes to pledged members only in some way? so the ones wishing to know but never show need come in here? 

 

Ulrich 20:58:41 pm CDT 

I can understand that nassy, just as I have no desire to force a collar, you don't wish to be forced into one. 

But, isn't the danger exciting to some degree? It keeps you on your toes doesn't it? lol 

 

nassy 20:58:47 pm CDT 

thank You Mistress Laroona...*soft smile*.. 

 

aurora{Ulrich}-t 20:59:06 pm CDT 

knows the importance of wanting and recruiting people to come to our home... 

but do the rules that have existed for so long have to be changed or rescinded temporarily...what does that teach people? 

slaves who want to enter the tavern...are slaves..free necks 

do the training...learn the way many GS slaves have learnt the way many times....and enter the tavern ....its not a matter of walking in, returning and moving directly to the tavern without risk... 

 

 

Xertog 20:59:08 pm CDT 

Next topic : 

At what point should a slave be allowed to simply leave from burn out and same question regarding a Master or Jarl. 

Also as a side note. Next Sunday is Fathers Day.. At least here in the States. I know i can't make it. How about the rest of you? Is a forum worth having next Sunday ?? 

 

shadow{Ulrich} 20:59:53 pm CDT 

maybe its the night change? 

seems to shadow more were present on Monday nights.. 

it is getting pretty out and some don't let go of the weekend 

until they just have to.. 

 

Jake_musician 21:00:39 pm CDT 

I'm done...handing in My pledge..do be well all..good luck in all and the selection of a new trainer... 

heel Me out girl... 

 

shadow{Ulrich} 21:00:48 pm CDT 

could we try it next Monday Master Xertog? just for next week? 

 

Laroona 21:01:58 pm CDT 

sighs as I cannot see why not have a change but then that makes it Tuesdays for some 

 

jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 21:02:04 pm CDT 

*drops the marking stick and blinks....scrambles to her feet and hands the rence to Mistress Laroona~ 

jale wishes all well 

*rushes to heel Master out~

 

nassy  21:02:14 pm CDT

aye Master Ulrich it does keep the girl on her toes, it also made her beg

Master Ramses permission to leave ....so that the other Master would leave

Him and her alone..

 

Ulrich  21:02:22 pm CDT

Jake attendance seems to be improving. There are 18 here right now, not

counting those that have come and gone. 

Best turnout in a while

 

  Xertog  21:03:38 pm CDT

You are giving up your pledge over what exactly Jake?

 

  Xertog  21:05:24 pm CDT

He's gone. Did I miss something while I was away for that short time? I feel

like I must have.

 

Thom_Slick  21:05:54 pm CDT

They have tried Forums on Monday nights and they never worked that night as

far to many people work early mornings on Tuesday and Rollo had a hard time

doing them that night a swell.

 

Laroona  21:06:08 pm CDT

Xertog I think you did

 

  Ulrich  21:07:45 pm CDT

I'm at a loss myself Xertog.

He seemed upset that the "Council" didn't directly answer his question about

making the Tavern a no kill zone.

 I'm lost about the forum notes part of it, not sure what his point was there

 

 Laroona  21:08:37 pm CDT

GS has people from all over the world and frankly no time suits all

never has, never will

 

  Deirdre of the Green Caste  21:09:09 pm CDT

Captain Xertog....He left because He was publicly belittled for stating

something that was important to Him.

 

Deirdre of the Green Caste  21:10:26 pm CDT

He was trying to make a point.....basically about how to "get butts into the

seats" and His words were twisted and thrown back at Him.

 

  Laroona  21:10:45 pm CDT

Deidre what I understood he was not understanding why notes are kept and

considered they should not be

and I was dumped on when I asked *shrugs*

 

shadow{Ulrich}  21:11:13 pm CDT

belittled?

shadow hopes she was not part of that?

she was just talking about her use of forum notes

and her thoughts on O collars..

 

Xertog  21:11:51 pm CDT

I was booted when he asked that and as an Advisor you can't speak for the

Council. But it would take a vote of the 5 Captains to change that Ulrich

and I'd be surprised if it got one vote from the 5. But I could be wrong.

They do surprise me at times.

 

  Laroona  21:12:03 pm CDT

I think he wanted rule changes and only council can do that....

 

  aurora{Ulrich}-t  21:12:05 pm CDT

publically belittled?

by whom?

aurora made comments based on GS and what it stands for...thought this was a

forum to do just that ...in no way was she belittling what He was

saying..she was presenting opinions as Others were here

 

  Deirdre of the Green Caste  21:13:15 pm CDT

Laroona....YOU were not the victim here. YOU were not the One dumped on

here. YOU were rude to Him. Period. YOU were the One who twisted His words,

thank You so much. And now YOU are the One playing "pitiful Pearl"......same

song, second verse.

 

  Ulrich  21:13:53 pm CDT

Deirdre I thought it was all healthy discussion. It's a forum, people stated

their thoughts. 

Not everyone will agree, but no reason to revoke one's pledge. 

  Laroona  21:15:05 pm CDT

Deirdre I responded to the notes issue

and you jumped my butt.,.. sorry if I even took that the wrong way

 

   Ulrich  21:15:23 pm CDT

Aye Captain, and though I wasn't speaking for the Council, I explained my

opinion on those rules.

And like you, I'd be surprised to see one vote that way too

 

Thom_Slick  21:15:56 pm CDT

It is simple, Ulrich. He was commenting on the fact that girls and others

complain about the rules in GS and how things go yet none show up on the

night of the forums to air their concerns as they can just do other things

and read the results in cliff notes as they do not have to be here when it

is all going down.

 

  Deirdre of the Green Caste  21:15:58 pm CDT

Laroona....You are right. I jumped Your butt....but I did it AFTER You

jumped His

 

Laroona  21:16:44 pm CDT

I cannot see the rules being altered

there are safe rooms, there are non safe rooms

as I said the entry needs changing as it is the old entry

there are protection collars and there are O collars...

I would think those are sufficient

 

  Laroona  21:18:29 pm CDT

Deirdre I asked him a simple question regarding the notes!!!!

Jake_musician 20:41:18 pm CDT

allows all from Poolside to wander back to reading forum notes on Mondays

and slave class on Thursday..and We ask why none are here.

Laroona 20:43:03 pm CDT

so Jake you prefer that no notes were kept?

 

Deirdre of the Green Caste  21:19:22 pm CDT

We were ALL here, Laroona.......We saw what You said....and know the context

in which You said it.

 

  Laroona  21:20:27 pm CDT

and so Deirdre I was sooooooooooooo wrong

cos asking that question saves the scribes a lot of work outside of GS as

notes are put up in own time

 

Laroona  21:21:19 pm CDT

plus not withstanding the fact scribes sit here C*Ping for 2 hours or more

 

  Deirdre of the Green Caste  21:22:50 pm CDT

Laroona...Yes...You were wrong. Your attitude was wrong. Your words were

wrong, and the way that You delivered them was wrong. And now....because of

that....Jake and jale are gone.

 

Laroona  21:23:49 pm CDT

if you prefer to think that way Deirdre

you are entitled to your opinion

same as any one else including me

 

  Deirdre of the Green Caste  21:24:46 pm CDT

Yes...Laroona. I Am.

 

 

  Xertog  21:26:40 pm CDT

Lets call the forum to a close and this will be a carry over topic:

 

At what point should a slave be allowed to simply leave from burn out and

same question regarding a Master or Jarl.

 

I'll e mail Rollo about next Sunday and see if he can make it Sunday or

Monday. I'll make a post on it on the board in a couple of days.

 

Thom_Slick  21:29:24 pm CDT

~shakes his head as he listens to the in-fighting~

 

have you all though that maybe this is one reason that some leave. Because

the only thing that can be agreed on is to disagree and not see others

points of view. Jake asked a good question and stated why he hated what he

viewed as velcro kolars, which protection kolars can be viewed as when a

girl can get them from any may with no consciquence because she is not

really owned by any one person. He has a valied point on this and the other

things. But it is just that, a point of view. We all have them and they are

like ass holes because they stink to others.

 

Laroona 21:31:39 pm CDT

does not mean we all need agree

or that council should change the rules

and forums are where people can express views

 

 Ulrich 21:34:07 pm CDT

Then I suppose I misunderstood his question Thom.

I thought he was asking to make the Tavern a no capture zone, at least temporarily.

When you look at it ,that's what the o collar does, just on a case by case basis.

That's why I didn't understand the issue.

Regardless, my time is up.

I wish you all well

 

Xertog 21:34:18 pm CDT

Thom perhaps the O collar wasn't explained right. It's for 2 weeks only. You can't keep getting them. I don't think velcro is a good word to describe it.

  

 shadow{Ulrich} 21:38:27 pm CDT

this girl thought it was a healthy discussion as a forum should be?..

 *giggiling and wiggling.. *

shadow wishes all well

and a pleasure to kinda meet You Master Slick

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