What Gor means to you?
Xertog 19:20:34 pm CDT
First topic:
what brought you to Gor...what keeps You in Gor...what have You found in Gor and what do you hope to find in Gor.
Jake_musician 19:24:28 pm CDT
The idea of expanding My self expression in ways not known to Me before discovering the world..being allowed to delve to slavery in depth and not cause harm mentally to others..well mostly not harm. what keeps Me here? the people..the learning of new terms..ideas...the role play chances had to be free within Oneself
desiree 19:24:52 pm CDT
~smiling~ thinking that des came to Gor just to feast upon all the Sexy Masters...~sweetly smiling~
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 19:24:57 pm CDT
what brought you to Gor
the challenge....having been in BDSM for about 8 yrs....the need to delve deeper into my own submission
what keeps You in Gor
many things....the sense of family......Master...how i feel when fires are raging....the rp
what have You found in Gor?
that it easily burns you out from chat....but never really dies within you
what do you hope to find in Gor.
hmmm...i hope to continue exploring and finding out more about Gor and myself as a slave
Laroona 19:25:17 pm CDT
to answer the topic
it was many years ago I ventured into GS at poolside and observed for a while, then decided that there was beauty and harshness all in one, but more deeper eas the intricacies of the writings of John Norman ...
To find in gor is a deeper question and one I enjoy being in ...
desiree 19:26:52 pm CDT
seriously though - des came to Gor to find something that was missing...much like jale...BDSM left this girl searching for something deeper...
what she hopes to find? to find herself and all that she can be!
nassy 19:27:46 pm CDT
Master Errand Knight instructed this girl here many moons ago...
she came found it interesting..
she left found she missed it has started returning..
Jake_musician 19:28:29 pm CDT
(sounds like an Army add..a slave of one?)
LadySissy 19:28:37 pm CDT
what brought you to Gor
curiosity
what keeps You in Gor
The challenge of being the best FW I can be...
what have You found in Gor?
Good Friends & r/p when possible
Xertog 19:28:39 pm CDT
I wondered into GS about 8 years ago. I had not read any of the books and had no idea what Gor was. It was very interesting to me but I figured I'd get killed in my first month. I was lucky that I had a few good people that stepped up to help guide me.
{KUURUS}'silks-RESTRICTEED 19:29:07 pm CDT
silks found the post beautifully descriptive in JAG....she stays in gor because of Master Kuurus
Cavy 19:29:28 pm CDT
I came to Gor a few years ago. but sadly didnt get to learn that much....I came to learn more and express Myself. I found that P/people was only to willing to explain and guide Me...which sadly Y/you dont see more often elsewhere
Laroona 19:29:28 pm CDT
I had good assistance from Rollo and galah
so many names have passed under the moons of gor since those early days
desiree 19:30:14 pm CDT
~laughing~ @ Master Jake...not to dwell upon this too much..des thinks that in order to be the very best slave...she must first know herself and be confident in her ability to serve
Jake_musician 19:31:00 pm CDT
Cavy..this is true...you can't get directions on the street rt without holding down your wallet or purse most places
Laroona 19:31:52 pm CDT
I also consider that being a FW is challenging and even more challenging than being a slave..
many may argue this, but a FW lives on the edge, yet she should be according to the books be revered LOL
desiree 19:32:04 pm CDT
~softly smiles~ remembering those first few times des wandered into GS..she was so scared...afraid of screwing up and being killed
Cavy 19:32:19 pm CDT
very true Jake like O/others Errand Knight had a big part in Me exploring Gor
Jake_musician 19:32:36 pm CDT
but des..not to beat this point and get off the topic..what keeps a girl here while learning to serve and develop that confide
Laroona 19:33:28 pm CDT
dessy and that was challenging as many Free often imposed themselves on slaves without knowing much except they were free and could do as they pleased.... without even learning anything... and sadly it still occurs
Jake_musician 19:33:59 pm CDT
A good Man there Cavy..nods
desiree 19:34:21 pm CDT
hmmmm...Master Jake...without a doubt...the people...
~looking around the room at so many familiar faces...the support and encouragement in this room is incredible...
des would not be here today without some of the people in this room!
desiree 19:34:51 pm CDT
yes Mistress Laroona...the all too many HNG's!
nassy 19:35:21 pm CDT
nods yep what desiree said...
Laroona 19:35:29 pm CDT
I would venture to say many of us here today have learnt more about gor the longer we are here
Jake_musician 19:35:32 pm CDT
winks to des..and shoos away the kur outside keeping her here
Laroona 19:36:28 pm CDT
LOL HNG's are those who have no desire to learn
no matter how hard we try they consider they do not need to
Jake_musician 19:37:08 pm CDT
I'd agree with that Laroona..each day something new comes up. even if watching how Folks describe a serve..each person sees their own beauty a different way..some not at all..but learns to see what others have captured from her/him
LadySissy 19:38:27 pm CDT
nodding in agreement with Jake
desiree 19:38:32 pm CDT
~thinking that the day that we stop learning is the day that we take our last breath!
No one knows all there is to know...but...there are so many people in GS that are just kicking butt when it comes to knowing so much about Gor!
Laroona 19:38:46 pm CDT
Jake so true
even a Free noting a serve gives each girl the desire
ignoring during a serve is a major peeve I have.....
Laroona 19:40:19 pm CDT
even with the serious nature of gor we al forget that we are here to enjoy and have fun
that there are real people behind the monitors and those people do have emotions
Jake_musician 19:41:04 pm CDT
Indeed Laroona..if One ignores the serve then you end up insulting the server in My opinion..or get a cookie cutter serve..the fun is catching one daring try that and have her/him stop and need react to things you posted...grins...just finding the banter between both more exciting..leading one down a path and the other gladly following
Xertog 19:42:11 pm CDT
I know I am still learning stuff. We started the book discussion on Tuesdays not that long ago. This will be a second time for me reading through the series and I am seeing it with new eyes and a different perspective.
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 19:42:16 pm CDT
*smiles up at Master knowing full well how He prefers a serve and has learned patience in serving Him~
gives one something to feed off of thats for sure
*licks her lips yet again~
Jake_musician 19:43:29 pm CDT
I do wish I could find the time to join You Xertog...
Laroona 19:43:48 pm CDT
Jake I think it goes deeper than that
slaves put a lot of effort into learning and to be ignored is deeper than insulting
a Free learns nothing is not forced to learn and IMO should learn as mcuh as slaves
I bet half would not know the difference between a bosk steak and a piece of sa-tarna bread
desiree 19:44:49 pm CDT
will there be notes posted from the book discussions?
~thinking of a fun contest....posting a quote from a book and see who can find out which book it is from~
Jake_musician 19:45:02 pm CDT
That was My meaning behind the insult Laroona...one took the time tgo learn it..the Other should know as well the time spent getting the item..items correct...
Laroona 19:45:53 pm CDT
nodding to Jake
**hee as I step off my soapbox**
Laroona 19:49:33 pm CDT
Reposting the topic for newcomers
Xertog 19:20:34 pm CDT
First topic:
what brought you to Gor...what keeps You in Gor...what have You found in Gor and what do you hope to find in Gor.
Xertog 19:51:40 pm CDT
Any other topic suggestions??? Send me a whisper.
Jake_musician 19:51:43 pm CDT
looks outside..that damn kur keeps Me here
Cavy 19:52:58 pm CDT
I remember when I first came to gor I spent hours writing the menu down and basic language because of two reasons. one I didnt want to look a fool and two out of respect
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 19:53:42 pm CDT
jale did the same Master Cavy
*blushing smile~
kept notes on the desk in front of me
desiree 19:54:40 pm CDT
~raising her hand also~ des did the same thing...just wish she still had them!
nassy 19:54:41 pm CDT
nassy kept the serving suggestions open in another window from the slave manual...
Cavy 19:54:58 pm CDT
jale I was the same..LOL looks like I will have to repeat the task as well
Jake_musician 19:55:17 pm CDT
I think some do study the dictionary and terms..others like Myself..enjoy learning from doing..not beyond asking one what a term means..at least it shows the slave I don't know everything and would hope some respect earned in that way..He is fallible after all..honest and not letting "my" work just be words
Laroona 19:56:14 pm CDT
the GS site and manual is available for all to read and I personally have no problems with slaves having it open as the more they serve and learn the better they become *S*
blckrose{Zor} 19:56:34 pm CDT
this one agrees with Master Jake, this one learns by watching and doing, but also has a window open just in case need to look up something quick
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 19:57:28 pm CDT
*loves her Gorean dictionary~
Cavy 19:57:30 pm CDT
nodding" Jake very good point
desiree 19:57:56 pm CDT
this sounds so silly...but des purchased a thesaurus so she could learn to say sensual in many different ways - she kept this in her notebook also
Laroona 19:58:23 pm CDT
anyone using fadu and rask in front of me will soon get told LOL
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 19:58:41 pm CDT
how many ways can one say sensual, huh des????
*grins...dark orbes sparkling~
aurora{Ulrich}-t 19:58:59 pm CDT
aurora thinks eventually people come to examine their lives, their society…to question things as they are and determine what is correct after reading and learning Gor…does it change us internally? …aurora would like to think so…it has made her much more subservient and has many times brought peace and contentment to her life…...for now she loves to give back to her home what she has learnt and taken from it...and of course...her Master and chain are here...that is first and foremost for this girl to be here
Cavy 19:59:37 pm CDT
but on the other hand being a kill zone if y/you say the wrong thing even by mistake it could cost Y/you. couldnt it?
desiree 20:00:44 pm CDT
lol....well now jale...let's see
fleshly....carnal....pleasure...lusty...hedonistic....lascivious...wanton
VT Gor and RL?
Xertog 20:00:09 pm CDT
New topic:
Does v/t Gor help you to be more in r/t?
Jake_musician 20:01:55 pm CDT
Cavy..most here are understanding..but to watch the perverbial p's and q's a good idea..might depend on how far the implied insult was taken or carried...follow the rules you should be ok or adult enough to ask?
desiree 20:02:14 pm CDT
~shivers~ thinking there is nothing sexier than a Dominant Man in r/t!!!
Jake_musician 20:02:34 pm CDT
refrains from the next topic
Laroona 20:02:38 pm CDT
asking is not a crime and I consider it better to ask than be made look like a fool
Laroona 20:03:20 pm CDT
to answer the next topic in one word... no
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 20:03:29 pm CDT
jale agree's with you des *grins and nods~
but without c/t, jale may never have found her deeper submission so...in answer to the question.....jale would have to say yes, initially
Cavy 20:04:18 pm CDT
nods at Laroona and Jake"...Very true words
Ulrich 20:06:04 pm CDT
Yes I think so. It has helped me with the more imaginative part of my thinking.
It's helped me find parts of me I never knew existed as well.
desiree 20:06:56 pm CDT
~this may sound silly but wonders how many folks found their sex life stronger because of their time in v/t~
nassy 20:07:39 pm CDT
thinking hard about it..yes in some ways it has helped..this one real time
Thom_Slick 20:08:19 pm CDT
~laughs~
desiree, I know I did and my pregnant wife can attest to that.
Sandman 20:08:36 pm CDT
I am probably a little more Doninant R/T but otherwise I am me
Jake_musician 20:08:38 pm CDT
another topic refrained from..thanks des
Grizzly 20:10:28 pm CDT
desiree,,,you atually have to have a sex life to Knowtice a diference.*LOL*
desiree 20:10:42 pm CDT
~laughing~ @ Master Jake...sorry about that!
desiree 20:11:27 pm CDT
oooh...Master Grizzly...You DO have a good point there!
Laroona 20:11:32 pm CDTI consider that the topic re sex life is personal and refrain from answering
desiree 20:12:39 pm CDT
~des sincerely apologizes for her question~
Jake_musician 20:13:20 pm CDT
I thought it brought up a valid idea des..just I'm not to respond in certain ways here.
Protection collars
Xertog 20:13:29 pm CDT
New topic:
A Free offering protection from force collaring un-collared slaves while one is in the site?
How far does this protection go as opposed to an O collar?
nassy 20:14:45 pm CDT
listens to answers on this topic with keen interest
Ulrich 20:15:45 pm CDT
That protection is complete as long as she is in his presence isn't it?
OriginalSandman Builder/Captain of GS 20:15:50 pm CDT
I have always told slaves that My Protection only goes as far as I am present .. after that I tell them they are on their own
Jake_musician 20:15:56 pm CDT
along the lines of the new topic:
as We are trying to get old members back..some of whom might not any longer have a collar...how will Council address that issue? Meaning..some of Us know the persons involved and they "know" Gor..so really not allowed an "O" collar..so then what? They sit in a pvt room? rather dull
desiree 20:16:42 pm CDT
~gulp~
Deirdre of the Green Caste 20:16:52 pm CDT
How far does that protection go? *puzzled* That is at the discretion of the Free Person offering, isn't it? I mean.....if I offered My protection to someone....and I give them a temporary collar of Mine.....who has the right to tell Me I can't do it?
Laroona 20:17:40 pm CDT
I think it is a bit difficult for a FW to offer protection other than being a pledged FW one can offer the standard GS collar
Jake_musician 20:17:49 pm CDT
make that how will Council address it please?
nassy 20:17:57 pm CDT
inhales deeply
Laroona 20:18:26 pm CDT
Deirdre a valid point
who would and could challenge you as collars are honoured
Xertog 20:19:36 pm CDT
Deirdre some times men tell a free neck that they can enter the tavern and offer their protection from a forced collaring.
Laroona 20:20:26 pm CDT
when a newbie or a returning slave enters I advise on safe rooms
(yes the Entry rules are old and need addressing)
and the GS O collar
or the other option go where you want but be advised you could be force collared
Jake_musician 20:20:39 pm CDT
sorta like taking a Yuppie to a Biker Bar...shrugs..and shuts up
Xertog 20:22:10 pm CDT
A girl with a GS observer collar has the protection that a GS slave would have from the Council. But if some Master offers a girl 'their' protection it is only as good as the man that is offering it.
Laroona 20:22:32 pm CDT
and Xertog then they end up collaring the slave some FM are not to be trusted
thankfully most of those have now left GS
Zoran 20:22:52 pm CDT
I have always given those that are new or un decide my protection from force collaring
Grizzly 20:22:55 pm CDT
Jake,,,,Thats acually a Valid Point.I have gotten More then one yuppy,or preppy in & Out of a Biker bar in One peice.*LOL*
Deirdre of the Green Caste 20:22:56 pm CDT
*laughing beneath the veil at Jake's musings*
Jake_musician 20:24:09 pm CDT
so then an old pledged or collared slave enters and might be forced a collar by Anyone?
a nice way to have folks stay away..should there be a time so the returning slave may get accustomed to the New Masters/Mistress' about... I mean a slave wishes to serve yet not wear just Anyones collar and the Ones to serve are in the Tavern..a Kill/Capture zone..she can't serve without putting her neck at risk? I know Gor is a harsh world but it seems too Harsh just now on the semi member drive We seem to want and need?
Laroona 20:24:33 pm CDT
why the GS O collar is 100% controlled by Council and any breaking that collar rules are held accountable to Council
Ulrich 20:24:59 pm CDT
I've often wondered that Xertog. I once offered protection to a girl. I had no interest in collaring her, and of course I am true to my word.
But she was cautious, and didn't know me very well, so she politely declined and just stayed out of the tavern.
Zoran 20:25:38 pm CDT
I think it comes down to the trust that they have
in the Master and most here are honorable
Grizzly 20:25:48 pm CDT
I agree with Jake.
New Members & Old alike need to feel safe,or they wont stay.
shadow{Ulrich} 20:26:15 pm CDT
Master Jake, most of us have been free necks at some point..
there are options.. stay in the piazza or ask a trusted
Master for temporary protection.. *s*
Laroona 20:26:26 pm CDT
some are not Zoran
Ulrich 20:27:09 pm CDT
Jake part of Gor is the risk of being captured is it not?
There are safe rooms where they can have interaction. I see more people in the Piazza than I do the Tavern anyway.
Every week people talk about r/p in the forum, and how there is no action, well if there's no threat of a forced collar, that is closing one avenue of potential role play IMO
Laroona 20:27:43 pm CDT
temporary protection is just that
question is temporary for how long?
shadow{Ulrich} 20:28:32 pm CDT
shadow would think while the Master is present?
jessenia{Rm} 20:28:37 pm CDT
~thinks she agrees with Master Ulrich.. laughs~ ((headache makes it hard to think clearly))
i personally think the Tavern should be an enter at Your own risk... if You know there's the chance.. then it's the chance You take.. that's Gor... just my opinion....
Ulrich 20:29:01 pm CDT
As long as that Master is present Laroona.
If I were to offer protection, if I had to go, I would tell her to heel me out, or she would be at risk.
Plain and simple
Laroona 20:30:14 pm CDT
Ulrich that is true
but what say if the FM was urted and could not get back LOL
Jake_musician 20:30:23 pm CDT
My point being this...a girl enters...having been awhile since she was here..new names..new Masters..wishes to serve..so she stays in the empty Piazza and sits alone while Folks...might..just might be in the Tavern..how does this action get the slave to return to do more then sit alone? if a Master is what is desired..how does she learn who They are from the Piazza? can you learn the trust mentioned from whispers? or words here if they speak up? or might it be better to allow a grace period during the membership drive to be a bit more leanient (sp) on ones wishing to venture to the Tavern and gather her fire back?
OriginalSandman Builder/Captain of GS 20:30:43 pm CDT
I never fail to offer a slave Protection if I am present.. I am not much on force collarings on Principal.. but I know for some ,, the slave may to R/p a forced collar,, for them ,, they always have that option
Zoran 20:30:54 pm CDT
well Laroona that is part of the allure of Gor the risk and the want
you have to take risk sometime
LOL I delt with Kalya to get lara
that risk work out for me lol
desiree 20:30:57 pm CDT
~sighing~ des is getting confused here...but she is blonde....
so for those of us that are bare necked...would it be wise to wear an O or a collar of protection during that time?
OriginalSandman Builder/Captain of GS 20:31:57 pm CDT
and I will usually PM a new face in the piazza to check if they desire protection to enter the Tavern
nassy 20:31:59 pm CDT
desiree hun this one thinks 'cause we are returning after an absence the O collar is not an opition for us...
Xertog 20:32:54 pm CDT
Jake if that girl asked me for an observer collar I'd give her one. As could anybody pledged to GS. They are good for 2 weeks.
Deirdre of the Green Caste 20:33:00 pm CDT
*grinning at Zoran*You deserve a medal of Honor for that one isolated event, My Friend.......and You definitely won that one. *winking warmly to the golden girl in question*
Jake_musician 20:33:12 pm CDT
shrugs...let's get members but FORCE antiquated ideals down the throat from the get go..used to be this place was about the Tavern..hottest paga slaves on Gor...now what..the best mead girls in any Piazza on Gor? I give up
Zoran 20:33:19 pm CDT
the other night we were sparing and I told nassy to join she knows me and trusted me
in most case the old slave know the Master they can trust
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 20:33:37 pm CDT
what are the restrictions of an Observer collar?
Laroona 20:33:47 pm CDT
nassy the O collar is also available for returning slaves *S*
Ulrich 20:34:09 pm CDT
des, an o collar can be issued, but it is only good for a limited amount of time.
Or you can enter the Tavern by requesting someone's protection, if you trust them, but if they are not honorable, they could turn on you.
Or you could take a GS collar, or a personal collar.
OR, you can enter as a free neck, and you may or may not leave as one. lol
Grizzly 20:34:33 pm CDT
Why Don't we just cut out the middle man during the membership drive.
& temporarily make the tavern a No Capture/No Kill zone?
Xertog 20:35:24 pm CDT
nassy I don't have a problem with either of you being granted an O collar.
Jake_musician 20:35:25 pm CDT
and the first topic is what does Gor mean..so in the scenario just mentioned..it has become Observer tags..collars and protection..I dispise "velcro" with a fricking passion and just became to passionate...sorry all
Zoran 20:35:40 pm CDT
that be confusing Grissly and it is good to see you
as when it was made a capture kill zone afterwards
nassy 20:36:08 pm CDT
thank You for clearing that up Master Xertog and Mistress Laroona..
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 20:36:28 pm CDT
*tucks her roll of velcro under her arse...blushes~
Laroona 20:36:31 pm CDT
Jake velcro to me means hopping from one collar to another ie one Free to another
O collars give breathing space not so velcro ish
Zoran 20:37:40 pm CDT
yes velcro collar not a good thing
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 20:38:04 pm CDT
*just likes playing with it........................velcro that is~
Laroona 20:38:31 pm CDT
I also think it would be nice if the pledges of GS gave some slack to those returning slaves....
give them a bit of time without the fear of a force collar..,.
that way we keep them returning and they end up staying *S*
Zoran 20:39:23 pm CDT
I can say for a fact your talking to the choir here Laroona and the ones that do offend are not here
Ulrich 20:39:25 pm CDT
Grizzly I'm glad to see you haven't seen you in a while.
To address your question, I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard (to paraphrase about 3 months of forums) There's no r/p, there's no excitement, there's no danger in GS.
For some that danger of a forced collar could be the appeal that gets them here. There are safe rooms, and there are dangerous rooms.
Gor is harsh, and they can choose which room they enter.
Grizzly 20:39:39 pm CDT
Im all for Giving those who return some slack.*S*
Laroona 20:39:50 pm CDT
Zoran true but heee it is in the notes when they read them LOL
Jake_musician 20:39:57 pm CDT
velcro means a collar with no meaning period. a desire to eb a Tavern slave one thing..to be captured by a Man another..assuming her wiles were sent to the One that captured her..but this is insane..and I for one am sorry I asked others to come back as asked at the last meeting here to be subject to forced rules...so much for My looking like a fool!
Grizzly 20:40:49 pm CDT
Ulrick,,,I'll buy that.*S*
Ya,,,Im working to much Nowadays,& when im Not working,I dont see anyone in here.
Ulrich 20:41:03 pm CDT
I agree with you Laroona, and I think most of us already work like that.
I've got no desire to force a collar
Jake_musician 20:41:18 pm CDT
allows all from Poolside to wander back to reading forum notes on Mondays and slave class on Thursday..and We ask why none are here.
Laroona 20:42:06 pm CDT
Jake is that not where trust comes into it?
the rules are clear
protection can be given by one *how long is a question?
and there is the O collar that is site wide controlled by council
Zoran 20:42:11 pm CDT
lol and I have 3
and they are a hand full lol
Laroona 20:43:03 pm CDT
so Jake you prefer that no notes were kept?
is that what you are asking?
desiree 20:43:34 pm CDT
~knowing that this may not be the correct answer it is how des feels~
when des serves...she always wants to do it with the best of her ability and she always hopes that the Master and Mistress will be of belief that des has served just for them...however, when she serves the One that owns her...the One that she loves...the passion..the desire...her love oozes from every word of her serve...
Laroona 20:43:42 pm CDT
IMO I have see too many force collarings and girls are lost as they are gone......
Deirdre of the Green Caste 20:43:56 pm CDT
*looking at Laroona incredulously*That is NOT what Jake said....or even implied. What's the deal, Laroona?
Jake_musician 20:44:05 pm CDT
Laroona..that is why I asked the Council and at last look you were not on it..so I am still waiting an answer to any suggestions THEY may have as to what might be done to draw folks back?
force them to collars or protection...or allow a grace period to see if they wish remain and mayhaps take a collar from a Master/Mistress?
Laroona 20:44:25 pm CDT
Deirdre not how I read his last post
Ulrich 20:44:39 pm CDT
Jake can they not go to the Piazza? I've had many a good time in the Piazza.
Depending on who's around on any given night, I doubt they would get a forced collar, but again that depends on who is there, and whether they beg and are granted protection.
It's part of this world. They need to understand the risks and the rewards
aurora{Ulrich}-t 20:45:18 pm CDT
not quite understanding where the problem lies
if Masters present are more than willing to offer protection
or O collars are available
why do the rules that are the foundation of what Gor is have to be rescinded for anyone returning to GS?
Deirdre of the Green Caste 20:46:38 pm CDT
Laroona....Well....maybe You should re-read it. That's not how I read it at all. He is trying to make a point. Period. *shaking My head*
Laroona 20:46:45 pm CDT
aurora I agree with you
I am lost as to why the keffufle over rules that are clear cut
shadow{Ulrich} 20:46:45 pm CDT
O collars for returning slaves?
*is confused*
shadow thought an O collar was for a new person
to Gor to see if real interest lies there?
desiree 20:46:58 pm CDT
a girl wishes all a very good night...
Jake_musician 20:47:01 pm CDT
Laroona..You and I just spoke on the very same subject in DM the other day!!! about how easy it is to read the notes and not come here..look at the room..new faces..well older ones to most but they came...and once out of here..force their neck to something not wanted..great..if this place wishes to FORCE capture girls..then raid another site..do the DAMN RP and get folks here..see where that gets Us all
nassy 20:47:12 pm CDT
aurora girl thinks part of this came up from when she was hear the other night..Master Ramses had given His protection for her to join Him jessenia in the tavern another Master entered and was trying to get Master Ramses to turn the girl over...
Jake_musician 20:47:56 pm CDT
be well des and I am sorry I asked you to come back..this is embarrassing
jessenia{Rm} 20:48:08 pm CDT
not that this one's opinion counts for much.. but she's going to toss it in anyway
O collars are fine and dandy.. for new... and maybe returning slaves... but.. stick to the limits of them.. if it's a time frame on them.. stick to it for whoever is wearing it no matter who they are.. whether they're new or not.. when the time frame is up.. they either take a GS collar.. a personal collar if they wish.. or simply go back to free neck...
Ulrich 20:48:21 pm CDT
*re-reading my last post* On the forced collar paragraph, I should have specified in the Tavern, as the Piazza is a no capture zone
Jake_musician 20:49:25 pm CDT
The Tavern...the place known in Gor as the hottest place around is now the Piazza? makes sense...
nassy 20:49:37 pm CDT
jessenia girl has no problem with sticking to a two week period of an O collar, she was until tonight under the impression it was only for new girls...
Laroona 20:50:03 pm CDT
I believe I was answering this and until Council say otherwise I believe notes will be maintained otherwise why should I or other scribes waste our time and effort
Jake_musician 20:41:18 pm CDT
allows all from Poolside to wander back to reading forum notes on Mondays and slave class on Thursday..and We ask why none are here.
Laroona 20:43:03 pm CDT
so Jake you prefer that no notes were kept?
is that what you are asking?
aurora{Ulrich}-t 20:50:10 pm CDT
capture zones exist all over Gor
many free necks return to GS and walk the walk
or are risk for being collared
ask Jarl Skullsplitter that question...
jessenia{Rm} 20:50:17 pm CDT
~smiles @ nassy~ good.. jesse is glad to hear that...
Ulrich 20:50:45 pm CDT
well nassy, if I offered protection, the girl is protected by my sword.
It's cut and dried
Xertog 20:51:59 pm CDT
Notes from slave class have been kept and available for girls going back many years. This isn't something new.
Khaled 20:52:02 pm CDT
I think the O collor should be for only new girls ....seems like returning girls should know what they want in here
Ulrich 20:52:36 pm CDT
The Tavern is a hot place. There is a lot of heat, but along with it comes a degree of danger.
Laroona 20:52:44 pm CDT
Jake yes we did discuss it and my suggestion was then and still is
take it to Council
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 20:52:50 pm CDT
kept notes was never the issue Master Xertog
Mistress Laroona misread Master Jake's post
Jake_musician 20:53:16 pm CDT
they are attending here Laroona...seeing first hand what goes on..and NOT waiting till Monday to read the notes....real easy to find better things to do on a Sunday night and not show up here and learn what goes on in GS from the boards...notes should be kept yes..but if more people know about what went on in here tonight then I do if I was not here..why bother showing up to find out? I can read and shall tomorrow..back to the Final Sopranos
nassy 20:55:05 pm CDT
Master Ulrich and the girl understands about that also should she choose to continue coming in as a bare neck...*smiles*...
she does not take kolars lightly they should never be given or taken unless it's going to stay put for a long while....
many here know how long she waited and waited for one of her Master's to return...before another took her...then He left Gor she has only ever worn two collars, one removed by another Master after One's real time took Him away...and the other until the Master left..
Laroona 20:55:23 pm CDT
LOL well then saves the scribes a lot of work offline and for all of GS there are some who like to go back and read... some come, some cannot
if they have an real interest in GS then they would appear in the site on other days IMO
Ulrich 20:55:23 pm CDT
If everyone waits for the notes, then there are no notes to be read Jake
Laroona 20:57:19 pm CDT
nassy so true in your instance and I for one am pleased to see you here **
shadow{Ulrich} 20:58:06 pm CDT
shadow reads old notes to forums she has been too, goofy she guesses
but she does.. *smiles* or there has been times Master and shadow have searched through notes in reference to something we knew was talked about at a forum.. *s*
Jake_musician 20:58:34 pm CDT
Ulrich...My point..one last time....nobody shows here..as asked last weekend..an idea as to maybe why? 2...used to be if bored here many could chat with buddies in the pool...as We are now alone..not gonna happen unless MSN or another venue used... second..why should I come here when anyone can simply read the notes the next day? maybe We should make forum and slave notes to pledged members only in some way? so the ones wishing to know but never show need come in here?
Ulrich 20:58:41 pm CDT
I can understand that nassy, just as I have no desire to force a collar, you don't wish to be forced into one.
But, isn't the danger exciting to some degree? It keeps you on your toes doesn't it? lol
nassy 20:58:47 pm CDT
thank You Mistress Laroona...*soft smile*..
aurora{Ulrich}-t 20:59:06 pm CDT
knows the importance of wanting and recruiting people to come to our home...
but do the rules that have existed for so long have to be changed or rescinded temporarily...what does that teach people?
slaves who want to enter the tavern...are slaves..free necks
do the training...learn the way many GS slaves have learnt the way many times....and enter the tavern ....its not a matter of walking in, returning and moving directly to the tavern without risk...
Xertog 20:59:08 pm CDT
Next topic :
At what point should a slave be allowed to simply leave from burn out and same question regarding a Master or Jarl.
Also as a side note. Next Sunday is Fathers Day.. At least here in the States. I know i can't make it. How about the rest of you? Is a forum worth having next Sunday ??
shadow{Ulrich} 20:59:53 pm CDT
maybe its the night change?
seems to shadow more were present on Monday nights..
it is getting pretty out and some don't let go of the weekend
until they just have to..
Jake_musician 21:00:39 pm CDT
I'm done...handing in My pledge..do be well all..good luck in all and the selection of a new trainer...
heel Me out girl...
shadow{Ulrich} 21:00:48 pm CDT
could we try it next Monday Master Xertog? just for next week?
Laroona 21:01:58 pm CDT
sighs as I cannot see why not have a change but then that makes it Tuesdays for some
jale{Jake-fg}t~chained to malia~ 21:02:04 pm CDT
*drops the marking stick and blinks....scrambles to her feet and hands the rence to Mistress Laroona~
jale wishes all well
*rushes to heel Master out~
nassy 21:02:14 pm CDT
aye Master Ulrich it does keep the girl on her toes, it also made her beg
Master Ramses permission to leave ....so that the other Master would leave
Him and her alone..
Ulrich 21:02:22 pm CDT
Jake attendance seems to be improving. There are 18 here right now, not
counting those that have come and gone.
Best turnout in a while
Xertog 21:03:38 pm CDT
You are giving up your pledge over what exactly Jake?
Xertog 21:05:24 pm CDT
He's gone. Did I miss something while I was away for that short time? I feel
like I must have.
Thom_Slick 21:05:54 pm CDT
They have tried Forums on Monday nights and they never worked that night as
far to many people work early mornings on Tuesday and Rollo had a hard time
doing them that night a swell.
Laroona 21:06:08 pm CDT
Xertog I think you did
Ulrich 21:07:45 pm CDT
I'm at a loss myself Xertog.
He seemed upset that the "Council" didn't directly answer his question about
making the Tavern a no kill zone.
I'm lost about the forum notes part of it, not sure what his point was there
Laroona 21:08:37 pm CDT
GS has people from all over the world and frankly no time suits all
never has, never will
Deirdre of the Green Caste 21:09:09 pm CDT
Captain Xertog....He left because He was publicly belittled for stating
something that was important to Him.
Deirdre of the Green Caste 21:10:26 pm CDT
He was trying to make a point.....basically about how to "get butts into the
seats" and His words were twisted and thrown back at Him.
Laroona 21:10:45 pm CDT
Deidre what I understood he was not understanding why notes are kept and
considered they should not be
and I was dumped on when I asked *shrugs*
shadow{Ulrich} 21:11:13 pm CDT
belittled?
shadow hopes she was not part of that?
she was just talking about her use of forum notes
and her thoughts on O collars..
Xertog 21:11:51 pm CDT
I was booted when he asked that and as an Advisor you can't speak for the
Council. But it would take a vote of the 5 Captains to change that Ulrich
and I'd be surprised if it got one vote from the 5. But I could be wrong.
They do surprise me at times.
Laroona 21:12:03 pm CDT
I think he wanted rule changes and only council can do that....
aurora{Ulrich}-t 21:12:05 pm CDT
publically belittled?
by whom?
aurora made comments based on GS and what it stands for...thought this was a
forum to do just that ...in no way was she belittling what He was
saying..she was presenting opinions as Others were here
Deirdre of the Green Caste 21:13:15 pm CDT
Laroona....YOU were not the victim here. YOU were not the One dumped on
here. YOU were rude to Him. Period. YOU were the One who twisted His words,
thank You so much. And now YOU are the One playing "pitiful Pearl"......same
song, second verse.
Ulrich 21:13:53 pm CDT
Deirdre I thought it was all healthy discussion. It's a forum, people stated
their thoughts.
Not everyone will agree, but no reason to revoke one's pledge.
Laroona 21:15:05 pm CDT
Deirdre I responded to the notes issue
and you jumped my butt.,.. sorry if I even took that the wrong way
Ulrich 21:15:23 pm CDT
Aye Captain, and though I wasn't speaking for the Council, I explained my
opinion on those rules.
And like you, I'd be surprised to see one vote that way too
Thom_Slick 21:15:56 pm CDT
It is simple, Ulrich. He was commenting on the fact that girls and others
complain about the rules in GS and how things go yet none show up on the
night of the forums to air their concerns as they can just do other things
and read the results in cliff notes as they do not have to be here when it
is all going down.
Deirdre of the Green Caste 21:15:58 pm CDT
Laroona....You are right. I jumped Your butt....but I did it AFTER You
jumped His
Laroona 21:16:44 pm CDT
I cannot see the rules being altered
there are safe rooms, there are non safe rooms
as I said the entry needs changing as it is the old entry
there are protection collars and there are O collars...
I would think those are sufficient
Laroona 21:18:29 pm CDT
Deirdre I asked him a simple question regarding the notes!!!!
Jake_musician 20:41:18 pm CDT
allows all from Poolside to wander back to reading forum notes on Mondays
and slave class on Thursday..and We ask why none are here.
Laroona 20:43:03 pm CDT
so Jake you prefer that no notes were kept?
Deirdre of the Green Caste 21:19:22 pm CDT
We were ALL here, Laroona.......We saw what You said....and know the context
in which You said it.
Laroona 21:20:27 pm CDT
and so Deirdre I was sooooooooooooo wrong
cos asking that question saves the scribes a lot of work outside of GS as
notes are put up in own time
Laroona 21:21:19 pm CDT
plus not withstanding the fact scribes sit here C*Ping for 2 hours or more
Deirdre of the Green Caste 21:22:50 pm CDT
Laroona...Yes...You were wrong. Your attitude was wrong. Your words were
wrong, and the way that You delivered them was wrong. And now....because of
that....Jake and jale are gone.
Laroona 21:23:49 pm CDT
if you prefer to think that way Deirdre
you are entitled to your opinion
same as any one else including me
Deirdre of the Green Caste 21:24:46 pm CDT
Yes...Laroona. I Am.
Xertog 21:26:40 pm CDT
Lets call the forum to a close and this will be a carry over topic:
At what point should a slave be allowed to simply leave from burn out and
same question regarding a Master or Jarl.
I'll e mail Rollo about next Sunday and see if he can make it Sunday or
Monday. I'll make a post on it on the board in a couple of days.
Thom_Slick 21:29:24 pm CDT
~shakes his head as he listens to the in-fighting~
have you all though that maybe this is one reason that some leave. Because
the only thing that can be agreed on is to disagree and not see others
points of view. Jake asked a good question and stated why he hated what he
viewed as velcro kolars, which protection kolars can be viewed as when a
girl can get them from any may with no consciquence because she is not
really owned by any one person. He has a valied point on this and the other
things. But it is just that, a point of view. We all have them and they are
like ass holes because they stink to others.
Laroona 21:31:39 pm CDT
does not mean we all need agree
or that council should change the rules
and forums are where people can express views
Ulrich 21:34:07 pm CDT
Then I suppose I misunderstood his question Thom.
I thought he was asking to make the Tavern a no capture zone, at least temporarily.
When you look at it ,that's what the o collar does, just on a case by case basis.
That's why I didn't understand the issue.
Regardless, my time is up.
I wish you all well
Xertog 21:34:18 pm CDT
Thom perhaps the O collar wasn't explained right. It's for 2 weeks only. You can't keep getting them. I don't think velcro is a good word to describe it.
shadow{Ulrich} 21:38:27 pm CDT
this girl thought it was a healthy discussion as a forum should be?..
*giggiling and wiggling.. *
shadow wishes all well
and a pleasure to kinda meet You Master Slick