PM's, Whispers, and RT info
Rollo the Ax~~~ Well..... with no carry over topics, the floor is open for NEW topics.... PM Me with any if y'all have any...
Rollo the Ax~~~ Well while we wait for a topic, let Me say that I hope everybody has seen the posting I put on the message board... about PM's, whispers, and ppl trying to tell slaves to do things from other rooms.....
Gornt~~~ ~nodding~
Lemuel~~~ ~nodding to the Senior Captain~
Aye Rollo, I saw it. It was good, got right to the point. ~S~
Marius~~~ Laughing..I think you made your feelings clear enough Rollo...LOL
inez{KB}~~~ aye, a girl has seen the post on the boards Master Rollo *nodding*
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~nodding head as Master Rollo speaks~.. aye Master.. one read it and understood it.. ~nodding~
Rollo the Ax~~~ LOL...LOL... Okay... I was concerned that I might have been not quite clear enough... LOL...some times I am just too subtle .....LOL...LOL.. LMAO....
Gornt~~~ like a runaway truck
Marius~~~ Laughing..your as subtle as your Ax Rollo...if they fail to comprehend it after that, they have a terminal case of stupidity and death would be a mercy killing..
Correcting
Rollo the Ax~~~ okay, the first topic sent Me is this....the other day...a "new" Mistress came in...and shortly there after...a girl came in...They did not come in together....but both were new....
and the girl did not beg entrance...nor did the Mistress understand the protocol of the room....
there were two Masters in here...and One Mistress...and the girl was not corrected.....
whose responsibility should it be to "correct" a new girl entering into the tavern..especially if her "Mistress" is new also?
Mandi~~~ Isn't it possible, though for an Owner to bring a slave in tow, and frequently, People come in from other places Who simply are different, and by the time We see They are clueless, it is old news whatever the faux pas might have been.
If an Owner brough the slave in tow, I probably would not make a correction, as that is one way for a slave to enter validly.
Phen~~~ Well Captain I haven't read what you wrote on the message baord as yet but I would whisper to the Mistress and explain to her the rules and tell her that I would like to help in learning about Gor and the potocols and the laws..
Marius~~~ It's the responsibility of everyone that knows better to correct these things...too often I see P/people araid to offend...at the very least the new person should be directed to the homepage...
Lemuel~~~ ~nods at the First Sword's words~
Aye, anyone can point a new person to the Home pages.
Mandi~~~ Phen, You are right. You have always been generous in handing over relevant quotes on a particular topic as well as the homepage link.
I do expect a person to be willing to read a little of the homepage without having to regurgitate its contents for Their benefit.
Gorean Festivals/Holidays in Port Kar
Mandi~~~ Lem, jaz, what are the Gorean festivals, and is there one at this time of the year We could celebrate soon in some way?
Lemuel~~~ ~looking to Mandi~ Well, if we were in Port Kar *after* the Home Stone was found, we could have celebrated the 25th of Se'kara.
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening to Mistress Mandi.. offering~
well we actually missed the Festival of the 25th of SeKara, it usually falling on October 11th..
last year though we did hold an anniversary celebration for the Tavern itself and one believes it's getting close to time for that again..
Gornt~~~ party? did someone say Party?
Phen~~~ Also there is the waiting hand or the Feast of En Kara the Gorean New year I'm rusty so if anyone knows better go a head and clear it up or make it easier to understand that I am*L*
Rollo the Ax~~~ Well, if anybody wishes to set up some sort of festival or such, I see no reason for it NOT to happen.....
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~softly~..
Carnival is held in Port Kar, during the five days of the Twelfth Passage Hand.. (around March 11-15th)..
then after the waiting hand, which is a period where no public rejoicing is done in the city.. between March 16th-20.. the celebration of the Gorean New Year would be celebrated.. this one believes.. which would take place March 21-March 25..
if a girl remembers correctly..
Kayla~~~ ~Looking for volunteers winking at jasma~
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~looking to Master Rollo~
an anniversary celebration like last year, Master?
Rollo the Ax~~~ well, the festival idea can be worked on and held whenever or for whatever reason .....LOL... LOL... nothing is etched in stone..... GS can have a festival for any reason.... LOL..
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~eyes glance to Mistress Kayla~..
a girl has no problem in getting the ball rolling, so to speak, yet she would like to see more people get involved with it, not only the slaves, but Free as well, Mistress..
Gornt~~~ I have done that Rollo, had one for sunrise just last week
marissa{HoS}~~~ one will do what she can jasma just let her know what to do
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ aye, Master..
Rollo the Ax~~~ An anniversary festival sounds as good a reason as any.....LOL...LOL... I will leave it to those that wish to organize such an event to do so and get back to the Council.... Okay ?????
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ yes, Master.. a girl will.. ~nodding~
thank you, marissa for the offer of help
Kovak~~~ shakes my head thinking of past festival~ It mite be wise to have me chained down at festival I end up dancing with the sleens waite I alraedy do ~shakes my head ~
Council of GS, questions
Rollo the Ax~~~ So ???? any body have a topic?????
Molly~~~ Waits for next topic~......
Gornt~~~ the Council
how many make it to the Forums and then to Council business meetting
Kayla~~~ 18 are here now Gornt
Rollo the Ax~~~ Gornt ???? Is that a question ???? If so, the answer is as many as can be here usually are...quite often RT matters get in the way.... as for how we * take care of business * ?? any problems, concerns, or questions are sent to the GS addy, we then post either a formal vote or informal one between ourselves, and decide what we think should be done.... after that, it is up to who ever on the council that has the time or first sees the person in question to handle the matter.....
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening~
Gornt~~~ at the meeting?
I see Rollo, and Marius, and Lemuel and You M'Lady
Gornt~~~ that looks more like four and Lemuel and You have no vote
Kayla~~~ I misunderstood the question Gornt I am sorry... there are two Captains...
Gornt~~~ I know how the process works, but it seems to Me that there are some members of the Council that spend very very very little time in the Shores period let alone on Forum nights.
Rollo I understand You given the geography involved
and this is not a coup attempt, ~chuckling~
But I think if the Captains could be here more often maybe things such as the incident which prompted Your post Rollo, would not happen in the first place
Rollo the Ax~~~ Kayla meant that 18 ppl are here right now, Gornt... but yes, right now there are 2 Captains and 2 Advisors... and even if the Advisors don't have a full vote, the Captains still listen to their thoughts and ideas before We vote or act....
Marius~~~ LOL...we need a topic here soon, or I'm taking a nap...surely there must be something eating at someone they want to discuss...LOL
Gornt~~~ I was offering a topic
Marius~~~ A topic Gornt or a criticism?
Rollo the Ax~~~ Gornt... all I can say is that Council members do what they can, when they can.... GS has always relied on Pledged Patrons to help keep the place going and to try and point out to new ppl when they are doing things in a wrong way...
Mandi~~~ The bottom line remains that an Individual is resonsible for His or Her conduct. The best teaching tool is a good example, but Many will be in here whatever He or She is "out there."
Gornt~~~ topic
how do we get regular members to come to the Tavern more often if they see that the Council doesn't come very often
Kayla~~~ Not to take up for My Own per say but that is why there is so many now to spread out that Gornt... usually when I am one My Captain is sitting close by and if some thaing needs His attention like the tanya situation the other night I call Him in... but having six Captains give them various times of in time... since we have to in Aussyland and different time of work and school schedules... But they are around I think more than most patrons know
Gornt~~~ then nevermind I am sorry I brought it up
vika{Marius}~~~ ~So are W/we saying here...that the Council is reponsible for the Tavern being full? vika does not think so.....if even 'half' of T/those that appear on the board to flame or here now at the Forum appeared at any given time...the Tavern would be full. *respectfully*~
Rollo the Ax~~~ Plainly put, Gornt.... Captains are still just regular ppl also.... work, school, health, and life still effects all of us also.... It boils down to a simple case of * Shit happens * quite often....
Rollo the Ax~~~ No, Gornt.... You had a question and an opinion... Nobody should fault You for either.... I can see your point... but like many things in life, there is little or NOTHING that Myself or any other council member can do about it.... We all just have to * get by * or do what we can what what we do have.... Okay ????? When they make Me immortal and young again, and elect me * KING of the WORLD * I'll fix everything......LOL...LOL.. until then, I can only do so much....like any other man....
Gornt~~~ ~nodding~
Lemuel~~~ ~nods at Rollo's words~
This week I've been in the Tavern more than I normally can. Except for Friday night, the Tavern had several Patrons here.
Kayla~~~ I know I am not in during the day much so I have no idea if any Council members are here but between Sg and Me We are usually here between 7pm est and 3 am est each day... We cover alot of time... and we see many of the Council members coming and going in those times on various days and various times
of slaves and subs
Molly~~~ ~quietly says~
Well I've asked why some slaves who are GS why do they not come in and most say fear of a forced ko~lar do you think that might be part of the problem? also some say that there threatened or just plain looked over and some feel that some slaves come and go as they please while others are forced to tow the line
calia{GS}~~~ *~confused eyes looking toward Mistress Molly*~ listening....
Marius~~~ I see slaves treated the same by the Council Molly...there is a big difference between a kajira and a BDSM slave...read one of the books and you will see that...and the only forced ko-lor a slave really has to fear is a tavern one...which will be placed around her neck after an appropriate time...
Mandi~~~ Molly, certainly if that appears to be happening, it should be cut and pasted to the Council or to the first girl. Sometimes the differences in skill levels are taken into consideration in deciding how much to correct. And We all get a certain amount of slack in here, without it existence here would not be possible.
And failing or deciding to not correct a slave may be an admission that that one will not be around long enough to invest much time in. What looks like "favoritism" might be quite a different thing.
We Free Women are the beneficiaries of opportunities to learn from our faux pas as well.
Molly~~~ ~no I didn't mean the council I meant in general~
calia{GS}~~~ *~touching at her claimed throat~* knowing this slave feels the freest,in her tavern collar...~* - it truly can't be forced on a slave ~* for her surrender,is breathtaking as the true kajira emerges ~*
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~fingers scribe quickly.. confused as she tries to not get things screwed up.. listening~
Marius~~~ Eyeing calia...a true kajira...down to her pretty mewling slavemound...WEG
Molly~~~ I guess I bring up bad subjects that are mostly hush hush I apologize It's just I wish more people would vocalize their frustrations and not hold them in then when its touched on they get withdrawn~
kneels quietly~
calia{GS}~~~ ~* sweetest mewl rivers from warm lips, just for Him~*
Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Molly, the subject isn't *hush, hush* or *bad*. Sometimes girls are ignored because they fail to beg entrance. That's one of the protocols.
Kayla~~~ Molly I don't think the subjects are just hush hush.... just that most people here don't understand what You are saying...
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening~
Marius~~~ Molly....a woman does not chose to be a Gorean slave if she wants to be treated with resect...to understand the concept of kajira means to submit...body and soul...I think more slaves are lost to GS because of kindness than harshness...a female needs to know she is dominated...owned...property...to be used at her master's will...to be pleasing enough to make him want to use her...being kajira is not a game..its a lifestyle..
Phen~~~ I think what Molly is trying to say is that girls are tired of not being used...
Phen~~~ Exactly Marius and I don't feel that is happening*smiles*
shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~kneels, thighs spread, in awe of Master Marius' words~*~
Molly~~~ Okay~ I'm saying that when not in GS alot of GS slaves who are not owned tend to vent and in open~ and it has come up that they come into the forums after they start because of the forcing of ko~lars I may be using the wrong terminology but they wait til the forum starts~
Then there's some who say that Masters look over them the choose not to use them they feel unwanted~ also there's a very BIG concern that a few BDSM slaves come and go as they please and do as they like and they feel it not fair~ this is what I see and what I'm told~
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~offering respectfully~..
one feels that those slaves that *come and go* as they please are not true slaves..
~shrugs~.. Masters demand all from a girl.. Men aren't going to put up with those that feel they can walk all over a Master.. girls learn their place swiftly.. IF.. they have that desire.. and if not.. they leave and go somewhere else to play their games..
just because jaz has been part of Gor for awhile now.. doesn't mean that this one would even *try* to get by with something.. she knows her Owner won't allow that.. nor will most Masters she's in contact with..
~shutting up~
Molly~~~ I hear your words Marius and I agree
ma_tish~~~ ~*~the girl smooth slender hands over the tattered rags that clothe her, biting down on her lower lip as she listens in dismal silence~*~
Phen~~~ Molly a forced collar is placed on a girl who enters the tavern and has no owner at all GS slaves have owners so then maybe it the begging to enter they are complaining about?
calia{GS}~~~ *~softly ,picking the only part calia can comment on~* looking toward Mistress Molly....
slaves have no choice here ~* should a Master NEVER choose to fur her, command her to serve,or dance....basically, too bad! that is a slaves fate in life and she best thrive to be better,instead of feeling sorry for herself ~(* she will only end up , dead......
Lemuel~~~ Molly, if the girls are *unowned* they are not Tavern slaves. And if they are afraid of being collared then why would they come to GS at all? Are they looking for a *particular Master?
calia{GS}~~~ *~warmly smiling to mistress jaz*~ purrring ,purrrfect said *s*
shirin{SholGar}~~~ ~*~whispers to calia~*~ that's what shirin was trying to put into words, you said it perfectly heart ~*~warm smiles~*~
calia{GS}~~~ *~floating a kiss to shirin*~ knowing smile *s*....
Phen~~~ calia I don't think you really mean that or maybe you do now after learning the hard way maybe your insights of what you went through may help other girls that are going through this it would only be a matter of finding out who they are or stating as much for thoses girls to contact you when next they see you..
Molly~~~ Well like I said these are the words of GS girls who are at this sight and I can't answer for them I just try to help but sometimes I guess venting to others is better then venting where it counts~ just trying to help~ ~waits for next topic~
calia{GS}~~~ ~*looking to Mistress Phen~* truly,a girl does feel this way, there is no other way for a slave to feel!
calia want a particular Master alll day long,but she may NEVER have permission to even approach Him ~* she is fortunate everytime she is allowed to enter the tavern ~* a girl has no privledge,to ~want~ anything...
her serves are done with complete heart,and devotion
so very pleased to be called upon*~ truly,this is calia's emotion on the matter..
and aye Mistress Phen,calia asked who the girls were in whisper,to offer help and support ~ but heard no words back yet ~*eyes lowered~*
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~looking to Mistress Molly~.. girls that wear a {GS} collar, Mistress?
~smiling warmly to calia in thanks~
calia{GS}~~~ ~*softly~* GS girls are those in GS{collars} aye ,Mistress Molly? slaves of calias chain? ~*compassionate gaze~* , or girls with no collar, wanting to learn???? ~
MsTime4Play~~~ ~twists long blonde lock of silken hair while waiting ... Am learning much about expectations tonight~
Lemuel~~~ Molly, as I said. If these girls are not owned, then they are not *GS girls*. They may visit here, but unless they are owned by the Tavern or by one of the Free Patrons, these girls are just visiting slaves.
Molly~~~ truth? Both some present~ some not~ but before I say the wrong thing I'll just sit back and wait for the next topic~
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~offering~.. it is a lot of a slave, Mistress.. it's not easy.. it can be damn hard at times.. yet.. one feels perhaps it's a period in which many of the slaves go through.. right.. wrong.. one knows although this is VT.. and yet.. rt feelings do play a part in many instances.. just the part of the individual.. but.. we should just be happy we're allowed to enter the Tavern..
other things can be done.. and be fun.. that isn't in the context of being used.. if a girl's being used.. that's great.. if not.. that's ok as well..
~hushing up once more~
inez{KB}~~~ *speaking up, keeping voice even through out her speach, eyes lowered respectuflly, hoping to come across clearly to A/all*
Mistress Molly, will all due respect, this girl has known many of the GS slaves a long time..... and has been friend with many of them both before and after they this girl found their slave bellies and never has she heard any of them complain about the BDSM slaves of subs unless they openly disrespected One. most times they take the problems up amongst themselves as we are all sisters in bondage.
as for the force ko'larings, a girl helped oneof her sisters to beg for a GS collar becasue she knew it would be the best way for her to learn and convinced her that there isn't really One Master here that wouldn't help a girl in their own way.
calia{GS}~~~ *~ smiling toward mistress~* aye, a slaves path,winding and odd at times - but every moment allowed at the feet of Free, a wench should savor the times she is called upon ~* -
Marius~~~ If there is a problem with the slaves on the GS chain.....It would behoove them to report to Council.......or first girl....
Lemuel~~~ ~S~ As for the use issue...there are a couple of Masters that will use a girl in the room. If an unowned girl truely wants use, she can beg it of one of these Masters. About the collaring...this is a capture room, plain and simple. If the girls don't like that, tuff.
Molly~~~ Okay inez I hear your words too but I'm unsure of your role in GS because you now wish to be a Mistress and how can you be ko~lard and be a Mistress~ No disrespect just Im trying to understand the thinking of the people who come here.
serena{B}~~~ ~quietly listening~~~~~~~
calia{GS}~~~ *~ offering softly*~ the confused wench purrs an idea before sealing suckable lips..~*
whatever the confusion with DM girls ....
bdsm submissives can never expect the same rights once entering a place where Men rule the world and slaves serve Free ~* the bdsm connection ,~bond~ ,whatever is very different between Master/slave.....
Mandi~~~ **looking to Molly** I don't think that the roles P/people have in here are binding in another room and vice versa. inez is a most pleasing girl when she comes into GS and I don't care if she is a Klingon Warrior in another room
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ ~listening to her Owner's words.. nodding head.. truth spoken~
estri~~~ seems to me that someone has a problem with the T/those from BDSM...i don't understand what the relevance of this discussion is
Molly~~~ Mandi~ in my readings I read you represent GS at ALL times and right now I've given myself completely to Sabre I'm not trying to make judgement on her personally not at all.
Lemuel~~~ ~S~ I don't think anyone has a problem with people from BDSM coming to visit as long as they follow the rules for the room, estri.
estri~~~ then i gather your naked icons will no longer be gracing the pool Molly?
inez{KB}~~~ Mistress Molly, with all due respect, a girl was only addressing the issues of "GS girls" "venting in other rooms in open about BDSM girls......which a girl hasn't seen any do so ever and that ko'lars aren't really forced and that she encourages her new sisters that wish to remain and learn to take on a GS ko'lar. she said nothing of wanting to be a Mistress outside of GS. this girl is totally devoted to her Master no matter what.
Mandi~~~ Molly, excuse Me, but I still think One has much to learn before trying to correct Others in such a high profile manner. You expect to be an instant "authority" and for "your reading" to mean something. Best to get a little more experience being a Gorean Free Woman before telling Us what to do.
Lemuel~~~ ~shaking My head~ No Molly, we don't represent GS at ALL times. If I go over to another room, I'm a guest. I'm not going to try and roleplay a Gorean in a non-Gorean room.
Phen~~~ *Looking to both Mandi and Molly and sitting on the fence* I agree with both of you to a point and yes we should not be able to dictate what ppl do outside of this room but I just don't know how someone who is a slave of Gor can be anything else*shaking my head* This is so confusing...
Molly~~~ That's RIGHT! only in private for Sabre and I'm in the process of getting more FW icons so YES~ estri I am~ your next question?
Lemuel~~~ I think that people need to get their tempers under control. A primary rule of these forums is that EVERYONE will treat the others in the room with RESPECT. Let's not forget that.
calia{GS}~~~ *~surreal smile toward Master Lemuel*~ as calia nods..
aye Master....
jasma{LB}GSFG~~~ yes, Master.. ~dark gems lift up to Him.. ~
Mandi~~~ TMI, TMI.
ma_tish~~~ ~*~jumps a bit as the Master's booming voice echoes through the tavern, sapphire orbs look to Him as she brushes a raven strand from her eye, giving a small nod of agreement~*~
Lemuel~~~ ~S~ Allright, as it's about time for the forum to be over, if there's nothing further to add I'll call it to a close.
Lemuel~~~ ~S~ o.k. - forum's closed since it's past time to do so.