Rollo_the_Ax 19:33:48 CST The FIRST order of busines is to announce that the GS Council has decided to offer an across the boards general Amnesty to ALL those that have been banned from GS in the past...... this is an honest offer to give them a second chance to come back to GS and take part.....
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 19:35:16 CST *hearing the first topic brought up.. thinking this over*
hmmmm.. in all honest.. I never really knew Wwho was banned.. there was nowhere from old and new that showed who were..
sha_hara_Sg_ 19:35:42 CST 24.113.47.211 -listening to Master Rollo, a light smile sitting upon her full lips-
squishy{Sg} 19:35:56 CST smiles* thanking that is a wonderful idea about the Amnesty
Rollo_the_Ax 19:36:25 CST this in NO WAY excuses any past offences or misconduct, but is an effort to give them another chance to come to GS and take part...... BUT it needes understood right from the start, that ANY repeats of misconduct or failure to follow the rules set down by the Council will result in an immediate re-banning.....
~constance~{GS} 19:36:52 CST she thinks it is a good thing as well, smiles..
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 19:36:56 CST ShadowHawk. That was not a topic ~L~
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 19:37:40 CST *nodding commiting to memory the decision made and its stipulation Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 19:38:13 CST nor was I asking question Blade.. just a comment bout I wouldn't who it would be or not.. nothing more.. *nods firmly*
Mercure 19:38:34 CST 64.228.206.173 ~Wondering what offense migh be of concern~
Rollo_the_Ax 19:38:38 CST It is our hope that some, if not all, of those that have been banned have come to see the errors of their ways, or perhaps have grown in their VT Gorean lives.......
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 19:38:46 CST sheesh.. *typos already*.. lol
wouldn't know who it would be or not
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 19:42:06 CST hmmmmm... however.. if the past errors are still being held in thought.. would it be not good to know who were banned and what their offense were.. or does total amnesty mean.. only the Councile will know of offense and such?...
Rollo_the_Ax 19:42:59 CST Hey folks... we can all except that ppl will make mistakes..... sometimes egos are involved or personality conflicts, and sometimes it is just a case of " a leapord NEVER changing their spots " ..... So we will offer them the chance..... if they still want to not * play nice * it wil be their own silly fault if they get the boot in the ass again..... it is as simple as that... I will post a letter on the message board some time today annoucing this .....
lara{Zor} 19:44:17 CST this one knows when she first came in she messed up big time...and had to leave, she went and learned and begged to be aloud back and had to prove she could be a good girl..and she is forever thankful for that..she has grown much in the years
constance~{GS} 19:44:41 CST Lestens knowing Master Rollo is right..
Jaegers_kath 19:45:29 CST 207.69.139.156 ~covers face to hide happy tears~
Mercure 19:45:47 CST 64.228.206.173 ~Nods in Agreance with Rollos comment~
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 19:46:08 CST *nodding*
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 19:46:53 CST I am sure I have messed up a few time. *Looking around to see if Paedur is going to pop out and name someof them* ~LOL~
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 19:48:05 CST is this topic.. or more an announcement of deicsion? something to discuss.. or just announcement?
Rollo_the_Ax 19:49:48 CST Nobody was ever banned from a single mistake.... those that got banned were warned many times, and still saw fit to misbehave..... so it will be again..... To show what I mean..... one person that was banned was Dak.... he came into GS with very different ideas of just what HE should be able to do ....when and where and to whom..... he was told REPEATEDLY that he was doing wrong, and still didn't change his actions....openly defieing the Council... so he was banned.... he then tried to lure slaves away to his own private room and unfortunatly, a few good kajira listened to his drivel for a time until they saw the light .....
galah{RA} 19:50:57 CST and even though he has been banned on more than one occasion Master Rollo, he also will be allowed back again?
Rollo_the_Ax 19:53:21 CST The point is, that if even Dak comes back and * plays by the rules * he will be given a chance to prove that he has changed..... so it shall be with all..... but the Council will NOT accept any repeated misconduct from those that have shown that they can't follow OUR rules...
galah{RA} 19:54:02 CST a subject that gal was asked by Lady Laroona to put forth, as the Lady could not be here.....the suggestion was put forth that perhaps fw could be in the tavern for special occasions, such as pledges, collarings, will have to go find the other occasions Rollo_the_Ax 19:55:21 CST Yes.... we can't very well call it an Amnesty for al if some are excluded...... LOL.... it will just be a case of the Council keeping a * closer eye * on some more than others...LOL...
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:56:06 CST topaz whispered a topic to Master Rollo on Mistress Laroona's behalf
{ZOR}liata 19:56:05 CST some sites allow FW in if they are sponsered by a FM that will be accountable for Her actions
galah{RA} 19:56:08 CST 1. Pledges of New Free to GS
2. Advancement of one through the ranks to Advisor and Captain etc.
3. A FW submitting – collaring – (it is a rare event and worth watching)
4. Brandings – maybe medical assistance for a FW healer
5. Spars – often good to watch – as often crowds afford good role play (not that these occur often at GS)
6. Special Events such as dancing contests, or events to draw others in to compete
7. The Festival of the Sea
8. Other events the Captains may decree by invite - or invite via PM with protection a given if something unusual is happening – must be by a Captain or Advisor though, and it be clearly stated the FW was invited.
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 19:58:01 CST reading the words, she smiles and thinks it a wonderful idea indeed, and FW should be allowed ot attend things like that!!
galah{RA} 19:58:23 CST these would be the events for consideration for FW in the tavern?
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 19:58:33 CST galah what is that for?
sha_hara_Sg_ 19:58:56 CST 24.113.47.211 -listening to the beautiful galah and nodding her head even as she smiles, thinking that a good idea-
galah{RA} 20:00:20 CST Lady Laroona ask that it be a subject for decussion for the FW to come into the tavern
Rollo_the_Ax 20:02:48 CST That list of events where FW might be allowed in the Tavern seems reasonable I guess..... the matter wil have to be put before the Council so that we may think it over and vote on it.....
{ZOR}liata 20:03:13 CST well this one thinks it is a great idea .. at least for special occasions ... to be excluded from everything ~shruggs frowning~
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:05:00 CST I am not sure if they should be if a Free is pledging to GS or during branding of a slave. If a slave is branded maybe allow a FW if she is a healer, but just to watch I don't think so.
galah{RA} 20:07:58 CST well, taking it one by one perhaps, i think they should be able to be there for pledging of new members, for the fw are going to be doing alot of helping to the free in the piazza to help them learn, then they should be able to see that one that they helped pledge, just my opinion though
Rollo_the_Ax 20:09:02 CST LOL...LOL... that is why it is called * denate or discussion * Blade.....LOL.... the matter will be offered for concideration to the Council.... the pros and cons weighed..... and then a vote... and the majority will have its way..... each Captain has only ONE vote, so no ONE person gets his own WAY on very issue.....LOL...
{ZOR}liata 20:09:05 CST Master Blade can this one ask why You feel they shouldnt.. they could stand by the door and leave after
Rollo_the_Ax 20:10:31 CST ...* denate=debate *.....LOL.. don't know if I should blame my eyes or my fingers...LOL..
galah{RA} 20:11:20 CST and for #3....FW submitting, they should be there for that to see where their own heart lies, they will either find it distastful or they will find it amazing and maybe even envious
Jaegers_kath 20:12:15 CST 207.69.139.156 Three cheers for the Council! ~standing and then sitting right back down, grateful for Captains~
Rollo_the_Ax 20:14:15 CST It is an age old fact that * rules * only work when they are followed..... exceptions are well ment and have uses at times.... the worry I think that Blade has or others, is that once an exception is granted, they not 2,4,187........ and when does the * special time * end ??? right after ??? 1 minute?? 5 minutes ??? drinks and coffee in the sitting room ???? LOL...
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:14:35 CST Ok Back
As Rollo said it will be talked about by the council.
Rollo_the_Ax 20:16:38 CST I can see that perhaps some if not all of these * special exceptions * have merit, and may well deserve the exceptions to the rules...... but to work, they will have to be very specificly defined, and followed, if they are to work for everybody......
sha_hara_Sg_ 20:18:02 CST 24.113.47.211 -nodding as she listens to Master Rollo, nodding her head softly as she listens, agreeing with what He was saying...-
Rollo_the_Ax 20:19:14 CST The second issue that Laroona wanted discussed is ; slaves being aware that Free are in both rooms and must intergrate to see if service is needed, as often new Free are coming in now and the Piazza is a good learning point....?????
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 20:20:40 CST *chuckles*.. but Rollo.. that is what is called getting your foot in the door.. before opening it.. very good polticial move.. LOL however.. I believe the FW should be allowed in for the "special" events.. for they only happen once.. just once and is a very joyous occassion for anybody that calls GS home
Mercure 20:21:11 CST 64.228.206.173 Nods {knowling he was new in the Piazza and wondering}
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:22:07 CST Yes I have to agree. I have sat in the tavern and waited 30 mins and no offer of service while the Piazza was full was full of slaves sitting and chatting with frees
constance~{GS} 20:22:14 CST smiles agreeing with Master ShadowHawk
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:22:39 CST this was something topaz was going to bring up at both the trainers meeting and slave class this week....
we as slaves MUST remember, that ther eis a Piazza where people go to....and some new ones as well as FW....many times there is one Maste rin here and 5 slaves, yet none go and offer service in the Piazza....topaz wnats all the slaves ot be more aware of this and LOOK to see wh o is there
if there is new people there for example, and none ot serve them, first impressions are everything, they will not return!
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 20:22:41 CST exactly.. I concur with Blade.. and only to see another Free come in that is "liked" then the slaves flock in..
lara{Zor} 20:24:01 CST she smiles listenin to Master ShadowHawk..agreein with Him
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:24:41 CST I know topaz is on her toes, cause she asked to serve the FW that was in the Piazza. Just need to train the others like that too. ~LOL~ I am sure some of the girls are like topaz, but have not seen what ones. ~LOL
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:24:54 CST also, it is a good place for slaves ot go and relax when not in service, such as nely branded slaves, they would be amazed at how much they could learn from the Lady...as well as having fun!...grins
squishy{Sg} 20:26:15 CST kinda half here so not sure if this is even on the topic,...
but squishy thinks that if a Master needs to be served in the Piazza and He askes for something that is not in the Piazza then the slave should go and fetch it herself... not ask the Free to follow her to the tavern...
everytime Master asks for His Kalana in the Piazza... squishy runs to the tavern and fetches it and brings it back.
{ZOR}liata 20:27:45 CST this one was tols that the servery and cold room was also connected to the tavern so one didnt need to leave the piazza to serve
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:28:15 CST eyes widen as she ehars squishy....what slave actually asked for a Master to follow her to the tavernas the drink was not in the Piazza???...
good grief!!
a slave serves, she finds the items, period.....never ever should a master be asked to follow her to another room as she has to fetch it...shicked look
Rollo_the_Ax 20:29:07 CST I am sure that some form of system can be worked out to make things equally fair for both rooms....
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 20:29:15 CST that be true topaz.. I have sat in the tavern.. with three or four slaves in piazza with Lady Laroona.. not one during the half hour or so I was there.. came in to offer serve..
squishy{Sg} 20:29:54 CST Only heard about it sis so squishy thought she would throw that out there
galah{RA} 20:29:56 CST agreeing with squishy....i thought all the same drinks was available at the piazza? thought the cold room was shared between the tavern and piazza?
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:32:21 CST master Hawk, topa zis surprised to hear that, as she has found it the other way around most times..LOL..all the slaves in the tavern, none in the Piazza...sooooooooooooooo...which is why she has this as a hot priority to bring up this week, both at the Trainer's meeting and slave class, for the girls to be more aware, and watch the who's where list carefully
Rollo_the_Ax 20:34:22 CST Okay folks..... lets have a little bit of a reality check here....even if we are doing this in VT..... as for * items not in the Piazza but in the tavern * ???? * I * feel that the slaves should just be able to * go get * whatever, WITHOUT actually going into the tavern...too much lost time and effort...just a simple * running the door to the whatever, to get the whatever*, and still be in the Piazza..... WHY make a shit load more work for the kajira ????
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:35:09 CST Ohhh I have seen a few Frees in there before ~LOL~
Laroona 20:35:18 CST Tal al
Haw I dispute that I have at all times will and do send slaves to the Tavern yet I see more often the other way around
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:35:35 CST exactly Master Rollo!!....well said!!....topaz will see to correcting any misconceptions with the slaves Master....
Penny 20:35:47 CST I sort of agree with Rollo on the running back and forth thing, though if there's a slave who WANTS to go back and forth, sort of to peek at the action, I don't see why they couldn't...
I would think it would sort of be up to the individual person behind the keyboard...
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 20:35:56 CST Penny.. I visit out there quite frequently.. in fact,.. *winking*.. We had a run in.. over quibble.. but .. it had happened in Piazza.. LOL...
Laroona 20:36:24 CST I agree the drinks can be served from the same place
Penny 20:37:07 CST *grininng to the guys* Yeah, yeah, I didn't say that no one EVER visits us out there... heh, heh. It would be nice if people visited MORE, though... *grins*
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 20:37:55 CST well then Laroona.. You had not done that when I was there..for none came.. *seeing tassa enter.. noding to her with a smile.. reaching down.. hugging her to My thigh when she comes to feet*
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 20:39:02 CST as for drinks.. it had always been said.. what is available in Tavern.. is available in Piazza..
Laroona 20:39:49 CST Hawk maybe you was blind Unless it was slaves resting after a branding I alwaye make sure the Men are served I do not hog the slaves... I am a FW and put the Men first but I do get angry when I see 1 Male and 4 slaves so it cuts both ways
Rollo_the_Ax 20:41:06 CST Now, also in the realm of reality.... lets again be candid..... * slaves should serve * that is a rule.... but where they spend their time is determined by either themselves or their Master/Mistress..... if the REAL woman behind the keyboard wants to be in the Piazza, that is where she will go..... or she may well decide to not be here at all.....
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:42:05 CST Hey I had fours slaves with me in the tavern and if ya recall I brought all for into the Piazza with me. ~L~
Laroona 20:43:24 CST aye Blade indeed you did and I had them rest as I had to leave for a RT
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:46:41 CST as topaz sees it, the main issue period is a slave is to serve....and if there are slaves about, and Free about, they serve them, no matter what the room
Rollo_the_Ax 20:47:43 CST Again, simply put, and being honest as HELL here folks........ Masters have * favorite* kajiras.... and kajira's have * favorite * Masters..... and at times, there are even kajira that would rather leave than have to serve some drop kick of an HNG..... what we need to do is have a set limits of what we WILL except and what we WON'T .... that may well fall on the Council to set such a program up..... I don't know just what or how right now, but if it keeps being a problem, we will deal with it......
Laroona 20:50:44 CST Rollo I agree with your words *noding respectfully to the Captain* I see GS is growing and I for one am hoping that the slaves as well as the Free assist these newcomers in welcoming them to GS and having them leave with a pleasant experience and they come back and more important tell their freinds *S*
galah{RA} 20:51:42 CST **claps lil hands at the Lady Laroonas comment**
Rollo_the_Ax 20:52:12 CST If..... there are/were say, 5 slaves in the Piazza and only 1 free there..... and I went into the tavern and sat for 30 minutes, and no slave came..... Myself, I would get up off my dead ass, and go into the Piazza to see what was so damn great there.....LOL... but that is only Me, I guess.....LOL...
{ZOR}liata 20:52:19 CST if a rule is made ..then the rule needs to be followed and enforced or whats the point of having rules
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 20:53:48 CST hearing Mistress laroona, topaz smiles... true Mistress, and topaz feels that most do indeed work hard to make the newcomers feel welcome....i mean afterall, tis to the slaves beneift to have more masters about as well...grins....
seriously, whenever topaz has been around, she watches carefully, and sees most of the girls make the effort well to welcome newcomers
Laroona 20:54:29 CST LOL Rollo exactly
would be a tea party of some sort going on *Laughing*
the question you now pose can a FW go to the tavern door and yell "get your lazy butts into the Piazza there are 3 FM here to serve"" *chcukling at the hought
Blade~xXx~Advisor~Warrior~ 20:55:36 CST I did it cause I wanted to see how long it would take for a slave to notice me in the tavern ~LOL~ I am sure I could have gone longer. ~L~
Hawk_Rarius_of_GS 20:56:12 CST yea well.. Rollo if you came in to Tavern.. the five and more would flock in.. simple as that
Rollo_the_Ax 20:58:01 CST Laroona..... THAT is the EXACT POINT !!!!!!!!! New folks need to see what is GOOD about Gor and GS......not petty fighting and snipping..... and to keep GS and Poolside alive, Gary M needs ppl to buy memberships..... it is all so simple to My thinking...... NOBODY stays here, or ANYWHERE, if they are not happy...
Laroona 21:00:18 CST Rollo you said it perfectly
I consider we all no matter our status aim for *smiling*
Rollo_the_Ax 21:00:28 CST LOL..LOL... * huffing on My fingernails, and brushing them on My chest......* " Well, guys..... LOL.. some of us have chuncky kness, and so of you don't....." LOL...LMAO... what can I say ???? I am a kajira magnet.....LOL...LOL.... rolling on the floor laughting my ass off !!!!!!!! lol..
lina{Harkon} 21:01:50 CST ~quietly slips inside waving a greetings to All as her eyes roam over the huge Man of Torvaldsland. growling~ i love chunky knees!! hehehe
sha_hara_Sg_ 21:02:12 CST 24.113.47.211 -laughing as she heard Master Rollo, thinking, aint that the truth? He was a kajira magnet then giggling again-
topaz-{Rast's_girl}_GSFG 21:02:41 CST LOL..topaz was referring to Master Rollo's previous post, but hey, the clapping stands for Him being a kajira magnet as well....!!
Rollo_the_Ax 21:09:25 CST To get back to serious business here folks...... I guess the point I am trying to make here is that we ALL need to take things a lot less seriously.... don't look at ever little mistake or action as an insult..... many times folks aren't really trying to piss you off... they just do it by accident..... LIGHTEN UP, and enjoy life..even VT life MORE......
Penny 21:10:57 CST *listening to Rollo and nodding*
Exactly! The whole point is to just have fun, and if being online is a burden, something is wrong... *smiles*
Rollo_the_Ax 21:26:51 CST Well folks.....it looks like time has run its course.... We are finished with todays/tonights forum..... I thank you all for being here..... and invite everybody again next week.....