Present:
Sandman
Keeper
Kazar
Bretval
Dak
Lita
snowrose
ruby
maddie-anne
shimmer
chocolate
flicka
Dak 19:37:21 pm CDT
if any have a topic, whisper to Me, and I will open the forum,
is a girl scribing this night, snowrose
Keeper of flicka 19:38:08 pm CDT
Tal Dak
Tal Bretval
Greetings maddie-anne ruby and snowrose
~I raise an eyebrow in flicka's direction and wait.~
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 19:38:25 pm CDT
~looks to flicka to see if she will be able to stay for the whole forum
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 19:40:55 pm CDT
one of us will be scribing for sure Master Dak
Dak 19:41:53 pm CDT
good, *smiles*, still need a topic, *smiles*
flicka-slave of Keeper 19:41:55 pm CDT
~humming softly, off with the fairies.~
greetings maddie-anne.
greetings mistress snowrose.
~pale blue eyes flicka toward her Jarl as He enters, a little shake as she comes out of her reverie and sees His small, imperceptible gesture.
all of a flurry flicka swooshes from her knees and scurries to Him, sinking with all the grace of a new born bosk calf she rests her hand lightly on His boot and smiles up at Him in rapturous joy~
flicka-slave of Keeper 19:42:30 pm CDT
mistress snowrose flicka will scribe.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 19:42:56 pm CDT
Thank you flicka ~smiles gratefully~
Dak 19:43:50 pm CDT
topics anyone ?
Bretval, Merchant 19:43:58 pm CDT
as graceful as ever, flicka
flicka-slave of Keeper 19:44:57 pm CDT
~chuckling~ aye Master Bretval, all knock knees and fawnish legs going every which way.
Dak 19:50:28 pm CDT
Forum hasn't begun, yet, still waiting for topic, *smiles*
Keeper of flicka 19:50:50 pm CDT
Tal Captain
Tal Dak
The noise you hear is My higher brain functions reacting to the second cup of black wine for the morning.
~Thinking~
Lita, Physician 19:51:25 pm CDT
Tal Kazar. Got any ideas for a topic? I couldn't find a good one this week.
Lita, Physician 19:52:11 pm CDT
Anybody have any questions or thoughts they'd like to bring up?
Dak 19:55:25 pm CDT
ok, I will open the Forum I have a topic, same rules, keep chit chat and greeting to whispers, for the benefit of the scribe,
topic
why doesn't Port Kar have a home stone
ruby~{Randolph} 19:55:37 pm CDT
hums "heard it through the grapevine"
is the training yard..off limits to slaves?
Bretval, Merchant 19:59:12 pm CDT
Probably was considered too ordinary... not to mention pirates and cutpurses haveing a Homestone would be too much like patriotism
Keeper of flicka 19:59:30 pm CDT
I remember reading that part of the reason is it was built by slaves.
There is a reference to it.
Keeper of flicka 20:01:17 pm CDT
'ere 'tis
gorean-shores.com/gorhome/about.html
Gorean Shores exists in the period of time after the uprising of the Ubars in Port Kar, as described in Book 6, but prior to the great sea battle of 25 Se'Kara and the discovery of the Homestone of Port Kar by Tarl Cabot. Thus, there is no Homestone in Gorean Shores.
Bretval, Merchant 20:01:39 pm CDT
True, Keeper... except for the ships
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:01:48 pm CDT
Keeper ~~` maybe ~~ seems grins pirates dont have a home~` we travel cutthroats and all ~
Dak 20:02:27 pm CDT
mostly it is becuz of the time period they decided to depict it from, before there was a Homestone, *smiles*
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:02:29 pm CDT
Training Yard
1. Free Women are permitted to enter the training yard.
2. slaves need not beg entry to the yard
snowrose has at times gone in and raked the sand, swept the seating...
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:02:49 pm CDT
Wow!! ~flicka's eyes glaze over in utter amazement and respect for her Jarl's extra-ordinary research and retrieval abilities. Swelling with pride at being owned by Him~
Lita, Physician 20:02:51 pm CDT
I don't recall a reason. Even Ubar Luther doesn't say why. This is all He says:
Also prior to 10120 C.A., Port Kar did not possess a Home Stone. This may have served in part to give Port Kar some of its infamy because of the importance most Goreans place upon the Home Stone. How could they respect a city without a Home Stone? But in Se'Kara of that year, during the problems of the Ubars' treachery, Port Kar acquired a Home Stone. As the naval forces of Cos and Tyros neared Port Kar, many of the residents of Port Kar fled, worried that they would be killed or captured by the superior forces of Cos and Tyros. To unite the remaining people of Port Kar, Tarl Cabot decided to give the city a Home Stone, a rallying symbol. At this time, Tarl was known as Bosk of Port Kar and he had become a Captain of Port Kar. He sent a slave out into the streets of Port Kar to find a rock. The slave returned with a common gray rock, just larger than a fist. Tarl carved the initials of Port Kar, in block script, into this stone. It was then brought to the Council of Captains where it was eagerly accepted by the people of Port Kar as their Home Stone. The remanning men then did unite, proud that they now possessed a Home Stone. Without this Home Stone, Port Kar would most likely have been conquered by Cos and Tyros.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:03:37 pm CDT
aye Dak,, Captains long before me decided that Gorean Shores would depict a tavern in Port Kar in the time before Port Kar had a Homestone
Keeper of flicka 20:03:39 pm CDT
~Grinning at flicka and dusting down My scholarly robes.~
ruby~{Randolph} 20:05:28 pm CDT
thank you, mistress snowrose, for your clarification
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:06:12 pm CDT
Ah but Port Kar subsequently did have a homestone? Now that is interesting, so not only are we playacting in a place we are playacting in a time.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:07:21 pm CDT
~low evil little chuckle~ ruby, flicka has gone into the Training Yards and run around scuffing her feet and messing up all of mistress snowrose's careful sweeping.
Keeper of flicka 20:07:52 pm CDT
Of course filcka, time is the fourth dimension!
Bretval, Merchant 20:08:01 pm CDT
Exactly correct, flicks..,. in a sense frozen in time...
maddie~anne{GS} 20:08:47 pm CDT
~listens quietly~
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:08:48 pm CDT
~turns a baleful eye to flicka~ she knows all flicka, and bides her time
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:09:22 pm CDT
Jarl Keeper and Master Bretval, now that concept messes big time with flicka's tiny brain.
Dak 20:10:22 pm CDT
if that's all hat needs to be said on that topic, I have another one , *smiles*
Keeper of flicka 20:13:06 pm CDT
I shall discuss Einsteinian Physics another time flicka.
Leave the sand alone flicka.
Or else.
Would you like to find out what 'or else is flicka?
Dak 20:13:08 pm CDT
ok, next topic , What was you first 'Gorean' experience?
Was it a good one?
Did you find Gor or did Gor find you?
Keeper of flicka 20:13:37 pm CDT
~Evil grin~
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:14:36 pm CDT
smiles sweet galah found me in the Gorean Inn in poolside
Bretval, Merchant 20:16:20 pm CDT
Gor found Me ... via a slavegirl
Lita, Physician 20:18:19 pm CDT
As part of a Home I went to years and years ago, there were a couple of Gor rooms. I visited, and was hooked.
Dak 20:18:59 pm CDT
when I came to poolside chat many years ago, Gorean Shores was a room there, *smiles*, and everyone told Me to stay away, it was a tough place to go to , well, I never let anything keep Me away from anything, so I went, and was mesmerized by the slave serves and positions , so beautiful, sexy and sensual, so I hung round and lerned Gor , by watching others , *smile*
Keeper of flicka 20:19:00 pm CDT
What was you first 'Gorean' experience?
A certain slave, who shall remain nameless,
~pointing to flicka~
mentioned she was 'Gorean', not wishing to appear ignorant I quickly did some research.
I was... stimulated...by the idea.
The rest is History. Here I am.
maddie~anne{GS} 20:19:20 pm CDT
~offers quietly~
she followed a bond into a Northern Lodge...
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:19:28 pm CDT
flicka had been chatting to a Dom (she knowing very very little about power exchange) and He warned her to steer clear of the weirdo Goreans. Well that was like a red rag to a bull for flicka, and here she be, Gorean to her cute little vivid scarlet painted toenails.
Was her first experience good? it was terrifying, the Ubar of the Homestone was about 15 feet tall with horns and enormous tusky teeth, in flicka's mind's eye.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:19:55 pm CDT
her first experience was coming in to GS in the middle of a dance by fidget. snowrose was absolutely mesmeized that someone could evoke the whole scene, the ambiance and body movements with so few words.
Dak 20:19:58 pm CDT
basically, it was the slaves there that taught Me most of Gor, *smiles*
shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:20:43 pm CDT
BDSM stories found this girl. then from there went to chat sites.. found HTLM and from there was directed to Gor and wow what a ride it has been!
it has been good ... sad and hard but well worth it with the people girl has met and am now around when she is able to be here.
girls first Gor experience was someone came to the chat site and saw girl doing some sceneing with one of the dumb Doms started whispering to me about gor... so that night girl snuck into one of the rooms and watched... met Master Srtyker and was totally hooked
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:21:56 pm CDT
Hmm interesting Jarl Keeper, Master Sandman and Master Bretval, all introduced to Gor by a slave.
chocolate{GS-O} 20:22:34 pm CDT
*enters quietly and makes an effort to remember what she read in the manual so as to know what should she do next* *shakes head and since cannot remember anything offers her most deep apology and most sincere greetings* good evening everyOone!
Keeper of flicka 20:23:05 pm CDT
Like Bretval, Gor found Me through a slave.
Slaves make good Gorean saleswomen.
My first time in Gor was interesting.
"A very steep learning curve."
To quote flicka,
There is no school for Masters, nor to W/we pop out of our mother's womb demanding paga!
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:24:09 pm CDT
chocolate may comment or ask questions on the current topic. chocolate...or she may just observe, if she wishes
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:25:15 pm CDT
slave brought me from the dm to Gor
ruby~{Randolph} 20:25:20 pm CDT
listens intenly
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:25:50 pm CDT
smiling I had been involved with D/s at another site that shut down and came back to poolside,, went into the Gorean inn on a slow night and met galah who enticed me to GS
chocolate{GS-O} 20:26:40 pm CDT
thank you very much mistress snowrose, kind and sweet as usual! *warm smile*
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:26:51 pm CDT
Jarl an interesting dichotomy, A Master is always right and ergo has no need to "learn" and yet in a Gorean milieu a Master can be wrong, in the sense of not "obeying" the protocols. Flicka thinks that that is what makes a Gorean chatroom so challenging, special and different to normal D/s chatrooms. There are parametres and guidelines.
Bretval, Merchant 20:27:07 pm CDT
I simply kept My tongue still and watched... to learn.. for My first month or so... and read the manuals, etc
maddie~anne{GS} 20:27:41 pm CDT
this one may have spent her first tine in a Lodge in Gor, but she seeked it out because a belly wasn't nearly as hot as should be in a D/s room
~offers softly~
Keeper of flicka 20:28:07 pm CDT
Again like Dak, a good Master does have to learn through slaves.
~Chuckling~
This is Forum, so I shall be very honset and open.
I do remember more than once asking flicka, "What is the correct reply to that?"
Dak 20:30:06 pm CDT
well GS does has rules for the Free, well suggestions, if you want to get along, but no one even bothered to direct Me to the GS info pages, which are older than Mathuesalla , needless to say, it didn't take long to piss of just about everyone, but the slaves !
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:30:48 pm CDT
~lowering her head and blushing~
aye my Jarl, but it takes a true Man secure in His dominance to be able to ask those questions. Men Who are insecure would bluster and blunder their way, never accepting that guidance can come from many quarters.
Keeper of flicka 20:31:31 pm CDT
flicka is right;
Gor is more challenging.
I like a challege
I choose the road less travelled.
Being ordinary even in the BDSM / Ds world can be boring.
Bretval, Merchant 20:31:51 pm CDT
Yes a dichotomy, flicka... Master need to learn but We have no classes offered
ruby~{Randolph} 20:32:56 pm CDT
it is girls understanding the was a mentorship for Masters, at one time
Keeper of flicka 20:33:31 pm CDT
Oh Dear Bretval
I cannot imagine running a class full of Masters.
They would all be right!
All of the time.
Dak 20:34:11 pm CDT
they used to assign experienced Master to mentor, I had one assigned to Me after I pledged, but He was not very helpful to Me, *smiles*, even tho He was a Captian !
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:34:42 pm CDT
~laughing softly at her Jarl's words~ Jarl flicka thinks that probably 99% of the world's population would NOT find BDsm or D/s "boring" but then You are not 99% of the world's population.
Master Bretval, there used to be mentoring for Masters as flicka recalls, but it seems like so much to have fallen by the way side. A pity.
Lita, Physician 20:35:22 pm CDT
Well, I still think the best way for anyone to learn is to read the books.
shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:35:30 pm CDT
/girl remembers Master Stryker coming up to her with her ~o~ collar on and said are you new to gor she nodded and asked if she could observe.. he said yes... then he whispered to me are you new to r/p she told him heck no but was only experienced in D/s bdsm.. he then talked to her more... about gor and encouraged her to read slave girl of gor and gave her a free copy on like girl stayed up all night reading it and went in the next day and told him she was fascinated by what she read and was on line gor like the books he said wanna try it... so girl took a camp collar and he showed girl Gor.
Keeper of flicka 20:36:18 pm CDT
~Chuckling~
I get bored easily.
I require lots of stimulation!
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:37:01 pm CDT
have heard that i the 3 years i have been here have never seen any mentoring
like Bretval one learned by reading and observing in the tavern ~`
we have slave training for new salves no mentoring for new free ~
Dak 20:37:51 pm CDT
I began reading them shortly after, had 20 of the books given to about that time,
Lita, Physician 20:39:02 pm CDT
That's great!
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:40:04 pm CDT
~frowning a little and rubbing her temples to stimulate her brain~
Is it perhaps that Masters have no need for classes as such, what we slaves learn in class is how to be pleasing, how to serve according to the rules of GS. What flicka does not learn so much in class is how to submit her will to her Jarl. We talk of the fire in our slave's belly but that fire comes from within, it is stirred by strong Masters, in class we learn how to express the fire, perhaps, but not how to ignite it. At least that is flicka's experience.
And so what would a Master class teach Masters? How to ask for paga in a correct way? flicka thinks not.
Masters could get together and discuss things. But flicka suspects it would be a little like her Jarl said, All the Masters would be right all of the time.
Bretval, Merchant 20:41:52 pm CDT
Short of Masters to even Mentor which is on the learning to be an Advisor and then a Captain
Keeper of flicka 20:42:18 pm CDT
That is true flicka.
I already know how to please you!
~Evil Grin~
And the correct reply to that comment is?
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:43:42 pm CDT
~chuckling~
Yes My Jarl.
Keeper of flicka 20:44:09 pm CDT
I do think You become a better, stronger Master with experience, and that, by its very nature cannot be taught.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:44:21 pm CDT
Aye flicka those are the things that only a man can teach a girl...In class we try to learn how to interest a man enough so that He wants to teach her something
Bretval, Merchant 20:46:02 pm CDT
Things need to change.. to avoid slow death
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:46:31 pm CDT
exactly mistress snowrose, we learn how to express the fire. And hopefully some Master with enormous bellows will be interested enough to wooosh the fire into an inferno.
~eyes involuntarily drift upward to meet, briefly, the warm brown eyes of her Beloved Jarl~
Dak 20:47:40 pm CDT
I was the second chair Captain, that told Me to find a girl and train Her Myself, and I would have the best slave, so I did, and He was right, in the process of training the slave I became a better Master, and she still wears My kolar after 12 years, just doesn't have time, to be here and I have always trained by the GS manual!
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:47:45 pm CDT
Bretval aye been a slow death lately good too see forum coming back
maddie~anne{GS} 20:49:32 pm CDT
~hearing His words, she offers softly~
this one must say, she was doing chores in the Tavern recently when one that this one gathered was a new Gorean Master...although He did behave appropriately, she was asked what was served...her belly told her He was new and perhaps this one could have offered where He may seek guidance from another Free without being worried that His publice posts about payment for His beverage were not misconstrued....
maddie~anne{GS} 20:51:15 pm CDT
~wonders if she made any sense~
Keeper of flicka 20:51:39 pm CDT
flicka and snowrose are both correct.
I have always thought that in life,
some things can be learnt from books,
some things can be taught,
and some things can only be learnt though living life, by experience.
Gor is a reflection of life in that sense.
Dak 20:51:56 pm CDT
the Tavern menu has all that is served and the prices of payment , *smiles*
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:55:50 pm CDT
maddie-anne, flicka understood you, if a Master is new to Gorean Shores, this slave assists Him with minor things like the price of paga, what is on the menu etc, but subtly incorporating it into her words to Him.
For example, one could say after serving the paga. "flicka parts her warm sensuous lips awaiting the touch of cold a copper coin upon them~
If the Master wants conversation a slave can refer Him to the web pages, but carefully, as it is not a slave's place to direct a Master.
Bretval, Merchant 20:55:56 pm CDT
It is a good sign that We are talking about these things... We just need some actions to follow the talk...
Dak 20:55:57 pm CDT
is any one interested in continuing this discussion later !
maddie~anne{GS} 20:56:01 pm CDT
Aye, Master Dak, this one directed Him to that, but He was...hesitant to appear wrong in the room and, as this one is mearly slave, she felt He may have been...guided to ...a place that slave can not understnad, but allows direction from fellow Free to a possible new sword...and causing Him to not be mindful of the...preception of His words in the public room...~speaking with deepest respect~
Bretval, Merchant 21:00:35 pm CDT
I would talk and consider, Dak
Dak 21:01:27 pm CDT
it is difficult for a new slave to handle a new Master, I'm sure, but slaves usually work thru suggestion, in those cases, *smiles*
maddie~anne{GS} 21:02:06 pm CDT
~nods her head~ Aye, Master Dak, thank You for Your guidance ~soft smile~
Bretval, Merchant 21:02:31 pm CDT
That was a good analysis, Keeper
Dak 21:03:05 pm CDT
unfortunately the Pledged Free have no say, so, all we can do is wait for the Captains, to do their thing !
Keeper of flicka 21:03:59 pm CDT
~Nodding to Bretval~
Thank You
Dak 21:04:16 pm CDT
reading the Gor books are very helpful in learning about Gor, *smiles*
ruby~{Randolph} 21:05:34 pm CDT
its just nice for this girl to be Home, once again ~s~
Bretval, Merchant 21:05:43 pm CDT
Yes, I have noticed that, Dak... and We go around and around
Dak 21:06:20 pm CDT
aye, *smiles*
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:08:10 pm CDT
Master Bretval a little like the Mock Turtles Quadrille in Alice In Wonderland.
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:08:18 pm CDT
Bretval grins only answer one gets is being taken under the advisement of the captains
Dak 21:11:02 pm CDT
I will close the Forum and thank all for coming and participating, it was interesting, *smiles*,
thanks flicka for scribing !
Keeper of flicka 21:11:43 pm CDT
Thank you Dak for leading
Thank You flicka for scribing and not spilling too much ink!
Bretval, Merchant 21:12:18 pm CDT
I will take your word on that, flicka *g* it has been a long time since Alice and she was not one of My faves
ruby~{Randolph} 21:12:20 pm CDT
Master Dak
thank You leading Forum
pretty flicka
thank you for scribing
chocolate{GS-O} 21:12:49 pm CDT
thank Yyou Aall for allowing this one be here tonight
and thank you flicka for all your help :)
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:12:59 pm CDT
Thank You for leading Master Dak
and thanks to flicka for scribing
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:13:33 pm CDT
Thank You Master Dak for leading Master Bretval, ah but His nonsense poetry was in a league of its own.
maddie~anne{GS} 21:14:02 pm CDT
~sings out gently~
this one offes her thanks for leading, Master Dak...
and her thanks, pretty flicka, for scribing...
she offers her hopes that All be well this night...
Bretval, Merchant 21:14:04 pm CDT
Thanks for leading Dak
Thank you for scribing flicka