present:
Sandman
Thorrn
Tanthios
Bretval
Hunter
Dak
Keeper
Kazar
Lita
snowrose
shimmer
maddie~anne
taika .. (Hunters new chain ..not collared as yet)
aura
flicka
ruby~
Dak 19:47:12 pm CDT
who is scribing this night ?
Dak 19:50:22 pm CDT
ok, we have a scribe, and a topic , I will open he forum, *smiles*, keep chit chat and greetings to whisers for th benefit of the scribe,
first topic ;
What brings you the person to Gor?
What, if anything, have you learned about yourself because of Gor?
Why do you stay here in Gor?
Last question for the week.... If Gor was a real world would you desire to be there?
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 19:51:53 pm CDT
~Listens to the topic~
Hunter {aura}-taika- 19:53:01 pm CDT
seems basically the same questions as last week to Me
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 19:53:57 pm CDT
If Gor would be a real world, would you liie to be there.
That is a great question. Have to ponder about that before answering.
shimmer{GS}~t~ 19:55:24 pm CDT
she remembers her first night well she was in a bdsm chat room and someone came in and asked is there anyone here want to learn about Gor.. shimmy whispered to him what is Gor don't you mean GORE? and why would someone be interested in that we like whips and such but not mutilation... he laughed and told me about some guy that wrote about a planet where they teach girls the power of ultimate slavery.. it intrigued shimmy and well that is all she wrote i had to learn more.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 19:57:13 pm CDT
It would depend on her circumstances..if she were her Master's slave, lived in Gorean Shores, she might, depending on how r/t goes but to live in a below ground pen, unused and unloved, no, she would not
shimmer{GS}~t~ 19:57:26 pm CDT
shimmy has learned so much about herself in real shimmy has to be dominant and in charge.. or her world is chaos... but here she can be who she wants to be in her heart... and makes her feel Freer than she has ever been
maddie~anne{GS} 19:58:24 pm CDT
~peeks up and smiles to shimmer, she murmurs~ aye, this one was also from a D/s room and was invited to a northern lodge and she went, not quite willing to offer her soul, as a Free Woman and remained so for awhile, but sooner, rather than later, girl's fire burned the robes and now here she sits, having trying to deny the nagging of her belly, back again seeking just that, her belly...
flicka-slave of Keeper 19:58:37 pm CDT
If Gor were a real world, then no, flicka would not wish to be there. Flicka would be lucky to last more than a few ehn on Gor the way it is portrayed in the books.
But not only that, as a woman the life on Gor is very proscribed, ~winking at Mistress Lita~ the choices seem to be, be a frigid free woman or be totally at the mercy of everyone. Apart that is for a few panther girls and the occasional she-urt.
shimmer{GS}~t~ 19:58:57 pm CDT
because i desire to be at the feet of strong Masters and Mistress serving them with all of my heart.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 19:59:49 pm CDT
those are the same questions reframed that have been asked often
maddie~anne{GS} 20:00:33 pm CDT
aye, this slut thinks, although her neck is not certain to be allowed from day to day, she would rather work hard to be pleasing then...Master the crews she must in r/t...~smiles sheepishly with agreement to shimmering shimmy~
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:00:41 pm CDT
~snuggles in close to her Jarl, splattering
Him a little with bright purple ink~
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:00:56 pm CDT
this one was very young and unsure of herself, shy...she has gained confidence in herself as a person...is still shy among new people, but thinks she is better at stifling it now...and for that she thanks her Master, and all the wonderful people here...she has learned to take criticism, and carry on...learn from it
shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:02:21 pm CDT
if it was real yes shimmy would she would love it if it was real... it brings out emotions in here that she has never felt in real life... she has cried more r/t in gor than in real life.. some are happy tears some are sad tears.. some are hurt tears.. some are scared tears but she knows everything she decides to leave gor and turn her back and run it pulls her right back
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:02:29 pm CDT
flicka, snow would join your tribe of panther girls if that was our lot she can totally see you in that role
Hunter {aura}-taika- 20:02:56 pm CDT
with respect to the questions which are indeed interesting I sent a much more urgent topic ....I do hope its presented
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:03:19 pm CDT
smiles at My girl who like to be a pleasure slave and not a mere pot and kettle slave or something like that. Wanna get something in return for being a slave, i understand that.
Lita, Physician 20:03:36 pm CDT
I hope so too, Hunter.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:03:39 pm CDT
~laughs softly~ Ask Jarl Keeper, mistress snow flicka can be a panther in the furs.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:04:51 pm CDT
she has no doubt flicka
Keeper of flicka 20:04:54 pm CDT
It is like the question "What period of history would you like to live in?" The reality is very, very different from the imaginings.
The answer is probably not, besides there is not enough information contained in the books to make a really informed decision.
It is like watching the News of another country, you don't
get all the facts, just another persons version of what happens.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:05:02 pm CDT
Jarl Thorrn, flicka thinks You have nailed it, on real Gor we would not have the choice of what we wish to be, and flicka suspects there would be far more pot and kettle slaves than there would be pleasure slaves.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:06:28 pm CDT
Ever the grasshopper mind, flicka is piqued with curiosity to know what is Master Hunter's topic.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:07:42 pm CDT
~turns her attention to Master Hunter
Tanthio§ 20:08:06 pm CDT
*enters forum and finds an empty fur in the back*
aura{Hunter} 20:09:27 pm CDT
giggles same here flicka and if a girl was on Masters lap she would peek into Masters ear to see the topic....
maddie~anne{GS} 20:08:56 pm CDT
~eyes flicker up to the door with a warmth reflected in them as they offer greetings to Master Bretval and Master Tanthios before lowering again as she listens for the next topic with interest~
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:10:22 pm CDT
~chuckling at aura's comment~ You reckon you would see into His mind that way?
Hunter {aura}-taika- 20:11:31 pm CDT
Oh I am an open book....Grins
aura{Hunter} 20:11:36 pm CDT
flick a girl can only try *S*
aura{Hunter} 20:12:10 pm CDT
joins sissy and wraps arms around Masters legs...
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:12:22 pm CDT
Keeper
I think the problem is the same like that about the historic period to live in.
Is it a lasting on decision to live there or is it just a visit for a terminated time.
Visiitng another time or world is surely exciting but living there for the end of one´s time will surely cause some toruble for most people. We would always compare from what is now and what is in our time.
That is what i think.
Dak 20:13:27 pm CDT
that is basically the reason this is called roleplay
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:13:45 pm CDT
~nods at her Master's words..comparisons for sure. Probably would be a grass is greener kind of thing
Keeper of flicka 20:14:32 pm CDT
A very good point Thorrn
I think a short vacation on Gor would be very, ahhh, interesting, but to live out one's days?
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:16:47 pm CDT
Like my Jarl says, it is like Your favourite period of History, and as Jarl Thorrn says could be fun to visit.
Online roleplay of Gor is like visiting a period of History, Jarl Keeper and flicka are real time, but we most certainly do not live 100% as it would be on Gor. Um you get put in jail for that, our society does not approve of Masters wandering around collaring any available female and using Their sword to win an argument.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 20:18:16 pm CDT
Well I dont intend to usurp the forum leader by posting a question out of turn...I respect the rules and protocol and work towards unity not against it...even if it may not always appear to be the case
as for what Gor has done for Me...I answered that last week ....as to if Gor were real...it isnt! so its a ridiculous concept to bother with unless we have nothing truly relevant to the site and its intent to speak of
Keeper of flicka 20:19:07 pm CDT
Indeed flicka.
My sword Headsplitter verses a Police .45 Magnum.
Magnum wins everytime, so I'd better control My Gorean urges.
~Chuckling.~
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:19:10 pm CDT
chuckles at flicka as i imagine the Masters runniung around with swords and collaring females in a wolrd where you hardly hold the door for a woman without getting angries looks from her *L*
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:19:22 pm CDT
flicka agrees with You Master Hunter, it is a moot point.
Keeper of flicka 20:21:03 pm CDT
We all agree, in slightly different ways, a reasonably ridiculous notion.
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:22:09 pm CDT
That is good habit like Hunter says, the forum leader posts the topics and not the forum members.
Forum members do the discussion.*S*
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:22:14 pm CDT
~flicka waits with baited breath for Master Hunter's topic~
Bretval, Merchant 20:22:15 pm CDT
Given all the things we do to each other now I would rather be dead that live in such a world
Keeper of flicka 20:22:28 pm CDT
~Sitting back, I await Hunter's new topic with some antici........
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:23:36 pm CDT
~laughing cause she knows she is going to usurp her Jarl's little joke~ .........pation.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 20:24:24 pm CDT
Agreed Bretval
Lita, Physician 20:24:35 pm CDT
Are ya gonna do the Time Warp now, Jarl Keeper? *snicker*
Keeper of flicka 20:24:50 pm CDT
Oh dear flicka, after all these years, you know Me too well.
Bretval, Merchant 20:24:56 pm CDT
A dirty look is easier to deal with than a beheading
aura{Hunter} 20:25:23 pm CDT
gulps at the talk of beheading
Lita, Physician 20:25:28 pm CDT
Easier to clean up after, anyway, Bretval
Keeper of flicka 20:25:35 pm CDT
Not since the late 20th Century Lita!
Lita, Physician 20:26:42 pm CDT
But Jarl Keeppr! I'd LOVE to see how much like Tim Curry
you'd look in a red dress and high heels!
Keeper of flicka 20:28:47 pm CDT
Well I do wear a kilt with My clan's tartan one special occasions, would that suffice Lita?
~Grinning~
Oh dear this conversation is degenerating.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 20:29:34 pm CDT
yes the whole forum is out of 'kilter"...we might say...LOL
shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:29:40 pm CDT
wonders if the urts got Master Dak and if we should send out a search party
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:30:35 pm CDT
There came a topic up about how to treat newbies to GS in a way that they feel more welcome in here.
At leats that is how i understood a longer sentence about remarks to newbies.
So here is My version of that topic:
What can be done to feel newcomers more comfortable in GS and return to GS?
Keeper of flicka 20:30:48 pm CDT
~Groans at Hunters appalling pun~
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:32:48 pm CDT
A modification of that topic is.
What should be avoided to tell newbies so they don´t run away again without becoming a member.
shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:33:09 pm CDT
well shimmy has to say she almost turned her tail and run for the hills when she first came here but she luckily did not.. am worried about pilar and cyebele shimmy has not seen them in almost 2 hands and have not gotten lessons from them shimmy is worried to death about them.
ruby~{Randolph} 20:33:24 pm CDT
chuckles to Jarl Thorrns revision
Bretval, Merchant 20:33:41 pm CDT
Offer to buy a Male a drink... then comment to Him about the service
aura{Hunter} 20:34:58 pm CDT
is there a reason for a modification of the post?
Lita, Physician 20:36:41 pm CDT
perhaps, aura, to remind us that there are sins of omission as well as sins of commission?
Hunter {aura}-taika- 20:36:54 pm CDT
might the topic be posted as written?
Keeper of flicka 20:37:13 pm CDT
There is a time and a place for everything.
If a person is new and still finding their way around W/we should exercise a bit of tolerance. I am NOT suggesting that an "O" collar can do as they please, merely that they should be point in the right direction when an error is made. New people should also be give ALL the facts about O/our sight, not just one person's version.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:37:30 pm CDT
Jarl Thorrn and shimmer, Gor is not for just any one, in fact it is not for most people, all we can do is make people welcome to our home, if they be a Free Person, then it is beholden to us slaves to help Them in Their journey toward Gor in anyway we can, whilst still remaining true to ourselves as Gorean slaves in the knowledge that we are never to attempt to "lead" Them.
If it be a new slave then we should embrace them with open arms, help them in any way we can, try to not intimidate them with our knowledge and ~smiling gently~ their ignorance of our ways. But always remember that once we too were new to Gor.
ruby~{Randolph} 20:37:42 pm CDT
Master Hunter
since this Your proferred topic..girl is most interested to hear Your opinion
maddie~anne{GS} 20:38:23 pm CDT
maddie thinks that the lessons not only train a girl, but perhaps, also, weed out those who are not so sure they should be here...this one thinks that sometimes a mere 2 weeks is a very short time to decide to commit to something that will last much longer...it is such pressure at the begining to know that a mere 14 days is all a new girl, at least (not speaking of Free as They have all the time They need) to make a commitment...also...white silks are hard to obey when a girl is new to Gor and feeling a little out of place and then is faced with clear visions of slaves more practiced than her offering, completing and recieving the attention of the trained
serves...that alone can be more challenging to a girl's desire to return and continue, than almost anything else...~finishes with a whisper~
Keeper of flicka 20:38:46 pm CDT
Oh dear flicka
~looking sideways~
Great minds do think alike!
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:39:30 pm CDT
cybele had said she would busy for a while, not be in. shimmer could write, just a note to be sure all is well
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:39:52 pm CDT
~frowning a little at Master Hunter's comment~
Master aye, flicka would wish to see Your topic as You wrote it, especially if You feel that the topic has been somehow compromised in the rephrasing.
taika 20:40:21 pm CDT
my apologies..... my views may be unwelcome but in being the "newbie" in the room for the evening i must admit i find the modification to be a little bit unsettling , you can't avoid telling people the truth of how things are to gain their trust and allow them to join only to hit with the not so great parts... that sets up an immediate environment for mistrust .... in my personal opinion ... it shouldn't be what not to tell them so as not to scare them off , be open and honest about what to expect or chances
Lita, Physician 20:40:42 pm CDT
Alas, My time is up for the evening. Still have unpacking to do and so on.
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:42:09 pm CDT
Hunter, see the whiseprs about the topics.
Anythin i omitted resp left out - post it as a part of the discussion. You are encouraged to say yor opinion.
Keeper of flicka 20:42:29 pm CDT
The idea of being able to say "re-new" an "O" collar so it can last for 4 weeks instead of two has some merit. I think it should be 2 + 2 not just 4 weeks.
It is true, there are times when a slave makes the wrong choice vis-a-vie GS V Private collar without sufficient information
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:43:39 pm CDT
then too, so many slaves are shopping, visiting several places at once, eager to grab a collar without even knowing the Master, and even taking more than one, before deciding. they will do as they please, no matter what
Keeper of flicka 20:43:56 pm CDT
~Nodding to flicka.~
Words have power, the convey emotion and true meaning, the original is normally better.
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:44:52 pm CDT
taika
Not to tell them want´emant in the way to hide facts or habits or put up a fake.
It is meant what would be impolite, discouraging and making them feel uncomfortable and give a wrong impression about this place.
Or to say it shorte r- how to behave better even when you are a Master and free in your behavior.
Bretval, Merchant 20:47:32 pm CDT
Why the 2+2 instead of 4 weeks Keeper? The slaves can ask for a collar at any time
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:48:44 pm CDT
Ah that is so Master Bretval, at any time during the 2 weeks of an O collar a girl may beg a GS collar, so to extend it to 4 weeks would not affect an early begging.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:48:54 pm CDT
sometimes it can be 2 very slow weeks and the girl really gets no idea of how much fun it can be...so allowing her to renew it and spend 4 weeks can be a good idea
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:50:00 pm CDT
no it wouldn't affect early begging, but it would give the girl more time to get to know more of us..
aura{Hunter} 20:51:14 pm CDT
bites her lip tight to stop words from coming out..
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:51:25 pm CDT
ane the Free can get to know her better, see if she is sincere or a dilatante
Keeper of flicka 20:51:32 pm CDT
Bretval. The idea is to give slaves enough time to understand their decision, because once it is made it is almost impossible to change.
Girls rush into a GS collar and seem unable to become privately owned, or become privately owned without full understanding of what means in this place. A bit more time for more information to be gained. It may be the case that they are ready in two week, but everyone is different, some require longer
Hunter {aura}-taika- 20:51:54 pm CDT
This was the topic I had wished discussed...just for those that wished to see....
Does the way new girls are treated at certain times and the things they are told including being made to feel totally useless no matter what efforts they give to meet a standard they couldn’t possibly know exists so quickly play a part in them choosing not to keep returning?
Is it good for GS to have new people told that the training provided currently is substandard?
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:51:56 pm CDT
I think another amendment is neede to that topic.
Is there some behaviour of people who deal with GS-newbies which make them run away again?
Can and should such behaviour be improved and can it be avoided that Our place gets sometimes made down by members of this place?
Bretval, Merchant 20:52:27 pm CDT
Why not just make 4 weeks and take more care making them understand they can ask for a reg collar earlier if they wish
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:52:36 pm CDT
maybe in the second 2 weeks she could try the lessons, so she can make an informed decision
ruby~{Randolph} 20:52:55 pm CDT
what you say is true mistress, although many look at many homes before a making ...-purchase-..
velcro collars are just apart ..of on-linism...always has been..always will be
maddie~anne{GS} 20:53:18 pm CDT
~softly offers~ this one doesn't mean to make it about slaves, but it seems the topic is more directed that way as the Free may visit as many times as They wish without timeframe constraints...with that being said, this one came and...
disobeyed immediately by rejecting an ~O~ collar, but she did so knowing what she was doing becuase of previous experience in the Gor realm...if this was a stumbled upon place, she would have to have been very brave after reading the missives posted at the entrance and if she did dare to brave the Tavern, then there are certain expectations placed upon her in regards to her bare neck...either way, it is not an easy way to be slave and, knowing this one had previous experience, she begged a Tavern collar, but if she did not have that previous experience, she would have been scared as hell and even moreso knowing she had a mere 14 days to make a decision...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:54:03 pm CDT
no Master Hunter, it most certainly is not good. And it's not good for visiting Free to be told that the slaves here are substandard
shimmer{GS}~t~ 20:55:08 pm CDT
shimmy is not going to dance around a subject.. from her own experience when a girl is doing her best and is new to the home shimmy would hope that someone would praise her for what she does right instead of criticizing her mistakes yes this is Gor and yes it is harsh... but whe you have been trained in other places some of them have been trained differently than here give them time to learn before you criticize their actions... there is nothing worse than doing your best to try and please just to have a Free say you did not do good enough... because you spread your thighs before you straightened your back and pressed out your breasts... as long as a new person finds a way to kneel we should be happy.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 20:55:18 pm CDT
Aye snowrose...but that is what happens at times
Keeper of flicka 20:57:35 pm CDT
Taking My Jarl hat off and placing My Teacher hat on.
Negativity in teaching will only get you so far, it is limited, counter-productive and out-of date. The sign above My desk:
The mediocre teacher tells.
The good teacher explains.
The superior teacher demonstrates.
The great teacher inspires.
William Arthur Ward
Slipping My Jarl hat back on again.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:58:06 pm CDT
snowrose feels that the positions are bare bones as written...she thinks that as long as all the parts are followed, it doesn't have to be in the exact order...we can be creative...same with serves...it's monotonous to have every slave move like a robot, making the exact motions
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 20:59:19 pm CDT
Gor is another world, it is more than ONE world in the ways of it´s habits and customs. Inonline-gor and in the books. So it is a bit silly to expect that all slaves are educated and trained in the exact same way as one MAster wants them to be.
One Master can train HIS slaves a sHe wishes them. Other MAsterr´s slaves are different.
Bretval, Merchant 20:59:43 pm CDT
And some who cannot keep a slave should not be criticizing Our training methods
Keeper of flicka 21:00:02 pm CDT
To bring out the best in any person when preforming any tasks is to guide them so they want to do it.
shimmer{GS}~t~ 21:00:14 pm CDT
shimmy thinks a 4 week collar with being able to give the slave the lesson after the first week would be a wonderful idea.
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:00:26 pm CDT
BRetval ouch ~
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:01:25 pm CDT
Keeper yep constructive criticism~`nit too berate them make them runaway
aura{Hunter} 21:02:17 pm CDT
shimmer all girls kneel different or we would all be bots *S*
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:02:35 pm CDT
nods to shimmy, very true
Such details a realyl just minor flaw and not every Master will even notice such or wants to deal with such minor things of a slave.
It is not realyl good to make a big fuss about such and chase slaves away for feeling stupidf and bad for such criticsms
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:02:39 pm CDT
this girl thinks we forget just how intimidating Gor can be for a new girl, we, by our natures are submissive, we wish to belong and at times that can lead us into rushing into a collar, whether that be a GS or a personal collar. If a girl is having second thoughts or regrets she may feel that the only option for her is to run away. And that is a sadness not just for the girl but for our home.
~breathing deeply and clutching her Jarl's boot~
flicka and her Jarl are of one mind in many many things, and one of them is the believe that a girl who is a trained monkey, an automaton, is about as exciting as well, watching a bosk chew its cud. To this end flicka will ~laughing with shimmer~ never worry about the order of her back straightening nor her breast thrusting. Jarl Keeper always tells this girl that formulaic writing is the death of all creativity and the most boring thing He can think of.
shimmer{GS}~t~ 21:02:55 pm CDT
smiles that is shimmies way of thinking also aura but not all feel that way
aura{Hunter} 21:02:57 pm CDT
aye Master Bretval ....nods
Bretval, Merchant 21:03:15 pm CDT
Vive la difference
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:03:51 pm CDT
Bretval
I think thta is a good point in this.
Always running away slaves should make a MAster think about His ways of treating slaves.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 21:04:42 pm CDT
why not let the o collar be less hasty....they can find their feet just as well without feeling imprisoned on arrival...this is a chatsite not a fictitious planet....why not get to know the person a bit rather than demand they are instantly gorified...treat them like people first and they will wish to become immersed in the 'fetish of Gorean roleplay
Bretval, Merchant 21:05:33 pm CDT
Hear, Hear, Keeper and flicka
taika 21:05:34 pm CDT
be well all , thank you for having me
maddie~anne{GS} 21:06:05 pm CDT
~ponders all that is said, more questions raised in her mind, she listens with silence~
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:06:30 pm CDT
This is a capture site...the {O} gives the girl protection...to observe and learn in safety...but extending the time is a good idea, she thinks
Keeper of flicka 21:09:08 pm CDT
Vive la difference; bien dit Bretval.
That is what makes U/us A/all what W/we are, and this place interesting.
Bretval, Merchant 21:09:22 pm CDT
Tried that Hunter as I agree with you... but almost all the time they are collared on the second visit
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:09:44 pm CDT
Keeper
Nice teacher jacket You got, it has wise words in it´s pocket *S*
Even in Gor is convincing and teachin by inspiring the more succesful way than just being harsh and rude.
This is NOT real Gor, so it is different form those ways of Gor. We can NOT chain slaves to the posts in here and keep them in when they don´t want to stay in here.
*shrugs*
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:10:13 pm CDT
Master Hunter ~chuckling~ You have flicka's vote on that what what it is worth in Gor.
ruby~{Randolph} 21:10:13 pm CDT
there is little doubt..slaves will run, if their fears of failure are not abated
Hunter {aura}-taika- 21:10:29 pm CDT
what use is an o collar if they run off anyway?....so...its the Free that have to act different...not the newbies...sometimes I think its expected that miss gor 2014 will walk in and be perfect from first post..and all else isnt up to scratch...well it aint gonna happen....it takes years to really get it...even if someone has dabbled already
Bretval, Merchant 21:11:34 pm CDT
and few make a third visit
Keeper of flicka 21:11:48 pm CDT
Thorrn perhaps You could formulate a proposal to Council to have the "0" collar extended to 2 + 2 or 4 weeks, with perhaps the offer of some training in the second two weeks. Also, that no Master pledged to Gorean Shores will collar a girl into His personal collar within that 4 week period.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:12:30 pm CDT
the o collar doesn't imprison her she is free to wander the entire internet, other sites ...just can't wear the o collar any other place...it gives her safety here
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:12:37 pm CDT
Jarl Thorrn mistress snowrose has been in Your collar for how long? 6 years? flicka has been in her Jarl's collar for more then 12 years, aura has been in Master Hunter's collar for (a girl's maths might be wonky here), um., 7 years. A girl thinks that these figures speak volumes about Mastery.
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:13:46 pm CDT
~looks at her Jarl eyes shining in admiration of His word skills~
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:13:49 pm CDT
chuckles about miss gor 2014
Great idea for a festival to elect a miss gor Hunter *L*
May be Master should work on themselves and Their habits and atitudes too to improve as Master? I mean, just a proposal because Free can´t be ordered.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 21:13:58 pm CDT
Aye Bretval...collared then gone...like lemmings at a cliff
Bretval, Merchant 21:14:45 pm CDT
Snow... yes it is a capture site... that does not mean you MUST capture
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:15:34 pm CDT
5 years she is in My collar now flicka ... and still counting for mroe
Smiels at My little pet
Dak 21:15:40 pm CDT
I've sat here and listened to all this, sometime you shouldsit in on how I train slaves, I'm very caring and nice to them, I carefully explain what I want, some pick it up sooner than others, but that is seldom, at present My 2 newest slaves , both have other obligations, that keep them away, I correct, I never berate or belittle them , and am very patient, the 2 things I expect from My slaves is perfection and beauty, and I help them achieve that , very few thing I ever tell them or expect of them are not in the GS manual , and have hadsome great laves, whether you believe so or not, when I came to GS13 years ago, all slaves were trained to do things a certain way, the description they added was the way they developed
shimmer{GS}~t~ 21:16:10 pm CDT
one thing a girl saw when she first came to gor was that she was not allowed to take a collar until she had been observing the home for two weeks no Free could collar a girl in the home at all during the two weeks.. after that she could take the homes collar or she could be collared by a Free that had caught her eye or she had caught his.
maddie~anne{GS} 21:16:17 pm CDT
~sifts with discomfort upon her heels as she listens~
Keeper of flicka 21:16:37 pm CDT
~Chuckling~
Well; flicka gets My vote but I may be a tad bias!
Hunter {aura}-taika- 21:17:23 pm CDT
yes snowrose thats true....but thats a hard concept to grasp when one only came in for a look see and leaves with demands stamped on her...the odd one will come back....most wont...you have to remember one thing...most are at least partly subbies...and most dont know how to say no....and they try to please
aura{Hunter} 21:17:23 pm CDT
but surely if the council could see a Masters actions where running off girls... was making it a place other Free didnt wish to be in ...or left because of ...
surely the council could order the Master to comply/behave
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:17:27 pm CDT
~low laughter~ sorry Jarl Thorrn as flicka said, her maths is wonky, failed 2+2 in primary school
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:18:05 pm CDT
Very true Hunter.
No use to prolongue the timespan of the o-colar when the girls run so esily awqay because they got scared off by a harsh, rude initiating.
Keeper, i rememeber faintly that this propsal about prolonging the o-collar time has been made already a few times and the council decided not to do so.
Dak 21:19:07 pm CDT
I also have a slave that has been in My kolar for the better part of 12 years, just becuz her own work keeps her away, does not mean she would not like to be herewith Me, and she does very beautiful serves and positions,
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:20:56 pm CDT
no, but if a girl wants to learn about the place, and be safe from being collared, the {O} serves that purpose...when this one's 2 weeks were up, she left for a while...she couldn't commit to a collar because she was going through what she is actually going through now..but she never was free of it in her mind...knew she would return
aura{Hunter} 21:23:24 pm CDT
aura come into the tavern the other day to see Master Dak tell this girls Master about the GS training is not right ....
she felt so sad because she has just spent time learning with girls....learning more than how to kneel like a barbie doll and fur.... gor is much more than furring
Bretval, Merchant 21:23:34 pm CDT
Perhaps the Council should reconsider since it seems to be a popular suggestion, Thorrn
aura{Hunter} 21:23:57 pm CDT
cuddles into Masters legs and feels the warmth of sissy burys her mouth there...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:24:05 pm CDT
it puts no demands on her...she doesn't even have to speak, may serve if she feels like it, but is not obliged to do anything...not attend class, nothing
maddie~anne{GS} 21:24:21 pm CDT
~offers with respect~ hence your personal experience, mistress snowrose...sometimes it takes a little longer for a girl to find her belly and she needs more encouragement in the open room...not all slaves automatically find that they are just that, slave...and some of them find they are more submissive then slave...let along throwing the strictness of Gor upon a new girl just learning...
Keeper of flicka 21:24:55 pm CDT
With respect Thorrn, times change so do situations and the 2 weeks with a 2 week extension when needed on an "O" collar is a different idea.
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:24:56 pm CDT
Dak
I´m in this place since 9 years now.
Time chnages things, places and habits. Not everything can nor should be kept up the same way.
I changed and this place chnaged too. It is in many ways doifferent from the time when i came in - but it just changed , it did not became bad because of that.
Same with the behaviour of the slaves, it chnaged because wehat is expected from that changed and so it is for a few to accept that and not make them down as it gets often complained.
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:25:01 pm CDT
thier is no one serve fits all `~ ~
aura knows one is waiting for the apology
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:26:21 pm CDT
aura to reiterate, flicka is not a trained monkey, and totally agrees with you, we learn much in slave class, we learn how to think beyond mere words. We learn this from our sisters, from their emotions and thoughts.
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:26:56 pm CDT
Aye the 4 weeks would give a girl more of the flavor of g/s `~ not being so rushed to taking a g.s collar then runaway
Hunter {aura}-taika- 21:27:20 pm CDT
Good for you Dak....so how about we come over to your holdings and pick those slaves to bits..tell them theyre trained wrong.....well they might run off
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:27:30 pm CDT
flicka want a banana grins ~`
Keeper of flicka 21:28:25 pm CDT
~Smiling~
That is the exact reason you are mine flicka, you are not a trained monkey, I get bored too easily for that!
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:28:04 pm CDT
grins at Keeper trying to beta Me with My own words about chanigng times
*l*
Dak 21:28:55 pm CDT
oh, you don't think it hasn't been done, *laughing* well, it has !!
shimmer{GS}~t~ 21:29:03 pm CDT
laughs hearing Master Hunter and nods vigorously
Keeper of flicka 21:29:19 pm CDT
~laughing~
I posted first Thorrn!
Like I said "Great minds think alike"
aura{Hunter} 21:29:26 pm CDT
most of them already have run off my Master *S*
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:29:37 pm CDT
but this is a tavern...there have to be paga slaves, girls owned by the Council...if more new girls stayed, then they would take that position and the older girls could be sold off...GS trains the girls for Their use...for a while..not to be sold off immediately...that doesn't make sense
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:31:11 pm CDT
Dak
To say it frank and directly
Why critisizing the beahviour of slaves which a Master doesn´t own in a way that say that everything this slaves and hert sisters got taught so far was wrong ?
If tthat is your opinion, it would be appropiate to speak with the Owners of the slaves who are repsonsible for the training, weather privately or gs-ownwed slaves.
It is no use and no good habit to make the slaves down and blamje them for such things. Espcially not when outisders or newbies are around.
Bretval, Merchant 21:32:58 pm CDT
Perhaps if the decision was made based on a time limit... that makes no sense either, snowrose
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:33:45 pm CDT
Master Dak, one of the things that drew flicka to Gor was the lyricism of the serve, the beauty that some girl's could create with mere words. But not all girls are as capable of creating such beauty and it is with sadness that flicka has watched girls striving to achieve that perfection, striving with a plethora of meaningless adjectives and adverbs gleaned from a Thesaurus.
It is wrong to castigate those girls, the depth of their need to serve is no less than the "beauties" who can enchant a Master with Their descriptions.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 21:34:05 pm CDT
your right snowrose ......but....thats what we are talking about....why they dont stay....all the rest wont matter until they do
Keeper of flicka 21:35:16 pm CDT
The two old adages Thorrn.
"Praise in public, criticise in private."
"To not air your dirty linen in public."
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:35:49 pm CDT
aura did that girl who left tell Master Tahdron and/or the fg about her reasons?
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:35:59 pm CDT
Hunter aye~` id one sees a slave making a poor serve not greetings properly one would need too paste it then show it too snow for correction ~
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:38:28 pm CDT
Nods to Keeper
I try to act along that line as long as possible.
It is for someone to agree to critics when not too many listen.
Nods again, to Hunter
So true, the important part is that people stay in, come back and like to be here and help to let this place grow.
That doesn´t mean to forget about rules and principles but it means to work on the welcome and stay in.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 21:38:58 pm CDT
maddie~anne wanted My dirty linen in the tavern earlier...I assume it was an odour...well I said many Free may not change attire for Pahns on end....but not I
Dak 21:39:28 pm CDT
well, many have left this place, that I never had any dealings with once the were in a kolar, mostly I just stay way, unless I have My own slave available, becuz of it ! I do try to come in when new girls come and talk them about becoming a slav explaining the O kolar, I used help GS slaves learn, but I have been completely locked out of that, so I just stay away mostly, My favorite thing in Gor is training slaves and watching them become beautiful and perfect, it is very gratifying !
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:40:04 pm CDT
~chuckling softly wondering if maddie-anne has discovered a new fetish~
Bretval, Merchant 21:40:07 pm CDT
Personally I correct the slave in a private message... as I believe t is the duty of the patron to help train the girls ... not just the fg or slavemaster
maddie~anne{GS} 21:41:31 pm CDT
~hearing her allowed name spoken and the words that follow, a blush grips her flesh harshly as she mumbles~ aye, Master Hunter, this girl didn't mean that You smelled bad...sortof...
Dak 21:41:59 pm CDT
just recently, I spent about 2 hours speaking with a GS slave trying to talk her out of leaving becuz she had had a bad experience, and she is still here, but no one cares about that, do they !!!!
Keeper of flicka 21:42:15 pm CDT
Hunter is right, the important thing is that the site grows.
What will make people stay?
(Getting back to My earlier statement about teaching.)
They will stay because they are motivated to stay.
What will motivate them?
The correct kind of stimuli.
The question for A/all is does this place offer the right kind of stimulus?
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:42:45 pm CDT
snowrose does too Master Bretval...and there is always something positive to praise at the same time...she is not perfect...no slave is perfect...that would mean she has nothing left to learn...is static
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:43:02 pm CDT
hears Bretval
Same way here. I usually correct flaws or simple not-knowing-yet of slaves , espcially newbies in whispers.
I don´t like to blame some or make a person nervous in public without a really good reason for this
maddie~anne{GS} 21:44:07 pm CDT
~hoping the offer to do laundry in NO WAY implies she was just trying to rid Him of His clothes, she nibbles a lip as she remains quiet and...all innocent looking~
Dak 21:44:23 pm CDT
another here is one I trained to serve, and I'm sure she could vouch for the fact that I don't mistreat slaves, but am very exacting !
Keeper of flicka 21:44:25 pm CDT
~Hearing Bretval and Thorrn.~ Oh, good I'm not the only one who does that all the time.
Bretval, Merchant 21:44:37 pm CDT
No, flicka, she was getting My clothes as I had ordered ... just added Hunter *smile*
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:44:56 pm CDT
Master Dak, You would not be alone in spending countless hours in talking people out of leaving, flicka, and she dare says most in this room have done the same. And not just with slaves, but with Masters also. We all have times when we despair, to have friends rally around is what our home is all about.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 21:45:37 pm CDT
well said Keeper....that is exactly why I brought the matter to a head
Keeper of flicka 21:46:13 pm CDT
The thought of Hunter's dirty linen.
No please, some of us may want to eat in the next few ahn!
Dak 21:46:24 pm CDT
and o this day, I've never been harsh when correcting a slave
shimmer{GS}~t~ 21:46:52 pm CDT
rolls over on her belly laughing thinking of the dirty laundry
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:47:19 pm CDT
In teaching it is called sandwiching, say something
positive, then the criticism, then end with something positive.
Keeper 21:47:20 pm CDT
What motivates ANYONE to stay in here?
Finding the kind of fun and pleasure one enjoys.
What is that - as different as the people being in.
It is part of thegame eeehh role play to find out about this.
That is what i think.
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:47:28 pm CDT
chuckles at maddie-ann and her dirty laundry
shimmer{GS}~t~ 21:47:32 pm CDT
shakes head and looks down
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:49:55 pm CDT
aye when was the last time we had a game night or any r/p ~
Hunter {aura}-taika- 21:50:26 pm CDT
correcting ...is that the be all and end all?
is it like a potter making a vase?...or is it about interelationships where the gor bit is just a fun way of expression
.....in the books living is what they do...living and loving actually....and that being cared for....feeling valued..is what will have people eager to be here as often as real life allows
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:50:42 pm CDT
Dak
I carefully listened to what You said and appreciate everyxthing You do for Oour home.
But still there is a certain complaint coming up from several people and coming up not just once for being to nehative in remarks about Oour home.
So why not going on with the helpful work and when having principle critcics talk about this to the owners of the slaves or here in the forum .
That would cool down a lot of emtions as i think.
Bretval, Merchant 21:52:03 pm CDT
I try to do something new all the time... but I don't enjoy playing with Myself, Kazar
------------------------------------------ okay then shimmer posts a c/p from a harsh remark by Dak ..re her position in the tavern one day
-------------------------------------------------------------------- shimmer{GS}~t~ 21:52:22 pm CDT
shimmer{GS} 22:35:45 pm CDT
hearing Master she rushes out of the kitchen long flowing yellow silks fluttering about her upper thighs as she dances over tot he slave furs... thighs parting widely as her small petals glisten in anxious anticipation... her back arching up straight and tall as long butter scotch locks swirl down her chest and rippling belly... chin tilting up as stormy greys lower to the tiles... Greetings Master Dak girl hopes you are well this moon...
Dak 22:37:49 pm CDT
seeing her assume position? *shaking My head* greetings
shimmer{GS} 22:38:43 pm CDT
seeing him shake his head her eyes lowering down what is wrong Master she softly inquires?
Dak 22:39:53 pm CDT
how can you possibly be a yellow silk beginning your position opening your thighs !
shimmer{GS} 22:40:32 pm CDT
little hands lightly crawl down her honey toned thighs then softly cross at the wrist upon honey toned knees...
shimmer{GS} 22:41:52 pm CDT
sorry Master girl begs forgiveness for her failing and begs punishment that she may learn from her mistakes
Dak 22:44:02 pm CDT
you have Masters that should be teaching you better, they don't allow Me to train, but that doesn't mean I have to like it ! read the manual !
shimmer{GS} 22:45:08 pm CDT
girl has read the Manuel Master she is sorry her position was not pleasing to You Master.
shimmer{GS} 22:48:38 pm CDT
may girl be of service to You Master?
Dak 22:49:54 pm CDT
this is the position of nadu very specific in the manual !
the first and most often used of all of the Gorean slave positions, and one of the first a slave learns. the command gets its name, nadu, from the Gorean word for kneel. in this position the slave kneels and sits upon her heels with her back and shoulders straight, her chest out, belly in, and her head up, though she averts her eyes to the floor, her thighs are open, widely spread, her hands rest upon her thighs. a slave in GS is never to simply say she is doing "nadu", she is to describe it every time, her palms up on her parted thighs is to show she is for full sexual usage, palms down is to show she is restricted from sexual use
shimmer{GS} 22:53:07 pm CDT
girl did everything but sit back on her heels... the position is a guide line girl thought Master she is sorry that she did not hit every check mark on the list. she will do better next time.
Dak 22:56:11 pm CDT
this I exactly why I seldom come in, I deplore slaves that don't abide by the manual , perfection and beauty is the most important quality in a slave other than that is insulting to a Master !
that was not harsh Master?
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Keeper of flicka 21:52:26 pm CDT
Indeed Thorrn, "the game" is the stimulation that W/we desire.
That is why I come here not in search of the perfect serve or position, but the perfect "game" that special interaction between Master and slave. Two like minds bouncing off each other until they create a new world that only exists in their minds.
I know it is not real, but it can be stimulating.
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:52:29 pm CDT
Master Hunter, oh flicka so agrees with You.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 21:53:15 pm CDT
LOL...advance to Port Kar collect 200 tarks
Kazar~infamous pirate 21:54:33 pm CDT
Bretval well i dont play away games ~``~lol ~
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:55:23 pm CDT
i think that c&p of shimmer tells pricsely why this topic came up tonight.
Dak 21:56:03 pm CDT
no shimmer it is honesty, I'm sorry I don't take time to be more flowery about , *smiles*
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:56:33 pm CDT
~ gentle smile of understanding to shimmer~
shimmer{GS}~t~ 21:57:09 pm CDT
that was done in the open in the tavern the day after shimmer got her yellow silks and was so excited about them
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 21:57:53 pm CDT
Keeper
Being game is the key of it.
One neds a harsh, rude, verey strict Master.
One with whips and a barking sound.
Other need a more softer and understanding one.
One MAster wants a trained doll , another Master wnats an eductaed yet self thinking, even cheeky girl as slave. It all depends.
Dak 21:58:17 pm CDT
no, I believe you had just gotten your red silks !
Keeper of flicka 21:52:26 pm CDT
Indeed Thorrn, "the game" is the stimulation that W/we desire.
That is why I come here not in search of the perfect serve or position, but the perfect "game" that special interaction between Master and slave. Two like minds bouncing off each other until they create a new world that only exists in their minds.
I know it is not real, but it can be stimulating.
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:58:21 pm CDT
OH OH my Jarl always, always You distill what we are about. My god this girl loves You dearly
aura{Hunter} 21:59:08 pm CDT
aura feels all girl should do a different entry and a different nadu... mistress snowrose is a good teacher ...she has taught aura to write about herself when entering to own the words
Keeper of flicka 21:59:26 pm CDT
~Running My English teacher eye over the c & p.~
~Wagging a finger.~
The sentences do not start with a capital letter.
But then again, you can criticise anything if you try hard enough.
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:00:35 pm CDT
interaction of Master and slave ... in the way both enjoy it.
Or one of them will leave the place or look for another partner for the interaction.
Very good description Keeepr, that interaction. It has to be satisfatcion for both.
flicka-slave of Keeper 22:01:31 pm CDT
And once more the wisdom of Masters prevails. Jarl Thorrn that is it also, different slaves for different Master's tastes. That is the only reason that the manual is important, so a slave may know the "correct" formula and adapt it to please whatever Master is within the Tavern. That is why the lessons of slave class are important, not to be mindlessly followed, but so that a girl can please ANY Master
shimmer{GS}~t~ 22:02:33 pm CDT
nope Master Dak look and see in the post Master shimmer had just gotten yellow silks in this post.. shimmer has about 4 other times you have done this to her personally.. but once she became a trainer you did put it into whispers.
Keeper of flicka 22:02:59 pm CDT
~Smiling at Thorrn~
I wonder what flicka is?
NOT a trained doll.
Educated yet self thinking, or cheeky girl.
A little bit of both at times Methinks, as Bretval said Viva la Difference.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 22:03:02 pm CDT
hmmmmmmmm
flicka-slave of Keeper 22:04:53 pm CDT
~flicka's tummy rumbles alarmingly
Keeper of flicka 22:07:03 pm CDT
Having said the piece about "Viva la Difference".
The reason Urth, Gor and Gorean Shores have rules is so that society can function when the actions of one person impinges on the function of that society as a whole, which neatly brings us full circle back to where W/we started from!
Hunter {aura}-taika- 22:08:20 pm CDT
yes girl...kisses your lips ...slaps your sweet round bottom..to kennel
Hunter {aura}-taika- 22:07:09 pm CDT
Does it matter Dak?....is arrogance and unkindess worth it towards an impossible aim...isnt the person behind the roleplay what counts most?
its like saying I will love you only when your tower is spelled right and every word in correct syntax...I will come to bed shortly dear...just have to check your serve against the manual...well most likely by the time you get to bed she is asleep
or in gorean terms ..run off to rt or another home
Kazar~infamous pirate 22:10:35 pm CDT
HUnter thinks one thinks he is helping doesnt see what one is saying ~`sees both sides of the coin ~`
thier s a way Dak to show one not make them feel foolish ``` one could say ~~~that was goodd but try it this way thinks its better ~~~nice way of saying itw as done wrong ~
maddie~anne{GS} 22:13:49 pm CDT
~sighs, knowing her words will be...not welcomed...but they are in defense of no one, only a mere slave's personal experience~
this girl, when in white silks, decided she could offer a serve as she brought a newbie in tow with her...she offers Master Dak service and she was soon...scorned much like shimmer, for an improper tower and referred to, rather harshly, to study the positions...with that being said, when this one displeased another Master so badly last week, she came into the room with the intent to leave and it was Master Dak who talked this girl into staying awhile longer and to not give up to hurt so easily...He was fair and kind to this girl, but she also now knows, clearly and from first hand experience that He is...expecting perfection when a mere human can never achieve so...with that being said, this girl feels this discussion is better suited to the among the Free than mixed with slaves with exeception to the slaves providing specific examples as shimmer did...~casts eyes down~
Tanthio§ 22:14:46 pm CDT
*Rising to My feet then quietly moving to the door* Winds to the Free! serve hot lil sluts. *closing the door*
Bretval, Merchant 22:15:39 pm CDT
Dak's way must be right, Kazar as He is the most knowledgable of the fictional place Gor... oh fictional in a chat site... with made up ules that don't follow the books... I see a few propblems with this
Dak 22:17:44 pm CDT
I also spent 3 weeks playing your little game of being frightened slave, was I not gentle and caring !
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:18:03 pm CDT
hears maddie-ann
Well, this is a lot about how slaves get treated in here and this is forum.
So the comments of the slaves are welcome and in parts even needed to get the facts straight.
The goal of this discussion is, like always, get a topic clear, if needed suggest consequences and above all learn from what gets said.
So things have to be on the table to get them worked out.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 22:19:28 pm CDT
well said maddie~anne
Bretval, Merchant 22:19:36 pm CDT
Well said, Thorrn
Keeper of flicka 22:21:24 pm CDT
I know I said no more quotes, but, I believe I am here so a slave can feel her slave belly, and I feel other delights. I expect a girl to strive to better herself. Believe Me I will spot an error very quickly, but if I got into the habit of correcting trifles, syntax and grammar it would spoil it for Me.
So one last quote before I go
"Aquilla non Captat Mascus"
"The Eagle does not capture flies."
With one more
Kazar~infamous pirate 22:21:31 pm CDT
Bretval aye ~``more than one way too skin a cat ~
flicka-slave of Keeper 22:23:01 pm CDT
~smiling at her
Jarl~ Aye You my Jarl have encapsulated it perfectly
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:23:09 pm CDT
chuckles at Keeper as keeper of the quotes
Another good one from Your collection.
I think for tonight things have been siad clearly and unmisunderstandable.
maddie~anne{GS} 22:23:14 pm CDT
~peers up to Master Dak with clear eyes that are not challenged~ Master Dak, this slave just stood up and declared Your help when it is most likely now welcome...You response, although truthful, is exactly the reason this discussion is happening...perhaps some peering to Your own actions could be reflected instead of attacking a girl who clearly came to some defense of You while being allowed to do so in an open forum...~looks to Jarl Thorrn and nods her head with understanding as she offers~ Aye, Jarl, this one understands Your reasoning...
Hunter {aura}-taika- 22:24:50 pm CDT
that was rather cruel to call maddie~anne a game player here in a place of games
Hunter {aura}-taika- 22:25:14 pm CDT
especially when she had just given kindness
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:25:46 pm CDT
My short sumary is
Keep the home in honor and don´t blame it when there are discret ways to deal with problems and faults.
flicka-slave of Keeper 22:25:58 pm CDT
~smiling at Jarl Thorrn's portmanteau word, tucking unmisunderstandable, away in her special flicka box.~
Keeper of flicka 22:26:06 pm CDT
Unfortunately flicka and I need go RT.
That leaves this gathering two choices.
Either another scribe will need to take over for the last bit or this forum needs to end.
What is the forum's wish?
flicka-slave of Keeper 22:27:53 pm CDT
Master Hunter thank You for raising a topic that has been festering for a while. Never does flicka like things to be pushed under carpets, nasties live under there.
Keeper of flicka 22:28:30 pm CDT
~tweaking flicka's nipple.~
Well Thorrn I think We know what kind of slave flicka is!
Hunter {aura}-taika- 22:28:50 pm CDT
My own summary would be...and it can apply to any dont take yourself so fucking serious...cos it makes you look ridiculous
Amen
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:29:19 pm CDT
smh in notunderstanding
Dak, did You even notice that Your remark about the game playin slave prooved everything right what has been said in this topic tonight?
The Topic was - stop making other peopel down so harsh and easily.
So - STOP IT from now on.
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:30:51 pm CDT
We know Keeepr *wink*
I declare the forum of tonight closed.
Evyrthing got said now it is time to act properly
Dak 22:31:11 pm CDT
well, see it how you will all I know is GS s the only Gr site to even have a manual, and I've always felt some people went to a lot of trouble writing it, and has always seem to me a prescription for a well run site, instead just having it any ole way you please, it's lie when a Dr gives you a prescription, do you follow it, or do ya just take it any ole way you feel like ??
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 22:32:45 pm CDT
rising,, it is 11:30 local time and I have ridden my tharlarion more than 500 pasangs,, I wish all here well
ruby~{Randolph} 22:34:47 pm CDT
wishes A/all well
thank You Master Dak and Master Hunter for the topics
thank you flicka for scribing
Bretval, Merchant 22:34:50 pm CDT
For fucks sake Dak this is a game ... role playing ... not the way to run the army
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:37:25 pm CDT
there are no Doctors with prescription in here Dak
Only Physicians in gor
Though, that special youth conserving serum is a big succes of the gorean physicians *l*
Hunter {aura}-taika- 22:37:46 pm CDT
I would say...the manual was never intended as a finished product....rollo was a wise man and left everything with room for expansion...so there is no finite thing to aspire to...only ideals and a guidemap to help
Dak 22:38:57 pm CDT
well, it was a lot Different when Rollo was running it, *shrugs*
Dak 22:39:01 pm CDT
Has left the room
shimmer{GS}~t~ 22:39:30 pm CDT
sorry that Master has no respect for anyone but himself.
Hunter {aura}-taika- 22:39:49 pm CDT
it was a lot different when Dak was declared dead I bet also
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 22:40:36 pm CDT
declared dead?
Jarl Thorrn - Captain 22:40:54 pm CDT
Rollo was a great and wise Captain indeed.