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Dak 19:30:57 pm CST

I am well, thanks, snowrose , *smiles* 

 

Lita, Physician 19:31:31 pm CST

Tal and greetings 

 

Dak 19:31:53 pm CST

Tal Lita 

 

Jasmina 19:31:56 pm CST

Tal,Lita. Lovely to see you

 

Lita, Physician 19:33:16 pm CST

good to see You as well, Jasmina 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:33:21 pm CST

Tal to the Free

and greetings to the slaves 

 

Lita, Physician 19:33:31 pm CST

Tal Jarl 

 

Dak 19:33:46 pm CST

Tal Thorn, *smiles* 

 

Jasmina 19:33:53 pm CST

Tal, Jarl Thorrn! How are you faring tonight?

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:35:34 pm CST

~hears a tread she know so well, a radiant smile turned His way~

 

Greetings my Master...girl is so happy to see You 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:35:56 pm CST

Tal Dak, good to see you

 

Tal Lady Lita

always a pleasure

~s~

 

Tal Jasmina

My pleasure to see You again

 

winks at My girl and points to My feet 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:36:16 pm CST

Greetings Mistress Lita...~warm smile~ 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:37:01 pm CST

I´m doing well and fine, Lady Jasmina

How was Your weekend? 

 

Jasmina 19:38:48 pm CST

My weekend has been well. Thank you. I enjoyed a lovely rendition of Hamlet last evening. Most entertaining.

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:39:42 pm CST

~moves to kneel as her Master commands~ 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:41:27 pm CST

*strokes My girls neck and caresses her like the little pet she is for her Master*

 

Hamlet, that sounds great Lady Jasmina

been ages that i attended a performance of that one 

 

Jasmina 19:42:44 pm CST

I saw the version with David Tennant as Hamlet..a marvelous performance!

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:44:38 pm CST

I hope You will not mind whrn i never heard the name of that actor, Lady Jasmina

But Europe is a bit far away from the theatre scene in overseas, i´m afraid 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 19:44:52 pm CST

a twinkle of delight in emerald eyes

~smiles softly

greetings Jarl Thorrn ~girl is happy to see You!

greeings Master Dak ~ girl hopes You are well

greetings Mistress Lita ~love the colors and the avi!

greetings Mistress Jasmina -its nice to meet You and welcome to GS

 

Dak 19:45:43 pm CST

*smiles*, that's ok, Thorn, I live here, and I've never heard of Him either, *smiles* 

 

Jasmina 19:46:06 pm CST

He is the gentleman who portrayed the 10th version of The Doctor in the show Dr. Who.

 

Dak 19:46:23 pm CST

I am well, nice to see you aurora 

 

Jasmina 19:46:37 pm CST

Greetings, aurora. It is lovely to see you as well.

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:47:18 pm CST

Thanks, Dak

so i will not feel too bad being ignorant

 

greetings lovely aurora

it makes Me happy to see you, girl

*smile* 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:47:40 pm CST

He's from Scotland...he's Dr Who on tv 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:48:05 pm CST

greetings aurora ~warm smile~ 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:48:18 pm CST

Lady Jasmina

What is the show Dr. Who????? 

 

Jasmina 19:48:45 pm CST

~smiles~ Very good, girl.. you know your actors!

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 19:49:02 pm CST

snowrose ~ greetings pretty girl

 

Jasmina 19:49:26 pm CST

It is a British sci-fi series ...started originally way back in 1963...went on for some years..went off the air..and was rebooted in 2005. It is very, very good.

 

Jasmina 19:50:50 pm CST

It's about a man..a Time Lord who travels through space and time..and has many adventures. Very well written, very popular..even here in America.

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:50:58 pm CST

pats My girl

I knew why i collared just you

*plays softly with her blond manes*

your Master likes clever and literate slaves

*kisses her lips as welcome* 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:51:21 pm CST

really? girl had no idea there were other Dr Whos 

 

Dak 19:52:04 pm CST

must be like Back to the Future 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:52:46 pm CST

Thanks Lady Jasmina

though much TV stuff from USA and UK is here too i´m afraid i never of that special serie, but the plot sounds quite good to Me 

 

Jasmina 19:52:52 pm CST

Oh yes snowrose. Mr. Tennant is the 10th Doctor. There were 9 more before him..and we are currently on the 11th Doctor, played by Matt Smith. But please I do not wish to detract from the forum tonight.

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 19:53:04 pm CST

smiling softly at His words to snowrose

 

and listens to Mistress

 

Jasmina 19:53:14 pm CST

no Dak, not at all! VERY different.

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:53:39 pm CST

whispers to My little one

your Master thinks you are too young to have known other actors in that role

*chuckles lightly*

 

Jasmina 19:54:51 pm CST

I do not remember the previous doctors personally..But I have seen some episodes.

 

Jasmina 20:02:11 pm CST

But I fear I am straying away from the purpose of this forum..so..on that end..I will cease talking on this matter for now.

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:03:44 pm CST

perks My ears up if there is a forum topic to discuss 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:10:14 pm CST

wonders if everybody fell asleep 

 

Lita, Physician 20:11:09 pm CST

I may have one, if no one else does. 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 20:11:10 pm CST

whispers...almost Jarl ~lol

has been a long day, a long week

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:11:20 pm CST

This one has a topic but will post it to her Master first for His approval 

 

Lita, Physician 20:12:09 pm CST

This was posted on another board elsewhere, but I thought it might be interesting to discuss, and see what the opinions of Those here on the subject are: 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 20:12:22 pm CST

sounds wonderful Mistress Lita!

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:13:03 pm CST

approves the topic of My beloved slave girl

post your topic - after the Lady Lita posted hers 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:14:11 pm CST

listens for the question of the Lady in Green 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:14:14 pm CST

yes Master Thank You 

 

Lita, Physician 20:14:54 pm CST

So, within the larger umbrella of "Gorean", there are people who have chosen to dig a little deeper and who identify as being "affiliated with" (or "of") a particular sub-set of Gorean culture, as outlined in the books.

 

This could be "Jim of Ar" or "Mary of Treve" or "Harry of Schendi," and so on. For some of us, the cultural nuances matter, and this is important to our way of interpreting the Gorean philosophies in our real lives. [editted to add...-} Especially in this role-play venue the nuances matter a great deal!

 

Now, for the most part, the "generic" Gorean honourifics used by slaves are "Master" for a male free person, and "Mistress" for a female free person.

 

Dr. Lange outlined some regional differences which are not as simple as "If you're in The Barrens, slaves call free men 'Itancanka', and in Torvaldsland, they use 'Jarl' instead," but I'm going to simplify this to focus on that "dialect" issue specifically. (cliff's notes version: Jarl is also used as a title when free people are speaking of specific other higher ranking folks in their own community in Torvaldsland, such as "High Jarl", somewhat like "Lord" or "Earl" (chieftain), which is what the word means in its language of origin, fwiw) ..... 

 

Lita, Physician 20:15:29 pm CST

Obviously, there was not just one "Gorean" language, first of all, and it stands to reason dialects would have come into being after centuries of people living in semi-isolated communities with a lot of "local cohesion" unmuddied by mass media, etc.

 

I have seen it said that the origin of the FREE PERSON should dictate what term slaves use when speaking to the free person. So, if "Dina the slave from Ar" is speaking to "Hrolf the Free Man of The Forkbeard's Holding in Torvaldsland", she would call him "Jarl" to indicate that she recognizes he's from Torvaldsland. Similarly, if "Pudding the bondmaid from Hrolf's Farm" is speaking to "Marcus the Man from Ar". she should call him "Master", showing that she recognizes he's from a region where that's the acceptable appellation.

 

I believe this is completely backwards. The terms originate in their respective locations and are indicative of either a dialect or a completely separate language (more commonly). So, a woman who grew up in a particular culture, or who has spent enough time in that culture, either as an immigrant or, more likely, a slave of the native people of that region, would naturally use the word she’s most familiar with. We see this in Marauders, when the bondmaids in Forkbeard’s hall call Tarl “Jarl” although Tarl is undisputably known to be not of Torvaldsland. Similarly, the “silk girl” from the south refers to him as “Master,” not because she sees him as “Of the same region as herself”, but because that’s the term she is accustomed to use. We see this again in Savages, when the girls of the Plains use the term “Itancanka” to refer to the men, rather than “Master.” This is no different, in principle, than the woman from Wisconsin referring to a “pop,” the woman from Texas referring to a “coke” and the woman from South Carolina referring to a “soda” while they’re all looking at the same glass of a non-alcoholic carbonated beverage. It’s got diddly squat to do with which bottling plant that drink originated at!..... 

 

Lita, Physician 20:15:52 pm CST

On the tongue of a slave, the words Jarl, Master, Itancanka and the others MEAN the same thing. They mean “Free Male Whom I Must Show Respect To On Threat of Punishment.” Period.

 

I recognize that online people want to create a persona which most closely fits their image of themselves, either their r/t self-image or that of the person they want to play while “roleplaying” online (and I do not use roleplay as a perjorative term). Demanding that girls who would have NO REASON to have ever heard the word you’re insisting on using use it anyway, is missing the forest for the trees, IMO. 

 

Lita, Physician 20:16:18 pm CST

rather long topic, but I thought it was interesting to contemplate. 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:17:20 pm CST

starts to read ... may be back to forum discussion in a quarter of an ahn *L* 

 

Lita, Physician 20:19:29 pm CST

sorry for the length.*chuckle* 

 

Jasmina 20:20:40 pm CST

A very interesting topic Lita. And i agree, a girl would use a term more familiar to her. I don;t see the difference if a slave calls a man "Master" or "Jarl", the intent is showing respect of the girl, as a slave, to a free man.

 

Dak 20:22:44 pm CST

I believe that comes under the heading , when in Rome, do as the Romans do ! 

 

Lita, Physician 20:23:55 pm CST

My thought too is that most slaves would not have traveled all that much, travel on Gor being long and difficult, so they probably , with rare exceptions, wouldn't even be familiar with honorifics used outside their home territory. There would be exceptions, of course, but they would be rare. Even barbarians brought from earth might not travel outside the area where they were sold to. 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:23:58 pm CST

This one lives in a land where Free Men are called Master, so she calls Them Master unless the man would specifically tell her to call Him something else...

 

her Master has allows her to call Him Master because to her it is not a title, but a defining name...He owns her body, heart and soul, has mastered her completely... 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:24:10 pm CST

My own personal habit in such shown at your example of the soft drinks

 

when i´m at home in North germany in order a beer shandy as Alsterwasser (Alster ist a river which flows through My home town), when i order it in Munich or else in Bavaria i ask for a Radler (Bycycler´s drink) when i order it over the border in Switzerland i ask for a Panache (a mixed one)

That is to assure that the waiter/waitress understands what i wish to have

 

I think it is similar with most terms from different languages - use the one the addressee will understand or it may be useless

and sometimes you use the familiar term at someone to show politeness and respect

that may be when the slaves address foreign Masters in their known language 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 20:24:24 pm CST

its been the practice for slaves in GS to communicate with the Free

by the name they prefer to use whether it be Jarl or Master

 

the Jarls that have come from the North...prefer to be called Jarl....

 

Lita, Physician 20:24:25 pm CST

That too, Dak 

 

Jasmina 20:24:58 pm CST

Well, if that were true Dak, then explain the reference Lita made to the silk slave in Torvaldsland using "Master"instead of "Jarl", or the other instances? The girls were never chided for such things.

 

Lita, Physician 20:27:02 pm CST

aurora, this is Port Kar, which brings up something else. I think that Port Kar, being a port, draws more travelers from other places than your average City or village, so it is possible the slaves in Port Kar might be more familiar with "foreign" cultures than the average slave. 

 

Jasmina 20:28:19 pm CST

Good point Lita. That had not occurred to me.

 

Dak 20:29:12 pm CST

from what I read she was speaking to one used to being called Master, as both words mean similarly the same thing, had she not known where He was from she probably would have called Him Jarl, which either way, probably would not have offened Him in that land, both are showing respect, to the Free ! 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:29:31 pm CST

I think the girl was not childed because the Master/Jarl appreciated both terms or didn´t care

 

There is another aspect about using different terms

for some it doesn´t matter as long a the girl shows the respect/proper behaviour to a Free

to others it is important to use a special title which makes a difference to the "normal" one, like Jarl to Master

and some like to use the more exotic variation just because it sounds more interesting and exciting and shows that are familiar with the foreign customs 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 20:29:39 pm CST

aye Mistress...very true

Jarls coming from the north will often tell girls

to not call them Masters...for they are not a slave's Master 

 

Jasmina 20:31:28 pm CST

But Dak..in the book..the girl did not know Tarl was not from the North...I believe he may have even pointed this fact out to her when he spoke to her. The slave used the term "Master" to all men passing by because that was the term she was used to saying.

 

Lita, Physician 20:32:27 pm CST

*grins* Actually, I ran across the "soda vs. pop" issue. My middle daughter emigrated from the Midwest where she was born ton the East Coast after she married. She called me long distance one day, wanting to know whether "soda" or "pop" was correct as her co-workers in the east called it different than she did. I told her I couldn't help her there, as I was from Texs and we always called it "coke" *LOL* 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 20:33:31 pm CST

lol

 

amina{Tiberias} 20:33:57 pm CST

*giggles*

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:34:10 pm CST

wonders what to order in Texas when wanting a soft drink which is not a coke *l* 

 

Dak 20:34:43 pm CST

well, under the circumatances, I would have imagined, Tarl to be dressed some what differently than other torvaldslanders, so maybe it was instinct on her part, to do so to impress Him ! 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:34:51 pm CST

You call orange soda coke. or just colas? 

 

Jasmina 20:34:57 pm CST

I have the same issue, Lita. My partner is from North Carolina originally..and she always calls it "soda" and finds it strange that I refer to ALL such drinks as "cokes". Friends would come over and I'd ask if they wanted a coke..if they said yes I'd follow up with "what kind?" Confused my partner for weeks! ~chuckles~

 

Jasmina 20:35:47 pm CST

I do, snowrose.

 

Lita, Physician 20:36:32 pm CST

snowrose, we used "coke" as a generic term. When we went out after school in high school with a boyfriend, it was referred to as a "Coke Date" which tells you how incredibly ancient I am! 

 

Jasmina 20:36:45 pm CST

As I said, Dak..I believ in that part of the story the slave was calling ALL men who passed by "Master", not just Tarl.

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:37:03 pm CST

what kind of coke?

I´d wonder if you would have Coca Cola, Pepsi Cola and may be even more brands of coke

*l* 

 

amina{Tiberias} 20:37:06 pm CST

amina's family calls it sodapop lol

 

Jasmina 20:38:16 pm CST

Even those are still considered "coke" Thorrn. A conversation would usual go:

"Would you like a coke?"

"Yes"

"What kind?"

"Pepsi" or "Dr. Pepper" or "Sprite"..or any other variant.

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:38:57 pm CST

awwww, did You drink from one glass with two straws like in the movies....that is so cute 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 20:39:20 pm CST

Demanding that girls who would have NO REASON to have ever heard the word you’re insisting on using use it anyway, is missing the forest for the trees, IMO.

 

aye...insinuates that a girl would not know what Jarl or Tarl meant

and would call the Free Master

 

when Jarl Thorrn first came to GS aurora believes He used the name Lord Thorrn...~grins

a girl would address Him as Master Lord Thorrn

because that is how she knew to address Him

 

twinkling eyes cast a smile His way

 

Lita, Physician 20:39:42 pm CST

tHEN OF COURSE THERE WAS "rc cOLA" *lol* tHT FOR SOME REASON RATED ITS OWN NAME. aN rc AND A mOON pIE! *lol* 

 

Dak 20:39:57 pm CST

I kinda thought that Master was a univeral term, and the others like Jarl were more like a local genre 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:40:00 pm CST

i´d ask for Canada Dry *g*

Hard to get here anymore, seems to be outdated 

 

marieve{GS} 20:40:52 pm CST

~chuckling at aurora~ a girl called her owner Master Orginal Sandman *L* 

 

Lita, Physician 20:41:27 pm CST

No, snow, we did not. If the boy couldn't buy a girl a nickle coke for herself, he was considered cheap! 

 

Lita, Physician 20:42:19 pm CST

More or less, Dak. 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:43:04 pm CST

~laughs~ still kind of that way here Mistress... 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:43:12 pm CST

aurora

Lord Thorrn is My name from DM in Poolside and it is still My login name cause Webby never answered to several emails and so i never got Him to change a few of My icon slots to the login name Jarl Thorrn 

 

Dak 20:44:52 pm CST

I really can't see how the different way to order a carbonated beverage, compares to the diffferent ways to address the Free, *smiles* 

 

Jasmina 20:45:52 pm CST

That is quite possible Dak. Although I have thought that perhaps it is merely the local way of saying 'Master'? For example saying "Maître" or "Herr" or "Don" or "Adonni" are all the same ways of saying "Master" in different languages.

 

Lita, Physician 20:46:23 pm CST

Dak, it is merely an example of cultural and dialectic differences. Coke or Soda or Pop, Jarl or Master or Itancanka, they are all different terms for the same thing. 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 20:46:31 pm CST

a comparison to show the likeness of words

is all it is

 

Jasmina 20:47:03 pm CST

Because Dak, it shows how different regions or areas use a different word to mean the same thing. one person may say "pop" or "coke"...just like a southern girl will say "Master" while a bondmaid will say "Jarl". Different words, same meaning.

 

Dak 20:47:07 pm CST

your login in name is the same as what is on Your membership, you would have to split your membership, if ya wanted to have 2 different names 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:47:25 pm CST

Dak

those compare cause it made the Lady think about this topic, using different terms for the same "thing" in different cultures/locations 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:48:57 pm CST

splitting the memberships that is what i intented to do, Dak

But Webby never answered to emails i sent Him to his different accounts (checked if they were still update) and so i gave that idea up 

 

Dak 20:49:06 pm CST

I guess I'm to simple to understand the reason for the question, I just accept the way of the books! 

 

Lita, Physician 20:51:17 pm CST

The point is, Dak, while You and I tend to go by the ways of the books, other sites differ in their practices, and since they visit here, we need to be able to understand the differences. And, of course, in this case, the books themselves differed. Each culture had a different term. 

 

Jasmina 20:51:30 pm CST

Pardon me for a moment, I will be afk.

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:53:49 pm CST

girl agrees with Master Dak on when in Rome...that goes for slaves who say they are not permitted to follow the rules of the site by their r/t Master who will never come to GS 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:54:03 pm CST

and it is a kind of interesting and fun to talk about such different habits of the books 

 

Dak 20:54:22 pm CST

well, I still believe when in Rome, Do as the Romans, which from what I could see in the Books, that is what was done 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:55:46 pm CST

very right, My snowrose

there is a simple solution to that

if someone doesn´t want or isn´t allowed to follow the rules of a site then someone can not stay 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:57:05 pm CST

Dak

that is the general way it is done in the books but as with most things in life there are exceptions 

 

Jasmina 20:57:40 pm CST

Well, if we were strictly "by the books" the slaves would not speak in 3rd person all the time either. I have nothing against it personally, I am merely citing an example.

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:59:06 pm CST

Dak

i generally act according your statement of when in Rome do as the Romans do

but i know a lot of people and nations think - shit on the Romans, they shall do as i do because i´m the boss

not mentioning any example for that now *chuckles* 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 20:59:10 pm CST

but that itself is also very controversial Mistress Jasmina

because in several instances it is shown that slaves did speak 3rd person and was more common than not...in the quotes that aurora has read anyhow

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:00:06 pm CST

yes Mistress...but that is the way of GS...there has to be some differences online...to distinguish slaves from Free...and that is the accepted way...slaves had capped names in the books, but think of the confusion that would cause 

 

Dak 21:00:51 pm CST

Myself, if I went to a different site, I would expect thay may have rules that differ from what I am use to, and it would be My responsiblity, to learn the norm for the site irregardless of what rules I was use to, to Me it's like going to a foreign country, they could careless of the rules in your country ! 

 

Jasmina 21:01:39 pm CST

Of course, that is a hotly debated idea as well..some say slaves spoke in 3rd person all the time..and Norman only used 1st person for slaves for ease of writing..but I don;t think they spoke 3rd person all the time.

my favorite example is as follows:

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:01:54 pm CST

nods to Dak

that is what i think is polite and respectful 

 

Lita, Physician 21:03:21 pm CST

aurora, they were required to speak in 3rd person under certain specific circumstances. For example when they were new to slavery, when they were being punished, when they were being reminded of their place, when for the moment it pleased their Owner to hear them speak that way, etc. But normally, they spoke in first person like everyone else. vella spoke in first person, jason spoke in first person, almost any of the main slave characters in the books spoke mostly in first person. 

 

Jasmina 21:03:40 pm CST

"May I be taught to dance?"

"Who is 'I'?"

"Alyena, your slave, Master."

"Beg as a slave"

"Alyena, your slave, begs to be taught to dance"

 

If 

 

slaves always spoke in 3rd person, why would he tell her that?

 

Lita, Physician 21:04:59 pm CST

I agree, Jarl Thorrn, though if I visit a site that varies too much from the books, I cease visiting there. 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:05:31 pm CST

Jasmina

 

Alyena may have been reminded this that she is slave and get more used to accept that idea 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 21:05:32 pm CST

not debating

not going to look for quotes

its the only language slaves of GS know and use 

 

Jasmina 21:05:39 pm CST

As do I Lita. I have no problem and even understand that some onlineisms are necessary, but some places go too overboard in them.

 

Lita, Physician 21:06:36 pm CST

aurora, We all know that is the rule here, and We all accept that. But that does not prohibit us from discussing it does it? 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 21:07:11 pm CST

lol...over the years its been discussed to death

and then some 

 

Lita, Physician 21:07:21 pm CST

Perhaps we should go on to discuss snow's topic. 

 

Jasmina 21:07:25 pm CST

Perhaps Thorrn. But that is neither here nor there. I do not mind personally if a slave uses first or third person speech. If I have a slave, she will use first person with me. I will expect her to follow the rules of this place, but with me, I will not enforce it, unless like Lita said, there were circumstances.

 

Jasmina 21:08:03 pm CST

Yes I would be interested in hearing snow's question as well.

 

Lita, Physician 21:09:10 pm CST

aurora, perhaps it has been disscussed "to death" That still does not prevent it being discussed again if the Free choose to do so, does it? 

 

Dak 21:09:15 pm CST

do the fact the books varied on this, and seemed to have no set rule I've always assumed 3rd person for slaves was an onlinism for this site, to separate Free from slave, , and to further impress their slavery on the slave, since technically they can not in reality be punished ! 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:09:58 pm CST

i agree Lady Lita

no prohibited to discuss it and it is again interesting to summarize the ways how it is done in the books

but as it is the rule in GS to use 3rd speech for slaves it doesn´t make a lot of sense to discuss it referring to the slaves here, as i think 

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 21:09:58 pm CST

absolutely not Mistress Lita

and all aurora said is that

she is not going to debate it

 

please feel free...its not a slaves place to say whether or not a subject can be debated or not 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:10:21 pm CST

this should not engender a long discussion, but might be helpful in future weeks.

 

Do others think that a pledged Free man should be able lead the forum if no Captain is present at the opening time? If no FM, then a Free Woman...It's just a matter of keeping the conversation on topic..It could be turned over to a Captain should one appear 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:11:14 pm CST

Dak

a real pity they can not technically put in the discipline (which doesn´t necessarily have to be punishment) it would e a lot of joy to be able to do so

*smiles at My girl* 

 

Jasmina 21:12:02 pm CST

I don't see the harm in that at all snowrose. It is a forum discussion, and not a matter of making a law or some such. But pure discussion or debating and talking.

 

Lita, Physician 21:12:11 pm CST

That sounds a perfectly reasonable procedure to Me. 

 

Dak 21:13:14 pm CST

I think it's fine , unles the Captains object, *smiles* 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:14:03 pm CST

looks at the clock and suggests

maybe Wwe discussed that third speech long enough now

i don´t see much more new aspect of that coming up

 

May be the question of My snowrose about the leading of the forum is of some interest too

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:15:10 pm CST

~smiles to her Master, a wink that only He can see 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:16:29 pm CST

pinches the cute ass so that no one else will see

*g*

 

returns to the forum topic 

 

amina{Tiberias} 21:17:29 pm CST

as a new slave the 2nd thing Master taught amina is that she was to speak in 3rd person it taught her that she no longer has control over her speech that she no longer was free but property. this helps amina get into a slavey mind set. where as if amina was still allowed to refer to herself as I me mine then it implys that she still owns something.

 

Lita, Physician 21:19:09 pm CST

amina, that was on of the reasons it was done in the books for new slaves. *S* 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:20:03 pm CST

that is indeed the educations point in 3rd speech, amina 

 

Lita, Physician 21:21:07 pm CST

Alas, I am going to hve to go. r/t duties beckon. I wish All here well, enough, and great joy. 

 

amina{Tiberias} 21:21:50 pm CST

begs forgiveness she saw after her post that the topic had been closed sorry

 

Jasmina 21:23:40 pm CST

It's alright amina. These things happen.

 

aurora{Ulrich}~t 21:24:42 pm CST

r/t bites this girl

she wishes All well

 

~dashes

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:25:25 pm CST

according to the posted agreements to My snowrose´s topic of letting a Free person lead the forum when no Captain is present i think that should be done next time

 

for now it is late here for Me .... time to teach a ceratin lovely one to be a slave

*little luscious grin* 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:26:18 pm CST

raises, wishes A/all a great evening and puts My hand on My right hip, palm outwards 

 

 amina{Tiberias} 21:27:35 pm CST

wishes all well amina must also go.

 

Dak 21:27:41 pm CST

I wish you well, Thorrn, serve well girl, *smiles* 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:28:10 pm CST

thanks, Dak

You be well too

~s~ 

 

Dak 21:28:41 pm CST

*nods*

 

marieve{GS} 21:28:43 pm CST

a girl wishes You well Master Thorrn *S* 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:29:19 pm CST

looks to My girl and gets impatient on waiting for her to raíse and hurry to her place at My palm 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:29:34 pm CST

~rolls up the scroll and hastens to her Master's side, bending forward golden hair drawn to the side by His hand 

 

Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:30:33 pm CST

ah, she has still been busy with the scripts

 

enwtines My fingers with her enticing tresses and pulls her out with Me ... anticipating 

 

snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:31:45 pm CST

snowrose wishes All well

 

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