Original Sandman
Thadron
Dak
Bretval
Lita
marieve
flicka
snowrose
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 19:30:56 pm CST
~I look at the waterclock~
I will entertain any items for discussion... just pm them to me
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 19:39:40 pm CST
Forum is open.....
Let me first bring up the rt holidays... Should we cancel slave class the eve before Thanksgiving (Nov 21st) and Forum for that Sunday (Nov 25th?)
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 19:40:26 pm CST
slave class, yes please Master
flicka, slave of Keeper. 19:41:19 pm CST
for this girl it makes no difference, we do not celebrate Thanksgiving here.
Lita, Physician 19:42:17 pm CST
We may as well, as most people will be with family and so on, and may not have time to devote to them. And what about Forum that Tuesday before too?
flicka, slave of Keeper. 19:42:26 pm CST
But a girl would imagine that for The People in America it would be difficult to attend it they were having family and friends to entertain, or were visiting.
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 19:42:35 pm CST
somehow I knew that would be your answer, flicka ~s~
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 19:45:38 pm CST
Let's rev back up the first two weeks of December... snowrose, you will get someone to cover you at the end of the term, right?
I will support regular meetings through the 19th of December... then nothing until after the 1st of January
Lita, Physician 19:45:52 pm CST
I don't suppose anyone will be available to attend that either, Thadron.
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 19:45:57 pm CST
so a post cancelling the weekly events Thanksgiving week?
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 19:47:22 pm CST
yes Master...she is hoping marieve and fidget can step up...we'll work out the dates for each
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 19:48:27 pm CST
yes, snowrose and cancel Christmas events past the 19th of December... snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 19:49:55 pm CST
yes Master...she'll make the posts
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:01:43 pm CST
I have something I wouldn't mind discussing..
but there is no incident tied to this discussion... just curious about the thoughts of those in our home...
currently we have no provision for a slave to become Free on the webpages...
The Council takes that to mean that it will not recognize a former slave as free...
how do you feel about this?
Dak 20:03:13 pm CST
the council in the past has by special provision allowed it, tho!
Lita, Physician 20:03:39 pm CST
Thadron, there was a mention on the web pages relating to that. Let Me find it. But I do wonder also if we allow male slaves here.
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:04:49 pm CST
we can talk about male slaves too...
Dak,which slave became free under special provision?....
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:06:03 pm CST
she thinks the slave would have to be formally freed by the Owner as Aidan was freed here...Not just a released slave capping her name, as one is doing now
Dak 20:06:21 pm CST
it should be in the past rulings !
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:07:27 pm CST
Aiden, was given his freedom, that's right...
that's one....
Dak 20:08:10 pm CST yes, but male slaves are not branded, to My knowledge!
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:09:00 pm CST
if there is a former slave capping her name with no declaration, I would hope that a member would bring it to the attention of the Council before she was welcomed into the home
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:09:40 pm CST
Lita, did Jason receive a brand?
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:09:57 pm CST
For this girl she could not imagine how a person would wish to be set free, for her it would be the ultimate loss of all she holds dear. But a girl can understand that for some their desire to be slave could become lost and yet they still wish to be of Gor.
However a girl would be disgusted at any who were what they call switches, slave one day Free Person the next, that is just game playing.
Dak 20:09:59 pm CST
no, He didn't !
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:11:31 pm CST
and Lita, to answer you about Kajirus.. they are sometimes GS slaves, there have been a few...
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:11:06 pm CST
she thinks it's called remission?
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:13:02 pm CST
Lita is lost in the web pages, isn't she?
Bretval, Merchant 20:13:37 pm CST
in the South of the US a freed save wast giving a document and any slave tatoo was stroked out by a branding iron or a tatoo
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:14:43 pm CST
thank you Bretval....
I think the inference was, once branded on Gor, a slave is a slave is a slave.....
discuss....
Dak 20:14:57 pm CST
Gor is not US, *smiles*
Dak 20:15:39 pm CST
well, Talena was a branded slave and became a Ubara, *smiles*
Lita, Physician 20:17:06 pm CST
I don 't recall Jason being branded, but I could be wrong. As far as "once a slave always a slave", I cannot quickly locate it, but if memory serves, the Council decided that that would no longer be a hard and fast rule. At the time I read it I was thinking of people who had been slaves a t other sites, but I suppose a slave here could be freed. I have lost my "search" feature so cna't look things up that way. darn it/!
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:17:34 pm CST
see, that's the discussion I am looking for, Dak... thanks for bringing up the quite often misguided talena
Lita, Physician 20:17:48 pm CST
snow the term is manumission for freeing a slave.
Dak 20:18:57 pm CST
but not many at the time she became Ubara ever knew she had been a slave previously
Lita, Physician 20:19:13 pm CST
And Thadron, while it wasn't often actually done in the books, there was talk of former slaves having to always have their documents of manumission handy, so it must have happened.
marieve{GS} 20:19:58 pm CST
This was under protocols, Master Thadron
Switching/Imping There is no switching in Gor. A person is either a slave or Free. Only you know truly which you are. Make your choice carefully. Anyone caught switching personalities back and forth from slave to Free will be banned from Gorean Shores. Do not assume that you will not be caught if you do. A Free Person can switch once to becoming a slave. But never again can they be Free. On Gor, a Free Person could be captured against their will. Here, you must decide to be a slave. Once you have made that decision, it is irrevocable.
Amendment: After much consideration of the Council, and in an effort to stay close to the way that the books treated this subject, it has been decided that the "once a slave, always a slave" decision may be not in keeping with general gorean principals. While the Council still frowns on "switching", it has decided it will take each case on individual merit and past history of those concerned and may on rare occasion allow one that has been slave, to return to full status of Free Person.
Dak 20:20:02 pm CST
mnale slaves on Gor can earn their freedom, or sometimes escape and become free
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:20:18 pm CST
yes thank You Mistress...as she told flicka, she has no more room in her brain these days...have to delete older things ~laughs~
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:21:27 pm CST
thank you marieve....
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:21:32 pm CST
nodding to the post marieve found,, in my time the Council has allowed manumission very very rarely,, I recall Ariel,, who had come to GS as a She-urt being allowed to return to the status
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:22:27 pm CST
but unlike mant websites we do no allow floks to die and be resurrected as a new character nor the wily nilly shifting back and forth between free and slave status
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:22:31 pm CST
Sandman, and it was mentioned that aiden was given his manumission papers.. that is all I remember
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:22:47 pm CST
~chuckling~ mistress snowrose, after forum , if you like this girl will give you her pointers on how to empty your head, it is really quite simple.
marieve{GS} 20:22:51 pm CST
You're welcome, Master Thadron ~smile~
Dak 20:23:20 pm CST
there was another back at the time of that amendment also , there may have been others after that, I never kept track of them
Bretval, Merchant 20:24:18 pm CST
To know if a female was formerlly a slave she would have to be stripped to find her brand...
Lita, Physician 20:26:20 pm CST
That is the one I was looking for, marieve! *S*
Lita, Physician 20:26:49 pm CST
Bretval that's one reason she always had to keep her manumission papers handy.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:28:54 pm CST
thank you for bringing it up Brother its always good to refressh eveyones memory of how we do things in GS
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:31:10 pm CST
if not, let's discuss December's game night
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:31:33 pm CST
marieve, do you have any ideas gathered already?
marieve{GS} 20:35:38 pm CST
aye, Master. girl was thinking perhaps a bawdy song night.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:36:12 pm CST
smiles at the idea of a bawdy song night
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:36:38 pm CST
as long as they are acted upon, marieve...
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:37:33 pm CST
oh yes marieve, bawdy songs, ~laughs~ Masters as well as slaves to write?
marieve{GS} 20:39:00 pm CST
aye, Master Thadron. as You command will be done ~grin~
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:39:55 pm CST
okay, then bawdy song night it is...
yes, both free and slave...
lasts.. anything else for Forum tonight...
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:40:31 pm CST
a girl would like to ask a silly question. What is imping?
marieve{GS} 20:41:07 pm CST
aye, flicka, the Free as well as kajirae will write a song
Lita, Physician 20:42:04 pm CST
You know, Port Kar IS a Port. I might be possible to look up the lyrics to some bawdy sea songs on the internet, and perhaps adapt the to the Gorean venu. Might be really fun.
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:42:33 pm CST
good marieve, a girl feels that so often The Free Persons are left out, we get to dance, and write naughty serves but all They get is the one oar dance at festival and an archery contest.
Lita, Physician 20:42:38 pm CST
impersonating, flicka
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:42:48 pm CST
flicka, you are speaking in reference to the message on the corks about switching?....
imping I believe would refer to playing tricks on others.. so switching to fool those in Gorean Shores would be the implication...
Sandman mentioned, going back and forth between slave and free will not be tolerated
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:44:00 pm CST
ah thank You Master Thadron, it is well named then, being impish. But not in a nice way at all.
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:44:03 pm CST
aye Mistress..that was her first thought
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:44:04 pm CST
I would hope that all would do just that..... there a many a Scottish barroom diddy that comes to mind ~winks at flicka~
Lita, Physician 20:44:16 pm CST
I question the propriety of a Free Woman writing a bawdy song. Not even sure about attending such a song fest.
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:44:16 pm CST
thank You also Mistress.
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:44:44 pm CST
impersonating makes sense in a chatroom slang session... I may have had it wrong all along ~laughs~
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:45:05 pm CST
~laughing~ The Jarl will be in His element, he has a wicked sense of humour.
Lita, Physician 20:45:33 pm CST
Sandman, what say You? Am I allowed to attend?
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:46:21 pm CST
Lita if you can stomach the bawdy tunes i would think it would be no worse than being allowed in the tavern where a master may openly take a slave
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:46:58 pm CST
as to a FW doing a bawdy tune ,, hmm not sure
Dak 20:47:18 pm CST
Imping - definition of Imping by the Free Online Dictionary ...
thefreedictionary.com/impingimp (mp) n. 1. A mischievous child. 2. A small demon. 3. Obsolete A graft. tr.v. imped, imp·ing, imps. 1. To graft (new feathers) onto the wing of a trained falcon ...
Lita, Physician 20:48:08 pm CST
True, and Physicians as part of Their work often go places that Free Women normally wouldn't be allowed. I just wanted to make sure I did not exceed My limits here. I've put too much work into being a Physician to inadvertantly earn Myself a collar! *chuckle*
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:48:32 pm CST
I think you might enjoy attending....
and making an effort to show some taste in the selection of a tune if you chose to sing it....
what do you think Lita?
flicka, slave of Keeper. 20:48:37 pm CST
~smiling ~ Thank You Master Dak.
Lita, Physician 20:48:56 pm CST
*laughs* No I am reasonably certain Me singing a bawdy tune would not be found acceptable.
Lita, Physician 20:49:38 pm CST
I might attend for a while and see, Thadron. But definitely not perform.
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:50:04 pm CST
storming off in a huff is always one way to go ~lol~
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:51:18 pm CST
I declare Forum closed tonight....
thank you one and all for participating and showing your dedication to our home....
I am not sure of the scribe tonight, but thank you
Lita, Physician 20:51:27 pm CST
*laughing hard* Now THAT I could perform EXCEEDINGLY well, Thadron!
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:52:22 pm CST
it's one of your many gifts, Lita ~chuckling~
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:53:49 pm CST
I have a tug from rt I must attend to...
Winds to all Free
slaves, I wish you well...
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:54:01 pm CST
Thank You for leading an interesting forum Master Thadron...she has the notes..