Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:04:37 pm CDT
Stepping into Forum placing My scrolls next to Me, I sit cross legged on a fur...
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:08:24 pm CDT
Tal Tanthios...
Tanthios 19:08:36 pm CDT
Walks into the forum from the Tavern
Finding a table.
Tanthios 19:08:57 pm CDT
Tal Thadron. I hope you are well this eve.
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:09:39 pm CDT
We sit on furs, Tanthios.. where did you find a table ~chuckles~
I am good friend, how are you?
Tanthios 19:11:38 pm CDT
I am doing very well* Guessing no tables in here* I looked at the layout and no mention of where the forum is held.
Tanthios 19:13:16 pm CDT
Nods
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:12:46 pm CDT
I believe the Forum was added after the architect drawings for GS were loaded on the corks..
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:15:30 pm CDT
Tal Thadron
Tal Thantios
good to see You both tonight
I hope all is well with You.
skyla{GS~o~} 19:15:50 pm CDT
quietly enters and kneels in the far back corner.
Tanthios 19:16:23 pm CDT
Tal Thorrn. I am well as I hope You are as well.
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:16:29 pm CDT
Tal Thorrn, it is good to see You tonight..
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:16:34 pm CDT
~heels behind her Master as He strides in~
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:17:04 pm CDT
greetings snowrose and skyla
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:18:10 pm CDT
Thank You Thadron
I´m well, Thantios, no major complaints
drags My girl in with Me, sits down on the fur and throws her besides Me to say the
greetings
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:18:34 pm CDT
greetings skyla *warm smile*
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:20:19 pm CDT
snowrose, can you scribe tonight?
skyla{GS~o~} 19:20:57 pm CDT
Greetings Master Thadron a girl hopes your day has been a good one ~smiles~
Greetings Jarl Thorrn ~smiles it is nice to see You~
Greetings Master Tanthois ~smiles so nice to see You this evening a girl is glad to see You here so often ~smiles~
~smiles at the beautiful snowrose
~greetings
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:21:42 pm CDT
~tumbles down laughing as she sorts herself out, kneeling~
Greetings my Master
Greetings Master Thadron
Greetings Master Tanthios
Greetings skyla
~smiles to all and prepares to scribe
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:21:57 pm CDT
greetings, skyla it is pleasing that you are here tonight
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:21:58 pm CDT
always a pleasure to see you, skyla
*s*
Tanthios 19:22:02 pm CDT
greetings skyla girl
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:22:56 pm CDT
yes Master Thadron
Tanthios 19:23:26 pm CDT
greetings snowrose
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:23:44 pm CDT
has anyone seen pld around? she was to give up her O collar on Friday but I have heard that she has had trouble getting into GS..
skyla{GS~o~} 19:23:47 pm CDT
soft whispers thank You a girl needs to learn all she can about the home she could possibly soon be in ~smiles~
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:24:25 pm CDT
~smiles~ that is good, skyla...
Tanthios 19:24:31 pm CDT
Not I
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:25:28 pm CDT
if anyone has any topics for discussion tonight they can whisper them to me now....
skyla{GS~o~} 19:25:45 pm CDT
a girl saw her earlier in the inn but did not talk to her.
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:26:26 pm CDT
I didn´t see pld since Friday or middle of last week anymore, Thadron
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:27:41 pm CDT
Tal Dak, good to see You tonight
Tanthios 19:36:52 pm CDT
*Rolls out furs and takes a seat crossing legs*
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:40:12 pm CDT
are there any items for discussion tonight? please whisper them to Me if there are
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:48:13 pm CDT
I call Forum open...the first question I will post, though we don't have any trainers here to discuss it
How can white silks learn to serve as yellow silks when yellow silks serve like white silks?
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:50:31 pm CDT
But in the moment there are so few yellow silk slaves around here, as far as i see them at My chat times
and when the are privately owned most are restricted
aatira 19:50:38 pm CDT
may a girl ask a clarifying question?
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:51:31 pm CDT
I believe My nasreen serves proudly with great heat as a yellow silk Others don't see that in her? if you don't,
then I need to be made aware of it...
Tanthios 19:51:33 pm CDT
Aye with the lack of yellow silk's about the room all they do have is a first girl trainer or research the web I feel
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:54:00 pm CDT
nods to Thadron
your girl is a perfect example for yellow silk services when one doesn´t wear silks at all
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:54:23 pm CDT
Tanthios, We do have one who is ready to test for yellow silks, though she is not here tonight, and have a few others as well...they will be appearing more and more I believe
Dak 19:54:34 pm CDT
dena did the last good yellow silk serve I've seen
natira{GS} 19:56:02 pm CDT
besides girl and one or two others not sure of who else is yellow silk
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:56:15 pm CDT
aye, dena is a good slut...
Tanthios 19:56:34 pm CDT
*Nods to Thadron* that should spice up the Tavern some if she passes the test *g*
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:57:22 pm CDT
and the Board of Captains should promote white slaves who passed the yellow silk tests with success in reasonable tie to a yellow silk
Thadron - Advisor to GS 19:58:01 pm CDT
Thorrn, I am taking responsibility to get yellow silks tested.. and when they are ready they will get tested
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:58:03 pm CDT
nassy always serves with heat...very beautifully Master Thadron
skyla{GS~o~} 19:59:18 pm CDT
this girl is still a white silk by {GS} standards but she has passed her lesson 7 and hopes to test for her Yellow silks soon. but a girl did have lots of help from the trainers one in particular. Her Old Masters had already given her her Yellow silks but then are now traded in for her nude flesh until she decides what a girl wants to do.
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 19:59:31 pm CDT
Thadron but they should also be promoted after passing the tests there is one white slave waiting for weeks already after she passed the tests and it is a hard time for her to wait *g*
Tanthios 20:01:36 pm CDT
*Nods* the corks seem to be needing updating for whatever reason for all events just to keep all current.
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:01:52 pm CDT
skyla... I am aware that you have completed your lessons...but you must be a GS slave first
nasreen{TH}t 20:02:19 pm CDT
one of the Council as far as this girl knew has to give the test...after the lessons are completed
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:03:01 pm CDT
Tanthios... I went on vacation when I was getting the right privileges to update the corks, they will be updated as soon as I can
Tanthios 20:03:53 pm CDT
Wonderful Thadron. I do know it takes time and is fairly updated to current status *g*
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:04:05 pm CDT
that would be Me nasreen ~chuckles~ I have permission to do the testing
Tanthios 20:05:22 pm CDT
*chuckles as I reach for My flask and take a drink*
nasreen{TH}t 20:05:56 pm CDT
aye Master....
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:07:37 pm CDT
any other comments?
Tanthios 20:07:38 pm CDT
Well how many GS slaves are there that are active? I've only seen one, now three *looking at natira and skyla*
nasreen{TH}t 20:08:22 pm CDT
we lost a good kajira when dena left..
natira{GS} 20:08:53 pm CDT
girl has been trying to be more active not easy sometimes ~flushes
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:09:54 pm CDT
I think you answered your own question, Tanthios
aatira 20:11:29 pm CDT
please excuse this one's ignorance... is it possible for white silks to e-mail a yellow silk serve to the first girl and ask for feedback on the serve? or even to one of the Captains? for His feedback? kind of a practice serve... to learn from?
Dak 20:12:48 pm CDT
your ignorance, you were one of the best serving slaves I've ever seen !
Tanthios 20:12:56 pm CDT
I don't see a problem with that aatira. That shows their desire to upgrade and continue onward.
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:12:58 pm CDT
As J.N. writes so often, for a woman to become a slave means to find her real freedom. Though very often the word "slave" is used to scold slaves, even other slaves scold their sisters as "slave meat" or "collar meat" when they show heat and the need for a Man how do you explain the dichotomy?
So the true nature of women, to be slave, is also on Gor used as kind of injury to use names on a girl, even by their sisters and not just by FW
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:14:37 pm CDT
aatira, yes, it is possible and also to attend lessons and discuss serves there...
nasreen{TH}t 20:15:35 pm CDT
has any one heard if or when mistress shadow will return?
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:15:55 pm CDT
there is a training address aatira...slaves do not go directly to the Captains
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:16:34 pm CDT
aye, snowrose, not directly
aatira 20:17:16 pm CDT
thank you... one was unsure, snowrose... she was never property of GS and much has changed since she has been away...
Dak 20:17:47 pm CDT
I am available for anyone that needs help with serves.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:17:50 pm CDT
she will pm it to you in a few minutes
aatira 20:18:42 pm CDT
thank you again snowrose... one is very grateful for your assistance...
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:20:55 pm CDT
name calling often is really revealing something about the one doing the name calling.. often involving jealousy .... is that not so?
natira{GS} 20:21:55 pm CDT
very true Master Thadron ~nods nods~ girl has dealt with that very often
Tanthios 20:22:15 pm CDT
I think you nailed it on the head Thadron. I was blank on that one but I think Jealousy could be a large factor.
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:22:40 pm CDT
that it is , Thadron it tells a lot about slaves chiding another slave with the word "slave" or "slave meat". It happens often that slaves ´do this in the books, using the word slave as injury to her sisters in chain
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:23:51 pm CDT
It doesn´t wonder when a FW does this but what Me astonishes that slaves do this too. I think with this there is a lot of earth thinking in the books of Gor
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:24:48 pm CDT
I think each slave has to find in herself if she is really slave or not... outside of worrying about the name calling...
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:26:27 pm CDT
I believe J.N. is an earthling, but I may be wrong... ~chuckles~
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:26:29 pm CDT
Thantios jealousy and envy are very common with slaves but what astonished Me was to see that they used the word "slave" as injury
aatira 20:26:47 pm CDT
*soft smile* and why would a slave take those names as anything but compliment? one guesses that a slave can relish in her position and the freedom it gives her to be herself but if being called slave meat and slave bother her perhaps she has not experienced the freedom of her slavery...
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:26:51 pm CDT
grins @ Thadron you may have a point with that
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:27:47 pm CDT
It has been this one's experience, for the most part, that her sisters are very supportive of each other here in GS.
Dak 20:28:15 pm CDT
well quite often that was with barbarians, which were usually uncomfortable with being slaves, and it was to remind them that they also were exactly that, slave !
nasreen{TH}t 20:29:35 pm CDT
from this one's experience here in GS it has been very supportive....
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:30:30 pm CDT
but I have seen some r/p in here with some chiding.. but it's definitely not the norm
skyla{GS~o~} 20:30:35 pm CDT
a girl must go by her heart and nothing else. this girl knows there have been many tell her she will never be able to be a slave but her heart tells her differently and at the end of the day that is all she has even if it gets crushed a few times through her mistakes it still beats to what it is and that cannot be changed no matter what othere wants her to be..
natira{GS} 20:30:54 pm CDT
the girls here in GS are very supportive and helpful from girls experience, other homes she hasn't been so lucky
Tanthios 20:31:41 pm CDT
agreed if a slave is called slave she knows she is doing a wonderful job at it. Now if other words are call that could be harmful I'm not aware of them.
Dak 20:34:11 pm CDT
I was always told, that a girl being called slut was a high compliment for a slave, so possibly, just being called slave is not so high !
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:34:20 pm CDT
doesn't bother this one to be called slave...but it's all in the tone...here in GS she has never seen a slave treat another that way
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:34:53 pm CDT
thanks for that question...I have another to discuss about slave behaviour..
if a slave is in a private room in GS can she be ordered by a Free to come to the Tavern
to serve?
Tanthios 20:35:16 pm CDT
Perhaps if other name calling is apparent then it most likely falls back to jealousy
nasreen{TH}t 20:35:59 pm CDT
depends on if she is in the private room in service of another Free Master.. if she is there by herself then yes she has to leave and go serve..and He shouldn't have to order it
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:36:09 pm CDT
This one was taught that a Master, any Master, can call her anything they wish in any tone they wish. No matter how she takes it, it should not affect her attitude or serve towards a Master or a Mistress.
nasreen{TH}t 20:36:56 pm CDT
all the GS and privately owned kajira that this girl knows would not stay in a private room by themselves if she see's the Free enter..
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:36:57 pm CDT
~nods~ well said inara
nasreen{TH}t 20:38:46 pm CDT
we are all taught not to enter unless we have the time to serve...which brings up that there should be no slave entering and leaving a room with out a post..
Tanthios 20:39:12 pm CDT
I don't see anything wrong with that. That being the case the Free feels that the slave will display her desire to serve well and display her actions. Again to perhaps move forward to say upgrade the silks. I agree, nasreen the slave should not have to be ordered to come out and serve and what about new girls and barenecked girls?
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:40:20 pm CDT
when snow is alone in private room she tries to keep an eye on the rooms and goes to the tavern and offers...but if she was alone and called she would go at once
natira{GS} 20:40:33 pm CDT
nods nods~ girl doesn't enter unless she knows she is able to spend time in the room and serve. it is not pleasing girl doesn't think for the free to see a girl enter but not say a word or even post an entry
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:41:02 pm CDT
*nods to nasreen* No slave should be entering or leaving an official room, besides the slave kennels, without posting an entrance and and request to leave. However, this one was taught in GS that if one is not answered or even if no free are in the room, they should request permission to leave in three separate posts.
nasreen{TH}t 20:41:17 pm CDT
bareneck's take a chance of a forced collar.. how new Master?
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:41:30 pm CDT
It is a rule for GS-owned slaves that they have to come to the room where an unattended Master is and ask if He wishes service This is only not applying at times of slave classes, forum, book club and such events
aatira 20:41:41 pm CDT
*listening intently when barenecked girls are the topic of conversation...*
Tanthios 20:42:19 pm CDT
*Witnessed inara's 3 post before*
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:42:26 pm CDT
~nods~ correct Thorrn
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:44:01 pm CDT
*nods* May this one ask for clarification, the question was if they are in a private room and their name simply shows on the list, not if they are in an official room in GS.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:44:05 pm CDT
the only times she is in a private room it is because sometimes she can't access the corks directly, but can from a room here
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:44:34 pm CDT
~nods~ correct, inara, and a GS slave is required to post 3 times when unanswered then she may enter or exit as is the case
nasreen{TH}t 20:45:14 pm CDT
if a girl is privately Owned and no Free are in the Tavern, then a girl may enter without begging entrance..if a Free is present she must beg entrance, if not answered after three times of asking then she may enter..
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:45:24 pm CDT
this can only apply to someone in a public room, inarawhen a Master is in a private room a slave doesn´t have to offer service ... if she is not the one the Master came in for and awaiting her, of cause
Dak 20:46:19 pm CDT
does that, or does it not apply also to privately owned slaves as well ?
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:47:22 pm CDT
inara, it is the same.. when a slave sees a Free enter they need to go and see if they can be of service... they are responsible to their Masters to behave this way in GS... if a girl has no Master... then she acts on her own accord and suffers whatever consequences arise
Tanthios 20:48:12 pm CDT
Agreed If a Master created a private room He shouldn't be able to demand a slut to come serve Him. It should be in open forum before a private room is opened that is if the slave restrictions allow it.
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:48:40 pm CDT
Thorrn, right, a slave will be looking to serve a Free who is in a public room
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:49:05 pm CDT
no such rule for privately owned slave they only have to follow the orders of their Maste If those order should not be acceptable to the community of Port Kar it would be a matter of the Board of Captains to have a word with that Master on behalf of the behaving of His slave(s)
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:50:03 pm CDT
*nods to both Master Thadron and Jarl Thorrn.* Thank You for the clarification.
aatira 20:50:19 pm CDT
in the past when there were factions and fighting some privately owned slaves were forbidden from serving Some Free... does that happen any more... and if it does what are the consequences tot he girl for not entering and serving if it is one she was forbidden to serve?
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:52:16 pm CDT
thank you Thorrn... another clarification.. a GS slave does not have to beg entrance to the Tavern, but he/she does have to ask to leave
nasreen{TH}t 20:52:20 pm CDT
aatira girl hasn't seen that...but that would be a matter for the girls Master to handle this one would think
aatira 20:52:31 pm CDT
one apologizes the answer is before her eyes... thank You Jarl Thorrn
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:53:59 pm CDT
I have not seen it happening overtly aatir that would be something to bring up to the Council when it occurs
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 20:54:12 pm CDT
these times are gone since a while, aatira i the moment there are no factions and such and i don´t know of slaves not allowed to serve a special Master If a girl would be instructed this way it will not be the slave who could be blamed, the discussion would have to be with her Master
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:56:45 pm CDT
I was addressing the possibility that a Free was ordering their slave not to serve certain Frees. I would hope the Free would discuss this with the Council so that factions did not exist.. though I suppose factions are very Gorean
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 20:57:46 pm CDT
The only time this one could see her Master forbidding her to serve another Free was if they continued to violate the restrictions He put on Her.
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:58:48 pm CDT
nods that would be such an occasion, inara
Thadron - Advisor to GS 20:59:40 pm CDT
please post any last discussion on this subject
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:00:09 pm CDT
That would be understandable, inara a Master should respect the restrictions her Master put on her
Tanthios 21:01:38 pm CDT
*Nodding*
Thadron - Advisor to GS 21:02:06 pm CDT
If there is nothing else, I have one other item of business
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:03:35 pm CDT
listens what this item may be
Thadron - Advisor to GS 21:03:46 pm CDT
Tanthios... I hear you have something to ask me?
nasreen{TH}t 21:03:48 pm CDT
listening
Tanthios 21:04:40 pm CDT
Aye Thadron * I rise and straighten My Tunic as I walk to Thadron and Stand before Him in full red caste attention*
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:05:38 pm
CDT
looks at the Man as He strides up to the Advisor
nasreen{TH}t 21:06:03 pm CDT
watching
Thadron - Advisor to GS 21:06:08 pm CDT
~My staff in My hand, standing on the Dais~
Tanthios,
Do you pledge your honor, loyalty and steel to the Council of Captains of Gorean Shores, your obedience to the Decisions of the Council, and your support and defense of the tavern to the best of your ability?
Tanthios 21:06:15 pm CDT
I wish to pledge My honor, My loyalty, My steel as well as My Tarn named Whissle to the Gorean Shores.
aatira 21:06:38 pm CDT
*eyes ever watchful as the suspense is in the air*
Thadron - Advisor to GS 21:07:03 pm CDT
~nods~
Do you pledge to make Gorean Shores your Home and to put no other loyalties above this tavern?
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 21:07:12 pm CDT
*blue eyes watch Master Thadron and Master Tanthios.*
skyla{GS~o~} 21:07:29 pm CDT
smiles upon the Masters conducting the Pledge of a Master
Tanthios 21:07:57 pm CDT
Aye Thadron. My loyalties shall be only to this Home and I shall be a devoted patron leaving My furs to remain in the Tavern.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:08:43 pm CDT
~watches quietly in this solemn moment~
Thadron - Advisor to GS 21:09:33 pm CDT
As Advisor and on behalf of the Council of Captains of Gorean Shores, I accept your pledge and welcome you, as a Pledged Patron. Upon your posting of your pledge to the Gorean Shores Message Board on the Homepage, your name will be added to the list of Pledged Patrons.
Congratulations ~holding out my hand to the Free~
Dak 21:10:36 pm CDT
Congrats, Tanthios, and welcome to GS
Tanthios 21:10:59 pm CDT
Thank You Thadron! *Giving Thadron a firm shake as a smile grows upon My face* It is a pleasure as well as an offer to protect and call Gorean Shores My home!
skyla{GS~o~} 21:11:26 pm CDT
Congratulations Master Tanthios ~smiles~
natira{GS} 21:11:40 pm CDT
smiles welcome home Master Tanthios congratulations
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:11:42 pm CDT
smites My left shoulder with My right palm Congrats, Tanthios and welcome home
Thadron - Advisor to GS 21:11:49 pm CDT
~motions Tanthios to turn to those attending~
Welcome home
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:12:03 pm CDT
Welcome home Master Tanthios..~smiles warmly~
Tanthios 21:12:43 pm CDT
*Turns to the room* Standing firmly
aatira 21:12:51 pm CDT
congratulations Master Tanthios... one wishes You a long and pleasurable life in Gorean Shores...
inara {Kyoto of Port Kar} 21:13:11 pm CDT
*smiles* welcome to GS Master Tanthios.
Dak 21:13:50 pm CDT
arising, and slapping My right fist against My left shoulder in a Gorean clap
Tanthios 21:14:25 pm CDT
I am proud to call Gorean Shores My home
nasreen{TH}t 21:14:50 pm CDT
congratulations Master Tanthios
Thadron - Advisor to GS 21:14:51 pm CDT
~smiles, lifting My slut to her feet~
marieve{GS} 21:15:07 pm CDT
~warm smile~ girl hopes Your new home is all You desire Master Tanthio§
nasreen{TH}t 21:15:24 pm CDT
standing as Master pulls her to her feet...
Tanthios 21:15:29 pm CDT
*Pounds shoulder as well as I walk back to My furs*
natira{GS} 21:15:48 pm CDT
~smiles as she continues to watch and listen
Thadron - Advisor to GS 21:16:18 pm CDT
I now call Forum closed.... rt has distracted me from making the proper arrangements for festival, once the planning committee has met and a new plan is in place, I will post it to the corks
Tanthios 21:16:27 pm CDT
Thank you Brothers!
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:16:45 pm CDT
May you find pleasure and joy in here, Tanthios
Tanthios 21:17:03 pm CDT
*Heads to the Tavern*
natira{GS} 21:17:32 pm CDT
thank you Master Thadron for holding forum and of course lovely snowrose for scribing, girl is very glad to have made it here tonight ~smiles
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:20:12 pm CDT
Thank You for leading the forum Master Thadron...
nasreen{TH}t 21:20:35 pm CDT
Thank You Master for leading and snowrose for scribing..
Thadron - Advisor to GS 21:21:01 pm CDT
Thanks everyone for their insightful discussions.. I will be in the Tavern shortly
Jarl Thorrn loves His roses 21:25:23 pm CDT
Thank You Thadron for guiding the forum and thank you My girl for scribing *kisses her neck*
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:26:21 pm CDT
~shivers at His hot breath on her neck, as she finishes up the scrolls~