Thadron 19:43:37 pm CDT
if anyone has any topics, now is a good time to whisper them to Me...
nasreen{TH}t 19:44:34 pm CDT
hushes to listen...
Thadron 19:46:09 pm CDT
amina, I have half a mind to take you all to the Tavern ~winks~...
girls, any topics for tonight?
nasreen{TH}t 19:47:10 pm CDT
hmmm only half a mind Master?
Thadron 19:48:00 pm CDT
and be patient with Me, My computer is misbehaving at the moment
~amina{Tiberias}~Masters kitten ~Gor kajira~ 19:48:00 pm CDT
your looks stole the other half nassy~smiles~
nasreen{TH}t 19:49:34 pm CDT
blushing at amina's words.....thank you sweetness....
Thadron 19:50:46 pm CDT
if you think of any topics please send them to Me....
first, I would like to talk about book club... we have 5 chapters left in Assassin of Gor... where would we like to go next... Nomads to learn of the Wagon People or Hunters?... any opinions? or other suggestions...
Thadron 19:51:19 pm CDT
amina, the slut does occupy many of My thoughts....
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:52:15 pm CDT
we have been reading them in order up to now Master...maybe that would be best?
zoe{Kyoto} 19:52:20 pm CDT
this one would be interested in reading Nomads...it was a Master from the Wagon People who introduced this one to Gor years ago...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:53:20 pm CDT
we already read Nomads...Raiders would be #6
zoe{Kyoto} 19:53:35 pm CDT
oh...
Thadron 19:54:09 pm CDT
snowrose... Nomads is book 3 and I think we skipped it...
Assassins is 5... I don't have My notes open... which are 6,7,and 8... we have read Raiders already
karima{Tiberias} 19:57:23 pm CDT
Raiders, Captives, and Hunters. 6, 7, & 8. Nomads is 4
Thadron 19:57:29 pm CDT
did I just miss the book discussion on Nomad's?
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:57:43 pm CDT
it was the first we read when Master Xertog started up the book club again...she has the notes but it's on a different computer
Thadron 19:58:17 pm CDT
we read Captive too already... that was Elinor Brinton, right?
Thadron 19:59:10 pm CDT
do you remember that we read Raiders and Captive of Gor, snowrose?
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 19:59:53 pm CDT
no Master...not in her time here
Thadron 20:00:35 pm CDT
I know I missed the end of Priest Kings so I missed Nomads too?
Thadron 20:01:12 pm CDT
nasreen, am I going mad? or did we read Raiders and Captive with Xertog?
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:01:22 pm CDT
yes Master...but girl would be happy to send the notes to any who wish them...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:03:37 pm CDT
there are so many new people Master...maybe we could do Nomads again...it's her fave so far
Thadron 20:04:15 pm CDT
I think nassy is on an rti...
would everyone like to move to Raiders... I know I have discussed that here within the last two years but I will be glad to do it again...
~amina{Tiberias}~Masters kitten ~Gor kajira~ 20:04:55 pm CDT
amina has not read any but the first one so she is happy to read any of them for book club
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:05:05 pm CDT
maybe they were read out of order...but last year we read Nomads...snowrose would be fine with reading it again
nasreen{TH}t 20:05:09 pm CDT
we read Raiders, and she thought Captive also...
Thadron 20:05:40 pm CDT
snowrose, I would like to read Nomads and zoe agreed... I know little of the wagon people... could you ask Thorrn if He agrees and I will ask Dak....
karima{Tiberias} 20:05:56 pm CDT
for the moment, this one has to focus on rt studies for finals, so the only thing she'll be reading for the next week are her text books *sighs*
Thadron 20:07:15 pm CDT
Nomads follows Priest Kings... Tarl is given the quest from the nest Mother to find the last egg and the place to look is with the Wagon People...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:07:42 pm CDT
we read it just before Assassins...then there was a break...girl is fine with it Master...you are leading the club now..girl's dreamboat is in Nomads
Thadron 20:09:01 pm CDT
I think nassy is on an rti...
would everyone like to move to Raiders... I know I have discussed that here within the last two years but I will be glad to do it again...
nasreen{TH}t 20:09:55 pm CDT
seems Your computer is still giving You fits Master...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:10:08 pm CDT
You shouldn't miss Nomads Master...it's really good
Ramses 20:11:04 pm CDT
Tal and greetings
Thadron 20:11:18 pm CDT
yes, I typed three messages that got eaten.... pardon Me for that
I would like to go to Nomads next... I will get concurrence on Tuesday at book club from whomever makes it
Thadron 20:11:53 pm CDT
~nods to Ramses~ Tal
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:12:03 pm CDT
the book club used to be led by Master Xertog...de facto, You're it Master
zoe{Kyoto} 20:12:14 pm CDT
greetings Master Ramses
Ramses 20:12:47 pm CDT
greetings zoe
you used to known as bria?
zoe{Kyoto} 20:14:10 pm CDT
no Master Ramses
Ramses 20:14:52 pm CDT
ahhhh, then its a pleasure to meet you, zoe
Thadron 20:14:59 pm CDT
The next book for book club will be Nomads.. there are two more discussions on Assassins first though..
the next topic, is there interest in celebrating Envar again in June? pardon My spelling
zoe{Kyoto} 20:15:38 pm CDT
thank You Master Ramses, and You as well
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:16:21 pm CDT
this one is always up for a festival...just getting people to come may be an issue...need the Free to attend, or it's not a festival
nasreen{TH}t 20:16:32 pm CDT
next book to read is Nomads....making a note...
nasreen{TH}t 20:16:56 pm CDT
very true snowrose...
Thadron 20:17:19 pm CDT
snowrose, the festival required alot of planning I will have some time to help plan, but would need lots of help
Ramses 20:17:47 pm CDT
I'll try to make a point of attending, snowrose
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:18:55 pm CDT
girl will help Master...she has a light load this summer...p/t work and p/t school
Thadron 20:19:13 pm CDT
we could get the notes from the last festival, and try to remember what worked and what didn't .... and maybe have events on a couple of nights in a row... or 3 or even 4
nasreen{TH}t 20:19:33 pm CDT
this ones schedule is too hetic to help plan...but tell when and where...she will show up..
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:19:35 pm CDT
~smiles to Master Ramses~
Thadron 20:19:44 pm CDT
do you have access to the schedule from the last festival, snow?
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:20:44 pm CDT
girl didn't scribe then...don't think anyone did ...but she will research it if You like Master
Thadron 20:20:51 pm CDT
and everyone could send snowrose events they would like to see included
Ramses 20:21:24 pm CDT
*winks backs at snowrose*
Thadron 20:21:27 pm CDT
aye, girl we may be able to find it ... I would appreciate it if you look
nasreen{TH}t 20:22:06 pm CDT
knows that we have new girls that can do their first dances for the festival...
~amina{Tiberias}~Masters kitten ~Gor kajira~ 20:23:03 pm CDT
this girl could also help plan.
Thadron 20:23:19 pm CDT
snowrose you could also post to the corks that we are interested in ideas for the festival
nasreen{TH}t 20:23:36 pm CDT
Master Ramses it is always a pleasure You can visit ...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:24:17 pm CDT
yes Master Thadron she will...she remembers some of the events,...games
Ramses 20:24:21 pm CDT
nasreen, I happen to agree
*grins*
its always a pleasure to see you as well, girl
zoe{Kyoto} 20:24:26 pm CDT
this girl has never been to a festival...
Thadron 20:24:31 pm CDT
thank you amina... hopefully we can have a tentative list of events to discuss at Forum next week and then get into planning....
aye, nasreen... the dances are a highlight of any festival
Thadron 20:25:30 pm CDT
anymore thoughts on the festival before we move on?
nasreen{TH}t 20:25:43 pm CDT
smiling at Master Ramses..thank You...
zoe they are fun....lots of food, games,....dancing....and such...
nasreen{TH}t 20:26:01 pm CDT
aye Master lots of fun for the Master's when the girls dance..
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:26:17 pm CDT
amina, since you are interested in dances perhaps you could be in charge of that event if the Masters agree
Ramses 20:26:32 pm CDT
*chuckles*
that's very true nasreen
Thadron 20:27:06 pm CDT
and after the girls dance as well ~grins~ lots of fun
zoe{Kyoto} 20:27:11 pm CDT
~smiles listening to nasreen...
nasreen{TH}t 20:27:23 pm CDT
laughing true Master....
~amina{Tiberias}~Masters kitten ~Gor kajira~ 20:28:00 pm CDT
that would be fun but this one is just learning how to dance the dance she wrote she does not even know if it would be considered a {GS} dance amina is still so new at dancing.
Thadron 20:28:43 pm CDT
snowrose, if you can start putting a tentative list together, then we can get someone assigned to plan each event and make it easier for everybody... good idea
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:29:24 pm CDT
but you could do the scheduling?...making sure the girls dances are the right length etc...
Thadron 20:29:42 pm CDT
amina, your sisters will be glad to give you ideas... last festival we had different levels.. one category was first dance ~smiles~
~amina{Tiberias}~Masters kitten ~Gor kajira~ 20:30:08 pm CDT
it could be fun to have a serve off on who could write and serve the most creative serve depending on their silk level.
zoe{Kyoto} 20:30:31 pm CDT
what if one does not wear silks?
Thadron 20:30:37 pm CDT
aye, a serve contest would be good as well
~amina{Tiberias}~Masters kitten ~Gor kajira~ 20:31:58 pm CDT
~smiles~ at zoe then you get all the fun! if you were to wear silks what silk color would it be?
nasreen{TH}t 20:31:59 pm CDT
the level of silks you would be wearing then zoe..
this one doesn't wear any...
Thadron 20:32:55 pm CDT
there would be a category for anyone wanting to dance zoe...
any white silk girls would have to dance according to their restrictions of course... but I think that was allowed.. that will have to be investigated with the first girl before white silks were permitted to dance... we will provide more on that later
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:33:10 pm CDT
nor this one most of the time...
zoe{Kyoto} 20:33:36 pm CDT
~nods...
this one is unsure... she has danced... she has served... there is always room for improvement..
zoe{Kyoto} 20:34:09 pm CDT
yes Master Thadron
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:34:46 pm CDT
does Your Master wish you to be trained by a GS trainer zoe?
zoe{Kyoto} 20:35:10 pm CDT
she does not know, she will have to ask Him...
Thadron 20:36:07 pm CDT
you know the day and time of GS slave lessons, zoe?
zoe{Kyoto} 20:36:28 pm CDT
yes Master Thadron, Wednesday's at 8 central
Thadron 20:37:51 pm CDT
okay, I declare that topic closed for this hand...
one last topic that will probably take the rest of our time tonight..
it was asked, what is the philosophy of Gor? is it different for everyone?
Thadron 20:39:28 pm CDT
~grins~ maybe not all night.. maybe several
zoe{Kyoto} 20:39:55 pm CDT
~smiles deeply
nasreen{TH}t 20:39:58 pm CDT
actually zoe it has been moved to 7 central
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:40:33 pm CDT
the time as been changed zoe...it's 7:30 central, but begins at 7 for questions and comments
nasreen{TH}t 20:40:41 pm CDT
greetings,
those of you that were at class last night saw that mistress asked this one to post the time for class has changed.
class is still on Wednesday nights, the time frame that we need to set aside is 7pm to 9pm that is GS time.
we voted that we wanted an earlier time.
Thadron 20:41:14 pm CDT
thank you nasreen, since I'm not in slave lessons and don't reside in central time... I let that go without realizing that it was no longer the correct time
nasreen{TH}t 20:41:14 pm CDT
that is the post that this one made on the corks about the time change...
nasreen{TH}t 20:41:42 pm CDT
smiles at her Master....
zoe{Kyoto} 20:43:18 pm CDT
~smiles
thank you ..she would have been late
nasreen{TH}t 20:43:45 pm CDT
most welcome zoe...
Thadron 20:44:25 pm CDT
I will speak first, the philosophy of Gor is in the books
online Gor has taken the books in different directions.. not all that Wwe do here is exactly like the books, but We do discuss the differences and the Council then makes decisions...
many fine people have spent alot of time putting data in the website here and the corks... that's where we point those who want to learn of Gor and of Gorean Shores, besides offering discussions here
zoe{Kyoto} 20:45:05 pm CDT
is there a philosophy of Gor? and if so, what kind?
Thadron 20:45:53 pm CDT
what do you know of Gor so far, zoe? so we know where to begin
zoe{Kyoto} 20:47:45 pm CDT
well, she knows that there is a strong concept of all women being slaves within and that Men are dominant..
zoe{Kyoto} 20:48:59 pm CDT
she knows too, that to be complete, Master must have slave and slave must Master.. otherwise there is an imbalance to their universe....
zoe{Kyoto} 20:49:20 pm CDT
however,
Thadron 20:50:05 pm CDT
that would be the practice on Gor and in Gorean Shores, zoe...
of course not all Men are Free on Gor and not all women are slave..
Thadron 20:50:47 pm CDT
~smiles~ go on
nasreen{TH}t 20:51:14 pm CDT
listening...
zoe{Kyoto} 20:51:37 pm CDT
~nods..
then what is the philosophy
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:52:29 pm CDT
girl doesn't really agree with that...many Masters choose not to have personal slaves and are well balanced...and while all slaves are owned, not all are personal slaves...some do not even want a personal Master for one reason or another
zoe{Kyoto} 20:53:43 pm CDT
ah but to some degree the One will seek out the other at some point in order to make that connection thereby completing T/themselves, if only for a brief time...
nasreen{TH}t 20:54:22 pm CDT
many girls are happy with just the Tavern collar...
this girl was happy when she wore the Tavern collar....
hazel eyes looking up at her Master...though she is happier now, and has grown much under Your collar
Thadron 20:54:48 pm CDT
I am not a philosopher, zoe...
Goreans believe in Honor among Free of course there are examples plenty in the books where Men do not act Honorably
and Goreans believe that strong Men take the slaves of weaker Men.. that's why they take from Earth...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 20:56:01 pm CDT
well, yes, but that's not the same ...to this one the basic core philosophy of Gor is male domination...and most Masters believe that all women are slaves deep down, even FW
but for the Free, there is a code of honor that is very strong
Thadron 20:56:32 pm CDT
nods~ well said zoe and nasreen...
I think for this discussion you want to talk about the relationship between a Master and a slave?
~amina{Tiberias}~Masters kitten ~Gor kajira~ 20:56:44 pm CDT
some may never have a personal Master some choose to serve the tavern they still have balance but they get to explore as many Masters as they choose rather than choosing a specific Master.
zoe{Kyoto} 20:59:30 pm CDT
while it is very true that slaves with no personal Owners are happy and Masters with no slaves are happy...there has to be a point in which they feel absolute wholeness when being together...
zoe{Kyoto} 21:00:34 pm CDT
and there has to be a point when not together, they feel an imbalance...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:01:16 pm CDT
~shakes her head~ still can't agree with that...some of us may feel that way, but many are perfectly happy..in fact there is a book quote about how very rare it is for a slave to find her true Master, and He His true slave...
Thadron 21:03:54 pm CDT
~smiles~ I believe that many have experienced what you are talking about zoe...
and when I read the books, it appears that most slaves are looking for a connnection to one Master and vice versa...
zoe{Kyoto} 21:03:54 pm CDT
hmmm...zoe isn't making herself clear ...she isn't speaking of emotion..she is speaking of balance...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:04:43 pm CDT
she does not see the imbalance...if they need it to be balanced, then that is emotion..
Thadron 21:06:59 pm CDT
`nods~ that is correct, snowrose... it is not what all are looking for...
I came to Gor looking for the answer to a similar question, can I go find pleasure in more than one slave and can I let Mine serve another One's pleasure...
zoe{Kyoto} 21:07:53 pm CDT
and did You find the answer to Your question Master Thadron?
Thadron 21:09:15 pm CDT
I don't believe that a balance of one Master to one slave totally commited is in the books, zoe.... if you have examples otherwise, I would like to know
zoe{Kyoto} 21:10:48 pm CDT
no Master, she doesn't but she does agree with You and it is beginning to make sense
Thadron 21:11:02 pm CDT
it is a journey for Me, zoe.... but I am pleased with what I've learned about Myself in Gor...
zoe{Kyoto} 21:11:21 pm CDT
~smiles
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:11:26 pm CDT
we have to remember that we have Earth thinking to some extent...we cannot help it...but that is is not part of the Gorean philosophy she thinks
Thadron 21:12:38 pm CDT
aye, Tarl was in conflict with his earthly upbringing at times as well
nasreen{TH}t 21:13:04 pm CDT
comes back trying to catch up...Gor is journey for each of us she thinks..
Thadron 21:14:03 pm CDT
but I do believe that every girl has a slave heart within and it takes a strong Master to develop that within her... I learn much from My slut and I know she has learned much from Me and from former Masters as well
nasreen{TH}t 21:14:38 pm CDT
nodding as Master speaks the truth...
zoe{Kyoto} 21:14:43 pm CDT
~smiles
~amina{Tiberias}~Masters kitten ~Gor kajira~ 21:15:15 pm CDT
amina realized just recently how she really though what was Gor to her she thought about it is serving and dancing then the thought but who is it for, easy answers the Free. But then another thought struck her yes it is that and if she was a tavern slave that would be her case but she is not she is owned by a kind and loving Master that wants what is best for her. so if he wants that why does he not deserve that same care. amina realized she does not have her priorities straight yes she loves to serve and bring honor to her Masters name among the Masters but if she is not pleasing to her Master then what is the point of trying to please them. so amina is now devoting 100 of her time to her Master when he is on line and serving the Free when is not. his joy and happiness is now her #1 priority. for he is the number one important persion in Gor to her and she will strive to please him always.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:16:26 pm CDT
yes Master...this one requires a strong Master..she is still trying to find herself and this experience has taught her so much about herself as a woman...what she needs...and how to recognize it when she meets it...what is the important part of the Master's guidance...and translate that to real life
zoe{Kyoto} 21:17:09 pm CDT
~smiles nodding...
Thadron 21:18:01 pm CDT
it is time to close Forum.. thank you all who could stay til the end
thank you snowrose...
I just realized I will miss book club because of travel....
I had forgotten which night I would be on the Tarn...
and next hand, snowrose will have some ideas for festival events, and everyone is free to send her recommendations
nasreen{TH}t 21:18:04 pm CDT
nodding so true..
zoe{Kyoto} 21:18:41 pm CDT
this one is hungry..she has to go for bit..she thanks You Master Thadron for leading the discussion... and she wishes You well..
well wishes beauties
nasreen{TH}t 21:18:57 pm CDT
thank You Master for leading...thank you snowrose for scribing...
nasreen{TH}t 21:19:11 pm CDT
take care zoe...
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:19:35 pm CDT
Thank You for a very interesting forum Master Thadron...girl will send the book club notes to You
Thadron 21:21:02 pm CDT
I meant thank you snowrose for scribing...
but also, amina and snowrose your last comments were moving...
zoe, thank you for your question, it spurred some good discussion
~amina{Tiberias}~Masters kitten ~Gor kajira~ 21:21:08 pm CDT
thank you for leading Master Thadron
you scroll so well snowrose!
have fun nassy1
is any going into the tavern tonight?
Thadron 21:21:43 pm CDT
be well snowrose...
be well zoe
zoe{Kyoto} 21:21:48 pm CDT
~smiles..waving goodbye
Thadron 21:22:08 pm CDT
Tal Dak... I hope you are well
nasreen{TH}t 21:22:30 pm CDT
greetings Master Dak
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:22:37 pm CDT
Greetings Master Dak
Thadron 21:22:40 pm CDT
amina, I think I have to be off already... so I won't be going to the Tavern
~amina{Tiberias}~Masters kitten ~Gor kajira~ 21:23:34 pm CDT
greetings Master Dak
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:25:02 pm CDT
This one must be off as well...she wishes All goodnight
Thadron 21:25:23 pm CDT
~smiles~ be well snowrose
nasreen{TH}t 21:25:29 pm CDT
take care snowrose...see you Tuesday hopefully..
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:28:09 pm CDT
Master Thadron, girl will of course seek her Master's permission to help with the festival...~smiles~
Thadron 21:28:48 pm CDT
smiles, good that you thought of that, snowrose...
I assumed you would and will wait to hear His reply
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure 21:29:45 pm CDT
Goodnight again ..~blows a kiss and is gone~