MENTORING FREE
Xertog 19:26:26 CST
Lets start this weeks forum. The regular rules apply. Please keep the greetings, chit chat and role play to whispers..
Xertog 19:31:21 CST
We had a topic that was announced at the end of last weeks forum and posted on the message board. It was:
"greetings Master, i thought i have had often is what if GS was to offer some kind of Mentoring program for Masters to join together, esp say the Captains that could help those new to not only GS but to Gor, a proper way for Others to learn 'learn and grow within Gor'
my thought is that it would help GS grow and band together stronger?"
Also we need to scribe for the forum.. Please PM Laroona if you can do so.
Xertog 19:33:40 CST
You can see the comments on the message board here:
http://www.gorean-shores.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1147&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
DoubleBlade 19:35:10 CST
I think that would be a good i dea Xertog
Laroona 19:37:37 CST
can any whose name does not appear please add your name please next to your icon
Xertog 19:38:15 CST
A mentor program can be done different ways. When I was at GC they had a web page with a list of mentors and how to contact them.. Another way is for a new person to be assigned a mentor
orli_{GS}~t 19:39:47 CST
personally Master
orli finds assigning people to mentors works best
even with the slaves.....orli finds that if they
are told who the trainers are...they are more
reluctant to go to anyone but if they have one person
they can turn to.....someone they build a repoire with,
it helps in the learning process
Laroona 19:40:43 CST
Xertog I am happy to mentor any FW,,, I am hesitant to mentor a FM, but I am always open to any who ask
IMO the issue is most Free do not wish to learn, yet I consider that Fre should know as much as slaves.. heck the information is readily available on the web site ..just my opinion
DoubleBlade 19:40:59 CST
Nods in agreement with orli
Deirdre 19:42:26 CST
I think that either option is good, Captain Xertog. But there has to be open discussion between the two parties involved to make sure that the commitment level between the two of them is the same. BOTH have to be willing to work/learn.
Xertog 19:43:15 CST
orli there was a time when I liked the GC format. But I found that very few people knew that the mentor were available or where the list of where the mentors was. I think a proactive approach is what is needed.
orli_{GS}~t 19:43:33 CST
orli was a mentor for a BDSM site many yrs ago
and it always worked best if the person seeking
the help was assigned to one person, sure they
could go to anyone of the mentors if the assigned
mentor was not around.....but there was at least
one person monitoring the progress so to speak
Laroona 19:44:16 CST
of late I have seen many greet slaves before slave enters...
or greet slaves before free as an examples
a mentor would and could help this *S*
orli_{GS}~t 19:45:08 CST
*agrees with Mistress Deirdre~
*turns to Master Xertog~
could there not be a place or even a thread started on the corks where those who are WILLING to mentor could place their name and contact information?
Xertog 19:46:41 CST
Yes that is important Deirdre. It reminds me of the bumper sticker 'They can send me to college but they can't make me think'
We can hook slaves up with trainers and Free up with mentors but there isn't a lot we can do if they don't want to learn.
DoubleBlade 19:46:51 CST
I agree especially for new members most Gor chat site demands that a newbie must get one before they can be accepted
orli_{GS}~t 19:46:58 CST
or even a page added to the information pages
but yes Mistress Laroona...the info is all there
it just needs to be read
*blushes at her bold statement, but its the truth~
Laroona 19:47:37 CST
Xertog did many take up on that system?
another way would be to have on pledge page a M next to a name rather like the t next to slaves indicating trainer
Xertog 19:48:06 CST
We still need a scribe for tonights forum.
Xertog 19:49:19 CST
Yes orli a post can be made.
Deirdre 19:49:46 CST
*nodding to Xertog*
The thing that I remember most about the GC boards system was how very confusing I found it. I never got the hang of it at all.
Laroona 19:51:19 CST
Dei I believe few knew how or who to contact
if one was allocated then I feel it could work
but needs to be established by say a Captain...
Xertog 19:51:23 CST
Do you mean the GC mentor system Laroona? I thought it was poorly used.
Laroona 19:52:11 CST
Yes Xertog I agree *S*
Laroona 19:54:33 CST
I am happy to maintain a page, but if a post is made asking for volunteers I am happy to say add a M next to names etc..
plus make a mentor page list so there is no doubt *S*
Xertog 19:54:43 CST
Deirdre lucky we have a talented Scribe in Laroona. Getting Gary to transfer her work to the pages he maintains for us has been a challenge though.
bahi{RD} 19:54:47 CST
Would the mentoring be basically directed toward the rp protocols? Or in other areas also?
Xertog 19:56:21 CST
bahi I see no reason to limit it to any one area.
Laroona 19:56:49 CST
I would like to think first off be the protocols and rules of GS including slave rules.... those are the basics...
Laroona 19:59:53 CST
thank you Xertog I am still getting to the slave pages *S*
bahi{RD} 20:00:23 CST
Thank you
A thought.. while the base rules on protocols would of course take precedent.. it seems at times the basic lack of understanding for the Gorean environment and mindset is what appears to be more the root issue.. imho of course
MENTORING TAVERN SLAVES
Xertog 20:02:20 CST
In the thread on the message board about this topic this was also suggested by jessi:
this girl was speaking to a Captain a few weeks ago and put forward an idea of willing Master's to mentor Tavern slaves... these girls will still remain the property of GS but at least have some guidence and accountablilty to a single Master (as always, accountability will ultimately lie with the Captains) a common challenge that jessi has found for herself and has spoken with other tavern slaves that feel the same way is that they feel aimless in their slavery... merely meat there to serve and fur with no other point and no other purpose. This one knows that we are here to please the Free but when this is all we are faced with how is motivation and passion for slavery meant to be kept alive in a girl?
Is this a viable option?
Laroona 20:03:23 CST
bahi I think that could be learnt along the way ... but then we cannot force ppl to learn except the slaves of course *S*
I agree with you *S*
Laroona 20:05:05 CST
Xertog is that a new topic?
as I feel that is a different issue *S
Xertog 20:07:15 CST
It is sort of is a different issue although related. Did I move along too fast? If so we can hold off on this till the other runs its course.
bahi{RD} 20:09:13 CST
When i first landed here it was terribly confusing. Protocols being tossed from every direction. KNowing where to apply what even more difficult to reason. And that was because it was like the cart before the horse. How do you know how to drive the cart if you only have direction to the horse. It was difficult to find people that would address the more base concepts without heading immediately back to a long list of rules. And that can be very frustrating.. and maybe.. even sort of set people off from battering their heads to figure out the whys of all those rules??
Xertog 20:11:12 CST
How do you suggest resolving that bahi?
Zoran 20:12:33 CST
it a good idea Xertog
it would help in non confusing idea in my idea and help if one need to be talk to
just my 2 bits
Laroona 20:13:33 CST
I am going to be blunt here, we just spoke about mentoring Free, and therefore it begs the question how can we allocate slaves to some Free? How long they have been in GS? How gorean they are? Or is this saying that trainers are not good enough? Is there a problem with trainers? Or is this a way to hasten slaves into personal collars?
Or do those mentoring have the double load of mentoring a slave?
bahi{RD} 20:14:43 CST
well, perhaps reversing the approach.. possibly open discussions.. maybe even here.. about Gorean life in general.. and open to both Free and slaves.. and possibly requiring all persons wishing to become a part of GS to attend a for a certain time
DoubleBlade 20:15:45 CST
I suggest that we should screen the prospects and pair them off as the councel sees fit
Zoran 20:15:54 CST
smiles and nods to Ramses
Laroona I see them as a helper to the form of a new slave not as ploy to get more slaves
bahi{RD} 20:17:00 CST
~ smiles to the arriving Masters and whispers her greetings~
Xertog 20:17:08 CST
Are you suggesting a mandated class for new Free that come to GS bahi?
Laroona 20:17:09 CST
but GS has allocated trainers and a Slavemaster so why?
bahi{RD} 20:18:54 CST
well, guesses i am Master
Laroona 20:19:31 CST
and how often would this happen\? would the slave need to be present when their allocated Free is or not?
I see too many issues will arise from this suggestion
dove{GS} 20:19:39 CST
~listens...thinking several have good ideas...
Deirdre 20:21:05 CST
Xertog.....I can completely understand why bahi would feel that way. I get very frustrated when the situation happens that newer folks get in.....stir things up.......cause some problems (not everyone new, I understand).....and they aren't part of the forum process.....where they can actually learn the ins and outs. Many of Them come in thinking that they know enough when they sooooo don't.
Zoran 20:21:05 CST
Laroona I just see them as a mentor to help the slave Master and the trainers
is what I see
hell Laroon I know you do it now and a pretty good job of it
bahi{RD} 20:21:21 CST
wasn't thinking in terms of actual training classes.. more along the lines of discussion forums where people new to Gor have the ability to gleen a little better understanding.. which makes it easier to understand the whys and applications of the protocols
emerald{Rm} 20:21:39 CST
~shakes her head sadly~ em has seen this tried in several other sites and venues..the intentions are good but Some just don't wish to learn...
Zoran 20:22:17 CST
I know when I first came in Rast and Paduer were mentors to me
dove{GS} 20:23:07 CST
thinks bahi has a good point..
should offer something....in case people want to learn..
free to come to discuss...
but wonders still how many would really be interested in coming...knowing...dove would...tried...with little response..
Ramses 20:23:25 CST
there is some merit in what bahi suggests
I have often wondered if Masters, for instance, should have to pass a simple test before pledging?
Laroona 20:23:56 CST
I believe every Free should be helping slaves and other Free
that is why we Pledge do we not to make others feel at home, to help in the growth
DoubleBlade 20:24:32 CST
Nods in agreement with dove and bahi
emerald{Rm} 20:24:49 CST
T/those who wish to learn will seek help and T/those who don't will eventually grow bored or end up banned
Laroona 20:25:37 CST
so maybe toss this out'
what about setting aside one Forum day per month for discussion and have set topics?
Xertog 20:25:39 CST
I have heard this raised several times by different people. I recognize the problem I'm not sure if that is a workable solution. Because if they think they know enough as you said Deirdre they won't think they need to attend a class.
I think that one on one mentorship is a lot more workable.
Zoran 20:25:56 CST
but if certian ones were made to be known as helpers to Gor I think it be good
you know Laroona some of are Pledges are more helpfull then others
Deirdre 20:26:03 CST
Laroona.....I agree with You. In a perfect Gorean world all Free would be helping new Ffolks. But......and here lies the "rub"......I don't want new Free who "think" They know proper Gorean protocol passing on bad/incorrect information.
DoubleBlade 20:26:26 CST
I know some things of Gor and the lifestyle. Yet there is more to be learned and i think that should work
Laroona 20:26:40 CST
emerald or end up being known as "fur hounds"
bahi{RD} 20:27:38 CST
while thats true em.. most that are already familiar with Gor will basically direct any help to the rp aspects.. not the understanding of the reasons behind.. at least thats what i found
dove{GS} 20:28:07 CST
well..at least give the opportunity to those who wish to learn more..right now...
some may see there is no one...place to go to in order to feel free to ask questions and learn more~
presses lips to a curl...offering a soft smile...
Zoran 20:28:31 CST
whooooooooooooooooooooooo as I here fur hounds
lol
what are furs for? inocennnt look(trying not to smirk)
Ramses 20:28:52 CST
*nods to dove* .. a good point
dove{GS} 20:29:14 CST
raises her brows..wondering just what Mistress Laroona means...~
shrugs...thinking innocent thoughts..twisting blondes gently between her tips
emerald{Rm} 20:29:15 CST
~laughs~...hmmm...furhounds..now em knows what to call Them
Kristian 20:29:39 CST
wasn't mentoring tried before, with little interest shown
Laroona 20:30:41 CST
well I was trying to be nice LOL
some who only enter Gor knowing they can cyber slaves any time, because slave MUST obey
Xertog 20:31:03 CST
It may have been discussed before Kristian but nothing was ever put in place.
Zoran 20:31:51 CST
they must obey grins
well
Ramses 20:31:58 CST
that was My recollection as well Xertog
bahi{RD} 20:33:06 CST
Well, that could be addressed also..
What's wrong with the line of thinking that says:
GS is good enough we want the best. And for that reason we have certain requirements for any that wish to call this home. And possibly not make use of the slaves here available to anyone that has a capped name that wanders in
Ramses 20:33:28 CST
still than something more along lines of formal mentoring might work and help
Laroona 20:34:59 CST
I am sorry folks but too many see gor as a cbyer sex cafe...
and have no other thought or concept in mind.... they know enough to enter to get their jollies
emerald{Rm} 20:35:05 CST
but once must remember also bahi, that E/everyone has to start somewhere...and being unkind or abrupt to new P/people will not kelp O/our Home grow
bahi{RD} 20:35:51 CST
That only happens in GS if it's allowed.. imho
Laroona 20:36:15 CST
well said emerald *S*
DoubleBlade 20:37:00 CST
i agrre with em when i first entered this site as a guest em,Ramses and others welcomed in not know who i was or why i came
Xertog 20:37:17 CST
bahi that is why I restrict my girls to pledged patrons and why I have told people that I'd like to get to know them before I'd accept their pledge.
Laroona 20:37:31 CST
bahi so slave have choices is that what you mean 'or does Council say OK only sexual serves to pledged
not a good way to get more members *S*
Deirdre 20:37:52 CST
*nodding to Laroona*
You are absolutely right. That is why bahi's suggestion has a lot of merit, in My opinion.
As a FW I would not mind showing My knowlege of Gor....or lack thereof....
Pledging wouldn't be so easy, of course.....but it would mean that the Ffolks that come to be with Us know what the heck they are doing here.
Zoran 20:37:56 CST
well I have seen that most of the Master slut of GS leave or are ask to leave lol
bahi{RD} 20:38:04 CST
Not sayi8ng anything about being unkind or abrupt em.. having expectations of people isn't unkind.. it's just realistic
And offering some way for people to have a time to learn a little abotu what it is their venturing in might well also be seen as a kindness.. Beats getting hammered in public for slips that happen as a result of not having the ability to learn of Gor thru osmosis
persian {GS} 20:38:19 CST
Master Xertog... this thing thanks You for Your help lately...
bahi{RD} 20:39:19 CST
well, then it becomes a matter of quality vs quantity
bahi{RD} 20:40:07 CST
and was saying perhaps the Council should place limits on the use of the slaves of GS
Zoran 20:40:12 CST
but most good Master ask for help from what I seen
Ramses 20:40:57 CST
*G*
I don't dare restrict em! *LOL*
and it is also worth noting that every once in a while today's HNG is tomorrows Pledge
Deirdre 20:41:16 CST
Almost 8 years ago I was "mentored" about Gor by Bloodbeast and by Phen. It was so very valuable to Me. I listened.....I read......I learned through the mistakes that I made. It made Me grow as a Person. It also made Me value the pledge that I gave later on.
dove{GS} 20:41:29 CST
nods~ seems like little else sometimes...
agreeing with bahi on the topic in general..
persian {GS} 20:41:16 CST
~curls up listening.... not sure she walked into.~
Ramses 20:42:12 CST
persian, healthy discusion only
*S*
thats all you have walked into
and feel free to participate
Zoran 20:42:27 CST
LOl if you resricted her you be introuble with that one Ramses
emerald{Rm} 20:43:28 CST
~grins at her Master then winks~...Master likes the extra chaching the HNG's produce too...
bahi{RD} 20:43:29 CST
Very true Master Ramses.. but that also meant Gor drew at them.. beyond their breeches
~ grins~
Deirdre 20:43:54 CST
*grinning at bahi*
I was "hammered" too, honey. I will never forget when JustBad threatened to facestrip Me because I greeted Him by saying....."Tal M'Lord". *laughing hard* Thank the Priest Kings that Kyoto was there to deal with Him, and to talk to Me when I walked off to a different room in a total huff after telling JustBad to kiss My patootie.
bahi{RD} 20:45:23 CST
~ snickers ~ that had to have been.. errmm.. quite a way to learn lol
Ramses 20:45:36 CST
bahi
speaking from personal experience
it happens .. *S*
~segen~ 20:45:52 CST
Would You let any Man, even one You had NO KNOWLEGE of...and no idea if He had any understanding of respecting Your property and gorean princapels...use Your treasure??
Ramses 20:46:18 CST
Zoran, I think she would burst! *L*
Deirdre 20:46:33 CST
*grinning at bahi and nodding*
It was VERY effective. I learned the proper way to greet a Gorean FM......and I think He learned a bit from that also.
*chuckling*
bahi{RD} 20:47:11 CST
Would those HNG's be put off if more was offered beyond just rolls in the furs Master? Would that send them packing immediatly?
Zoran 20:47:35 CST
if she was a red silk then yes as she know how to handle her self
but if all case if he get out of line then it is his ass LOl
if he is a Master then he must back his actions
DoubleBlade 20:47:55 CST
reminds himself to never get Dei angry
Ramses 20:48:04 CST
learning for Me is almost always double sided Deidre
I often learn as I correct and teach
Ramses 20:48:56 CST
bahi, some might .. some won't ..*G*
Laroona 20:48:57 CST
so a HNG enters and damages your slave
comes back for another slave the next day
'what would you do?
Deirdre 20:49:00 CST
*grinning at DoubleBlade*
Do not worry, Friend. I have learned a lot since then.
~segen~ 20:49:06 CST
That's the problem, how many of the men that come trolling ARE Masters?? and if they are not, WHY should a slave be exzpedted to spread her thighs and writhe with "pleasur"
Zoran 20:49:16 CST
lol I agree Ramses
Xertog 20:49:31 CST
That's very true Ramses about it being doubles sided.
DoubleBlade 20:49:51 CST
beg your pardon Laroona what does HNG mean
Zoran 20:50:44 CST
lol Double Blade I miss spelled Diedre name once lol were just now friends lol
bahi{RD} 20:51:07 CST
Textbook response segen? because sh's a slave and thats what she accepts as part of her lot in life during the time she's in Gor
Ramses 20:51:56 CST
Zoran
I misspelled it once too
she was QUICK to correct Me
I DOUBLE check every time I type it to this day! *LOL*
Zoran 20:51:56 CST
that were cut and Paste comes in segen
and the Master will find out what his action lead to
Deirdre 20:51:57 CST
*laughing at Zoran....and nodding......knowing that He speaks the truth*
Laroona 20:52:24 CST
Ramses so saying hey buster that is not right you owe me
and then teaching him gor?
or have you killed a potential member?
~segen~ 20:53:05 CST
bahi, slaves on gor served MASTERS..all men were MASTERS...that is NOT how it is here...so there is no textbook on this that i could figure. Here there are trollers and 18 year olds looking to jerk off...figuring they that slaves can't say no so they use it...that's not gorean...
Deirdre 20:53:06 CST
*rolling My eyes at Zoran AND Ramses*
C'mon Fellas.......I'm not THAT bad. I just......well.......I like My name spelled right.
*grinning*
Ramses 20:53:19 CST
perhaps I ahev Laroona
*L*
but they are not ALL salveagelable ...*G*
~segen~ 20:53:47 CST
Master Zoran, it's too late if He slits Your girl's throat...hard to fix that one, if He was an idiot...huh?
Zoran 20:53:51 CST
if he want the right of a Master then he might get the right of my Sword as well LOl
Zoran 20:54:49 CST
segen if it was done out of rp by an no body well it just got revoke by the council segen
then he be delt with
Ramses 20:55:19 CST
ok all
My girl needs to show Me that she has completed an assignment before both run out of time tonight
I wish you all well
em .. heel Me to the Tavern
Laroona 20:55:28 CST
ahh but Council rule on all deaths in GS
LOL
~segen~ 20:55:35 CST
Master Zoran, in the tavern, wether she "earned" it or not...it's within role play to kill a slave...we are chattle remember...how do you fix that?
bahi{RD} 20:55:59 CST
which is exactly why segen i had mentioned earlier that pssibly the use of the slaves not be quite as open to any that happened to wander in as it is
if there is a use policy in place.. it keeps the slave out of being in a bad position.. and sets a certain tone for GS at the same time.. while not making it this weeks newest chruch setting either
dove{GS} 20:56:11 CST
yes..bahi and segen..both right..
so how can it be fixed..??
bahi offered suggestions to limit slave use..have discussion groups..
dove is personally tired of servicing any Man who calls himself a Master...but..is her life...right?? as a slave??
no...
emerald{Rm} 20:56:24 CST
~rising, tossing her copper tresses smiling to the Free as she heels her Master from the room~
DoubleBlade 20:56:27 CST
I have not yet a male slave do you not accept them or do they come in acting like FM
Zoran 20:56:57 CST
segen as you heard a death can only be called by council
yes you are slave and property and some take better care of there property then others
it is the life of a slave shrugs
Ramses 20:57:15 CST
bahi
you've made some very good points
I don't really disagree despite how it might appear
~segen~ 20:57:40 CST
dove, no, it's your lot in life to serve Masters...not fuckheads...
bahi...well what's wrong with that idea. It would even encourage more girls to collar, as they would have protection (limitations on furring) where barenecks like me would have none...
Deirdre 20:58:00 CST
DoubleBlade........Lady Kha has a male slave. valmir. he follows most of the same protocols as the female slaves........though he doesn't show heat....
Laroona 20:58:57 CST
LOl DoubleBlade you have not seen me in action with some then LOL
~segen~ 20:59:03 CST
Master Zoran..it is the life of a gorean slave to serve Masters...not all Men...but Masters! There is a HUGE difference...to segen..mayhap not to You and it is Your choice if You let any use Your girl..but if segen were an owner, she would not do so...she'd only wish people that respected the lifestyle segen chose and would take care not to damage what segen could sell later if she wished..
Zoran 20:59:15 CST
sit back to listen for a second
Laroona 21:00:05 CST
segen slaves MUST serve a Free... simple
Orion 21:00:17 CST
dove, unfortunantly as a slave and girl owned by the Captain's, it IS expected that you WILL see that ANY and ALL Free Men that visit our home are pleased and tended to. I guess the only REAL way to keep you from being "used' by just ANY cyber sex freak is to be owned by someone personally and have the restrictions placed on you or any other girl as others have done, that you may be used ONLY by those pledged to GS as a whole.. OUTSIDE of that, there is no real way to stop it from happening hun.
Laroona 21:00:54 CST
segen so you say you judge who is a Master and who is not
is this what I hear?
Zoran 21:00:54 CST
segen as Master it is my wishes
as I known my slave is smart enought to be well smart is the word
and all men are Master some are just good at it some are not
segen~ 21:01:10 CST
Mistress Laroona, segen will respectfully disagree...a gorean slave's job is to please Men..Men on gor were Masters...not all men...but that is segen...
DoubleBlade 21:01:58 CST
I'd be afraid to Laroona *L*
DoubleBlade 21:01:24 CST
I see a DEIDRE a slave who does not serve with heart mind and soul should be dealt with fast and clean
segen~ 21:02:20 CST
Mistress Laroona, where did she say that? Are You telling her that all Men You have met that capped their name are infact Masters???
Master Zoran, segen disagrees..not all men are Masters..not in vt and not in rt...
dove{GS} 21:02:46 CST
nods..
hearing Mistress Laroona..and Jarl Orion..
knowing it to be true..and what burns in her belly..
having done so on.....numerous occasions...as she is commanded...of course...
even if she just meet the 'Master' and no one else ever even heard of Him..
doesn't mean He'll come back..but has seen a few return and pledge....
laffs gently...
feeling a pang..in her heart..
Laroona 21:03:44 CST
segen so a new Free man entering is NOT to be pleased?
Zoran 21:03:47 CST
Segen in rt I agree but in the world Of Gor yes all Men are all Master like I said some are good at it othere are not
segen~ 21:04:42 CST
Mistress Laroona, didn't say that either..~tilts her head~ she said not all Men are Masters..plain and simple...
Master Zoran, again she will disagree...*shrugs*
orli_{GS}~t 21:05:47 CST
orli wishes to thank You Master Xertog for leading tonights forum
thank you to the Scribes *ss~
DoubleBlade 21:05:56 CST
I agree with Zoran i may not be the best in the Free man's way but that is whati call live and learn from our own mistakes
dove{GS} 21:05:59 CST
dove has been forced to please Masters...who are obviously Bdsm...not Gorean...more often it seems...
she knows it...
and struggles to help them walk the line...as they will never stop wanting what they want...
Zoran 21:06:14 CST
a very good Forum Xertog
Laroona 21:06:49 CST
segen true but then as was said
many start new so who is to judge or should we say go away you are not gorean or masterly enough for me?
~segen~ 21:06:42 CST
Master DoubleBlade and because we are slaves it is okay to learn at a slave's expense??
sha'reen{Xg-L} 21:06:28 CST
lifts her eyes gently to Master
"Thank You Master for doing an awesome job leading forum"
purrrs gently
Deirdre 21:06:59 CST
This has been a very thought-provoking forum. It was AWESOME. There were lots of different trains of thought......and Wwe listened and learned. That's how every forum should be, in My opinion.
Thank You, Captain Xertog, for mediating.
Thank You, Laroona, for scribing.
dove{GS} 21:11:36 CST
yes Master...~
but it does not prevent it from happening...often..
and a slave..ends up...used and disguarded...a Gorean Master...would acknowledge her training..seek to see more of it...even in use..
~segen~ 21:11:20 CST
Throwing the slaves to the wind, and letting crap fly where it may, is not going to help the site to work and progress...
However, that's just segen's perspective
DoubleBlade 21:11:10 CST
Thanks Laroona for scribeing this night
DoubleBlade 21:10:35 CST
I know but we all must work together to make this site work and progress to be a site everyone can come to
Orion 21:08:39 CST
dove, I have ALWAYS tried to make sure that the girls are treated according to the books based on Gor. SOME Men that come here are simply BDSM "Masters" who think that Gor and BDSM are the same. THAT is why I am one of the first ones to let a Male know that this is NOT a BDSM room and that our girls are NOT just some simple tool to be f**ked and left out to dry. Yes, you ARE here to be found pleasing and to please but it is ANOTHER thing to be abused and disgarded like trash. EVEN as a silk girl, you should have SOME sence of respect given to the amount of training you have went through via the trainers here in GS or elsewhere. To not at respect THAT, it is a SLAP in the face of the Captain's that own you, the girls and FW that have seen to your training, and to YOU have put in the long hours of personal time that could have been spent ELSE where but you were here training insted.. (HOPES that came out right)
aurora{Xg-L}-t 21:18:39 CST
*smiles~ when a tavern slave reaches the point where she no longer feels challenged ~ strives to maintain her slavery and grow ~ sighs...unfortunately many of the kajira in years past have to take that step out there on their own ~if it is in their hearts they struggle lots ~but they survive...many kajira that have been tavern slaves for years can attest to that ~a girl struggles to learn on her own~with her sisters in bondage..
much of what bahi, jessi and others have been saying is very true
it would help if there were more direction ~more challenges...more more of something ~looks to orli and smiles
Deirdre 21:21:58 CST
*standing and moving to exit*
I think that basically Wwe are Aall saying the same thing. Wwe Aall want the same thing. Quality in GS. Wwe just need to learn to actually listen to each Oother better.......regardless of station.
Xertog 21:04:52 CST
Seeing the time.. I'm calling the forum to an end.. Thank you all for attending..
Laroona 21:09:41 CST
anyone want to save any more words feel free
I have scribed enough