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Rollo the Ax 19:10:53 pm CST

Welcome everybody to this weeks edition of the GS forum.... we will follow the same rules as always... everybody gets to have their say...even slaves, as long as it is done in a respectful manner.. once we start, keep the personal chit chat and greetings and such in WHISPERS so as to take some of the burden off of the scribes... anybody with a topic, question, or anything they wish to discuss, PM it to ME, and I will bring them up as time allows.. Okay ??? lets begin......

 

Rollo the Ax 19:12:29 pm CST

I have not been here in a few weeks, are there any carry over topics that need addressed ???

 

Laroona 19:13:03 pm CST

Captain Rollo not any listed *S*

 

SERVING BEFORE FORUM

Rollo the Ax 19:14:06 pm CST

Okay... our first topic..Serving before forums, should it be limited to harta serves ie 30 ehns before forum is due to commence, the same as it is at slave class? Or should this be a Council decision?

 

Laroona 19:15:38 pm CST

IMO opinion Captain ultimately I believe it would be a Council decision 

but on the other hand why should slaves be restricted from entering the forum because she is serving

 

vina{GS} 19:15:45 pm CST

well, in this girl's opinion...she believes with it being Forum night, it would be at One's own discretion because Forum is not mandatory is it?

 

nassy{GS} 19:16:57 pm CST

most that come on Sunday nights come here for Forum even if not mandatory it is also informative...nassy thinks Mistress Laroona is correct

 

Laroona 19:17:27 pm CST

vina correct 

not mandatory, but a lot of things are learnt from the discussions 

I know I have learnt a lot from them

 

vina{GS} 19:18:13 pm CST

this one would agree that yes, one could learn immensely from the Forums...but are they not posted as well?

 

Laroona 19:19:31 pm CST

and what if the Scribes or there is no one to scribe and the notes are not put up... has happened in the past

 

Rollo the Ax 19:20:31 pm CST

Okay... lets try some plain old common sense here.... yes, in the long run, it may well end up being a Council decision...and simply because sooner or later somebody will not use their good sense to do this simply because it is the RIGHT thing to do...

 

vina{GS} 19:20:59 pm CST

it would be a loss for the person who didn't make it... which leads this one back to her main point...Forums are not mandatory, so if there was a Master or Mistress who wished to be served before it started......wouldn't it be up to them ?

 

Laroona 19:23:19 pm CST

Frankly there have been times lately I have felt like tossing the scribing to ppl constantly interrupting.. and then being abused for daring to say something 

I am not tolerating that behavior much longer 

Free of GS should have more respect for the reason for the forums and those who scribe..... IMO

 

vina{GS} 19:24:41 pm CST

this one does not understand...she apologizes if she has interrupted

 

Rollo the Ax 19:25:14 pm CST

Ultimately, is that not the reason ANY law or rule is made ?? when the individual... any individual .. does not hold themselves to the proper action or responsibilities, then it falls to the powers that be to make RULES to enforce what should be the proper actions for others

 

Laroona 19:25:38 pm CST

vina *S* 

there is a difference between greeting, entry posts etc than a person discussing a topic *S*

 

nassy{GS} 19:26:02 pm CST

nodding her head aye Master Rollo

 

Laroona 19:27:09 pm CST

I have digressed from the topic 

I am trying to say why there also maybe no notes put up

 

vina{GS} 19:27:56 pm CST

yes Mistress, this one ..it is easy to confuse this girl

 

PAX 19:28:49 pm CST

Question if I may? Being new to the Forum is there a record posted? so I may read the past Forums

 

aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:29:16 pm CST

will get You the link Master Pax

 

Laroona 19:30:20 pm CST

((geesh lost my post)) 

vina we all get confused at times 

Pax they are always up on the GS website angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/info.html 

add http.//www in front when the browser opens *S

 

Rollo the Ax 19:30:49 pm CST

My point exactly.... master A or Mistress B wants a cyber drink because THEY don;t want to come t the forum, so they want to make some slave stay there and serve them ??? what if the slave wanted to come to the forum ??? tough shit ??? then in MY opinion, such a free is simply showing that THEY are petty, shallow, and not worthy of the position as a free person......

 

aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:30:49 pm CST

angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/2008Forums/2008.html

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/Captain of GS 19:31:23 pm CST

rubbing my chin ,, my inclination is to ask patrons to follow the same idea as asking for harta serves in the 30 ehn before forum ,, and make a rule if there is abuse

 

rhian{GS}t 19:31:29 pm CST

some more than others get confused, Mistress *smiles*

 

vina{GS} 19:31:41 pm CST

but what if the Free doesn't wish to hurt the girl's feelings...

 

undine [Lord Blue] chain to kitty 19:32:53 pm CST

perhaps we could have a slave stay a bit longer to serve in the tavern till maybe 10 past forum time...girl cant see any reason to leave the tavern unattended especially with the home rebuilding

 

rhian{GS}t 19:33:21 pm CST

rhian thinks that it should be like slave class. 30 ehn before only harta serves, so that at the time of forum, one will be free to come to the forum if they wish to

 

Laroona 19:33:38 pm CST

some consider because they are Free they can do as they please 

sorry I do not concur with that at times 

the forums are for all of GS and other interested ppl

 

vina{GS} 19:34:18 pm CST

but....it is not mandatory to be here

 

kitty {LB-CC} chain to undine 19:35:39 pm CST

nods in agreement

 

Laroona 19:36:04 pm CST

IMO I consider it appropriate to offer a harta serve within 30 ehns before Froum that way options are open to attend or not attend

 

rhian{GS}t 19:36:16 pm CST

girl thinks that Any who enter on a forum night and are not familiar with the forum would see the room full and come to this one instead of the Tavern, but that is just girl's opinion

 

aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:36:21 pm CST

forum is not only an opportunity for Free 

it is in place to allow slaves to express themselves freely 

its an opportunity to learn about Gor and 

hear of important discussions that take place with the Captains 

its important for slaves to be here rather than serve at that time

 

aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:37:05 pm CST

vina, its not mandatory of you to be anywhere 

but it is out of respect for your owners and your home 

and that in itself shouldnt be questioned

 

Laroona 19:37:18 pm CST

well said aurora *S*

 

Laroona 19:38:09 pm CST

my comment was to aurora's first post

 

vina{GS} 19:38:34 pm CST

nods...

 

Laroona 19:39:01 pm CST

undine rebuilding is fine and good, but then it is also an opportunity for those Free to get to know others in GS

 

Rollo the Ax 19:39:43 pm CST

I just lost a long post... oh well, shit happens....

 

undine [Lord Blue] chain to kitty 19:39:48 pm CST

nods..true

 

rhian{GS}t 19:40:01 pm CST

one can learn a lot about GS by attending the Forum. it's what helps to shape GS in girl's opinion.

 

Laroona 19:40:16 pm CST

Captain seems the little urts are rife tonight

 

galah{RA} 19:40:31 pm CST

i agree with aurora too, slaves can serve the other 6 days of the week, forum is only once a week for two ahns, slaves should be able to attend and should attend whenever possible

 

vina{GS} 19:40:44 pm CST

this one is not disputing that fact...she is merely pointing out that if she were in a serve, she would come here...or remain in service to the Free who wishes her company

 

rhian{GS}t 19:40:51 pm CST

that's exactly what rhian was thinking, Mistress *giggles* nasty urts anyway

 

Laroona 19:40:54 pm CST

and they learn the FW Laroona has a big mouth LOL

 

nassy{GS} 19:41:31 pm CST

nassy uses the Forum to learn as aurora stated...she also views it as a chance for Masters/Mistress's and slaves to interact with respect to learn more about each other...to honor her Owners she tries to be here when her real time allows and would prefer to that the serves be in harta from 30 ehns before Forum...

 

Laroona 19:43:27 pm CST

thank goodness for spell check before the notes are put up LOL

 

Laroona 19:44:42 pm CST

rhian as long as they do not nibble at my hems LOL

 

rhian{GS}t 19:44:42 pm CST

*grins* saves You on typists, Mistress. the canal is getting pretty full

 

galah{RA} 19:44:43 pm CST

i can't see this being a problem if your talking about serving a drink, but what if ones in the middle of a sexual serve? can see that being a problem hehehehee

 

rhian{GS}t 19:45:08 pm CST

isn't that rhian's job, Mistress *smiles sweetly*

 

vina{GS} 19:46:20 pm CST

while this one does agrees with all of you....she is merely pointing out that it isn't mandatory to be here...so it should be optional...she has not stayed to serve until this night and she was right in the middle of it... 30 seconds is fast for this one to type and condense it down... but she will give it all her heart...she means no disrespect to her Home at all...she truly loves it here and she wishes to not give the impression that she is disrespectful...

 

rhian{GS}t 19:46:33 pm CST

*laughs* girl can see how that might be a problem, galah

 

galah{RA} 19:48:14 pm CST

**looks to rhian and giggles** eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwww ahhhhh feels good Master, may girl please leave for forum? Heheheheheheeeee

 

Rollo the Ax 19:48:21 pm CST

This is getting beyond a joke... I keep getting urted....

 

nassy{GS} 19:48:23 pm CST

the thoughts running her thread with galah's post of sexual service...

 

Laroona 19:49:00 pm CST

**covers my ears**

 

galah{RA} 19:49:08 pm CST

gal agrees with Master, some common sense goes along ways hehehehehehe

 

rhian{GS}t 19:49:35 pm CST

*tears stream down her cheeks as she tries to hold the laughter in* that's just bad, galah

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/Captain of GS 19:49:44 pm CST

chuckling at galah's words

 

Rollo the Ax 19:50:01 pm CST

everything is optional.... being here at forum... being here in GS...... doing what is right....

 

vina{GS} 19:50:51 pm CST

yes Master...

 

rhian{GS}t 19:51:27 pm CST

but some of us would not trade being here for the world, Master Rollo *a happy sigh escaping her sweet lips*

 

galah{RA} 19:51:28 pm CST

i know rhian, hehehehheeeee couldn't help myself, when i'm good i'm bad, but when i'm bad, i'm terrific hehehehhee

 

Rollo the Ax 19:52:08 pm CST

Until such time as the Council makes some rule saying that if any GS owned slave is online during the forum time, she MUST be here, it is still all optional.. a personal choice......

 

vina{GS} 19:52:44 pm CST

yes Master

 

nassy{GS} 19:52:55 pm CST

yes Master

 

Laroona 19:53:34 pm CST

I think we all make the choice to be here when and if possible 

GS is in our blood

 

galah{RA} 19:53:47 pm CST

usually....a girl only needs to beg a harta serve or being released from service to come to forum...not many i know of would deny such a plea

 

rhian{GS}t 19:56:42 pm CST

so one would need a blood transfusion to leave GS, Mistress?

 

Laroona 19:58:12 pm CST

rhian something like that LOL

 

galah{RA} 20:03:01 pm CST

**listens to the sounds of silence**

 

Rollo the Ax 19:55:56 pm CST

Okay then... we seem to have beat that topic plum to death.... any other topics or questions ???

 

TO BE A FREE OR A SLAVE?

Rollo the Ax 20:03:02 pm CST

Okay... here is one for you.... Which came first ?? the chicken or the egg ??? and in a Gorean context, how is it that people here choose their characters ?? I mean, for women, many choose to be slave, but would not be so in RT... but most guys go for Master, when in fact they are NOT that type of man... why is it so ?????

 

rhian{GS}t 20:04:09 pm CST

*grins* actually the egg came first because dinosaurs laid eggs and they came before chickens.

 

galah{RA} 20:05:06 pm CST

well, for one thing, boys that do find themselves like slaves, quickly learn they are not welcome by the Masters here

 

rhian{GS}t 20:05:27 pm CST

rhian thinks it may be for the excitement or an inner wish that they could be that type of person and are not permitted it real time

 

Laroona 20:06:11 pm CST

that is true galah, it is an insult to a gorean male to be subservient

 

undine [Lord Blue] chain to kitty 20:06:11 pm CST

undine is slave RT so...stands to reason

 

nassy{GS} 20:07:01 pm CST

this girl is a submissive personality in her real time...and the job she works in is an admin assistant/tech....so she is a slave to her work and her hubby....

 

rhian{GS}t 20:07:05 pm CST

*nods in agreement with galah* personally, rhian is unsure of how she is supposed to treat a male slave.

 

galah{RA} 20:07:26 pm CST

some strong dominating kinda women come in as slaves to see what it would be like to be at the Masters feet, but i think that most slaves are the submissive types that wanna have that life and not be pushed into being a dominant female in the outside world as it is where women hold positions that use to be for men only

 

Laroona 20:08:36 pm CST

I have had a male enter and his inner struggle is to be kajirus, but he also is scared that he is made unwelcome as a slave of GS... so he is in a quandary

 

rhian{GS}t 20:08:54 pm CST

welcome back, Master Rollo *looks around for urts with a shudder*

 

kitty {LB-CC} chain to undine 20:09:04 pm CST

this girl is also a slave in RT. But this girl thinks that many females find that they wish to be a slave is the burning desire to totally serve Master without question

 

PAX 20:10:15 pm CST

My thought is a have a problem with male subs/slaves why? not sure can A/any explain it to Me ?

 

galah{RA} 20:10:17 pm CST

most boy slaves don't last on gor, they find more empathy in a BDSM room perhaps? and some just give it up and come in as a FM, but its so obvious to a slave girl that he is not a Masterly type

 

Laroona 20:11:25 pm CST

in RT I have to be strong.... 

therefore I am a FW 

a role I actually enjoy, as I can also help others behind the scenes

 

undine [Lord Blue] chain to kitty 20:11:29 pm CST

nods to galah...exactly

 

Rollo the Ax 20:11:37 pm CST

LOL..LOL.. okay rhian, if so, which dinosaur laid the first chicken egg ???

 

kitty {LB-CC} chain to undine 20:12:17 pm CST

This girl also agrees with galah

 

rhian{GS}t 20:12:20 pm CST

a very ugly one, Master *smiles*

 

undine [Lord Blue] chain to kitty 20:12:48 pm CST

the chicadour?

 

aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:12:49 pm CST

but most guys go for Master, when in fact they are NOT that type of man... why is it so ????? 

online gives people the opportunity to play the character they wish to be r/t ...Master/slave/dominant Woman... 

for some easier than others 

believes that submission once found is something you cannot change 

for this girl anyhow

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/Captain of GS 20:12:59 pm CST

I am inclined to agree with Galah about the women ,, I have met Women online,, that surprised me with a submissive side,, when I wouldn’t have suspected it,, at least one explained that she had to be so hard,, so strong in her work world,, that it was nice to let someone else be in charge VT

 

galah{RA} 20:13:10 pm CST

gorean Masters find a boy slave to be a weakness, not understanding why a male would be that way....gor men find them to be a disgust or disgrace...and we had a few thralls come and stay awhile, but most don't, a gorean Master won't let a thrall serve him, thats for sure

 

kitty {LB-CC} chain to undine 20:14:47 pm CST

that does make sense Master

 

Rollo the Ax 20:14:53 pm CST

Well, Pax... Freud or Jung might say that the answer is male insecurity with their own manliness that makes so many basically homophobic....

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/Captain of GS 20:15:00 pm CST

as for male slaves I dont recall letting one serve me ,, but I am not against the idea of a male slave,, if its their choice shrugging to each their own

 

Laroona 20:15:08 pm CST

LOL I am not the submissive type in RT or even VT 

it did not suit me in my personal makeup

 

rhian{GS}t 20:15:22 pm CST

of the few male slaves that rhian has seen come thru, she has not seen one serve. they tend not come in very often or stay long.

 

Laroona 20:16:21 pm CST

so should GS be more receptive of males who are submissive?

 

Laroona 20:16:54 pm CST

adding or should we exclude them and they are lost to GS and go to a BDSM site

 

kitty {LB-CC} chain to undine 20:17:30 pm CST

in some people it is'nt for them Mistress. were with others they try to find it and embrace that part of them

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:18:52 pm CST

greetings A/all

 

Laroona 20:19:42 pm CST

why live a lie online when your feeling are strong?

 

kitty {LB-CC} chain to undine 20:20:08 pm CST

girl thinks that they should be treated the same that female slaves are treated

 

rhian{GS}t 20:20:30 pm CST

what if the online persona is the truth and one's rt persona is the lie, Mistress?

 

Laroona 20:21:50 pm CST

rhian heee turned that one around on me huh 

but as galah said one soon feels the inner person in a gorean male

 

undine [Lord Blue] chain to kitty 20:22:25 pm CST

smiles, throwing Master Rollo a large rope

 

Rollo the Ax 20:22:57 pm CST

lost a post again....this is not fun...

 

rhian{GS}t 20:23:11 pm CST

*grins at undine* might need to ask a Master to chain Him to the room. darn urts

 

Laroona 20:23:41 pm CST

*hands Captain Rollo some spare rence paper*

 

Rollo the Ax 20:24:57 pm CST

Why be a male slave here ??? if that is what they want, perhaps a BDSM site is better suited

 

Laroona 20:25:29 pm CST

kitty but a male slave is not treated the same as a female slave in Gor

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:25:44 pm CST

don't know if this was said but they are in the books yes they where not treated the same as girls

 

rhian{GS}t 20:26:12 pm CST

in the books, even female slaves looked down on male slaves.

 

Rollo the Ax 20:27:02 pm CST

The main problem as I see it is simply people NOT being able to see themselves for what they truly are.... and also thinking that it must be an all or nothing issue....

 

nassy{GS} 20:27:32 pm CST

the male slave would be a worker type out in the fields, carrying the wood and such not serving not and since most male slaves/sub she knows are either cross-dressers or into pain....they don't seem to fit GS

 

galah{RA} 20:27:40 pm CST

but a good question is...IF a male that is submissive by nature comes in as a Master...what does that do to a slave? **deep sigh** a slave can spot a true Master from a pasang away, but the same could be said for a subbie boy that is trying to be a Master, slaves feel it and know it

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:28:46 pm CST

there was thralls that where pleasure silks.... if they are allowed in the home they should be kept in the piazza to please the FW

 

undine [Lord Blue] chain to kitty 20:28:56 pm CST

well galah said it best...they are not welcome when it comes to serving Masters...or gor for that matter...havent seen one she really cared for

 

galah{RA} 20:29:16 pm CST

its right back to that dilemma, if you wear a cap on your name, that makes you a free and the slave serve, but i can tell you that in my opinion, thats hard to do sometimes

 

Rollo the Ax 20:29:18 pm CST

a woman can be strong in RT... and have strong traits, ust to survive in this world... but she should also be able to accept and show that she is and can be submissive when the right man comes along... the RIGHT man, not every thing that calls himself a MAN

 

jessenia{Bh} 20:30:00 pm CST

if a boy happens to tell a girl he prefers to serve.... Masters.... *ahem*... is a girl wrong if she directs him to a more... male/male friendly site so that he doesnt get killed here?

 

Xertog 20:30:17 pm CST

That is not what galah said undine. You are twisting her words.

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:30:44 pm CST

ok lets say a girl comes in here and says that she wants to only serve a Mistress is there an issue there?

 

undine [Lord Blue] chain to kitty 20:32:01 pm CST

perhaps she read them wrong then Master Rollo

 

Rollo the Ax 20:32:17 pm CST

there were NOT very many male * pleasure * slaves in the books.. they were VERY, very, rare.... and even then never in public... in Ar, if it could be proved that FW gave herself to a slave, she would lose her freedom and fortune.

 

Audrey 20:32:36 pm CST

In the past I have extensive knowledge in training boys. They have a place on gor for Norman would not have placed some of them upon their knees in service. I have found dominate and submissive men chose the role of a slave for various reasons. However, eventually the dominate male does have issues in keeping with the role he chose.

 

Laroona 20:33:01 pm CST

any slave wjo enters the paizza had best serve any and all Free with respect 

no matter the gender 

and as for one being a pleasure slave some FW are not into the cyber side of things and frankly any male catching her she would be a slave...

 

rhian{GS}t 20:33:08 pm CST

it would not be permitted, pet. a slave is here to be pleasing. yes, they should be pleasing to FW, but, primarily, a slave is here for the Masters pleasure

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:33:16 pm CST

true Master Rollo i have read where there was a debate about how many slaves there was really on gor.

 

Rollo the Ax 20:34:21 pm CST

Actually, YES, pet.... in all of the books, there was only ONE case where it was suggested but never said openly that homosexual acts took place.. Gor is straight.... either side.. men and women....

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:34:56 pm CST

the best knowledge i have on male slaves has came from book 9 where one teased a girl and was sent to the whipping post then another one where i believe it was book 14.... where the slave served the Mistress in Her private chambers KNOWING if caught She would become a slave

 

Laroona 20:35:08 pm CST

were they not called Muns? 

something like that from memory

 

galah{RA} 20:36:12 pm CST

there also was breeding slaves...a big strong boy put to an exceptional slavegirl, but don't think i have ever seen that online though

 

Laroona 20:36:56 pm CST

and fighting slaves 

for the entertainment of Free

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:36:57 pm CST

i have seen a girl toss into a thrall shed for punishment it was in a norther home

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:37:12 pm CST

online

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:37:26 pm CST

but most homes i have been in kills boy slaves quickly

 

rhian{GS}t 20:38:09 pm CST

the books did have slave girls thrown to male slaves, but it was considered degrading by a kajira

 

undine [Lord Blue] chain to kitty 20:38:09 pm CST

nods with pet....undine has seen that as well

 

Audrey 20:39:02 pm CST

That is to book, pet. Haunty kajira's were teasing a boy in an ally a few Warriors saw such and put the girl at the boy's feet and allowed him to use her for her taunting and teasing.

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:39:14 pm CST

but all homes are different and the Owners decide if They wish boy slaves

 

Laroona 20:39:30 pm CST

GS has one boy 

there is another who enters and is so undecided.... I have spent ahns speaking with him.... making sure he clearly understands the role of a kajirus, and or decide if he wants to be a FM.... 

that is for him to decide

 

Rollo the Ax 20:40:01 pm CST

We can come up with one off examples of many things, and yes, they were in the books... but what we need to remember is that just like in RT, we would be dealing with everyday issues and examples instead of one offs....

 

Audrey 20:40:35 pm CST

a boy can be trained to serve a free man, without either one feeling uneasy. Training must be tactful

 

Laroona 20:41:13 pm CST

**looks to Audrey and nods** 

she and I both agree we cannot be anything other than FW

 

Rollo the Ax 20:41:48 pm CST

yes, girl slaves were given to male slaves as both punishment for her.. and as reward for him..’

 

Laroona 20:43:40 pm CST

I think no matter the gender one must feel comfortable in their own skin

 

nassy{GS} 20:43:59 pm CST

very true Mistress Laroona...

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:44:14 pm CST

true Mistress

 

Rollo the Ax 20:44:41 pm CST

Audrey..... that may be too open a statement.... the slave may serve, but you can't say that either or both would be comfortable with it.. I have NO USE for any male slave... I only tolerate them as long as they stay away from ME...

 

rhian{GS}t 20:46:26 pm CST

and that is where Gor differs from BDSM. most true Gorean males tolerate male slaves, but have a deep dislike of them

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:46:57 pm CST

but then again you think about it rhain FW most of the time hate female slaves

 

Laroona 20:47:41 pm CST

put a gorean man in a BDSM site and he is a subby male.. I wonder how they feel then

 

Audrey 20:47:53 pm CST

Then that is your right as a free man of gor. I have seen many a boy trained to where they can gather equipment, and take instruction from a free man for manual labors. Many believe that boys will behave and move much like a kajira, in fact with proper training the boy would for lack of a better word, not be whimpy or silkie

 

Laroona 20:48:49 pm CST

pet yep hate them with a passion LOL 

seriously I cannot hate them ... but I do hope I play the role of a hard nosed FW

 

rhian{GS}t 20:48:57 pm CST

*nods to pet* in the books, yes. vt, most FW realize that Gor is truly a FM's world and that slaves are a necessary part of that world

 

galah{RA} 20:49:02 pm CST

oooooohh but Mistress Laroona, that would be that old rule about when in rome, do as the romans do....many of our goreans come from bdsm and quickly learn that things are done differently here

 

Rollo the Ax 20:49:15 pm CST

I have been around on_line Gor for many, many years.. and one of the things that NEVER changes is that very often, those that come and take part have no real idea just what their true nature is... men who are NOT Masters calling themselves such... and women who are NOT slaves calling themselves slave.... it is human nature and will never be any different

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:49:53 pm CST

sorry my first home i was in was strictly by the books

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:50:35 pm CST

but again i know all homes are different

 

Audrey 20:50:57 pm CST

Very true, Rollo.

 

galah{RA} 20:51:17 pm CST

that was like the discussion last weeks forum, about slaves treating slaves poorly and if that had anything to gain in online gor, the resounding answer was NO, that nuthing was to be gained by that, same could be said for the FW and slavegirl issue, is there anything to be gained by having a FW hate the girls? i don't think so

 

rhian{GS}t 20:51:48 pm CST

You may not hate kajira, Mistress, but You do enjoy pushing them into the fountain *shivers in memory*

 

pet{Sabre}rs 20:52:16 pm CST

-giggles at rhain-

 

rhian{GS}t 20:52:31 pm CST

except maybe a collar for the FW, galah. *shrugs*

 

Laroona 20:52:36 pm CST

I know I could not treat the slaves harshly unless they really deserved it.. then look out....

 

Audrey 20:53:53 pm CST

free women in the books hated kajira's for the sight of their slaverly was a continued reminder of females' place upon Gor, handed down by the Priest Kings. Free women also hated and were jealous over the fact that kajiras could move freely from the inside out and had the attentions of the men of gor

 

Laroona 20:54:16 pm CST

why those of GS are considered to be more family rather than be at each others throats

 

galah{RA} 20:54:47 pm CST

it all comes back to that issue we have talked about so many times, we try to emulate gor as much as possible, but when you get to the nitty gritty of it all, even the slaves are here by CHOICE, not because they have to be here...and they come here to enjoy, have some fun, i can't see no one being here if everyone hated everyone else and reinacted the hatred like in the books

 

Rollo the Ax 20:54:50 pm CST

LOL..LOL... by the books is such a broad and yet vague statement, pet.... GS is * by the books * .. the question seems simply which book or books ??? to TRULY stay * by the books * would be impossible on-line.... so some things have to be adjusted or overlooked.... simple but true....

 

Laroona 20:55:17 pm CST

ya got it galah *S*

 

rhian{GS}t 20:55:20 pm CST

does that mean if us poor kajira have nightmares we can climb in bed with You, Mistress? *grins*

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/Captain of GS 20:55:49 pm CST

Rt calls slipping out quietly

 

Audrey 20:56:08 pm CST

*laughs.... 

a fur beside the bed will do.. I do not even allow a man within my chambers.

 

Laroona 20:56:16 pm CST

splutters beneath my veils as I hear rhian

 

rhian{GS}t 20:56:49 pm CST

*bats her long lashes* just checking, Mistress

 

rhian{GS}t 20:57:52 pm CST

"by the books" can be hard, especially when John Norman wasn't exactly consistent with his information. it changes depending on what book you read

 

galah{RA} 20:57:59 pm CST

theres to much hatred in rt to come here to vt and deal with the same crap....gor is a harsh world but that is not the same as hatred, not even close

 

Laroona 20:58:08 pm CST

**ponders ... must be rhian’s time for the fountain again..... hmmmmm*

 

Laroona 20:59:39 pm CST

I come to GS to get away from RT and the issues one must deal with 

it could be considered my escapism

 

galah{RA} 21:00:33 pm CST

EXACTLY Mistress Laroona....and so it should be the way for most here

 

Audrey 21:00:56 pm CST

I come to Gor also to escape rt for a bit. The last thing I wish to find is drama online.

 

rhian{GS}t 21:01:31 pm CST

unfortunately, drama sometimes still comes even in vt, but that's the way of life

 

Laroona 21:02:17 pm CST

I also find my role online as challenging 

in RT I seek to be challenged all the time as that is my nature

 

nassy{GS} 21:02:18 pm CST

it is for nassy

 

nassy{GS} 21:02:45 pm CST

an escape from her real time that is..

 

Laroona 21:05:08 pm CST

I think rhian left in case she ended up in fountian again LOL LOl

 

Laroona 21:05:37 pm CST

after caitlin had washed her stinky feet LOL

 

Rollo the Ax 21:05:40 pm CST

okay times up.... I guess that we should call the forum to a close for this week.... Thanks to everyone who took part.......

 

galah{RA} 21:06:38 pm CST

now that forum is over, gal would like to offer a big welcome to gorean shores Mistress Audrey **sincere smile**

 

Laroona 21:06:47 pm CST

thank you Captain Rollo was good to see you able to make the forum *S*

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