Present:
Dak
Keeper
Kazar
Qazir
Lita
karinda
hulya
mute slut
shimmer
flicka
Dak 19:42:27 pm CDT
if any has topic , whisper to Me, and I will open the forum
karinda {GS} 19:43:17 pm CDT
listens intently as forum starts.
hulya{GS} 19:47:17 pm CDT
None that hulya can think of Master
Keeper of flicka 19:48:44 pm CDT
~Valiantly trying to get My brain out of holiday mode.~
Dak 19:49:25 pm CDT
ok, I have a topic, and will open the forum, same rules keep chit chat and greetings to whispers, , first topic ::
Why do we come to Gor, and what keeps us here?
people may become disillusioned but then why do so many claim once Gor is in ones blood they are drawn back again and again.
What magic does it possess? Is it magic or something else entirely?
A place for like minded folk....is that the reason we are drawn back time and again?...We are but lost and still seeking? or is there more? Many can embrace Gorean philosophy into their rt and have done soo but what of other aspects??? Is that what keeps us coming back???
Or is role playing Goren that much work that for many its not worth it????
karinda {GS} 19:52:16 pm CDT
karinda comes to Gor because she thrives to please and serve. she is pulled to commitment and order. karinda shall not leave because it is in girl's slave blood, and she loves it. she loves GS.....
hulya{GS} 19:53:54 pm CDT
For hulya she orginally found herself in a Gor chatroom out of curiousity, then once she saw some of it and got to chat with the kajira she felt like she has finally found a place to belong after so much searching.
Dak 19:55:02 pm CDT
when I came to online Gor I was completely enthralled with the serves of slave s beautiful, so sensual, and sexy, and enticing , and so full of description, I was mesmerized by it , over the years that was always the greatest draw for Me !
Keeper of flicka 19:56:11 pm CDT
Furring, serving and dancing are great, but they can become so repetitive and formulaic that they have the potential to make this place mind-numbingly boring, making a person both disillusioned and somewhat jaded.
In My opinion, what keeps people coming back is getting to know the person behind the keyboard, making and strengthening relationships and things that are out of the usual.
Keeper of flicka 19:57:31 pm CDT
~looking back at the other post.~
Yes, relationships with like-minded people.
hulya{GS} 19:57:37 pm CDT
And if hulya could guess, what keeps her coming back is that... it allows her to escape real life and forget about her problems while also letting her be someone else, changer her own thought style, behavior and attitude.
flicka-slave of Keeper 19:59:36 pm CDT
for flicka it is a multitude of things, a girl actually doesn't know where to start, perhaps, start with the lack of ambiguity, in Gor Men are Masters and women are slaves (with the exception of a few free Women). Ergo there is a transparency in the way flicka is able to interact with Masters and her fellow slaves.
The usual "feminine wiles" do not cut it with Gorean Men and to this end flicka is forced into an honesty of self, which for her is sometimes quite painful.
Keeper of flicka 19:59:52 pm CDT
It is also a great opportunity to exercise O/ones imagination.
I agree hulya; To escape and create a world, not as it is, but how W/we would like it to be.
Dak 20:00:46 pm CDT
to Me, this Gor is not what lured Me in, and I find it boring, and frustrating!
Keeper of flicka 20:01:07 pm CDT
~Nodding to flicka.~
And, a better person for it My flicka.
karinda {GS} 20:02:24 pm CDT
if girl can ask, what makes Master Dak feel that way?
Dak 20:04:37 pm CDT
the serves and positions aren't as creative and exciting as they used to be, I know some have been critical of how I train My slaves to serves and do positions, but that is like what GS was 12 years ago !
Keeper of flicka 20:05:54 pm CDT
Yes flicka; Transparency or to put it another way. It is the lack of ambiguity coupled with the clarity of who W/we are that makes Gor appealing as well as all the things mentioned already.
karinda {GS} 20:06:05 pm CDT
thank You for elaborating for position on that Master Dak.
karinda feels the slaves really try to give their very best.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:06:34 pm CDT
As to what draws flicka back to it inexorably? ~smiling at her Jarl~
Well, flicka thought 11 years ago when she real time accepted her Jarl's collar, that she no longer needed or wanted online Gor. ~low chuckle~
How wrong. Online gives a person an opportunity to get to know and enjoy the company of others, both Free Persons and slaves who have a similar philosophy.
A girl thinks that you make of Gor what you are prepared to invest in it. A girl tries her very best to be 100% true to her Gorean Home.
Dak 20:08:44 pm CDT
do you really believe in the real Gor just trying is acceptable
Keeper of flicka 20:09:35 pm CDT
flicka your line; "A girl thinks that you make Gor what you are prepared to invest in it." Is true in all life and all things.
karinda {GS} 20:10:55 pm CDT
karinda doesn't feel slaves here don't try.
karinda closes girl's mouth
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:12:01 pm CDT
~smiles~ well that is a philosophy You taught a girl Jarl. We should all strive for the impossible achievement of perfection. It is called trying. When we stop trying we are dead.
hulya{GS} 20:12:29 pm CDT
*smiles softly and hugs karinda softly*
Lita, Physician 20:13:03 pm CDT
karinda, Dak's point is, I believe, that "just trying" isn't enough.
karinda {GS} 20:14:53 pm CDT
Mistress....girl got it
Dak 20:14:57 pm CDT
true Lady, in the slave pens of Gor, would the trainers accept just trying ?
Keeper of flicka 20:15:55 pm CDT
If you don't try you have failed. If you at least try you have a chance at success.
Or as someone else once said;
“Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly.”
― Robert F. Kennedy
Lita, Physician 20:16:30 pm CDT
No, Dak, They would not.
Dak 20:17:04 pm CDT
*smiles*, I don't believe in the Gor World they ever heard of JFK, *smiles*
Keeper of flicka 20:18:04 pm CDT
Actually it was Robert Kennedy.
Dak 20:19:12 pm CDT
well, either one, *smiles*
Keeper of flicka 20:19:19 pm CDT
As I said earlier; for Me it is not just serving, furring and dancing. It is something far deeper and more meaningful.
Qazir 20:22:20 pm CDT
for my self my property loves Gor we live a similar aspect to gor real time So for me it is a way to support something she loves as well as networking and the occational creative writing
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:22:23 pm CDT
Would seem to flicka that the point is being missed. Ah well each to their own understanding.
Dak 20:23:41 pm CDT
well, for instance, when you go to the local tavern, do you just go there to experience how meaningful life is or do you go to be in another world and relax ?
Qazir 20:24:46 pm CDT
ideally I would love to interact with folks who actually live it as close as they can in a community setting it would be great
Dak 20:26:19 pm CDT
I had a slave a few years ago, that was in a RL Gorean relationship, it didn't end well !
Keeper of flicka 20:27:03 pm CDT
Serving is just one manifestation of an ideal way of living to some. The ideal really expresses itself in clarity of roles, which in turn leads to clarity of purpose; Id Est, to be submissive or to Be dominate generally base on gender or status.
Qazir 20:27:18 pm CDT
oh why do you say it didnt end well
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:27:56 pm CDT
Master Dak, when flicka invites people into her home for dinner, when on occasion flicka dines in a restaurant with friends or yes even in a pub, we tend to discuss "meaningful things" flicka and Jarl Keeper's friends are seldom interested in what the latest celebrity is doing, how much weight they have lost or other shallow occurrences. We do tend to discuss "Life, The Universe and Everything". BTW the answer is 42.
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:28:11 pm CDT
wonders why it didnt end well
Qazir 20:31:46 pm CDT
yes I have to concur with Keeper I like to see something more meaningful and the enjoyment of connecting with new friends
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:31:55 pm CDT
Master Dak, flicka had a marriage once, that didn't end well either. But her 11 years in a Gorean relationship with Jarl Keeper is still going strong and happily.
Dak 20:31:58 pm CDT
I can't say, becuz that is personal, for her just accept it didn't end well, and I lost one helluva good slave !
Keeper of flicka 20:32:03 pm CDT
~Laughing at flicka.~ Thanks for all the fish.
hulya{GS} 20:32:41 pm CDT
girl is sorry to hear that Master
Dak 20:34:18 pm CDT
she was sorely missed, for sometime, I would welcome her back happily
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:34:54 pm CDT
Jarl Keeper is having technical difficulties he will return as soon as He can.
Dak 20:35:33 pm CDT
ok, *smiles*
Keeper of flicka 20:37:19 pm CDT
Swapping browsers again.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:40:01 pm CDT
~watches the revolving door, loves it when Jarls get in a spin~
Qazir 20:41:26 pm CDT
weeee I am spinning ... so is the concensus that Gor is good realtime fun and we rp here to keep it alive
Keeper of flicka 20:41:36 pm CDT
OOC again - ~Smiling at flicka~
See flicka; Linux always works!
hulya{GS} 20:42:03 pm CDT
*giggles at flicka*
Keeper of flicka 20:42:44 pm CDT
Something like that Qazir, and that Gor is different things to different people, as O/one would expect.
hulya{GS} 20:43:08 pm CDT
Welcome returns Jarl
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:45:03 pm CDT
Jarl Qazir, aye, because in many ways Gor and BDsm is almost the last taboo, it is difficult to have interaction with others in real time. For flicka being here gives her a chance to be with other people who share her and Jarl Keeper's philosophy, it is a time to be relaxed and to, yes serve other Masters. It is a time to role play what she and Jarl Keeper live.
Qazir 20:49:44 pm CDT
do we have another topic or did people have more to say on this 1
Dak 20:50:19 pm CDT
strange you sa that, in poolside, BDSM is acceptable, but Gor is not ! and this Gor room was instrumental in helping get poolside started !
Dak 20:51:01 pm CDT
it would seem it has run out, does anyone have another topic ?
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:51:14 pm CDT
~frowning~ Master Dak, flicka was talking about real life.
shimmer{GS} 20:51:55 pm CDT
but from what girl has seen in poolside there is no real bdsm play scening at all every time girl went in all it was was chit chat
Dak 20:54:07 pm CDT
not as much as there once was, shimmer, but GS used to be a room in poolside , and the Dungeon was began the same year I came to poolside
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:54:27 pm CDT
DAK dm room is now like pool `~ ~~
Qazir 20:54:34 pm CDT
uhm you guys do understand that aspects of bdsm is done in gor right
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:55:28 pm CDT
Dak i started pool in 2000 ~`~` GOR was in poolside dm was the DM
Dak 20:56:53 pm CDT
I see similarities but done in a much different way !
Lita, Physician 20:57:28 pm CDT
Qazir, in BDSM, as I understand it, the tying up and whipping and so on is done for pleasure. In Gor those things are strictly for punishment, never for pleasure.
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:58:26 pm CDT
Lita exactly ~`
Qazir 20:59:04 pm CDT
different how what I find is quite often people dont understand BDSM at all and have this scewed world view
Dak 20:59:33 pm CDT
that is the biggest difference, Lady, also, in BDSM, things are negotiable between Master and slave, not in Gor
Lita, Physician 21:00:13 pm CDT
Yes, that too, Dak
Dak 21:00:31 pm CDT
Dungeon Myst began in 2001
Keeper of flicka 21:00:33 pm CDT
~Evil grin~
Truth be known Lita, giving flicka a slap on the rump and watching her jump can be pleasurable for Me, not real sure how much flicka enjoys it!
~Chuckling~
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:01:43 pm CDT
~chuckling at Mistress Lita's words~
well flicka's understanding is that Gor is a Man's world and whatever gives a Master pleasure is acceptable. A girl does have to say that Jarl Keeper does enjoy the odd ( make that frequent) slap on her rump. This girl derives little pleasure from it, so supposes she is Gorean, but He seems to derive immense pleasure from it.
Qazir 21:02:31 pm CDT
well that is not 100% correct Lita some times bondage is used as punishment and sometimes only 1 person my get pleasure from the act and the other edures and gets pleasure from pleasing the other and making the sacrifice besides the Master /slave relationship is in bdsM sadomasochism does not have to be a part of the relasionship to be BDSM
Keeper of flicka 21:02:41 pm CDT
~Laughing~
I had no idea you were typing that My girl!
Great minds think alike!
~Chuckling~
Dak 21:03:32 pm CDT
is it stimulating pleasure or just humorous pleasure ?
Lita, Physician 21:04:12 pm CDT
I see. But it is my guess that He does not allow you to choose whether He will slap you on the rum or not, now does He? *grins* It is my understanding that subs or slaves in BDSM get to say what their Masters can and cannot do. Not so on Gor
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:04:22 pm CDT
~impish grin~ aye Jarl, You have trained Your girl to be in some ways an extension of Yourself, she has learnt for the sake of her rump, to be able to read Your mind.
Dak 21:05:49 pm CDT
it is 9Pm do we need to continue ?
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:06:26 pm CDT
That is exactly right Mistress, He does not enter into any negotiations at all.
The day that flicka accepted (willingly) His collar was the day that flicka abrogated all self determination. He is Master she is slave. He commands she obeys. No discussion.
Keeper of flicka 21:06:58 pm CDT
In answer to Dak; It can be either, neither or both. The Master's Infallibility Rule comes into play on that one.
In answer to Lita; flicka does not have too many choices in life!
Qazir 21:07:37 pm CDT
it all depends on the relationship and I find Gor in my mind to be very negotiative in nature as how I have seen it RP out
Qazir 21:08:48 pm CDT
Lucky Bastard Keeper!
Keeper of flicka 21:09:22 pm CDT
Oh dear flicka; W/we have done it again!
~Laughing~
AFK
~Running to the other end of the house R/T to see what flicka is writing so I do not copy her.~
hulya{GS} 21:09:48 pm CDT
*giggles at Jarl Keeper*
karinda {GS} 21:10:09 pm CDT
giggles as she imagines Jarl Keeper actually running to flicka on the other side of the house. too cute.
Dak 21:10:29 pm CDT
oh, in what way Qazir, is it negotiative ?
hulya{GS} 21:11:33 pm CDT
*wonders if flicka leads Jarl Keeper in a couple laps around the house naked*
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:12:10 pm CDT
~chuckling~ ah my Jarl are You indicating that You do not have an original thought?
~squeals as a nipple is tweaked r/t~
Jarl Qazir, hmm not sure who is the luckier Jarl Keeper or flicka.
~eyes shining as she looks at her beloved Jarl~
Keeper of flicka 21:12:33 pm CDT
I do have many original thoughts girl!
How's you nipple?
~Laughing~
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:13:10 pm CDT
~laughing~ hulya behave!!! flicka is wearing her camisk.
Keeper of flicka 21:13:46 pm CDT
No hulya, but I have led flicka around the house naked!
That was fun.
hulya{GS} 21:13:54 pm CDT
*giggles* for how long though sis?
Qazir 21:14:46 pm CDT
because I cant just do what ever I want to a girl she does not have to entertain fools if she wishes not she can log off or even fight. you dont need punishments if there is no resistance
Dak 21:15:46 pm CDT
no, not yet, I asked no one seemed interested in closing it, but I think it is time ! I will close it now and thank all for coming and participating !
thanks flicka, for scribing !
Qazir 21:16:14 pm CDT
I know real BDSM relationships that slaves dont have any rights and the negotiations are no exsistant...
hulya{GS} 21:16:36 pm CDT
Thank you for leading Master Dak
flicka girl thanks you for scribing
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:18:03 pm CDT
Thank You Master Dak for leading forum.
Keeper of flicka 21:19:33 pm CDT
Thank You Dak for leading.
Thank You flicka for scribing.
Pardon the pun but; a thankless task at times.