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Xertog 19:19:06 pm CST

I'm not sure if Rollo is coming or not. Before I start the forum I'm going to take care of some personal business.

 

Xertog 19:20:48 pm CST

Speak of Rollo and he appears. LOL.. Tal Rollo, it is good to see you. Do you want to start the forum? My business can keep till after.

 

Xertog 19:23:45 pm CST

I'll take care of it after the forum in the tavern.

 

Rollo the Ax 19:24:16 pm CST

No, brother... go ahead and get your business out of the way so that it is done... then we can begin, okay ??

 

Rollo the Ax 19:25:58 pm CST

It is up to you, Xertog... now or later, the call is yours...  

 

Xertog 19:25:57 pm CST

The forum is your brother.

 

Rollo the Ax 19:27:11 pm CST

Okay then.... Welcome everybody to this weeks edition of the GS forum.... we will follow the same rules as always... everybody gets to have their say...even slaves, as long as it is done in a respectful manner.. once we start, keep the personal chit chat and greetings and such in WHISPERS so as to take some of the burden off of the scribes... anybody with a topic, question, or anything they wish to discuss, PM it to ME, and I will bring them up as time allows.. Okay ??? lets begin......

 

CLIMATE of PORT KAR?

 

Rollo the Ax 19:31:52 pm CST

Okay... our first topic is as follows.. **we all tend to incorporate a bit of r/t into our posts in some way or another... such as commenting on it being cold outside if we are in our wintery days... 

 

what is the climate of Port Kar?

 

Rollo the Ax 19:30:46 pm CST

Before any topic gets started, I want to just say that I hope that everybody had a good Holiday season, and that things both went well and are also well now for all...... NOW, on to business.... okay ??

 

rhian{GS}t 19:33:43 pm CST

it's tropical and humid, if rhian remembers correctly

 

Laroona 19:34:02 pm CST

it always seems the same online 

but we do incorporate it 

but it is hard when US ppl say it is cold and us ozzzies say it is hot

 

Rollo the Ax 19:34:23 pm CST

As I remember the books, Port Kar is on the Vosk delta... where the Vosk river ends and the Thassa sea begins... it is in an area that for the most part would be warm most of the time... perhaps cool days during some seasons, but never cold enough for snow or frost...

 

vina{GS} 19:34:28 pm CST

vina has read that it has been described as damp and chilly in the mornings...

 

nassy{GS} 19:34:31 pm CST

hot and humid Master Rollo

 

zoya{GS}t 19:34:44 pm CST

zoya thinks Port Kar would be on the warmer side most of the year as it's south of the North and she knows it's cold up there. she'd still think there would be cooler times but not too cold.

 

jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 19:35:06 pm CST

according to the home page: 

 

Port Kar is a city of Gor established on Thassa, the main sea of known Gor. It is located in a humid, tropical climate, and situated near the Vosk delta marsh on the Tamber Gulf and Thassa. 

 

but jesse has been guilty of "coming in from the cold" herself

 

rhian{GS}t 19:35:22 pm CST

*grins teasingly* can't help it that You are on the wrong side of the world, Mistress

 

Laroona 19:35:57 pm CST

would that be the reason why the Piazza is open to the air?

 

lillith 19:36:49 pm CST

yes Mistress

 

vina{GS} 19:37:12 pm CST

Morning is chilly 

At the second Ahn, long before dawn, the herald of Samos had come to the lake like courtyard of my holding in many-canalled Port Kar, that place of many ships, scourge of Thassa, that dark jewel in her gleaming green waters. Twice has he struck the bars of the sea gate, each time with the Ka-la-na shaft of his spear, not with the side of its broad tapering bronze point. The signet ring, of Samos of Port Kar, first captain of the council of captains, was displayed. I would be roused. The morning, in early Spring, was chilly. 

"Does Tyros move?" I asked blond-haired Thurnock, that giant of a man, he of peasants, who had come to rouse me. 

"I think not, Captain," said he. 

The girl beside me pulled the furs up about her throat, frightened. 

Savages

 

lillith 19:38:42 pm CST

There were Piazza's mentioned in Raiders?Been a while since i have read it completely.

 

vina{GS} 19:38:49 pm CST

Cold 

My steps took me again to the paga tavern where I had begun this night. 

I was alone, and miserable. I was cold. There was nothing of worth in Port Kar, nor in all the worlds of all the suns. 

Raiders

 

Rollo the Ax 19:39:12 pm CST

The main thing to remember is that * cold or hot * is a relative issue.... what I mean is that in a place that is warm all the time, cold for some would only be cool for others.... just like at the north pole, a hot day would still be freezing to most...... LOL..

 

vina{GS} 19:39:26 pm CST

We came to the roof, and there, near its edge, holding Surbus between us, we waited. The morning was cold, and damp. It was about daybreak. 

And then the dawn came and, over the buildings of Port Kar, beyond them, and beyond the shallow, muddy Tamber, where the Vosk empties, we saw, I for the first time, gleaming Thassa, the Sea. 

Raiders

 

vina{GS} 19:39:56 pm CST

~hushes

 

jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 19:40:22 pm CST

but in a roll play sense of speaking... there'd be no need for girls to run about in cloaks or furs or what ever as if a raging blizzard were going on.... correct?

 

jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 19:40:54 pm CST

or role play.. 

brain is still on holiday

 

aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:41:13 pm CST

cloaks, where would they get cloaks from?

 

Maccabeus~Wandering Jew of Gor 19:41:30 pm CST

Greetings, girl. I just came in to deliver a message to one of the Free here. Thank you for the greeting but you may go about your serving.

 

rhian{GS}t 19:41:34 pm CST

cold is relative to the person....really. if one from the north...such as maine goes to florida in the winter, they may feel it is really warm while native people think it is really cold, not being used to the colder temperatures...

 

lillith 19:41:35 pm CST

It would seem only on early spring mornings. If her Owner allowed of course.

 

Maccabeus~Wandering Jew of Gor 19:41:47 pm CST

((Sorry, meant to be pm to pet))

 

Laroona 19:42:36 pm CST

but then jessenia we would be located in the North 

as GS is on the Vosk Delta we are more temperate .... so it could be in role play, entering the warmth of the Tavern as an example

 

vina{GS} 19:43:04 pm CST

vina believes that it is relatively cool and damp in the mornings...and also there are quotes of how in the North on the Thassa, icy winds blew...

 

Laroona 19:43:17 pm CST

and that Free is scribing.. Maccabeus

 

Rollo the Ax 19:43:39 pm CST

LOL...LOL... well..... role play aside, if you are * role playing * a character that is in say, Iceland, or Norway in the winter, you would or perhaps should still take into account that outside, your character * would still freeze their ass off if naked..... LOL...

 

jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 19:44:09 pm CST

i'm not trying to imply that we are in the north.. i'm just saying to stick to more accurate role play for Port Kar.. such wouldnt fit in... 

or at least not to me  

 

rhian{GS}t 19:44:13 pm CST

one would think a person would feel a slight tempature difference when entering the Tavern from the outside anyway....even on a warm day.

 

aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:44:36 pm CST

but where would a slave get a cloak from? 

~chuckles, unless she made it out of furs 

and her Master allowed her to wear it

 

rhian{GS}t 19:45:11 pm CST

*giggles* maybe she picked up an urt and called it a cloak...could be big enough

 

vina{GS} 19:45:13 pm CST

vina believes the cloak would be given to the slave by her Owner(s)...

 

Laroona 19:45:54 pm CST

*snickers* 

I would look good entering in my shorts and t-shirt LOL

 

vina{GS} 19:45:58 pm CST

so Port Kar is not located in the North? vina is getting confused here...

 

aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 19:46:07 pm CST

shrugs ~aurora is hot enough *L

 

rhian{GS}t 19:46:27 pm CST

might get You some pretty jewelry tho, Mistress *winks teasingly*

 

pet{Sabre}r 19:47:21 pm CST

girl wishes You well Master sorry she is just not feeling well still from surgery hopefully next week she will be able to stay longer.

 

Maccabeus~Wandering Jew of Gor 19:48:25 pm CST

...He rises and as quietly as he entered, leaves, wishing A/all a good week and a good year.

 

Rollo the Ax 19:49:26 pm CST

correct, rhian... case in point.. myself in RT... I was born and raised in Utah... cold many months of the year... at times I even went bare foot ( for short times ) in the snow.. then I moved to tropical Queensland, Australia... for many years when others wore sweaters or coats, I went in tee shirts and could not understand WHY they were cold... but after over 20 years here, now I also feel the * cold * a little.....

 

lillith 19:49:37 pm CST

-with a softly spoken"i wish all well and thank you for allowing me to visit",she rises,waving and slipping quietly away to wander the canal lined streets-

 

Laroona 19:49:40 pm CST

**shakes my head*

 

pet{Sabre}rs 19:50:09 pm CST

girl wishes You well Mistress sorry she is just not feeling well still from surgery hopefully next week she will be able to stay longer.

 

rhian{GS}t 19:50:19 pm CST

*grins* that is how rhian views it...depends on the climate one is used to

 

vina{GS} 19:50:38 pm CST

so there is no right or wrong temperature... ?

 

rhian{GS}t 19:51:27 pm CST

but for girls of the tavern would they not feel the temperature?

 

Rollo the Ax 19:51:55 pm CST

No, vina.... Port Kar is neither North nor really South as Gor goes..... maybe closer to lets say the Gulf of Mexico ... some Texas port cities... Okay ???

 

vina{GS} 19:52:06 pm CST

~wonders if she is going to get an answer...

 

vina{GS} 19:52:36 pm CST

thank You Master Rollo...vina was getting extremely confused

 

jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 19:53:40 pm CST

jesse was picturing something along the lines of the Bahamas or something since it said humid and tropical

 

vina{GS} 19:54:15 pm CST

hmmmm...thinking...

 

Laroona 19:56:07 pm CST

maybe look at the map of gor on the website... and compare with a world map... that may help people understand

 

vina{GS} 19:56:37 pm CST

~grinssss understanding now because she sees it on a map....whew....makes more sense... 

this girl would believe the climate would be tropical... final answer

 

Rollo the Ax 19:57:00 pm CST

yes they would.... but in their own way... lets just agree that each person...Free or slave, will act or post in a manner that is * right * or whatever for them..... if you want to be hot, then sweat... if you want to be cold, then shudder or whatever..... LOL...

 

jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 19:57:18 pm CST

where does it look like it's at vina?

 

vina{GS} 19:58:11 pm CST

Port Kar is located just above the equator....on the map... it looks like... soooo yes jess it would seem the climate is tropical... grins to her beautiful sister who is extremely smart...

 

jessenia{Bh}~His one and only 19:58:54 pm CST

*laughs* 

that's extremely arguable

 

vina{GS} 19:59:20 pm CST

Port Kar is located in the Tamber Gulf

 

vina{GS} 19:59:44 pm CST

~grins

 

Rollo the Ax 20:04:30 pm CST

Okay... if we have cleared up the climate issue, is there any other questions or topics anybody wants discussed ???

 

Laroona 20:05:26 pm CST

LOL I will make sure I wear my "summer robes" heeee

 

Laroona 20:12:05 pm CST

**waits*

 

FREE COMPANIONSHIP IN GS

 

Rollo the Ax 20:12:14 pm CST

Okay... the next topic asked..... ** do the Free of GS renew their Companionships? if not, why? **

 

Laroona 20:13:52 pm CST

LOL that is a well often asked questions 

there is no such thing as FC's in Port Kar 

a Man takes a Woman as his, normally after a period of wooing 

sometimes not

 

vina{GS} 20:14:51 pm CST

is that even in Gor? taking a Woman? would that not mean it is for Companionship?

 

vina{GS} 20:15:24 pm CST

and why is there no such thing in Port Kar? is there a reference to that?

 

Rollo the Ax 20:15:35 pm CST

In Port Kar, there are not formal * Companionships * ... it is the one city on Gor that does NOT follow that way of doing things between free .... it is simply an agreement between both parties to be together.... the woman is * His * woman.. and the man is *her * man..... one more example of Port Kar not doing things the same way as the other cities.....

 

vina{GS} 20:15:46 pm CST

would not "taking a Woman" mean making her His slave?

 

Laroona 20:15:55 pm CST

so renewing is no such thing as renewing in Port Kar 

FC in other areas is renewed every 12 months or may not be....

 

Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 20:16:55 pm CST

Port Kar does not recognize Free Companionship........but what of the Couples who have gone through the ceremony and come to live at Port Kar? *grinning at playing devil's advocate*

 

Rollo the Ax 20:17:16 pm CST

the situation would be much the same as here on Earth with * Common Law * instead of formal weddings......

 

 vina{GS} 20:17:26 pm CST

is there a reference to that?

 

 Laroona 20:18:04 pm CST

vina if the FW wanted to be a slave she would be... 

and Gor needs FW..... so there are a few around

 

 aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:18:38 pm CST

hmmm ~looking at Mistress's post 

if the Master became a pledged Master of GS 

then? ~smiles

 

vina{GS} 20:18:30 pm CST

why doesn't Port Kar recognize Companionships?

 

vina{GS} 20:19:20 pm CST

not necessarily true Mistress.....there are some FW who go to great lengths to NOT be deveiled... (is that a word?)

 

Ulrich 20:19:28 pm CST

Deirdre I suppose that would work like gay marriage in the states. 

a gay couple gets married in California, then moves to the deep south, that union wouldn't be recognized in the same way as it is out there.

 

Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 20:20:15 pm CST

*nodding to Ulrich* Good point......but the tie is still binding emotionally.....*smiling softly*

 

Rollo the Ax 20:20:17 pm CST

LOL...LOL.. the exact semantics of the word * TAKE * have many variables..... in this case it simply means he * takes * her as his choice to live with ..... she is still free but he offers her his protection, house, care, etc.....

 

Laroona 20:20:19 pm CST

vina I believe there is a reference or a few, but I cannot put my finger on them, but it is well referenced

 

vina{GS} 20:20:31 pm CST

is ....there....a....reference....

 

zoya{GS}t 20:21:25 pm CST

~*~looks for the reference~*~

 

Rollo the Ax 20:21:32 pm CST

PK does not recognize FCs simply because it says so in the books...

 

Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 20:22:15 pm CST

I don't really know why, but I have always equated it to the Celtic tradition of "hand-fasting"....

 

vina{GS} 20:22:40 pm CST

alright, so what does it mean when a FW is the woman of a Master...is she or is she not His slave?

 

zoya{GS}t 20:23:28 pm CST

Port Kar does not recognize the Free Companionship, but there are free women in the city, who are known simply as the women of their men. 

Raiders

 

Laroona 20:23:29 pm CST

vina for the last time NO she is not his slave 

she is His Woman

 

aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:23:33 pm CST

she is most definitely not His slave vina 

she is His woman, not referred to as His companion 

but referred to as His woman

 

Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 20:23:55 pm CST

No vina.....She is His Woman.....Bears His children......organizes His household......and according to the books She is held in the highest of accord......something not always practiced on online Gor. *smiling softly*

 

Xertog 20:23:55 pm CST

Here is a quote that salina made on the GS board. I don;t have a page number for it. 

No Formal Free Companionship 

"Port Kar does not recognize the Free Companionship, but there are free women in the city, who are known simply as the women of their men." 

Raiders

 

Laroona 20:24:13 pm CST

thanks zoya *S*

 

zoya{GS}t 20:24:30 pm CST

Surprisingly enough, a woman who is bought from her parents, for tarns or gold, is regarded as a Free Companion, even though she may not have been consulted in the transaction. More commendably, a free woman may herself, of her own free will, agree to be such a companion. 

Outlaw

 

vina{GS} 20:24:45 pm CST

~grins......no need to get touchy Mistress... 

simple question... one that vina does not understand, but a question nonetheless... 

no disrespect intended either.... simple question...that's all

 

Rollo the Ax 20:25:13 pm CST

LOL...LOL... I guess you could use the gay marriage as an example..... but I tend to compare it as I did with Common Law marriages...... if for now other reason than that as far as I know, every state allows common law marriage, so it could be anywhere..... LOLO..LOL.. besides, Gor allows NO * gay * anything...... LOL...LOL...

 

zoya{GS}t 20:25:22 pm CST

A Gorean free woman does not change her name in the ceremony of the Free Companionship. She remains who she was. In such a ceremony two free individuals have elected to become companions. The Earth woman, as a consequence of certain mating ceremonials, may change her last name. The first and other names, however, tend to remain constant. 

Explorers

 

vina{GS} 20:25:28 pm CST

very good ...thank You Slave Master.... 

that is all this girl needed...

 

Ulrich 20:25:38 pm CST

Xertog that is on 

Raiders of Gor, Page 295

 

Ulrich 20:26:54 pm CST

LOL Well Rollo, I was just looking at it from the aspect where something is acknowledge/condoned in one area, but not acknowledged in the same manner in another area.

 

Laroona 20:27:30 pm CST

thanks Xertog *S* 

LOL you and zoya found the same quote

 

vina{GS} 20:28:43 pm CST

~grins adoringly to Mistress Laroona... 

You are simply beautiful Mistress....vina adores You...

 

Rollo the Ax 20:29:22 pm CST

The thing to remember, vina, is that be it * woman * or companion .... the MAN decides what status ANY female has in HIS home... he could enslave a FC should he want to... or free a slave..... BUT as long as HE prefers for the free woman to remain FREE, she may do so... she is NOT his property, but he would defend her to the death ...

 

vina{GS} 20:30:36 pm CST

~lifts beautiful jade eyes to Master Rollo...smiling... 

yes Master, very well put...and as it should be...seriously..

 

Laroona 20:30:52 pm CST

if I made Xertog so angry or acted slave like in the open he could soon alter that status 

Xertog and no ideas LOL

 

Laroona 20:31:43 pm CST

or in the alternate if I so chose I could beg for his collar

 

Rollo the Ax 20:32:10 pm CST

LOL.. no problem, Ulrich...I understood as much..... perhaps it is my own perception or past arguments about the * gay * issue on Gor.....

 

zoya{GS}t 20:32:23 pm CST

for the most part of zoya has just read (too much to repost here) is that Free Companionships on Gor are most like arranged marraiges sometimes, for the purpose of political alliances of families, etc. but too if a Man and a Woman agree, they simple drink a wine and agree to be FC'd for one year.

 

Deirdre ~ Sandman's Woman 20:33:26 pm CST

*nodding to zoyas post* That is how I have always viewed it also, sweet one.....

 

Laroona 20:33:45 pm CST

zoya that is also true of many cities ... alliances formed etc.... 

and some FW have no choice in who her FC is

 

Laroona 20:35:19 pm CST

zoya and some I have seen make it like a RT marriage ceremony LOL

 

vina{GS} 20:37:20 pm CST

thank you all for answering this girl's question... ~smiles

 

zoya{GS}t 20:38:01 pm CST

yes, as zoya has heard of some like that too, Mistress Laroona...truely over-kill in zoya's opinion.

 

Laroona 20:38:53 pm CST

*smiles at zoya*

 

zoya{GS}t 20:40:15 pm CST

There is no marriage, as we know it, on Gor, but there is the institute of the Free Companionship, which is its nearest correspondent. 

Outlaw 

One may have, at a given time, an indefinite number of slaves, but only one Free Companion. 

(this is not a quote by the writer's thoughts on the subject. 

Additionally, this restriction on only one FC is perhaps why the Free Companionship is not recognized in Port Kar. We see mention of "His women" and "My women" throughout scenes in Port Kar which refer to both free women and slaves. )

 

zoya{GS}t 20:41:33 pm CST

~*~chuckles~*~ and boy we know how our Port Karian Masters like those long chains, hehehe.

 

Rollo the Ax 20:41:47 pm CST

LOL...LOL.. seems a bit funny doesn't it ???? a society that is based so firmly on the * might makes right * concept...... that allows slavery and killing as acceptable ..... but then would require members to * marry * somebody just to make business or caste connections ???? the question on Gor is much the same as on earth... which is more important ??? GOLD or STEEL ????

 

Laroona 20:42:52 pm CST

Captain Rollo 

gold is more important to me LOL

 

vina{GS} 20:43:13 pm CST

hmmmmm..... good question... 

this girl would have to say steel....most definitely...

 

vina{GS} 20:43:32 pm CST

~grins

 

nassy{GS} 20:43:49 pm CST

runs her fingers along her collar ...steel for this one..

 

zoya{GS}t 20:44:02 pm CST

or power, Master Rollo? both gold and steel come to the most powerful.

 

vina{GS} 20:44:28 pm CST

what is a Master's sword made from? gold or steel?

 

zoya{GS}t 20:45:26 pm CST

steel, vina ~*~nods~*~

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/Captain of GS 20:46:26 pm CST

my hand on my steel measuring staff .. I trust its use,, more than what Gold may do

 

vina{GS} 20:47:08 pm CST

~smiles.... 

yes, steel.....

 

Rollo the Ax 20:48:54 pm CST

LOL..LOL.. it is a circular question..... there is no right or wrong answer... with steel you may take all the gold you want... but with enough gold, you can buy (rent from others ) all the steel you need... perhaps the proper answer IS power..... be it won with steel, bought with gold, or simply acquired with both thru political, religious, or socal position......

 

Rollo the Ax 20:54:18 pm CST

Steel may well be power..... but the question still remains..... just how that steel is used... and if its power has been used in a proper and honorable manor..... power or might is not always true or honorable... if misused, it shames those that wield either.....

 

Laroona 20:56:23 pm CST

RT can some one scribe

 

nassy{GS} 20:56:13 pm CST

listening

 

 zoya{GS}t 20:55:56 pm CST

~*~nods listening to Master Rollo~*~

 

Rollo the Ax 20:56:57 pm CST

I must go now... RT calls......

 

OriginalSandman_Builder/Captain of GS 20:56:57 pm CST

thank you for leading Rollo,, I wish you and your sweet galah well

 

 aurora{Ulrich}GS~sg 20:56:56 pm CST

thank You Master Rollo 

thank You Mistress 

~warm smiles to You Both

 

 Rollo the Ax 20:56:26 pm CST

well folks...... it seems that our time is done... I will call this forum to a close..... be well, and may Wodin watch over all until we meet again........

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